Well ppl both yuna and asada have their own strength yuna's is her speed, her goe earning huge jumps and edge with musical movements. While asadas is her flexibility, her lines, and her light smooth movements. Stop arguing!!!
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Yu-na > Mao
Yu-na is consistent and never placed off a podium. She always got 1st-3rd ever since she competed in the high-level competition. Mao Asada is never consistent. Wtf is up with her? she can't even rank within top 3 this year.
Not only that, she's such a selfish person. she never donated a single yen to any type of charity or donations. Yu-na = UNICEF ambassador.
Fuck Mao. selfish bitch even when she has more money than yu-na.
@EdDy4RheelZ Coz she is a slut not ecouse she deserve and that is the reason i don´t respet her so sorry she is not better than mao just Korean ppl buy the competitions
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@lilymaoas Wow, how did you find this out? Because i'm pretty sure it's false. If you are good at figure skating then you can obviously tell the difference. Yuna is more artistic and technical. That should be obvious.
@Tequlilaconlimon Coue not everybody understand art hanny jut ppl with art instructions... ppl like you likes eassy music and sluty ppl like yuna bitch....i mean yuna kim =)
@lilymaoas Uh. And even though two people have similar programs. The way they execute the programs will OBVIOUSLY be DIFFERENT because they are DIFFERENT people. /smh .. Having similar moves doesn't make it the same score. Why do all the American commentators like her then? Because she has skill. They won't like her if she's a bad figure skater. Why do you automatically call her a bitch? pfft. lame
Oh, and NHK is a Japanese broadcasting company. So please do not come up with any accusation of being biased because there is no reason for them to be biased towards Koreans as they have analyzed all the events of how Yu-na overcame her challenge and her rival Mao Asada.
But I gotta say, it sure gets ugly when nationalism and extreme fanatism are injected into an ugly head.
Hope she get a gold next olympic she deserve also the gold..i've watch her and yuna kim since their Jr time..i love the way they compete head to head..if she can only get a new coach much better for her......Good luck
I agree, I've looked at past protocols of Yuna's performances and if she had skated clean in all of them as she did at the Olympics, her score would consistently be around 140. Mao's score was reasonable, although she should have gotten higher GOE's for her triple axels.
None of commentators ever said that Mao deserved the gold or didn't deserve the silver. Be serious people. I don't believe that any of you after Mao's FS thought: "she surely will beat Yuna" or after Joannie FS: "she surely will beat Mao". Gold and silver medals were obvious.
But I agree some scores were very strange. I don't get how Yuna could get 5,40 points for spirals in SP- just like Mao did. And higher scores for spins.
@resfriada1 There's this Japanese documentary from NHK called Mao Asada and Yu-na Kim which was made after Olympics. They explain everything there. I watched it with Korean subtitles. But I wish there was English subtitles for it. It's very interesting. You should check it out.
Anyone who thinks Mao deserved gold medal seriously need to get their eyes checked. While I got nothing against Mao Asada, she was nowhere near receiving gold medal for the Olympics, not to mention all the mess ups she made in the long program. If you honestly cannot see this, then you are clearly blinded by your Mao fanatism. Artistry requires all elements on figure skating, not solely on triple axel.
@EdDy4RheelZ You weren't listening to what I said. Everyone knows Yuna was the deserving champion. However, as someone who skated and followed skating, I can tell you Yuna's marks were far too high. She should not have scored 150, 140 is more reasonable.
@vihzelx for sure she would have gotten a ton of 6.0s, however the new system has a finite value for each element that is assigned, and a score of 150 is so far beyond anything even remotely reasonable for a women's program. Look at the 2007 worlds and all the amazing performances there and they were barely cracking 130. The whole Olympics the scores were somewhat inflated, but Yuna's was definitely the most bloated of all. A clean win with a score of 140. Mao/Joannie 125-130 max
@StewNWT At the Olympics, judges take into consideration that the Olympics is the most important competition of the athletes' lives. They reward high GOE's "Grade of Execution" (Extra points for doing something well) because of the immense amount of pressure. My example would be Joanie Rochette. She got the highest GOE's for her short program because her mother passed away 5 days before.
@leadpencil96 I'm sorry but that's ridiculous - skaters are awarded for what is completed on the ice. Full stop. In past Olympics athletes have actually be marked quite severely because the judges are poring over every little detail in a program. Joannie's SP was flawless, and she got excellent GOEs. It's silly to suggest she was marked up in the short because of her mother.
Now in the long program, Mirai Nagasu probably should have gotten a higher mark that Joannie, or perhaps even Mao.
@StewNWT Did you see the audience votes on Vancouver olympics site? People are rating Mirai Nagasu on top of Mao for long program. Now, what makes me laugh is how people would even compare Mao and Yu-na of whether Mao should've received gold or is better when people are even debating whether Mao should've even received silver since she screwed up so many times in the long program.
Why are people sweating their panties over triple axels? figure skating is judged based on many elements. This ain't figureskatastics. Only advantage Mao had over Yu-na was triple axel. Mao's spiral sequence, flying spin, jump combinations, spin combination, layback spin, ina bauer, were all inferior to Yu-na's. You guys are whining how Yuna's scores were inflated. All of those points added up, which far exceeded Mao's scores. what's the point of having triple axel when u fuck up other elements?
i can´t belive it¡¡¡¡¡¡ she deserves gold what tha hell is wrong with isu are stupids or what??? this was mao year and she did a amazing job nobody can't do this on years
@lilymaoas You can't be serious,right? Gold? People are debating whether Mao should've even received Silver or not. People are debating that Mao should've gotten bronze or none at all. And you're spewing that Mao deserved gold? LMAO. not to mention the ugly mess ups she made in long program that downgraded her so much. beffore calling isu, you should get some check-up on yourself. =)
@EdDy4RheelZ i think she deserves gold and i think she deserves haiger score she is so amazing to watch she is a gif for Figure skating if you tink youna deserves gold or joannie silver is because you have no idea of what art or artistic means do you know somethink about art ? why not see some of the ballet and then talk i cant do this if you are in 0 as art relates
@lilymaoas Sure I do. I'm not a figure skater but I am a bboy(breakdancer). I know what it takes to be a dancer. Acrobatic moves doesn't define you as a dancer. As I said, only advantage Mao had over Yu-na was triple axel, nothing else. She had no artistry in her work. All of her other elements were inferior to Yuna's. And trust me, bitch, I know what I'm talking about. Even Japanese documentary of NHK's Mao Asada vs Yuna-Kim reveals this. Yuna = artistic. Mao = gymnast.
@EdDy4RheelZ you callme bitch? I can see that exudes class and therefore know what it means be elegant sorry but i have bad news bboy (lol) breakedance is not an art I am very surprised that being a dancer you do´t know the difference between the elgenacia and flexibility so it is useless to talk to you about something that you could´t understand with my 15 years of experience in the world of music theater dance and my degree I can tell you mao asada= excellent "artist" yuna WHATEVER IDON´TCARE
@lilymaoas Breakdance is not an art? LOL, in bboying, we dance to express ourselves and we got no rules to expressing it. in your shitty theater dance class, u got rules and limited moves to express yourself. creativity plays a huge role in freestylin. we take the creativity and the art of dancing to the whole new level, unlike other dances in the world. with my dance background, mao asada doing triple axel 100,000 times doesn't impress me. keep whining bcz in d end, results speak for themselves
@EdDy4RheelZ if mao asada¿s 3 axel dosen´t impress you then what do u impress with yuna´s 3 jumps?? so... what??? figure skating is an sport and an art too and the only girl who has ability, determination, flexibility etc. is mao asada not yuna kim. yuna is sexy so maybe you are in love with her but she is not better than mao asada in anything and your right breakdance is a way to express your self and is verry difficult but is not an art is like comparate mozart with 50 cent i mean come on
@lilymaoas I think ur still stuck in the past of 2005-2007 when Mao was better than Yu-na. I understand kiddo. But you gotta realize that times change. Yu-na has won every international competitions during 09-10. Reason why Triple axel does not impress me is because i've seen it thousands of times and she never performs it well with her pieces. In other words, she's got no artistry. Watch this Japanese documentary called Yu-na Kim vs Mao Asada by NHK and they'll perfectly explain why Yuna won
@lilymaoas Right. and who's bolshoi? NHK documentary of Mao Asada vs Kim Yu-na is actually a documentary, not someone's opinion. It interviewed many athletes, including Mao Asada, Yu-na Kim, Brian Orser, Tatiana Tarasova, etc. It was a debrief of many events that happened and led to the Olympics event. Mao admits her defeat to Yu-na hands down and explains how she'll train harder for 2014 Sochi. So as you can see here, only ugly Mao fans such as urself who are full of denial can't see this.
@EdDy4RheelZ No the competition was judged correctly. Mao and Yuna were so far ahead of the rest of the field it was laughable. Yuna of course should have won, but her score of 150 was quite ludicrous, should have been no higher than 140. Most of the marks were quite inflated for all the skaters. I also think Mirai Nagasu probably should have slightly outscored Joannie in the LP but not enough to overtake her for the bronze. The judges took an extremely long time to give Mirai's marks, fixed?
@StewNWT I never berated the judges. Who am I to criticize or tell them anyways. It's no doubt Yu-na deserves gold. Scores inflated? doubt it. As I mentioned, check out the Japanese documentary Mao Asada and Yu-na Kim. It shows how Yu-na overcame her rival by mastering every part of elements in figure skating since she cannot outperform Mao in triple axel. Every single movements and scoring is explained in that documentary by NHK.
@StewNWT It becomes extremely laughable and a joke when someone says Mao deserves gold. I'm not a figure skating expert who can spot mistakes easily but when I saw Mao cork her leg and trip backwards, how does that qualify for gold medal? Most people on youtube are even debating whether Mao should've even gotten silver at all but yet, they compare Mao over Yu-na in gold medal? LOL that is what becomes laughable.
Haha, talk about an ugly spread eagle- Mao's is the ugliest, she might as well not be doing it, it hurts my eyes so, lol. 3a cheated with no flow, spins that start fast but slow way down, overrated footwork, and worst of all, absolutely no connection or feel with the music. Mao's skating is good- for deaf people. And blind, and or stupid. In no way did this girl deserve over 70 for the sp, she was so gifted. And over 200 for the total was a joke. Joannie should have won silver.
Mao, a self-proclaimed hard-technical skater and a world-top-ranking skater, is not even able to do a Triple-Triple combination, or Triple Lutz, or even a Triple Salcow (second easiest triple jump). She even made a mistake on her triple toe-loop, the easiest trilpe. An individual solitary triple Axel, not even well-done enough, without a firm support from good execution of other jump elements, is all she's got.
Not only that, but I wish judges would stop awarding Yu-Na for doing things like spread eagles before her jumps. While I agree that it does make the combination harder, her positions are TERRIBLE. She might as well not be doing it. Award elements by how WELL they are done, not because the skater is just DOING it! Isn't that what is what the COP is about? Why does that all of a sudden change when Yu-Na is on the ice?
Whatever, Mao was amazing at these Olympics no matter what the scores say.
I definitely prefer Mao over Yu-Na as a skater, however because of her unfortunate mistakes at the end of her free skate, I don't think it is logical to say she should have won.
I don't agree though that she should have lost with such a margin behind Kim. While everyone's scores were inflated by like 5 points, Kim's scores were ridiculously inflated by I'd say almost 15. I really wish that the judging system would boost up the points awarded to a 3A, it should not be less than a 3Lz+3T(cont)
The truth be told, Yuna Kim and Mao Asada are equally good skaters I don't believe one is better than the other. However we must admit that a Japanese female skater won the 2006 Torino Gold medal in womens figure skating and that could be the reason why Mao did not win and Yuna Kim. If you do not think that the Olympic games are political, well you better think again.
Obviously Mao is not in the same league with Yuna. FS is not all about triple axel and she and the rest of the ppl who know nothing about FS ought to know that.
It is about the qualities of art, tech, grace and even charisma---and Yuna Kim DEF. has them all. ENOUGH SAID.
@0607timgo I wouldn't say so. How is Asada the most overrated? She's done more than Kim has done Before Torino and Vancouver. And I believe Mao trying triple axel shows she has guts to even do it, especially in the Olympics. Mao changed the way she skated since her first world title. But she still has that prescence we all see. Kim is good in all, but she doesn't have everything at all. She has the jumps and the sexyness of her skating, but she needs to work on spirals and spins.
@0607timgo I've also seen other skaters with better spirals and spins. Try not to judge skaters because they are overrated, try appreciating and learning that they went far to even come to the Olympics and/or even try triple axels or quads. Kim and Asada are in their own league. They are both different.
People need to just shut the fuck up....how about all you haters go on an ice like this and do what all the girls did at the Olympics...jesus christ people, Mao and Yu Na are in two different leagues and strengths....both are great skaters so get over it!
mao was the skater who was shining the most that day, I was soo mad when I found out she didn't when gold at the olympics, especially after I found out that yunas program won it was so shallow and I was completely speechles. I don't want to sound rude but to be honest I didn't like yuna kims program, I found mao's a hundred time more inspiring....
@star915 well that was my personal oppinion, if you don't seem to like it it's your problem but that is just how I one of many felt at that moment,and I found the diffrence between the scores at the olympics ridicoulesly huge, which didn't make any sense. and I actually like yuna kim but her program at the olympics and worlds was soo overscored..
honestly ... everyone's complaining that yuna's score at the olympics is too high but i know she deserved every .01 point she recieved. i just dont understand how mao got a 205... thats close to yuna's old record at 09 wc and her performances there were incredible and flawless/
yuna missed her 3S in 09wc, and the final combination spin got her no points (invalid element) cos she forgot to put in the flying entrance, thats some 8-9points in total she lost.
Mao missed her 3T and got her 3F downgraded so thats also around 9points. so the final score actually make sense.
jugdes in the Olympics are above average elites, Mao is as I may say belong to the levels of geniuses,and only geniuses can understand a fellow genuises., no offense but Mao's choice of music is beyond the above average level... even the great composers and the likes of vivaldy etc. are underrated during their time.how can you judge a program that is above a person's understanding?
Is this the only way for Mao to win gold medal?? She needs so much help of YuNa to make tons of mistake while she goes super clean programs. LOL Does this lady have a future if Yuna comes back for next season??
Kim and Mao should have only been separated by a point at the most. Why? In my opinion Mao has better spirals and footwork. I'll leave them even on the spins. And since Mao was clean in the short, I think she got underscored. Kim skated brilliantly but she was a little conservative on the artistry that she's know for but I guess the judges missed that. My point is that I don't think Kim should have entered the long with that humongous lead the JUDGES gave her. But she did win the long IMO.
If I were her coach, on short program I'll put 3A, 3f+3T or 3f+3Lo, 3F she can do this, for the long program 3A, 3A+2T, 3f+2t+2lo, 3F+3lo or 3f+3T, 3T, 3Lo, 2A. Increased transition and program components.
you did a great job in olympic considering pressure.congrats your silver!!!
i want to give you advices as a figure fan.
1) skate faster,jump longer and higher.
2) show art to fans, specially your 3-flipz, your weird Robot entry without any feeling looks silly. because figure is kinda art. 3) when u do fly sitspin. don't make your leg down. it's not a good quality. 4)learn 3l,3F,salco first..not 3A. 5) Try to remove pre,under rotation of ur 3A.and do not twist face, ankle, body.
Mao stole Joannies's Silver medal. Mao did make so many mistakes and not fully rotations. I was there and I saw she did not rotate fully for trip axels. she cheated!!!
@macmakeup4ever : I think the judges know who they want to win. For example Scott Hamilton said that Mao did Triple A Double T and Kim triple flip triple toe. Evan Lysaceck beat Plushenko and Plushenko had not half but a whole revolution more that Evan. Case in point Kim and Mao in the Short, Kim only had a half a revolution more and yet she entered the long with a 5 point lead. While plushenko had like a 1 point lead.
mother of mao asada dies before japanese skater returns home from grand prix final in canada.
her mother was ill....long time.
our thought are with mao and her family.
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Mao Asada is the most overrated figure skater in history.
What does she have except cheating 3A?
Her 3A is not fully rotated so many times and she gets full credits for it.Very funny.
Asada's 3A and the 3A-2T jumps have a full rotation problem.
She has NO speed NO height NO artistry NO basic jumping skill.
Don't you see that she is not even able? to jump well triple lutz, triple salchow and triple flip?
japmoneyfuckyou 5 months ago
Well ppl both yuna and asada have their own strength yuna's is her speed, her goe earning huge jumps and edge with musical movements. While asadas is her flexibility, her lines, and her light smooth movements. Stop arguing!!!
taylorlautnerS2 5 months ago
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why poor koreans watching this???
so pathetic!!!
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Asada is a CHEATER
A Notorious Cheat = LOSER ASADA
Asada is hated by other figure skaters
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Mao Asada is hated by other figure skaters
Fixed Score Asada
PCS QUEEN ASADA
ASADA BOUGHT JUDGES
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rkawkrhrnak1 8 months ago 8
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Why would anyone say she lacks speed? It seems super fast to me...
her speed goes down just before the jumps. That's it.
yi81 8 months ago 4
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YUNA IS THE BEST ..
jennyrose1994 10 months ago 5
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Yu-na > Mao
Yu-na is consistent and never placed off a podium. She always got 1st-3rd ever since she competed in the high-level competition. Mao Asada is never consistent. Wtf is up with her? she can't even rank within top 3 this year.
Not only that, she's such a selfish person. she never donated a single yen to any type of charity or donations. Yu-na = UNICEF ambassador.
Fuck Mao. selfish bitch even when she has more money than yu-na.
EdDy4RheelZ 10 months ago
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@EdDy4RheelZ Coz she is a slut not ecouse she deserve and that is the reason i don´t respet her so sorry she is not better than mao just Korean ppl buy the competitions
lilymaoas 7 months ago
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Mao used to be better than Yuna in like 2005.
Yuna trained more and got better than Mao in 2010-2011.
End of story. lol
musicalmelody818 10 months ago
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@musicalmelody818 Korean ppl pay in 2006 for yuna victory i mean hello ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ this girl do the same program but with different music patetic
lilymaoas 7 months ago
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@lilymaoas Wow, how did you find this out? Because i'm pretty sure it's false. If you are good at figure skating then you can obviously tell the difference. Yuna is more artistic and technical. That should be obvious.
musicalmelody818 7 months ago
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Mao's boring program always makes me sleep.
Tequlilaconlimon 1 year ago
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@Tequlilaconlimon Coue not everybody understand art hanny jut ppl with art instructions... ppl like you likes eassy music and sluty ppl like yuna bitch....i mean yuna kim =)
lilymaoas 7 months ago
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@lilymaoas Uh. And even though two people have similar programs. The way they execute the programs will OBVIOUSLY be DIFFERENT because they are DIFFERENT people. /smh .. Having similar moves doesn't make it the same score. Why do all the American commentators like her then? Because she has skill. They won't like her if she's a bad figure skater. Why do you automatically call her a bitch? pfft. lame
musicalmelody818 7 months ago
@musicalmelody818 Becouse she is a BITCH , i mean she looks cheap...or do you prefer to tell her slut, or whore?????????
lilymaoas 3 months ago
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Oh, and NHK is a Japanese broadcasting company. So please do not come up with any accusation of being biased because there is no reason for them to be biased towards Koreans as they have analyzed all the events of how Yu-na overcame her challenge and her rival Mao Asada.
But I gotta say, it sure gets ugly when nationalism and extreme fanatism are injected into an ugly head.
EdDy4RheelZ 1 year ago
Woo.. thanks for uploading this vid but..
you went to the LIVE stadium but all you took at vid is TV screen?... wanna cry. (T-T)
IIIIIIIIlII 1 year ago
Hope she get a gold next olympic she deserve also the gold..i've watch her and yuna kim since their Jr time..i love the way they compete head to head..if she can only get a new coach much better for her......Good luck
centhoover 1 year ago
I agree, I've looked at past protocols of Yuna's performances and if she had skated clean in all of them as she did at the Olympics, her score would consistently be around 140. Mao's score was reasonable, although she should have gotten higher GOE's for her triple axels.
Algorithm16 1 year ago
None of commentators ever said that Mao deserved the gold or didn't deserve the silver. Be serious people. I don't believe that any of you after Mao's FS thought: "she surely will beat Yuna" or after Joannie FS: "she surely will beat Mao". Gold and silver medals were obvious.
But I agree some scores were very strange. I don't get how Yuna could get 5,40 points for spirals in SP- just like Mao did. And higher scores for spins.
resfriada1 1 year ago
@resfriada1 There's this Japanese documentary from NHK called Mao Asada and Yu-na Kim which was made after Olympics. They explain everything there. I watched it with Korean subtitles. But I wish there was English subtitles for it. It's very interesting. You should check it out.
EdDy4RheelZ 1 year ago
Anyone who thinks Mao deserved gold medal seriously need to get their eyes checked. While I got nothing against Mao Asada, she was nowhere near receiving gold medal for the Olympics, not to mention all the mess ups she made in the long program. If you honestly cannot see this, then you are clearly blinded by your Mao fanatism. Artistry requires all elements on figure skating, not solely on triple axel.
EdDy4RheelZ 1 year ago
@EdDy4RheelZ You weren't listening to what I said. Everyone knows Yuna was the deserving champion. However, as someone who skated and followed skating, I can tell you Yuna's marks were far too high. She should not have scored 150, 140 is more reasonable.
StewNWT 1 year ago
@StewNWT A perfect, flawless performance deserves perfect, flawless scores. In the previous system... it would've been 6s across the board.
vihzelx 1 year ago
@vihzelx for sure she would have gotten a ton of 6.0s, however the new system has a finite value for each element that is assigned, and a score of 150 is so far beyond anything even remotely reasonable for a women's program. Look at the 2007 worlds and all the amazing performances there and they were barely cracking 130. The whole Olympics the scores were somewhat inflated, but Yuna's was definitely the most bloated of all. A clean win with a score of 140. Mao/Joannie 125-130 max
StewNWT 1 year ago
@StewNWT At the Olympics, judges take into consideration that the Olympics is the most important competition of the athletes' lives. They reward high GOE's "Grade of Execution" (Extra points for doing something well) because of the immense amount of pressure. My example would be Joanie Rochette. She got the highest GOE's for her short program because her mother passed away 5 days before.
leadpencil96 1 year ago
@leadpencil96 I'm sorry but that's ridiculous - skaters are awarded for what is completed on the ice. Full stop. In past Olympics athletes have actually be marked quite severely because the judges are poring over every little detail in a program. Joannie's SP was flawless, and she got excellent GOEs. It's silly to suggest she was marked up in the short because of her mother.
Now in the long program, Mirai Nagasu probably should have gotten a higher mark that Joannie, or perhaps even Mao.
StewNWT 1 year ago
@StewNWT .....
leadpencil96 1 year ago
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@StewNWT Did you see the audience votes on Vancouver olympics site? People are rating Mirai Nagasu on top of Mao for long program. Now, what makes me laugh is how people would even compare Mao and Yu-na of whether Mao should've received gold or is better when people are even debating whether Mao should've even received silver since she screwed up so many times in the long program.
EdDy4RheelZ 1 year ago
Why are people sweating their panties over triple axels? figure skating is judged based on many elements. This ain't figureskatastics. Only advantage Mao had over Yu-na was triple axel. Mao's spiral sequence, flying spin, jump combinations, spin combination, layback spin, ina bauer, were all inferior to Yu-na's. You guys are whining how Yuna's scores were inflated. All of those points added up, which far exceeded Mao's scores. what's the point of having triple axel when u fuck up other elements?
EdDy4RheelZ 1 year ago
i can´t belive it¡¡¡¡¡¡ she deserves gold what tha hell is wrong with isu are stupids or what??? this was mao year and she did a amazing job nobody can't do this on years
lilymaoas 1 year ago
@lilymaoas You can't be serious,right? Gold? People are debating whether Mao should've even received Silver or not. People are debating that Mao should've gotten bronze or none at all. And you're spewing that Mao deserved gold? LMAO. not to mention the ugly mess ups she made in long program that downgraded her so much. beffore calling isu, you should get some check-up on yourself. =)
EdDy4RheelZ 1 year ago
@EdDy4RheelZ i think she deserves gold and i think she deserves haiger score she is so amazing to watch she is a gif for Figure skating if you tink youna deserves gold or joannie silver is because you have no idea of what art or artistic means do you know somethink about art ? why not see some of the ballet and then talk i cant do this if you are in 0 as art relates
lilymaoas 1 year ago
@lilymaoas Sure I do. I'm not a figure skater but I am a bboy(breakdancer). I know what it takes to be a dancer. Acrobatic moves doesn't define you as a dancer. As I said, only advantage Mao had over Yu-na was triple axel, nothing else. She had no artistry in her work. All of her other elements were inferior to Yuna's. And trust me, bitch, I know what I'm talking about. Even Japanese documentary of NHK's Mao Asada vs Yuna-Kim reveals this. Yuna = artistic. Mao = gymnast.
EdDy4RheelZ 1 year ago
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@EdDy4RheelZ you callme bitch? I can see that exudes class and therefore know what it means be elegant sorry but i have bad news bboy (lol) breakedance is not an art I am very surprised that being a dancer you do´t know the difference between the elgenacia and flexibility so it is useless to talk to you about something that you could´t understand with my 15 years of experience in the world of music theater dance and my degree I can tell you mao asada= excellent "artist" yuna WHATEVER IDON´TCARE
lilymaoas 1 year ago
@lilymaoas Breakdance is not an art? LOL, in bboying, we dance to express ourselves and we got no rules to expressing it. in your shitty theater dance class, u got rules and limited moves to express yourself. creativity plays a huge role in freestylin. we take the creativity and the art of dancing to the whole new level, unlike other dances in the world. with my dance background, mao asada doing triple axel 100,000 times doesn't impress me. keep whining bcz in d end, results speak for themselves
EdDy4RheelZ 1 year ago
@EdDy4RheelZ if mao asada¿s 3 axel dosen´t impress you then what do u impress with yuna´s 3 jumps?? so... what??? figure skating is an sport and an art too and the only girl who has ability, determination, flexibility etc. is mao asada not yuna kim. yuna is sexy so maybe you are in love with her but she is not better than mao asada in anything and your right breakdance is a way to express your self and is verry difficult but is not an art is like comparate mozart with 50 cent i mean come on
lilymaoas 1 year ago
@lilymaoas I think ur still stuck in the past of 2005-2007 when Mao was better than Yu-na. I understand kiddo. But you gotta realize that times change. Yu-na has won every international competitions during 09-10. Reason why Triple axel does not impress me is because i've seen it thousands of times and she never performs it well with her pieces. In other words, she's got no artistry. Watch this Japanese documentary called Yu-na Kim vs Mao Asada by NHK and they'll perfectly explain why Yuna won
EdDy4RheelZ 1 year ago
@EdDy4RheelZ i have a video of a ballet lady (bolshoi) explain why mao shuld win and why mao shuld win in the program componente score so...
lilymaoas 1 year ago 3
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@lilymaoas Right. and who's bolshoi? NHK documentary of Mao Asada vs Kim Yu-na is actually a documentary, not someone's opinion. It interviewed many athletes, including Mao Asada, Yu-na Kim, Brian Orser, Tatiana Tarasova, etc. It was a debrief of many events that happened and led to the Olympics event. Mao admits her defeat to Yu-na hands down and explains how she'll train harder for 2014 Sochi. So as you can see here, only ugly Mao fans such as urself who are full of denial can't see this.
EdDy4RheelZ 1 year ago
@EdDy4RheelZ No the competition was judged correctly. Mao and Yuna were so far ahead of the rest of the field it was laughable. Yuna of course should have won, but her score of 150 was quite ludicrous, should have been no higher than 140. Most of the marks were quite inflated for all the skaters. I also think Mirai Nagasu probably should have slightly outscored Joannie in the LP but not enough to overtake her for the bronze. The judges took an extremely long time to give Mirai's marks, fixed?
StewNWT 1 year ago
@StewNWT I never berated the judges. Who am I to criticize or tell them anyways. It's no doubt Yu-na deserves gold. Scores inflated? doubt it. As I mentioned, check out the Japanese documentary Mao Asada and Yu-na Kim. It shows how Yu-na overcame her rival by mastering every part of elements in figure skating since she cannot outperform Mao in triple axel. Every single movements and scoring is explained in that documentary by NHK.
EdDy4RheelZ 1 year ago
@StewNWT It becomes extremely laughable and a joke when someone says Mao deserves gold. I'm not a figure skating expert who can spot mistakes easily but when I saw Mao cork her leg and trip backwards, how does that qualify for gold medal? Most people on youtube are even debating whether Mao should've even gotten silver at all but yet, they compare Mao over Yu-na in gold medal? LOL that is what becomes laughable.
EdDy4RheelZ 1 year ago
@EdDy4RheelZ I totally Agree!!
leadpencil96 1 year ago
Haha, talk about an ugly spread eagle- Mao's is the ugliest, she might as well not be doing it, it hurts my eyes so, lol. 3a cheated with no flow, spins that start fast but slow way down, overrated footwork, and worst of all, absolutely no connection or feel with the music. Mao's skating is good- for deaf people. And blind, and or stupid. In no way did this girl deserve over 70 for the sp, she was so gifted. And over 200 for the total was a joke. Joannie should have won silver.
2ndAveLine 1 year ago
Mao, a self-proclaimed hard-technical skater and a world-top-ranking skater, is not even able to do a Triple-Triple combination, or Triple Lutz, or even a Triple Salcow (second easiest triple jump). She even made a mistake on her triple toe-loop, the easiest trilpe. An individual solitary triple Axel, not even well-done enough, without a firm support from good execution of other jump elements, is all she's got.
wa08ch03 1 year ago
Not only that, but I wish judges would stop awarding Yu-Na for doing things like spread eagles before her jumps. While I agree that it does make the combination harder, her positions are TERRIBLE. She might as well not be doing it. Award elements by how WELL they are done, not because the skater is just DOING it! Isn't that what is what the COP is about? Why does that all of a sudden change when Yu-Na is on the ice?
Whatever, Mao was amazing at these Olympics no matter what the scores say.
pinto89100 1 year ago
I definitely prefer Mao over Yu-Na as a skater, however because of her unfortunate mistakes at the end of her free skate, I don't think it is logical to say she should have won.
I don't agree though that she should have lost with such a margin behind Kim. While everyone's scores were inflated by like 5 points, Kim's scores were ridiculously inflated by I'd say almost 15. I really wish that the judging system would boost up the points awarded to a 3A, it should not be less than a 3Lz+3T(cont)
pinto89100 1 year ago
@pinto89100 They actually are boosting the 3A points this season. :)
JadedLilth 1 year ago
The truth be told, Yuna Kim and Mao Asada are equally good skaters I don't believe one is better than the other. However we must admit that a Japanese female skater won the 2006 Torino Gold medal in womens figure skating and that could be the reason why Mao did not win and Yuna Kim. If you do not think that the Olympic games are political, well you better think again.
marellamofo 1 year ago
mao asada should have won. kim yuna moved to canada when she learned the olympics were there just so she could win. unfair judgement.
shdavidson1996 1 year ago
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My absolute favorite performance of all the disciplines from the Olympics. Perfect athleticism and perfect artistry. Gold medalist in my mind.
cherrywood0447 1 year ago 4
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i LOVE yu na kim but i think that mao asada should hav gotten gold while yu na kim gets silver.
ih8fishstix 1 year ago 14
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Miki Ando has better technical skills than Mao Asada.
But Japanese sponsors support Mao cuz she has commercials with them.
She was not that good enough to get silver.
Joannie Rochette and Mirai Nagasu were much better than her.
CheatingMao 1 year ago
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some Kim's fans have decided that Asada's strength is only 3A.
However, it's not trure.
Her skating is elegant. Her spin and spiral are owsome.
some Asada's fans are thinking that Kim won because of sexy movement and inflated GOE.
However, it's not trure.
Her speed of skating is great and jumping ability is distinguished.
It's not war. We should recognize these facts.
otlovemh 1 year ago 5
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Mao is the most overated figure skater.
Obviously Mao is not in the same league with Yuna. FS is not all about triple axel and she and the rest of the ppl who know nothing about FS ought to know that.
It is about the qualities of art, tech, grace and even charisma---and Yuna Kim DEF. has them all. ENOUGH SAID.
0607timgo 1 year ago
@0607timgo
Many skaters show us their natural ability at Gala program since they are just enjoying skating. Please watch her some gala.
If you will claim same thing after watching them, I cannot say anything to you.
Because it is different how we understand artistry and grace, it may be difficult to compromise.
otlovemh 1 year ago 2
@0607timgo I wouldn't say so. How is Asada the most overrated? She's done more than Kim has done Before Torino and Vancouver. And I believe Mao trying triple axel shows she has guts to even do it, especially in the Olympics. Mao changed the way she skated since her first world title. But she still has that prescence we all see. Kim is good in all, but she doesn't have everything at all. She has the jumps and the sexyness of her skating, but she needs to work on spirals and spins.
EscoIceSk8 1 year ago
@0607timgo I've also seen other skaters with better spirals and spins. Try not to judge skaters because they are overrated, try appreciating and learning that they went far to even come to the Olympics and/or even try triple axels or quads. Kim and Asada are in their own league. They are both different.
EscoIceSk8 1 year ago
Thank you!!!!
konoiti89 1 year ago 4
People need to just shut the fuck up....how about all you haters go on an ice like this and do what all the girls did at the Olympics...jesus christ people, Mao and Yu Na are in two different leagues and strengths....both are great skaters so get over it!
KEBokeh 1 year ago
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mao was the skater who was shining the most that day, I was soo mad when I found out she didn't when gold at the olympics, especially after I found out that yunas program won it was so shallow and I was completely speechles. I don't want to sound rude but to be honest I didn't like yuna kims program, I found mao's a hundred time more inspiring....
wsfggf 1 year ago 4
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@wsfggf wow you must have a weird taste.
star915 1 year ago
@star915 well that was my personal oppinion, if you don't seem to like it it's your problem but that is just how I one of many felt at that moment,and I found the diffrence between the scores at the olympics ridicoulesly huge, which didn't make any sense. and I actually like yuna kim but her program at the olympics and worlds was soo overscored..
wsfggf 1 year ago
you are awesome!
sayomsskiver 1 year ago
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kk yuna kim!! the queen! "mao wasn't near yuna's class" said the thingy.. true! mao can never beat kim yuna, never she will always be the second
TVXQforever101 1 year ago
oh my god you filmed this live!!
i remember sitting at home watching this live on tv and wishing more than anything that i could be there
this is as close as i can get!! thanks for uploading you're so lucky!!
Sabrina7722772 1 year ago 7
@Sabrina7722772
My seats were so far away I left and went down to the bottom of the stairs and zoomed right in. Was a fantastic night though.
macmakeup4ever 1 year ago
just tasteless
just dull
staeyaarnsy 1 year ago
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i honestly find mao asada to have more charisma, she may not have the perfect moves but her ice skating is filled with pure artistry and emotion!
ClannadForever 1 year ago 10
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There is nothing much to talk about Mao Asada except her tricky cheating "triple axel" jump.
What more does she have???
Mao has NO speed, NO artistry, NO height in jumps, NO correct triple jump technics according to most of experts...etc.
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ahreum027 1 year ago
@876snow
日本語おかしい
DAIMAOUWAMUTEKI 1 year ago
korean stalkers are
many many staying in this forum!
they are pervert!
GOD! PLEASE SAVE MAO
maoasadasidmao1932 1 year ago
@maoasadasidmao1932 you're absolutely right!! i'm one of them!!
BTC141 1 year ago
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honestly ... everyone's complaining that yuna's score at the olympics is too high but i know she deserved every .01 point she recieved. i just dont understand how mao got a 205... thats close to yuna's old record at 09 wc and her performances there were incredible and flawless/
iimissdramaticii 1 year ago
@iimissdramaticii mao's was also incredible and flawless if you ask me. plus a triple axel. and yuna was overscored this time.
Sumeow 1 year ago
@Sumeow did you watch her freeskate?!?! she singled TWO jumps and had a crooked landing on one of the jumps.
iimissdramaticii 1 year ago
@iimissdramaticii
she singled one jump only, and thats the 3T, as far as i remember.
kelshj 1 year ago
@Sumeow You meant Mao was overscored, right?
KellyBasu 1 year ago
@KellyBasu haha... no...
Sumeow 1 year ago
@iimissdramaticii
yuna missed her 3S in 09wc, and the final combination spin got her no points (invalid element) cos she forgot to put in the flying entrance, thats some 8-9points in total she lost.
Mao missed her 3T and got her 3F downgraded so thats also around 9points. so the final score actually make sense.
kelshj 1 year ago
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KOMAKIM55 1 year ago
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jugdes in the Olympics are above average elites, Mao is as I may say belong to the levels of geniuses,and only geniuses can understand a fellow genuises., no offense but Mao's choice of music is beyond the above average level... even the great composers and the likes of vivaldy etc. are underrated during their time.how can you judge a program that is above a person's understanding?
junyamontealegre 1 year ago 2
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日本人は英語知らなくてなぜヨナの実力がウィインジ分からない。一度nbcヨナの解説ビデオの1つでもウシ椈？少なくともオルリムピクマンほらなぜスコアが高いかどうか記載されてから。専門家は、150期待していました。スペインの解説解釈してほら。
876snow 1 year ago
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Is this the only way for Mao to win gold medal?? She needs so much help of YuNa to make tons of mistake while she goes super clean programs. LOL Does this lady have a future if Yuna comes back for next season??
youtubo1073 1 year ago
@youtubo1073 the question here is do you, yourself have a future?
junyamontealegre 1 year ago 2
@junyamontealegre fck u
bibitg 1 year ago
@bibitg I will take that as a promise,. what ever that causes you to tell me that.
junyamontealegre 1 year ago
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whats the name for the song she skates?!! i skate the same song but i can't find the name!!! please answer!!
bibitg 1 year ago
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whats the name for the song she skates?!! i skate the same song but i can't find the name!!! please answer!!
bibitg 1 year ago
whats the name for the first song she skates?!! i skate the same song but i can't find the name!!!
bibitg 1 year ago
@bibitg it's Masquerade by Aram Khachaturian
ClannadForever 1 year ago
Kim and Mao should have only been separated by a point at the most. Why? In my opinion Mao has better spirals and footwork. I'll leave them even on the spins. And since Mao was clean in the short, I think she got underscored. Kim skated brilliantly but she was a little conservative on the artistry that she's know for but I guess the judges missed that. My point is that I don't think Kim should have entered the long with that humongous lead the JUDGES gave her. But she did win the long IMO.
vluis16 1 year ago 2
what is the title of the music when she did main program?
Who chooses the music for her? to me, it is so heavy, heavy
honolulutradewind 1 year ago
@honolulutradewind I think so too, the music is veryvery high level thinking she is just 19
junyamontealegre 1 year ago
rather do triple axel double axel combination....
sumimimi0 1 year ago
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loser..
karltewes 1 year ago
I don't know much about ijs but what about 3a, 2a, 3+3
skadadz 1 year ago
you're SO lucky to have been there!
iluvutube87 1 year ago 4
If I were her coach, on short program I'll put 3A, 3f+3T or 3f+3Lo, 3F she can do this, for the long program 3A, 3A+2T, 3f+2t+2lo, 3F+3lo or 3f+3T, 3T, 3Lo, 2A. Increased transition and program components.
skadadz 1 year ago
@skadadz You can't have 3A as your axel jump because 2A is the required element
jtl8787 1 year ago
Waltz Masquerade by A. Katchaturian is the piece of music
nomads77 1 year ago
pleas name song
666KUPA666 1 year ago
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She's amazing.
barkingtree88 1 year ago 41
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Mao
最後の一生懸命な口笛に萌えたｗ
vleoi492v 1 year ago 7
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to.mao
you did a great job in olympic considering pressure.congrats your silver!!!
i want to give you advices as a figure fan.
1) skate faster,jump longer and higher.
2) show art to fans, specially your 3-flipz, your weird Robot entry without any feeling looks silly. because figure is kinda art. 3) when u do fly sitspin. don't make your leg down. it's not a good quality. 4)learn 3l,3F,salco first..not 3A. 5) Try to remove pre,under rotation of ur 3A.and do not twist face, ankle, body.
NeoMozartofMatrix 2 years ago
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NeoMozartofMatrix 2 years ago
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What a fat arrogant Jap bitch...
japaneatdollpins 2 years ago
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Even with the 2 triple axels....YAWN
twilliger123 2 years ago
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Kim Yu-na is much better
winniepisces 2 years ago
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Kim stole gold medal.
YOSSANKOSSUN 2 years ago
@YOSSANKOSSUN
saburouxp 1 year ago
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Mao stole Joannies's Silver medal. Mao did make so many mistakes and not fully rotations. I was there and I saw she did not rotate fully for trip axels. she cheated!!!
tomynator 2 years ago
I dont understand sometimes why judges score the way they do
macmakeup4ever 2 years ago 28
@macmakeup4ever : I think the judges know who they want to win. For example Scott Hamilton said that Mao did Triple A Double T and Kim triple flip triple toe. Evan Lysaceck beat Plushenko and Plushenko had not half but a whole revolution more that Evan. Case in point Kim and Mao in the Short, Kim only had a half a revolution more and yet she entered the long with a 5 point lead. While plushenko had like a 1 point lead.
vluis16 1 year ago
@macmakeup4ever I totally agree but judges are judges.....
junyamontealegre 1 year ago
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joannies don{t deserve anything don´ñt be silly ignornce
lilymaoas 2 years ago
Sorry Coolio, I meant to delete one of my comments and accidentally deleted yours! But thank you! Olympics live are def more amazing than tv!
macmakeup4ever 2 years ago 5
were you there? at the olympics?
DomoXDWobbuffet 2 years ago
yes, I did attend some of the events at the Olympics
macmakeup4ever 2 years ago
@macmakeup4ever: lucky, thats cool :D
DomoXDWobbuffet 2 years ago 4