Just remember Lepanto, where Turkis sources mentions only 2500 turkish casalty, and siege of Vienna in 1683 where otthoman chronicles mention only 3000 Ottoman causalities :))))))
@stears555 i swear that you are shameless lier. no Turks did not claim that Turkish casualties are 2500 in lepanto. and do you know what? The Turkish warriors of that time were perhaps the best. why? for example the spahis spend 20 years to military training, akinjis were always on horseback, janissaries were professional full-time soldiers. so shut the fuck up you fucking idiot.
@stears555 you are shameleess lier and troll. even in manzikert, Turks were 20.000 against 70.000 byzantines you fucking lier! and that numbers are not ottoman chronicles. you faked up from your ass. because you are shameless fucking anti-Turkic shit! you know what? Turkish warriors of that time were best warriors. thats why they ruled, conquered, and defeated many weaker nations like you. lol, 3-4 million Turks ruled 22 million idiot weak loser people.
@stears555 "Turks lost all of their battles when they were under 2X-3X numerical superiority." and this is really fucking lie. you are such an anti Turkic. looking wikipedia, who wrote by european themselves... lol, do you know that most of the balkans conquered by sarı saltyk and his 20.000 warriors. only 20.000 for God sake you piece of shit! Turks were highly trained and professional soldiers. not like your fucking rabbles.
Why you quarell brothers? It was too time befor. Yes, hungarians lost, turkish win (in this battle!!!). It was a very bloody period in the history, respect for every turkish and every hungarian soldier. Stop this idiot fight! You are not janissary or spahi, and I am not knight!!!
look at the european history books, they said always "Turks were numerous"... this is the biggest lie in history :) Turks were just 2-3 million in 16. century.and most of the balkans conquered by small groups of nomadic Turkmen warriors.very low populated Turks become ruler ethnic group and ruled many nations in balkans, middle east, caucasus,north of blacvk sea, north africa, etc.. the largest army in that Ottomans created was 100.000 in second siege of viennna. and 40.000 of them were Tatars.
i know this is hard accept, but this was very easy victory for the ottoman empire.but dont worry you fought honourable,but you lost. as always i said "Turks won the batttles in real life, but europeans beat them with videos via internet :)"if you are relaxing with these videos, ok, lets make new videos and kill the Turks with you heavy armourewd hero cavalries.but just know this,history was completely different from these videos :)even a spahi warrior trained himself for figting for 20 years
@Shepikee yes absulutely true, today history writing by europeans. look at the wikipedia ... lol, greeks trolling the wikipedia and even they say "50 greek defeated 1 million turks at a one battle"... yea absulutely ...do u know what? we (Turks) dont celebrate this mohacs victory, because this is just 1 of the hundreds of victories in our history. last night before the mohac battle, the spahis listened the "oghuz khağan legend" from a poet. they prepared thier weapons and they won nthe battle.
Now, I dont understand this argument too. Ottomans were one of the biggest and strongest empire at that time, no one said the opposite. :D And they had one of the biggest and strongest army as well. We fought well, but u did it better. :) But we were the shield of Christianity. You could not occupy the whole country, and stopped ottomans invasion so we werent a loser nation that time. :) We r distant relatives, and i like the friendly turkish ppl so i think we should stop senseless arguments. :)
By the way I don't understand the turkish arguments. Everyone knows that the Ottoman empire ruled a lot of non-turkis people, but it doesn't means that it was a weak empire. It's army was one of the most advanced and one of the most glorious at that time (while Hungary was only a mediocre power), so it isn't surprising that the turkis army was way larger than the hungarian.
We did our best and we fell. Thats all, I hope the next video will be about the siege of Nándorfehérvár :D
@PigsyHU talking about numbers, finding excuses for their defeat etc..those are called "loser nation sydrome".. you lost the battle, end of the story. and talking about numbers is so bullshit. because Turks were one of the lowest populaiton in the europe in that time. even balkans conquered by small group of nomadic Turkomans, not by regular army in the earlier time :) huge population of balkans, couldnt stop the Turks until 18. century.. :) cheers
In fact, this battle was a marginal battle between Hungary and the Ottomans, and only the consequences made it serious: the death of the king and the betrayal (?) of Szapolyai, and of course the fall of the country.
@Kokomatane who said that our history books insult the hungarians?? our teachers and books talking peacefully about hungarians, they teach us that you are our distant relatives. and no, Turkish casualties are only 1200, not more. i ve read this battle very different sources.and also i ve said maximum casualties, according to Ottoman archival data, it was 1000 :)) it was not a shameful defeat, you defend your country, but it was not a hard battle for Ottomans.
@Koppanyhun1 according to hungarian history teachers > Turks were 999999X larger than hungarians :))
Turks ruled an empire and tens of nations for hundreds of years...and Turks comprised only %4-5 of the Ottoman population..they were no ethnic Turks out of the balkans and anatolia... so stop telling these numbers bla bla bla... only 1-2 million Oghuz Turks migrated to anatolia and they ruled arabs, persians, kurds, armenians, assyrians, greeks, bulgarians, serbs, albanians, etc.... so on..
@Oyrad58 You were at least twice as much as we were. Your Empire ruled 20 million people and those armies as well. These are facts, my turkish friend. And yes, you won that battle, but this video only shows that it was not such a shameful defeat for us like it was written in the turkish propaganda books that time. Your casualties were probably bigger than 1200, but nobody said ours were smaller. Callistrid and his men recreated this battle, and used every historical detail. Insallah! :)
@Kokomatane so you mean if we were same numbered, hungarians would defeat us?* LOL , the history is not look like that video my brother. do you know the spahis trained 10 years just for horse archery? and janissaries spend all their life to military training. also Akınchıs were best raiders and light horsemen of that time. those were real professional warriors, not like in the games. you have to research janissary and spahi military training,
@stears555 please dont swear. ! believe or not, but this was the very easy battle for the Ottomans. the caulties were only 1200. Hungarians lost most of their men
@stears555 its not only ottoman archival data, but historians say ottoman casualties were max. 1200. i dont know that what your hungarian teachers teach you, but im sure that they are romantic/emotional. this battle was not a great victory for us (Turks). this isjust 1 of the many victories in europe.
@Oyrad58 Hahaha, Academic historians are serious people. Just Read the opinion of academic military historians of Turkey about the battle. Turks were always defeated by Hungarians when the numbers and size of the army were similar.
@stears555 and u know what? there were only few million Turks at that time. but we conquered north africa, anatolia, caucasus, crimea, balkans, hungary, etc. and ruled arabs, kurds, greeks, bulgarians, berbers, serbs, croats, romanians, hungarians, and other many nation.. it is a fucking western lie that Turks were numerous...no! Turks were small nomadic groups when the Ottoman Empire created. ! even balkans conquered by small nomadic groups of Turks! fucking idiot
@stears555 and if the hungarians were so powerful and defeat us, then why did we ruled u 150 years? even you couldnt take back your country without austrian&poland help. now bow down you shameless fucking loser. my ancestors feed their horses on hungarian plains for 150 years. if you were so powerful, why didnt you invade anatolia and defeat the Turks you fucking idiot? but we defeat you in your own fucking country!
@stears555 your acts are typical loser acts. you cannot accept that you are defeated by stronger people, and we ruled your country for 160 years. it is the truth. Turks were powerful, even they were only few million ( max 4 million) ethnic Turk in ottoman empre. but they were the army, ruler class and owner of anatolia and balkans. they ruled tens of nations. since the ancient Göktürks, we are always been rulers, conquerors and smashers!
@Oyrad58 You are a typical liar. Midget people live in turkey and the middle east, therefore they had to use superior army numbers against taller stronger Europeans. You try to falsificate the history. Ottomans weren't able to conquer Hungary. See historic maps, or read Encyclopedia Britannica (edited by British scientific academy members) or German Brockhaus encyclopedia (edited by German academics).Idiot
@Oyrad58 It is ottoman chronicle tales. 1500 death were recorded by the Turks in Lepanto. And 2100 death were recorded in Vienna in 1683. Very beliveable chronicle numbers :)))) Night tales for turkish childeren :)
@stears555 in crusades, Kılıch Arslan fucked the huge holy roman empire crusader army with only 20.000 horse archer. when they reached the jeruslaem . they lost the 93.000 while passing anatolia :) LOL . "1500 death were recorded by the Turks in Lepanto" you faked up this shit. im a Turkish, and i didnt head such a fake lie. you shameless lier. but europeans have fairy tales for children :) "Turks were always superior in number bla bla..." typical loser nation's excuse :)
@stears555 just fuck this lier "Turks were numerous bla bla bla" . you cant even accept that Turkish warriors of that time were powerful, well trained, and hardy. even our worst quality soldiers, the Akınchıs were x10 times better than your fucking rabble. they were excellent horse archers and raiders. Turkish population were 3-4 million in 16.century. while europeans were hundreds of milions :D and they couldnt stop us until 18.century. fucking rabbles.
@stears555 shut up troll or i ll cut your tongue. hundreds of millions people couldnt stop 4 million Turks. and we ruled 22 million slave including hungarians. LOL . now obey to your master
@stears555 listen me piece of shit. i ve checked your channel. and all of your comments are about Turks and you trying to insult Turkish nation and history. but you cant. we came from God damn altai steppes and we conquered, ruled, defeated many nations, including hungarians. this "numbers excuse" is typical loser excuse. we fought against you in hungary, why didnt you fought against us in anatolia? why didnt you came to anatolia? LOL medieval europe:= army of the peasant rabbles.
@stears555 i can answer this. because we were fighting against all god damn europe. and its not true.. we conquered most of the hungary and ruled 160 years.... Turks were fighting against venice, habsburg germany-austria, poland-lithuania, cossacks, balkan slavic rebels, expanding russia, and savafid persians at the same time !!! 16.-17. centry was golden age for us, but we fought against numberless enemy... and why couldnt you hungarians invade anatolia?? :)
@Oyrad58 Again, see maps of Europe in 16 17th century , it shows that you were unable to conquer the Hungarian kingdom. Just see Oxford and Cambridge maps....
wtf ?? there were only 1200 Turkish casualties in the battle of mohacs! but look at the video, almost hungarians win! bullshit ! we massacred almost all the hungarian army and drove them to the river ! video is not neutral/objective.. but absulutely a hungarian show.. it is true that Turkish left flank retreated first, but not destroyed ! again; there were only 1200 Turkish casualties and also battle was only 3 hours. it was so easy victory for the Ottoman Empire
yes, ottoman empire's population was almost 20 million at that time.. but only 2-3 million of them are ethic Turks and they were ruler ethnic group and 1 million of them Turkic crimean Tatars. rest are arabs, kurds, armenians, bulgarians, serbians, greeks, north afrcans, etc ....
kurd kürt kubrát sabir huns but they believe it their aryan origin.. they dont know Boarich princess, toamars and others from our very ancient past Subartu
@stears555 because hungarians are all superman. even 1 hungarian can kill 99999999999 turks.
NogayMirza 5 days ago
gj. great work
drhades42 1 week ago
Perfect quality! Thanks to the creators.
CanOmer61 1 week ago
Just remember Lepanto, where Turkis sources mentions only 2500 turkish casalty, and siege of Vienna in 1683 where otthoman chronicles mention only 3000 Ottoman causalities :))))))
stears555 2 weeks ago
@stears555 i swear that you are shameless lier. no Turks did not claim that Turkish casualties are 2500 in lepanto. and do you know what? The Turkish warriors of that time were perhaps the best. why? for example the spahis spend 20 years to military training, akinjis were always on horseback, janissaries were professional full-time soldiers. so shut the fuck up you fucking idiot.
Oyrad58 2 weeks ago
@Oyrad58 Again, Turks lost all of their battles when they were under 2X-3X numerical superiority.
stears555 2 weeks ago
@stears555 you are shameleess lier and troll. even in manzikert, Turks were 20.000 against 70.000 byzantines you fucking lier! and that numbers are not ottoman chronicles. you faked up from your ass. because you are shameless fucking anti-Turkic shit! you know what? Turkish warriors of that time were best warriors. thats why they ruled, conquered, and defeated many weaker nations like you. lol, 3-4 million Turks ruled 22 million idiot weak loser people.
Oyrad58 2 weeks ago
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@stears555 "Turks lost all of their battles when they were under 2X-3X numerical superiority." and this is really fucking lie. you are such an anti Turkic. looking wikipedia, who wrote by european themselves... lol, do you know that most of the balkans conquered by sarı saltyk and his 20.000 warriors. only 20.000 for God sake you piece of shit! Turks were highly trained and professional soldiers. not like your fucking rabbles.
Oyrad58 2 weeks ago
At least half or third of the 100,000 turkish warriors died on this battle.
stears555 2 weeks ago
islam, jews, christians aredevils long life zoroastrianism, gnosticism, buddhism! die all to 3 davilsuckers!
SabirOnogur 1 month ago
Atilla ibn Macar !
SabirOnogur 1 month ago
fuggers habsburgs ottomans vs hungarian idiots it was this war...
SabirOnogur 1 month ago
Why you quarell brothers? It was too time befor. Yes, hungarians lost, turkish win (in this battle!!!). It was a very bloody period in the history, respect for every turkish and every hungarian soldier. Stop this idiot fight! You are not janissary or spahi, and I am not knight!!!
heikina01 1 month ago
look at the european history books, they said always "Turks were numerous"... this is the biggest lie in history :) Turks were just 2-3 million in 16. century.and most of the balkans conquered by small groups of nomadic Turkmen warriors.very low populated Turks become ruler ethnic group and ruled many nations in balkans, middle east, caucasus,north of blacvk sea, north africa, etc.. the largest army in that Ottomans created was 100.000 in second siege of viennna. and 40.000 of them were Tatars.
giraytr 2 months ago
i know this is hard accept, but this was very easy victory for the ottoman empire.but dont worry you fought honourable,but you lost. as always i said "Turks won the batttles in real life, but europeans beat them with videos via internet :)"if you are relaxing with these videos, ok, lets make new videos and kill the Turks with you heavy armourewd hero cavalries.but just know this,history was completely different from these videos :)even a spahi warrior trained himself for figting for 20 years
giraytr 2 months ago
@Shepikee yes absulutely true, today history writing by europeans. look at the wikipedia ... lol, greeks trolling the wikipedia and even they say "50 greek defeated 1 million turks at a one battle"... yea absulutely ...do u know what? we (Turks) dont celebrate this mohacs victory, because this is just 1 of the hundreds of victories in our history. last night before the mohac battle, the spahis listened the "oghuz khağan legend" from a poet. they prepared thier weapons and they won nthe battle.
giraytr 2 months ago
Now, I dont understand this argument too. Ottomans were one of the biggest and strongest empire at that time, no one said the opposite. :D And they had one of the biggest and strongest army as well. We fought well, but u did it better. :) But we were the shield of Christianity. You could not occupy the whole country, and stopped ottomans invasion so we werent a loser nation that time. :) We r distant relatives, and i like the friendly turkish ppl so i think we should stop senseless arguments. :)
Kokomatane 2 months ago
By the way I don't understand the turkish arguments. Everyone knows that the Ottoman empire ruled a lot of non-turkis people, but it doesn't means that it was a weak empire. It's army was one of the most advanced and one of the most glorious at that time (while Hungary was only a mediocre power), so it isn't surprising that the turkis army was way larger than the hungarian.
We did our best and we fell. Thats all, I hope the next video will be about the siege of Nándorfehérvár :D
PigsyHU 2 months ago 2
@PigsyHU talking about numbers, finding excuses for their defeat etc..those are called "loser nation sydrome".. you lost the battle, end of the story. and talking about numbers is so bullshit. because Turks were one of the lowest populaiton in the europe in that time. even balkans conquered by small group of nomadic Turkomans, not by regular army in the earlier time :) huge population of balkans, couldnt stop the Turks until 18. century.. :) cheers
NogayMirza 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
In fact, this battle was a marginal battle between Hungary and the Ottomans, and only the consequences made it serious: the death of the king and the betrayal (?) of Szapolyai, and of course the fall of the country.
PigsyHU 2 months ago
@Kokomatane who said that our history books insult the hungarians?? our teachers and books talking peacefully about hungarians, they teach us that you are our distant relatives. and no, Turkish casualties are only 1200, not more. i ve read this battle very different sources.and also i ve said maximum casualties, according to Ottoman archival data, it was 1000 :)) it was not a shameful defeat, you defend your country, but it was not a hard battle for Ottomans.
Oyrad58 2 months ago
At least 5,000 died in Turkish, Hungarian and 10-15000. You've been at least 3X of us than we are.
Koppanyhun1 2 months ago
@Koppanyhun1 L2spell
Braverocker 2 months ago
@Koppanyhun1 according to hungarian history teachers > Turks were 999999X larger than hungarians :))
Turks ruled an empire and tens of nations for hundreds of years...and Turks comprised only %4-5 of the Ottoman population..they were no ethnic Turks out of the balkans and anatolia... so stop telling these numbers bla bla bla... only 1-2 million Oghuz Turks migrated to anatolia and they ruled arabs, persians, kurds, armenians, assyrians, greeks, bulgarians, serbs, albanians, etc.... so on..
Oyrad58 2 months ago
@Oyrad58 You were at least twice as much as we were. Your Empire ruled 20 million people and those armies as well. These are facts, my turkish friend. And yes, you won that battle, but this video only shows that it was not such a shameful defeat for us like it was written in the turkish propaganda books that time. Your casualties were probably bigger than 1200, but nobody said ours were smaller. Callistrid and his men recreated this battle, and used every historical detail. Insallah! :)
Kokomatane 2 months ago
@Kokomatane so you mean if we were same numbered, hungarians would defeat us?* LOL , the history is not look like that video my brother. do you know the spahis trained 10 years just for horse archery? and janissaries spend all their life to military training. also Akınchıs were best raiders and light horsemen of that time. those were real professional warriors, not like in the games. you have to research janissary and spahi military training,
Oyrad58 2 months ago
can u give it in english next?
Ether702 2 months ago
Turkish casualties > 1200 warrior died
hungarian casualties > 24.000 soldiers and king died.
but according to this video; its look like opposite :))
giraytr 2 months ago 8
@giraytr
yeah and everybody knows the "victory side writes the history"
false, false and false your statistic :)
Shepikee 2 months ago 2
@giraytr What a stupid uninformed opinion you have.
Respect those who died in this battle on both sides...
FFHEINZ 4 weeks ago
@giraytr It is not reliable source, Forexample Ottoman chronicles depicted even their greatest defeats with minimal losses
stears555 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@stears555 please dont swear. ! believe or not, but this was the very easy battle for the Ottomans. the caulties were only 1200. Hungarians lost most of their men
Oyrad58 3 weeks ago
@stears555 its not only ottoman archival data, but historians say ottoman casualties were max. 1200. i dont know that what your hungarian teachers teach you, but im sure that they are romantic/emotional. this battle was not a great victory for us (Turks). this isjust 1 of the many victories in europe.
Oyrad58 3 weeks ago
@Oyrad58 Hahaha, Academic historians are serious people. Just Read the opinion of academic military historians of Turkey about the battle. Turks were always defeated by Hungarians when the numbers and size of the army were similar.
stears555 2 weeks ago
@stears555 and u know what? there were only few million Turks at that time. but we conquered north africa, anatolia, caucasus, crimea, balkans, hungary, etc. and ruled arabs, kurds, greeks, bulgarians, berbers, serbs, croats, romanians, hungarians, and other many nation.. it is a fucking western lie that Turks were numerous...no! Turks were small nomadic groups when the Ottoman Empire created. ! even balkans conquered by small nomadic groups of Turks! fucking idiot
Oyrad58 2 weeks ago
@stears555 and if the hungarians were so powerful and defeat us, then why did we ruled u 150 years? even you couldnt take back your country without austrian&poland help. now bow down you shameless fucking loser. my ancestors feed their horses on hungarian plains for 150 years. if you were so powerful, why didnt you invade anatolia and defeat the Turks you fucking idiot? but we defeat you in your own fucking country!
Oyrad58 2 weeks ago
@stears555 your acts are typical loser acts. you cannot accept that you are defeated by stronger people, and we ruled your country for 160 years. it is the truth. Turks were powerful, even they were only few million ( max 4 million) ethnic Turk in ottoman empre. but they were the army, ruler class and owner of anatolia and balkans. they ruled tens of nations. since the ancient Göktürks, we are always been rulers, conquerors and smashers!
Oyrad58 2 weeks ago
@Oyrad58 You are a typical liar. Midget people live in turkey and the middle east, therefore they had to use superior army numbers against taller stronger Europeans. You try to falsificate the history. Ottomans weren't able to conquer Hungary. See historic maps, or read Encyclopedia Britannica (edited by British scientific academy members) or German Brockhaus encyclopedia (edited by German academics).Idiot
stears555 2 weeks ago
@Oyrad58 It is ottoman chronicle tales. 1500 death were recorded by the Turks in Lepanto. And 2100 death were recorded in Vienna in 1683. Very beliveable chronicle numbers :)))) Night tales for turkish childeren :)
stears555 2 weeks ago
@stears555 in crusades, Kılıch Arslan fucked the huge holy roman empire crusader army with only 20.000 horse archer. when they reached the jeruslaem . they lost the 93.000 while passing anatolia :) LOL . "1500 death were recorded by the Turks in Lepanto" you faked up this shit. im a Turkish, and i didnt head such a fake lie. you shameless lier. but europeans have fairy tales for children :) "Turks were always superior in number bla bla..." typical loser nation's excuse :)
Oyrad58 2 weeks ago
@stears555 just fuck this lier "Turks were numerous bla bla bla" . you cant even accept that Turkish warriors of that time were powerful, well trained, and hardy. even our worst quality soldiers, the Akınchıs were x10 times better than your fucking rabble. they were excellent horse archers and raiders. Turkish population were 3-4 million in 16.century. while europeans were hundreds of milions :D and they couldnt stop us until 18.century. fucking rabbles.
Oyrad58 2 weeks ago
@Oyrad58 Again, Turks used numerical superiority for win. They lost all battles with similar numbers in Hungary.
stears555 2 weeks ago
@stears555 shut up troll or i ll cut your tongue. hundreds of millions people couldnt stop 4 million Turks. and we ruled 22 million slave including hungarians. LOL . now obey to your master
Oyrad58 2 weeks ago
@stears555 listen me piece of shit. i ve checked your channel. and all of your comments are about Turks and you trying to insult Turkish nation and history. but you cant. we came from God damn altai steppes and we conquered, ruled, defeated many nations, including hungarians. this "numbers excuse" is typical loser excuse. we fought against you in hungary, why didnt you fought against us in anatolia? why didnt you came to anatolia? LOL medieval europe:= army of the peasant rabbles.
NogayMirza 2 weeks ago
@NogayMirza again, why couldn't you conquer kingdom of Hungary in the 16-17th centuries? why were you stopped in Hungarian solil? Can you answer?
stears555 2 weeks ago
@stears555 i can answer this. because we were fighting against all god damn europe. and its not true.. we conquered most of the hungary and ruled 160 years.... Turks were fighting against venice, habsburg germany-austria, poland-lithuania, cossacks, balkan slavic rebels, expanding russia, and savafid persians at the same time !!! 16.-17. centry was golden age for us, but we fought against numberless enemy... and why couldnt you hungarians invade anatolia?? :)
Oyrad58 2 weeks ago
@Oyrad58 Again, see maps of Europe in 16 17th century , it shows that you were unable to conquer the Hungarian kingdom. Just see Oxford and Cambridge maps....
stears555 1 week ago
wtf ?? there were only 1200 Turkish casualties in the battle of mohacs! but look at the video, almost hungarians win! bullshit ! we massacred almost all the hungarian army and drove them to the river ! video is not neutral/objective.. but absulutely a hungarian show.. it is true that Turkish left flank retreated first, but not destroyed ! again; there were only 1200 Turkish casualties and also battle was only 3 hours. it was so easy victory for the Ottoman Empire
NogayMirza 2 months ago in playlist Liked videos
btw, thanks for Turkish subtitles
Oyrad58 2 months ago
@Oyrad58 and fuck you. donk talk with these hungarians!
NogayMirza 2 months ago in playlist Liked videos
yes, ottoman empire's population was almost 20 million at that time.. but only 2-3 million of them are ethic Turks and they were ruler ethnic group and 1 million of them Turkic crimean Tatars. rest are arabs, kurds, armenians, bulgarians, serbians, greeks, north afrcans, etc ....
Oyrad58 2 months ago 7
@Oyrad58
kurd kürt kubrát sabir huns but they believe it their aryan origin.. they dont know Boarich princess, toamars and others from our very ancient past Subartu
SabirOnogur 1 month ago