The influence of German discipline, married to the influence of Armenian passion has given birth to an incredibly powerful sound that interprets all of Sergey Khachatryan's selection with perfection that captures the impulses of the composers themselves.
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hmm, have nothing against him, but his recent Brahms concerto in Baden-Baden was the worst concert experience for me. Maybe it wasn't just his day, but he didn't seem very happy to be on stage, bowing was sloppy, top notes slipped or disappeared 5-6 times, and worst of all, his tempi was dreadfully and inconsistently slow - so much so that I experienced for the first time that a concert could shoot up my blood pressure (with distress).
@twofinedays I hope that your blood pressure has improved. Haven't you seen anything good about this artist previously or since your horrible experience? He is quite brilliant and superbly talented. It is unfortunate that you have only one ear. Follow his career and I feel confident that even you shall see how incredibly gifted this young man is.
@glivee me too! I actually was at a festival with him (he was the guest artist) and I walked in on him in the practice room because I lost my rosin- he was playing the Chaconne.
talented everyone sais? count their practice hours, ask for their theachers names and then look at the family background. Im sure there is nothing unnatural here despite their faces...
Yes I agree Brilliant. He is the master of his instrument. He certainly makes me proud to be Armenian as well. Bravo! His sister Lusine is a good pianist too.
Wow, fantastic performance! Sergey was supposed to give a recital here in NY, but it got canceled because of the volcano. I hope they reschedule it sometime soon, I'd love to hear him in person.
I actually came across this violinist when reading in a forum that he should be in the league with Hilary Hahn (and the writer then went on the criticize her musicality...so, sad). But I must agree with him. As much into the violin world as I am why haven't I heard of him sooner? He's incredible, and plays with such passion and vigor. More Sergei!!! say I.
@mina7versace I Hilary Hahn a little boring. I prefer musicians like Sergey. I do like Oistrakh and Heifetz also. Modern day, I saw a violinist called Vengarov. Not sure what happened to him.
@SugarTomAppleRoger he's on haiatus (sp?) after a shoulder injury. And of course i discover him right after he announces his leave =[. Last I heard he was teaching at a school in Israel.
Une fois pour toutes, il s'agit de la salle Henri Leboeuf du Palais des Beaux-Arts de Bruxelles durant le concours Reine Elisabeth de Belgique, session violon 2005. Je connais bien cette salle, j'y travaille régulièrement (réponse à LaViolina).
its amazing, the musicians are well connected and there is a lot of personality in this movement. however, i don't particularly care for his vibrato. it seems a bit too tight and short for my taste. please agree or disagree with me. i am a pianist, so i don't know too much about this other instrument but i think that technically, everything else he does is very lovely. great great great! and so musical!!!! love the pianist!
I agree, I prefer more varation in tempo of the vibrato. Although I know how hard it is to get the vibrato right. After 4 years trying to get a 'note' out of my violin I gave up studying because of this vibrato.
@postcardusa disagree :d he actually posses a very wide range of vibrato. it just happens to be intense for this mvt of the Brahms which is appropriate. listen to his Bach.
just to make clear to everyone this is not from the Queen Elizabeth competition..or any other competition...this is in NY (carnegie hall) Zankel hall) Apr 30th concert... =]
By the way, can someone clear some fogs about english transcription af their names...? They do not have the same family name as the composer Chatjaturjan (or however it's written in english), right or wrong?
@kantorandersson They do have the same family name. The minor differences in transliteration are due to a couple of factors.
The extra 'u' in Aram Khachaturian's name is because it has been transliterated into English from Russian; and this 'u' is added to the Armenian original 'Khachatrian' to make it phonetically pronounceable in Russian (it is not common in Russian to have two consonants like 't' and 'r' pronounced one after the other).
@kantorandersson As for the difference in the final suffix ian/yan, it is a common suffix for all Armenian surnames. Traditionally, it used to be transliterated into English like ian (Khachaturian). If I know it right, it is the same Indo-European suffix that names nationalities in English (like, Hungarian, Slovenian).
@kantorandersson After the collapse of the Soviet Union, when they started issuing Armenian passports also in English, many problems and mistakes arose in transliterating names. To simplify the process, the Armenian government found an unfair but easy solution: they picked up an equivalent in the English alphabet for each letter in the Armenian alphabet, and those letters were to be used universally for all cases.
@kantorandersson Because they chose 'y' to be the equivalent for the Armenian 'յ' (read like the 'y' in 'yes'), from then on all Armenian surnames have been transliterated into English like 'yan.' Because Sergey is a much younger generation than Aram Khachaturian, his name is spelled like 'Khachatryan.'
All Armenians living in Armenia now have their surnames ending with 'yan,' and the Armenians in the Diaspora transliterate it like 'ian.'
Many thanks! I hope other folks excuse the concluding question (language is my main interest ;-) :
A friend of mine (of Armenian descent...) stressed the penultimate syllable in Chatjaturian, i.e. the 'u'. Now, if this is a Russian influence, I take it that there is no real 'u' i Armenian, so, what sound should be stressed in the family name of these three persons...? The second 'a'? (Is it BTW commonly penultimate stress in -ian family names, such as chess champion PetrOsian?)
@ragtimepianisten When using those proper names in other languages, you adapt them to the principles in those languages (agree that stressing the 'a' in Petrossian in an English sentence would disturb the sentence's intonational structure.) The stressing of the penultimate in the words with -ian is rather a feature of English (HungArian, AraAbian) and your friend must have adequated his pronunciation of Petrossian to that of English.
@ragtimepianisten 2. As for the stress in Armenian, it is called static variable (my own translation) In almost all Armenian words (there are few exceptions), the stress falls on the final syllable of the word (that's why static), but it moves onto the final syllable if you add up a suffix or an ending to the word (that's why variable) So the stress falls on the 'u' in 'Khachatur,' but when you add up the ian/yan suffix, it falls on the final 'a' of the 'ian.' Same for the 'PetrossiAn.'
@ragtimepianisten Now, omission does not mean full abandonment of the sound because as you omit a vowel, you form a so-called 'secret syllable' which is pronounced but not written. The 'secret syllable' is normally pronounced in all cases like an 'ը' (read it like the first 'a' in English 'applaud' or 'along'). So, if you want to sound Armenian when pronouncing the surname 'Khachatrian,' you should read it like 'Khachat-ը-rian' (the 'ը' is a very soft one, and without any stress whatsoever).
@ragtimepianisten When adding the 'ian' to the 'Khachatur,' this 'u' is omitted for some reason.... Omission of vowels is quite common in Armenian (Armenian is a language of inflections), but I cannot refer to a particular rule as to why this 'u' is omitted in this particular case..... (omissions are probably case-specific, though there may be some common principles)....
@ragtimepianisten This is now turning into a real talk on phonetics:-)
1) In Armenian, we have the sound 'u' (read it like the 'ue' in English 'true') and a letter 'u' (graphically it looks like 'ու'). And the surname 'Khachatryan' actually derives from 'KhachatUr (or maybe, Khachatour+ 'yan/ian' (As I wrote in my previous post, 'ian' is the same indo-European suffix in English denoting belonging (Slovenian= belonging to the Sloven people; Khachatrian= belonging to the family of Khachatur)).
While normally both musicians' names would be mentioned, I am pretty sure that only Sergey's name is announced because this performance takes place during the Queen Elizabeth Competition, where he was the one competing.
They are sensational and I adore both of them. As a violinist, Sergey is my hero.
I guess mentioning pianist's name in your description is unnecessary?....
Keep in mind - it is Sonata for piano and violin, not the other way around). Pianist - has 90% of stuff, but you people treat them always as accompanyists!
yeah yeah yeah......u r a pianist arent u?piano doesnt have the 90% of stuff....they r both important....if piano had as u say 90% of stuff......it would not be named sonata.....as for the pianist.....its the sister of sergey.....satisfied?
the name is not mentioned cause this performance is in a competition of violin.....the name of the pianist doesnt matter at all....the playing of the pianist matters.....peace
3rd.Dont be so stupid.If beethoven would like that the sonatas for piano and violin r played just by piano,he would mention it"Sonata for piano with optional violin accompangiment.Did he do that?NO.Sonatas for violin and piano or for piano and violin cant exist if one of the instruments doesnt play.If u r a musician its shame for u to say that.
I never said, that Beethoven intended for his piano/violin sonatas to be played by only piano. What I said - was that piano part there is enough elaborate to exist without violin. Of course with violin is better, but my example only serves as a proof, that piano has rest of "stuff" in that music.
Ok, if you did. Take Eb major for example. Without piano - you are nothing there. But without violin, it sounds pretty much. like solo piano sonata.
Anyway - what is it all about? Are you offended, that I asked why name of the pianist is not indicated? I guess you are... Well, it only proves one more time, that all string players think - that entire music in the whole universe will not exist without them...
prosto fantastika! kakoj temperament i chuvstvo formy u oboix! zhalko tolko, chto taximusica kak vsegda ne pishet imeni pianista... navernoe, dla skripachej eto dejstvitelno nevazhno...
This guy moved me really and reminded me a little bit of Philippe Hirshhorn, who won the Elisabeth Concours in 1967 and who also had THE GIFT. Incredible all this discussions here, I can't understand that. I think Sergey doesn't talk that much about music (like the people here do), that's why he's on stage and most of the people here are propably not;-)
Sergey Khachatryan is extremly tallented violinist and the winner of Queen Elizabeth violin competition, HE IS ONE OF THE BEST 10 VIOLINISTS IN THE WORLD NOW ALIVE!!! So quit this idiotic disscusions and just recognize THIS PHENOMENOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ha ha ha :) U wanna correct me ? You know all about soviet musicians, all violin perfomance history ? Yes his surname is armenian one, all Khachatryans lived and worked in Moscow. As you know Moscow is IN Russia. And when they had chooce to give up their nationality, they got Russian nationality. So what you can say now ? Ask every american asian, black, latinos etc. how they feel. Everyone says "I am an American (USA). Because i was born in USA and have american education.
You are stupid. I am their cousin. They are from Armenia, they are ARMENIAN. They really live in Germany, but they do not want to change their nationality and they are proud of what they are. Not like your"Americans" that feel whatever they want to feel.
I am really sorry that they dont wanna come back to Armenia. And i DO know that they are from Armenia and they are Armenians. You are not right :) I am Russian and i was Born in Moscow. Anyway I saw about 6 months ago Karen Khachaturyan in MOSCOW :) He was really well.
Nare71. I wanted to say following things. Sergey is pupil of J. Rissin. Rissin was pupil of Belenki. and as castodivo43 says Rissin stuied with Belenki at Moscow Conservatory so Sergey got Russian violin school. I am not sure but as i know Rissin stuied at Tchaikovky Central Music school, but i can say exactly he stuied at Moscow Conservatory. Now you understood ?
Leonid Kogan was hebrew and he and all Kogans live in Moscow,If L.Kogan was Hebrew, he had Hebrew violin school? Ha ha ha it is really funny, Oistrakh was born in Odessa,you wanna say he had odessa violin school? by the was Oistrakh was also hebrew and all Oistrakh lived and live IN Moscow. Learn books about russian violin school or instrumental history. You will get more infos about it.
Why are there so little videos of this guy on here? There used to be a video of him playing Shostakovich's violin concerto no.1 but it got removed sadly. It was great! I wish someone would put it up again! Anyway...great, great violinist!
There is not doubt that Oistrakh is a nearly unparalleled master, but I think Khachatryan makes the chords so powerful in this movement... I prefer his interpretation to Oistrakh's as far as that goes. Really a brilliant performance!
This is an excellent performance of a highly talented young man. There is concentration, strong will, imagination... ...you can feel, see, hear the energy of his young age. I believe it will be a pleasure to hear him play this piece in a couple of years. Sergey could be one of the greatest artists in the future...
I love a strong accompianist...but it seems to lack the mutuality of a sonata. The volume of the piano seems to push the violinist to a more concerto mode. He is trying to force a tonality out of the instrument that is not entirely necessary for a sonata...it's not WRONG...just it seems as if he is using a lot of tension and over exerting for a sonata. And yes....Oistrakh still defeats all...muggy double stops are just that...and need to be fixed.
it's better than Sergey's other stuff, but still, the double stops could be much cleaner and should be for this caliber of piece...my teacher would never let me get away with this. Also....why the heck didn't they put the lid down a little more on the piano, it's good to be loud, but it's not a piano and violin sonata, it's a VIOLIN Sonata
Where would your violin be without the piano part. What a stupid thing to say mrtveduse...good thing your modest about the violin part though *cough*.
Actually no, it's written by Brahms: Sonate fur Klavier und Violine. The piano part and violin part are equally important, and the piano has even more musical material.
sergey is a monster talent. today's generation of violinists are so good! sergey, kavakos, j.fischer, s.jackiw, r.capucon, h.hahn, etc. we have so many fantastic fiddlers now.
sergey's sister definitely plays too loud. nonetheless, here are some great touches and great rubatos. i'd like to hear them redo the movement after they deal with the volume issue.
Good, only looks like forcing the sound, not natural his emotion, and is so great music!this sonata very emotional and intense but I don't like this: forcing his emotion, and the piano is to forte, i think,
First and foremost: This piece - as well as ALL Brahms's sonatas! - is for Piano and Violin, not the other way around. You do not "accompany" this piece! She is good. The balance is good. The tempo is great: it's fast, yet no rush: the tempo is "Presto Agitato". And the music just flows through them. They're young but it's real, it's genuine and will get better and better. Bravo! What can be deceiving is the recording quality -- too mach bass and that creates some base overload sometimes.
This is a very great violinist. The space left by David Oistrakh has been stepped into by this young man. This duo of brother and sister is very powerful and I would love to attend a concert by her. I would love to see and hear them both.
Petty people dont understand these things and it was always so.
The more I hear this, the more I like it. As for saying the piano part is badly played... Well, I never! I wish I could play half as well.
Regarding the balance of the two instruments, I think it is good. This is meant to be a "conversation" between the two intruments. The piano is meant to take the lead sometimes, not be in the background. The tempo is OK and not too fast.
Look guys - this is the "presto" movement!
All in all, very enjoyable. It is one of my favorite piece anyway.
I don´t play the violin, only the piano and I´ve accompanied this sonata too. as for me this tempo is the right one for this movement. They are more like a duo than violin with accompaniment. I cannot say if it is bad.
His sister is working against him. She's playing to loudly. She doesn't seem to understand the piece. It looks like his sister is competing against him in stead of cooperate with him.
That's only in some parts. She's good but sometimes she goes to far. If she wouldn't be good, she wouldn't play. But as I said, the piano part could be better.
grnd2. It's OK to have second thoughts. It means we are reviewing what we say, and learning all the time. I wish more people would do that. There is nothing worse that someone that takes a hardline position they no longer believe in themselves. You are clearly the opposite. :)
He is VERY talented. I saw him in Frankfurt about 2 years ago. He was playing at such a pace and with such precision, it sounded like 2 violins (I'm an amateur, so no need to comment my ignorance if this is something normal; I thought it was pretty amazing). But I understand he also worked very hard to get where he is. Comes from a very musical family, etc.
piano is a wee loud, other then that it is very pleasing. does any one have Heifetz playing this? There is a clip of him playing the 4th mov. but it is only 10 seconds in a 9 minute long documentary. i would be very interested to see how he plays a less technical piece, especially at 1:41
I like how badass he looked at the last note lol
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hmm, have nothing against him, but his recent Brahms concerto in Baden-Baden was the worst concert experience for me. Maybe it wasn't just his day, but he didn't seem very happy to be on stage, bowing was sloppy, top notes slipped or disappeared 5-6 times, and worst of all, his tempi was dreadfully and inconsistently slow - so much so that I experienced for the first time that a concert could shoot up my blood pressure (with distress).
twofinedays 9 months ago
@twofinedays I hope that your blood pressure has improved. Haven't you seen anything good about this artist previously or since your horrible experience? He is quite brilliant and superbly talented. It is unfortunate that you have only one ear. Follow his career and I feel confident that even you shall see how incredibly gifted this young man is.
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I still remember his Tschaikowsky Violin concert A few years ago in Ljubljana ... and he was maybe about 18 then.Amazing talent ....
And last year with Gergiev Sibelius ... breathtaking...
bluz1231 9 months ago
I just met him without realising he was this popular. A really nice fellow i must say.
glivee 9 months ago
@glivee me too! I actually was at a festival with him (he was the guest artist) and I walked in on him in the practice room because I lost my rosin- he was playing the Chaconne.
kgillen27 3 months ago
talented everyone sais? count their practice hours, ask for their theachers names and then look at the family background. Im sure there is nothing unnatural here despite their faces...
Sorcerer2k 11 months ago
Bravo, Sergey, bravo Lusine!
flippert0 11 months ago
the girl is also very talented
bernameyer 11 months ago
bravooooooooooooooooooooooo
1995areg 1 year ago
braaaaavooooooo
1995areg 1 year ago
He is fantastic ! because he has his own style.
TheMooncat3 1 year ago
This is pure energy!
5paulap 1 year ago 2
So talented and graceful, brother and sister united by their soul and blood !
YES , i am proud !.............of their Armenian origin.
keghamminas 1 year ago 6
Bravo both of you, thanks for sharing
gevorgr 1 year ago
Magnificent!
satotakuhi 1 year ago 4
Brilliant! Thank you for uploading. I learned to love this sonata after hearing it in my music hum class at university.
ablcl22 1 year ago
Yes I agree Brilliant. He is the master of his instrument. He certainly makes me proud to be Armenian as well. Bravo! His sister Lusine is a good pianist too.
Takoushjanik 1 year ago 2
things like this make me uber proud of being Armenian!
MonMonsieurBleu 1 year ago 2
BRAVOOOOO!!!!
2803TheSara 1 year ago
who is the pianist?
cesmemael 1 year ago
THE BEST OF YOUTUBE
CamilaSilvaguit 1 year ago
SERGEY IS A GENIUS!!!
haykhhh 1 year ago
SERGEY IS A GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!
haykhhh 1 year ago
Lusine is Sergey's old sister (by two years). I saw them at the Zuerich Tonhalle. They are electrifying.
SugarTomAppleRoger 1 year ago
Wow, fantastic performance! Sergey was supposed to give a recital here in NY, but it got canceled because of the volcano. I hope they reschedule it sometime soon, I'd love to hear him in person.
davidbviolin 1 year ago
that's how it's done, kids ;-)
curtainbreeze 1 year ago
la pianista esta hermosa ! !
maurixiom 1 year ago
another khachatryan :)
CristophVae 1 year ago
I actually came across this violinist when reading in a forum that he should be in the league with Hilary Hahn (and the writer then went on the criticize her musicality...so, sad). But I must agree with him. As much into the violin world as I am why haven't I heard of him sooner? He's incredible, and plays with such passion and vigor. More Sergei!!! say I.
mina7versace 1 year ago
@mina7versace I Hilary Hahn a little boring. I prefer musicians like Sergey. I do like Oistrakh and Heifetz also. Modern day, I saw a violinist called Vengarov. Not sure what happened to him.
SugarTomAppleRoger 1 year ago
@SugarTomAppleRoger he's on haiatus (sp?) after a shoulder injury. And of course i discover him right after he announces his leave =[. Last I heard he was teaching at a school in Israel.
mina7versace 1 year ago
@spinandmarty
hope to see you there!
lardolicious 2 years ago
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It is too slow...
gaugin1903 2 years ago
@gaugin1903...what a ridiculous statement.
battleblades 2 years ago
bravissimo denso e appassionato. fantastica anche la sorella
entellafa 2 years ago
going to see him at lincoln center nyc in april
spinandmarty 2 years ago
kak zhe ti poxozha na mamu...
nairigrigorian 2 years ago
eccezionale interpetrazione del maestro
ecaccuri1 2 years ago
such a wonderful family.. *_*
astonished005 2 years ago 4
Lusine Khachatrayn, Sergey's sister =))
knaro4ka 2 years ago 22
@knaro4ka no wonder! I was thinking how similar they look ^0^
shintee 5 days ago 2
2 wonderful musicans,but what is the name
by pianowomen?
puccini4711 2 years ago
ara lav el nvaguma:)
levikjan 2 years ago 3
So beautiful,Passionate,Wonderful,Inspiring,from the best of the best.
KEANMACHINE10 2 years ago
Une fois pour toutes, il s'agit de la salle Henri Leboeuf du Palais des Beaux-Arts de Bruxelles durant le concours Reine Elisabeth de Belgique, session violon 2005. Je connais bien cette salle, j'y travaille régulièrement (réponse à LaViolina).
crashphil68 2 years ago
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crashphil68 2 years ago
yup, i see it now...sorry i was mistaken! =]
LaViolina 2 years ago
its amazing, the musicians are well connected and there is a lot of personality in this movement. however, i don't particularly care for his vibrato. it seems a bit too tight and short for my taste. please agree or disagree with me. i am a pianist, so i don't know too much about this other instrument but i think that technically, everything else he does is very lovely. great great great! and so musical!!!! love the pianist!
xx england xx
postcardusa 2 years ago 3
I agree, I prefer more varation in tempo of the vibrato. Although I know how hard it is to get the vibrato right. After 4 years trying to get a 'note' out of my violin I gave up studying because of this vibrato.
dragpalace 2 years ago
@postcardusa disagree :d he actually posses a very wide range of vibrato. it just happens to be intense for this mvt of the Brahms which is appropriate. listen to his Bach.
gnatural 1 year ago
they don't have the same name as the composer Aram Khachaturian...
their last name is written a bit different.. is Khachatryan... (without the U and with a Y)
=]
LaViolina 2 years ago 2
that's because Kachaturian lived in Russia all his life and Kachatryan sound Kachaturyan when you pronounce it in Russian
Artinmusic 2 years ago 2
just to make clear to everyone this is not from the Queen Elizabeth competition..or any other competition...this is in NY (carnegie hall) Zankel hall) Apr 30th concert... =]
LaViolina 2 years ago
are you sure? i'm almost sure this this is the competition...it's the same stage and the same surroundings...lol
giorgiocosmin 2 years ago 4
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dworonoff 2 years ago
Actually, this is at the Queen Elisabeth Competition, not NY. I know this for a fact.
liva15 2 years ago 4
By the way, can someone clear some fogs about english transcription af their names...? They do not have the same family name as the composer Chatjaturjan (or however it's written in english), right or wrong?
kantorandersson 2 years ago
@kantorandersson They do have the same family name. The minor differences in transliteration are due to a couple of factors.
The extra 'u' in Aram Khachaturian's name is because it has been transliterated into English from Russian; and this 'u' is added to the Armenian original 'Khachatrian' to make it phonetically pronounceable in Russian (it is not common in Russian to have two consonants like 't' and 'r' pronounced one after the other).
inchvorban 1 year ago
@kantorandersson As for the difference in the final suffix ian/yan, it is a common suffix for all Armenian surnames. Traditionally, it used to be transliterated into English like ian (Khachaturian). If I know it right, it is the same Indo-European suffix that names nationalities in English (like, Hungarian, Slovenian).
inchvorban 1 year ago
@kantorandersson After the collapse of the Soviet Union, when they started issuing Armenian passports also in English, many problems and mistakes arose in transliterating names. To simplify the process, the Armenian government found an unfair but easy solution: they picked up an equivalent in the English alphabet for each letter in the Armenian alphabet, and those letters were to be used universally for all cases.
inchvorban 1 year ago
@kantorandersson Because they chose 'y' to be the equivalent for the Armenian 'յ' (read like the 'y' in 'yes'), from then on all Armenian surnames have been transliterated into English like 'yan.' Because Sergey is a much younger generation than Aram Khachaturian, his name is spelled like 'Khachatryan.'
All Armenians living in Armenia now have their surnames ending with 'yan,' and the Armenians in the Diaspora transliterate it like 'ian.'
inchvorban 1 year ago
@inchvorban
Many thanks! I hope other folks excuse the concluding question (language is my main interest ;-) :
A friend of mine (of Armenian descent...) stressed the penultimate syllable in Chatjaturian, i.e. the 'u'. Now, if this is a Russian influence, I take it that there is no real 'u' i Armenian, so, what sound should be stressed in the family name of these three persons...? The second 'a'? (Is it BTW commonly penultimate stress in -ian family names, such as chess champion PetrOsian?)
ragtimepianisten 1 year ago
@ragtimepianisten When using those proper names in other languages, you adapt them to the principles in those languages (agree that stressing the 'a' in Petrossian in an English sentence would disturb the sentence's intonational structure.) The stressing of the penultimate in the words with -ian is rather a feature of English (HungArian, AraAbian) and your friend must have adequated his pronunciation of Petrossian to that of English.
inchvorban 1 year ago
@ragtimepianisten 2. As for the stress in Armenian, it is called static variable (my own translation) In almost all Armenian words (there are few exceptions), the stress falls on the final syllable of the word (that's why static), but it moves onto the final syllable if you add up a suffix or an ending to the word (that's why variable) So the stress falls on the 'u' in 'Khachatur,' but when you add up the ian/yan suffix, it falls on the final 'a' of the 'ian.' Same for the 'PetrossiAn.'
inchvorban 1 year ago
@ragtimepianisten Now, omission does not mean full abandonment of the sound because as you omit a vowel, you form a so-called 'secret syllable' which is pronounced but not written. The 'secret syllable' is normally pronounced in all cases like an 'ը' (read it like the first 'a' in English 'applaud' or 'along'). So, if you want to sound Armenian when pronouncing the surname 'Khachatrian,' you should read it like 'Khachat-ը-rian' (the 'ը' is a very soft one, and without any stress whatsoever).
inchvorban 1 year ago
@ragtimepianisten When adding the 'ian' to the 'Khachatur,' this 'u' is omitted for some reason.... Omission of vowels is quite common in Armenian (Armenian is a language of inflections), but I cannot refer to a particular rule as to why this 'u' is omitted in this particular case..... (omissions are probably case-specific, though there may be some common principles)....
inchvorban 1 year ago
@ragtimepianisten This is now turning into a real talk on phonetics:-)
1) In Armenian, we have the sound 'u' (read it like the 'ue' in English 'true') and a letter 'u' (graphically it looks like 'ու'). And the surname 'Khachatryan' actually derives from 'KhachatUr (or maybe, Khachatour+ 'yan/ian' (As I wrote in my previous post, 'ian' is the same indo-European suffix in English denoting belonging (Slovenian= belonging to the Sloven people; Khachatrian= belonging to the family of Khachatur)).
inchvorban 1 year ago
Something like Wolfgang & Nannerl or Felix and Fanny?
But why isn't his sister mentioned in the facts square :-o
Regarding it is a is a "duo in conception", why must the pianist remain anonymous?
kantorandersson 2 years ago 4
The superb pianist is Sergey's sister.What a talented family!
Gregory10000000000 2 years ago 2
Brilliant!
Gregory10000000000 2 years ago 25
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Anchux8 3 years ago
Um yeah, but this is youtube...her name could have easily been typed in the description...competition or not.
Rachmaninovobsession 3 years ago
While normally both musicians' names would be mentioned, I am pretty sure that only Sergey's name is announced because this performance takes place during the Queen Elizabeth Competition, where he was the one competing.
They are sensational and I adore both of them. As a violinist, Sergey is my hero.
victoriaycheng 3 years ago
I guess mentioning pianist's name in your description is unnecessary?....
Keep in mind - it is Sonata for piano and violin, not the other way around). Pianist - has 90% of stuff, but you people treat them always as accompanyists!
Not fair!
HOCOB 3 years ago
yeah yeah yeah......u r a pianist arent u?piano doesnt have the 90% of stuff....they r both important....if piano had as u say 90% of stuff......it would not be named sonata.....as for the pianist.....its the sister of sergey.....satisfied?
the name is not mentioned cause this performance is in a competition of violin.....the name of the pianist doesnt matter at all....the playing of the pianist matters.....peace
jonianviolinist 3 years ago
yeah yeah yeah......u r a violinist arent u?
Name matters, in case you want to hear to someone again.
I don't care, if it his sister or someone else - name has to be indicated. This is chamber music and both musicians are important.
"if piano had as u say 90% of stuff......it would not be named sonata" - Really?
It seems, that you should listen to many many sonatas for piano and violin. Especially Beethoven's (where it can be played even without violin)
HOCOB 2 years ago
yes I am a violinist.
1st.Just from the fact that this is a sonata,piano cannot have 90% of stuff.
2nd.I dont need to listen to beethoven sonatas cause I played most of them.
jonianviolinist 2 years ago
3rd.Dont be so stupid.If beethoven would like that the sonatas for piano and violin r played just by piano,he would mention it"Sonata for piano with optional violin accompangiment.Did he do that?NO.Sonatas for violin and piano or for piano and violin cant exist if one of the instruments doesnt play.If u r a musician its shame for u to say that.
jonianviolinist 2 years ago
It is shame for you to say, that name of the pianist doesn't have to be mentioned, since it is violin competition...
HOCOB 2 years ago 2
I guess you have to be a little less stupid...
I never said, that Beethoven intended for his piano/violin sonatas to be played by only piano. What I said - was that piano part there is enough elaborate to exist without violin. Of course with violin is better, but my example only serves as a proof, that piano has rest of "stuff" in that music.
HOCOB 2 years ago
Ok, if you did. Take Eb major for example. Without piano - you are nothing there. But without violin, it sounds pretty much. like solo piano sonata.
Anyway - what is it all about? Are you offended, that I asked why name of the pianist is not indicated? I guess you are... Well, it only proves one more time, that all string players think - that entire music in the whole universe will not exist without them...
HOCOB 2 years ago
Bravo!
cantata202 3 years ago 2
oh my gosh, they both have....armenian noses
Cavaradossi1981 3 years ago
Big Noses and Big brains...... Better than small noses and small brains :P
BagratidJ 3 years ago 2
rank #1
MRV1939 3 years ago
i like the first part cuz its loud and fast
shiro9000123 3 years ago
there are no words to describe how beautiful this piece is....... wordless.
Thankyou, Ella
Sadurim 3 years ago
the piece is really beautiful but he makes it even better
musicequaloxygen 3 years ago
you're right =) spectacular..
Sadurim 3 years ago
THAT. WAS. ASTOUNDING.
Hope12Grace90 3 years ago
bravo kahchaturian
jadorelarmenieAM 3 years ago
prosto fantastika! kakoj temperament i chuvstvo formy u oboix! zhalko tolko, chto taximusica kak vsegda ne pishet imeni pianista... navernoe, dla skripachej eto dejstvitelno nevazhno...
olgamonakh 3 years ago
Eto ivo sistra Lusine Khachatryan
AnahitFoundation 3 years ago
:))) vsega obizhajut pianistov :)))
2750545 3 years ago
so incredible!
EHTrocks 3 years ago 2
Wonderful performance!
You really see that the pianist is his sister, they have the same facial expressions!
wubbie12 3 years ago 3
This guy moved me really and reminded me a little bit of Philippe Hirshhorn, who won the Elisabeth Concours in 1967 and who also had THE GIFT. Incredible all this discussions here, I can't understand that. I think Sergey doesn't talk that much about music (like the people here do), that's why he's on stage and most of the people here are propably not;-)
ArnettaC 3 years ago
Sergey Khachatryan is extremly tallented violinist and the winner of Queen Elizabeth violin competition, HE IS ONE OF THE BEST 10 VIOLINISTS IN THE WORLD NOW ALIVE!!! So quit this idiotic disscusions and just recognize THIS PHENOMENOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
haykhhh 3 years ago
am i the only one
who has come here for the music ?
i hear TWO very inspired
and competent musicians !
the Muses still dwell on Mt. Parnass
NOT Mount Olympus
as you seem to suggest !
the only idioticies
one will ever correct
are ones OWN's ;)
DpiDiver 3 years ago 2
I live in Germany but I'm not german, ok , you are not my friend because i dont need you too .
First understand what you say and then speak.
just go now ...
aryanpianist 3 years ago
I had even written for your mail because you had written to me , EricPeridotic .
aryanpianist 3 years ago
Hello , you are absolute angry and why ?
I don't said : I hate Sergey Khachatryan but he doesn't interrest me .
I'm a pianist not violonist and i'm good and this is for myself enough until now .
You should be speak lernen in conversation with who that for 1st speak as me .
I wish for you all the best my friend .
Aryan
aryanpianist 3 years ago
a) i am not *absolute* angry
b) you are not my friend
c) as an overt racist you
should look for friends
among your kind
d) YT is teeming with proud
german (and otherwise) nazis
(that is the good news ;) )
-eric-
QiChamber 3 years ago
Hm... Tempo is ok.
For me he plays a bit sweety, that's not for Brahms. Anyway Russian violin school is the best on the world :)
Pianist need to clean pedals ! :)
2750545 3 years ago
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I should correct you,it's Armenian school,not russian.This is not Soviet Union any more.
titer2000 3 years ago
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Ha ha ha :) U wanna correct me ? You know all about soviet musicians, all violin perfomance history ? Yes his surname is armenian one, all Khachatryans lived and worked in Moscow. As you know Moscow is IN Russia. And when they had chooce to give up their nationality, they got Russian nationality. So what you can say now ? Ask every american asian, black, latinos etc. how they feel. Everyone says "I am an American (USA). Because i was born in USA and have american education.
2750545 3 years ago
He doesn t live in russia
milstein91 3 years ago 4
I think 2750545 wanted to say Sergey is descendant of Aram Khachaturyan. So Sergey gets influence.
castodivo43 3 years ago
You are stupid. I am their cousin. They are from Armenia, they are ARMENIAN. They really live in Germany, but they do not want to change their nationality and they are proud of what they are. Not like your"Americans" that feel whatever they want to feel.
narek71 3 years ago
I am really sorry that they dont wanna come back to Armenia. And i DO know that they are from Armenia and they are Armenians. You are not right :) I am Russian and i was Born in Moscow. Anyway I saw about 6 months ago Karen Khachaturyan in MOSCOW :) He was really well.
2750545 3 years ago
Nare71. I wanted to say following things. Sergey is pupil of J. Rissin. Rissin was pupil of Belenki. and as castodivo43 says Rissin stuied with Belenki at Moscow Conservatory so Sergey got Russian violin school. I am not sure but as i know Rissin stuied at Tchaikovky Central Music school, but i can say exactly he stuied at Moscow Conservatory. Now you understood ?
2750545 3 years ago
Leonid Kogan was hebrew and he and all Kogans live in Moscow,If L.Kogan was Hebrew, he had Hebrew violin school? Ha ha ha it is really funny, Oistrakh was born in Odessa,you wanna say he had odessa violin school? by the was Oistrakh was also hebrew and all Oistrakh lived and live IN Moscow. Learn books about russian violin school or instrumental history. You will get more infos about it.
2750545 3 years ago
too fast , I like not this guy .
aryanpianist 3 years ago
i gue-ss you like yourself instead ;)
study your pedigree carefully
lest you find reason
to hate yourself
(to the same degree as you seem to hate the English language!!! )
EricPeridotic 3 years ago
I love this guy
MountArarat7 3 years ago
Why are there so little videos of this guy on here? There used to be a video of him playing Shostakovich's violin concerto no.1 but it got removed sadly. It was great! I wish someone would put it up again! Anyway...great, great violinist!
nvidiafan0909 3 years ago
There is not doubt that Oistrakh is a nearly unparalleled master, but I think Khachatryan makes the chords so powerful in this movement... I prefer his interpretation to Oistrakh's as far as that goes. Really a brilliant performance!
AmateurViolinist 3 years ago
Armenians are talented everywhere.
laztechs 3 years ago
This is an excellent performance of a highly talented young man. There is concentration, strong will, imagination... ...you can feel, see, hear the energy of his young age. I believe it will be a pleasure to hear him play this piece in a couple of years. Sergey could be one of the greatest artists in the future...
momentimusicali 3 years ago
he looks serious
shiro9000123 3 years ago
pianist does too :))))))))
castodivo43 3 years ago
i saw him play, it was at the queen elisabeth competition a few years ago, he simply outshined all the other candidates. this guy: next one
efcashypclcopm 3 years ago
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i just think he cums a lot so he was armenian with nice curly pubic hairs....what do u think guys?
mushkee 3 years ago
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i think he got a big dick really!!! and after his performance i want his cum in my mouth
mushkee 3 years ago
shut the fuck up asshole
efcashypclcopm 3 years ago
is this the last movement?
rosamund123 3 years ago
На пианистку не похоже.. Более заяц на барабане. Надо было еще "громче".
pushkoff 3 years ago
perfect
emo124way 3 years ago
I love a strong accompianist...but it seems to lack the mutuality of a sonata. The volume of the piano seems to push the violinist to a more concerto mode. He is trying to force a tonality out of the instrument that is not entirely necessary for a sonata...it's not WRONG...just it seems as if he is using a lot of tension and over exerting for a sonata. And yes....Oistrakh still defeats all...muggy double stops are just that...and need to be fixed.
mrtveduse 3 years ago
Sergey you're the best! And I think it's great to have a sister who can play the piano like that!Sergey and Lucine rules! Great performance!
Djolieen 3 years ago 3
it's better than Sergey's other stuff, but still, the double stops could be much cleaner and should be for this caliber of piece...my teacher would never let me get away with this. Also....why the heck didn't they put the lid down a little more on the piano, it's good to be loud, but it's not a piano and violin sonata, it's a VIOLIN Sonata
mrtveduse 3 years ago
Where would your violin be without the piano part. What a stupid thing to say mrtveduse...good thing your modest about the violin part though *cough*.
Ckorn123 3 years ago
Actually no, it's written by Brahms: Sonate fur Klavier und Violine. The piano part and violin part are equally important, and the piano has even more musical material.
kuribas 3 years ago 2
It is a CHAMBER sonata.
It is NOT a violin concerto or any other solo piece for the piano to just accompany.
ashotk 3 years ago
i agree with you. It is for violin AND piano.
castodivo43 3 years ago
il vient de faire Anvers et Amsterdam, en juillet il ne faut pas le manquer. 23 ans, impressionnant
arobase79 3 years ago
sergey is a monster talent. today's generation of violinists are so good! sergey, kavakos, j.fischer, s.jackiw, r.capucon, h.hahn, etc. we have so many fantastic fiddlers now.
sergey's sister definitely plays too loud. nonetheless, here are some great touches and great rubatos. i'd like to hear them redo the movement after they deal with the volume issue.
dxxn 3 years ago 3
The pianist is wonderful as well.Brahms had all this passion and probably even more.
Bravo for letting us feel Uoung through Your Talent
dereczynski 3 years ago 3
should have held the last note on a little longer but *aaaarg* that is sooo good :D:D
Beffnay 3 years ago
Good, only looks like forcing the sound, not natural his emotion, and is so great music!this sonata very emotional and intense but I don't like this: forcing his emotion, and the piano is to forte, i think,
milosviolin 3 years ago 2
Very very excellent. It's comparable to David Oistrakh's playing, I like his rendition a little better though
AbsoluteZ3R0 3 years ago
I reread my comment and realized it looked a little ambiguous. By "his" I mean I like Oistrakh's better
AbsoluteZ3R0 3 years ago
First and foremost: This piece - as well as ALL Brahms's sonatas! - is for Piano and Violin, not the other way around. You do not "accompany" this piece! She is good. The balance is good. The tempo is great: it's fast, yet no rush: the tempo is "Presto Agitato". And the music just flows through them. They're young but it's real, it's genuine and will get better and better. Bravo! What can be deceiving is the recording quality -- too mach bass and that creates some base overload sometimes.
ashotk 4 years ago 6
you spare me the
effort to comment
kudos
(also to you!)
EricStoic 3 years ago
[ITA] Quanti anni devi studiare violino, e quante ore al giorno ci devi dedicare, per suonare questo pezzo?
[ENG] How many years have you play, and how much hours have you play every day, the violin to do this piece well?
Mallvelous 4 years ago 2
too much
PaulBlooom 4 years ago
bravo khatcharyan you really are a great violonist
melomansarasatiste 4 years ago 7
This is a very great violinist. The space left by David Oistrakh has been stepped into by this young man. This duo of brother and sister is very powerful and I would love to attend a concert by her. I would love to see and hear them both.
Petty people dont understand these things and it was always so.
Barry Thomas
Giffordmas 4 years ago 3
The more I hear this, the more I like it. As for saying the piano part is badly played... Well, I never! I wish I could play half as well.
Regarding the balance of the two instruments, I think it is good. This is meant to be a "conversation" between the two intruments. The piano is meant to take the lead sometimes, not be in the background. The tempo is OK and not too fast.
Look guys - this is the "presto" movement!
All in all, very enjoyable. It is one of my favorite piece anyway.
swanningaround 4 years ago 3
omg someone who FINALLY talks sense!!!
Beffnay 4 years ago
I don´t play the violin, only the piano and I´ve accompanied this sonata too. as for me this tempo is the right one for this movement. They are more like a duo than violin with accompaniment. I cannot say if it is bad.
Centrotoma 4 years ago
His sister is working against him. She's playing to loudly. She doesn't seem to understand the piece. It looks like his sister is competing against him in stead of cooperate with him.
grnd2 4 years ago 5
That's only in some parts. She's good but sometimes she goes to far. If she wouldn't be good, she wouldn't play. But as I said, the piano part could be better.
grnd2 4 years ago
now YOU are arguing with YOU-rself
((the LIVING can find peace only in/after... s t r u g l e))
ManyMees 4 years ago
I felt like I said too much...I mean she really isn't that bad, but sometimes she plays to loudly
grnd2 4 years ago
ONE usually says tooo much ;)
((( i wooould think, this is a piece to Let Loose! )))
ManyMees 4 years ago
grnd2. It's OK to have second thoughts. It means we are reviewing what we say, and learning all the time. I wish more people would do that. There is nothing worse that someone that takes a hardline position they no longer believe in themselves. You are clearly the opposite. :)
swanningaround 4 years ago
"i don't understand anything.... "
I was speaking about piano part, not violin... Katchatryan is a really good violin player, but his sister isn't that good....
Slava69 4 years ago
the page-turner-ess is even worse ;)
ManyMees 4 years ago
He is VERY talented. I saw him in Frankfurt about 2 years ago. He was playing at such a pace and with such precision, it sounded like 2 violins (I'm an amateur, so no need to comment my ignorance if this is something normal; I thought it was pretty amazing). But I understand he also worked very hard to get where he is. Comes from a very musical family, etc.
thelagirl14 4 years ago
piano a bit loud
but great piece. im surprised there arent more recordings of it
theACE53 4 years ago
piano is a wee loud, other then that it is very pleasing. does any one have Heifetz playing this? There is a clip of him playing the 4th mov. but it is only 10 seconds in a 9 minute long documentary. i would be very interested to see how he plays a less technical piece, especially at 1:41
84winston19 4 years ago
BRAVO......
erkrasharjadimackoru 4 years ago
Maybe too fast, i don't understand anything....
Slava69 4 years ago
too fast.
concertolover81291 4 years ago
nice playing. good technique and interpretation.
That face he puts on doesnt help though. lol.
DualThunder 4 years ago 3
Exactly
what i needed
R i g h t NOW!
thank you ever so much
I think I felt YOUR shivers!
ColdRoomTeaTableLamp 4 years ago