Don Drago's MUGEN SNIPER: bad BASIC MvC Coding!

[MCELVAINE6996]

let me ask you how did you code those characters



[Renkay141]

Skill matters not Cheapness Spaming!

[Shmeckie]

5:00

The sight of Geese Howard pummeling Haruhi Suzumiya is the kind of thing I get out of bed in the morning for...!

[CAlex46]

for using a metal slug tune i must applaud you.

[Lenoh]

The last combo:

KYOKUGEN HYAKURETSUKEN!

Omae wa mou...shindeiru!

[Mo0jin]

Sorry for necrobumping Drago, but I was wondering how would you exactly fix the problem on launcher combo [when it should only connect once]?

[truedondrago]

I don't mind about necrobumping. I even like it :P

As for the launchers, you just remove fall = 1 from the hitdefs

If your combos don't connect after that, increase HitTime to 25 or 30

[lolhaxman]

didn't you make a balance patch for haruhi?

[Garionfeld]

Oh...Poor Misuzu T_T (HILAK MODE)

But on the Good Side However...WOW

Geese has now had 2002UM HSDM

Another Good Side: I Never knew that yashiro can dream cancel to harmgeddon fist from ankoku gokuraku otoshi. pretty clever.

[benimarucollider]

Interesting. What's your stance on the guardpush fail? You see, I've observed that either NO MUGEN CREATOR ON THE PLANET realizes that MvC guardpushes aren't supposed to make you UN-PUNISHABLY 100% INVINCIBLE, or they think that this is an alright work-around. Either way, I think they're stupid. The way everyone codes them, they can allow you to avoid massive amounts of chip damage for absolutely no cost or risk whatsoever. I'd like to know why they're coded this way even by veteran MvC players.

[truedondrago]

Already tried to do a vid where you guard push a beam super on MvC to prove it? You should. Vids work better than words. I already proved that, even in my Haruhi patch video.

And most veteran players aren't MUGEN creators. The applies to MvC and most Capcom games. KOF have better conversions because Debug DIP SW.

[benimarucollider]

I can't get a video capture of anything but MUGEN or Youtube worth shit. Maybe your video setup works better?

I guess you have a point there. Perhaps they should really learn MvC before trying to make characters in that style.

[redhurricane24]

100. Great video and keep exposing these flaws in MUGEN. 5/5

[ChiakiKakumei123]

What is the BGM u used during the last part of the video after Awe of She?

[truedondrago]

King Leo's theme from Kizuna Encounter. DON'T SEEK THE AST OR THE "OST"!!! IT SUCKS!!! KEEP A NEO GEO (NOT CD) RIP´THAT'S WAAAAAY BETTER (the one I put in this vid)

[MightyKombat]

Maybe MvC may never translate correctly to MUGEN. Its a shame, really.

[OfficialMC2]

Kamekaze, Nobuyuki, Splode. They already did.

[MightyKombat]

Oh. :P

Anyway, I'm surprised Drago hasn;'t tried to implement stuff from the MvC series, but his decision, eh.

INB4INEEDACHRISNAO

[truedondrago]

I've decided against that because button chain chars are TOO EASY to master.

And I DID implement that on my lab char: RB Geese all-in-one. He has a MvC Combo System.

[MightyKombat]

True, dat.Ah well. Its no big loss. The only MvC thing you implemented was the Kamehameha for Clone EVil Ryu's HSDM. :D

[truedondrago]

Sorry to disappoint you... that HSDM is from SvC MotM for Neo Geo Pocket. It even does the same 11 hits.

[MightyKombat]

I actually meant the graphics.Sorry for being too unclear, but yeah,I'm like that when I shouldn't be. :P

[benimarucollider]

Wait, WHAT?! Kamekaze?! That guy is such a n00b! He doesn't know damage dampening, he codes his attacks to be able to hit falling opponents, codes some attacks to fall that shouldn't, gives his characters WAY too many stupid links, and you can only chain standing attacks into standing attacks, or crouching attacks into crouching attacks. MvC offered the freedom to chain standing to crouching and vice-versa, and I'm sick of seeing that not adhered to, even if it's a minor issue.

[benimarucollider]

What's worse, Kamekaze fucking trolled me when I pointed out the guardpush thing (among other flaws in Sander's Wolverine) in response to MooMaster's vid of said Wolverine against Perfect Cell. He claimed, knowing otherwise, that the MvC guardpush WAS supposed to be invincible and came up with a ton of bullshit to try and defend himself because I was pissed off that people are so ignorant about the very fighting games they love so much. Finally, at one point, he admitted to trolling me.

[OfficialMC2]

You are right. I apologize for not having bloated standards or being an authority on MvC such as yourself. May I gain your forgiveness by modifying my MUGEN roster to match yours? Give me a list and I'll start now.

[benimarucollider]

What the fuck? That was uncalled for. "Bloated" standards? Bullshit. My standards are based on reason. I didn't claim to be an "authority" on MvC, although I did play the vs series obsessively for a few months, and learned alot. Those comments were not meant as an attack against you, so why would you need my forgiveness when you've done nothing for me to forgive? And would you mind telling me where I demanded you modify your roster to match mine?

[greatmuta2]

and this is why i hate little anime girls in mugen because not only do i not see one beating akuma they are ALL based on a badass char and look retarded and most are very cheap also who the hell made uesugi kenshin a girl o_0 thats fucked up

[Darkflares]

I like how you generalize a few broken ones and assume ALL of them are broken.

[greatmuta2]

well every single one ive tried is like that so im not really generalizing

[Darkflares]

Well, I have found anime girls that weren't as cheap as you say they were.

Maybe you just don't like New Gen mechanics.

[greatmuta2]

well are these recent? i havent played mugen for like 2 months lol ill give them a try

[Darkflares]

Your best bet would be 586's EFZ characters.

[OdaNoOwari]

I am sorry but you are calling EFZ "New Gen" mechanics? The game is pretty old and it's mechanics didn't bring much to the table. If you were at least talking about Arcana Heart I could understand.

[Darkflares]

New Gen = Mechanics that are more focused on combos than strong single strikes.

Guilty Gear is also New Gen even if it's actually a bit older than EFZ itself.

[OfficialMC2]

You don't see them beating Akuma?

It's kind of a fad for people to use those characters and fight KOF/Street Fighter characters for some reason.

[OdaNoOwari]

Exactly. I will never understand why people want to play as or even fight little girls.

[Vulcan422]

The ending was fucking awesome. 100-hit Shin Mr. Karate combo FTW!

[RicePigeon]

I take it this is directed towards the MvC conversions, but what about those that aren't? Would inducing Fall in a launcher in those cases still be considered a crime against fairness?

[truedondrago]

In this vid, there are chars that aren't supposed to be MvC-ish. If you can do a ZOMG combo without playing with the char for more than 3 minutes on your entire life, something is OBVIOUSLY wrong.

(or you just saw a combo vid... or you're a combomaster....)

Some authors put fall on purpose, to allow looser combos. Even if you screw up, you won't get punished, unlike MvC.

[zigg4d]

I'd like to add in- that falls for launchers are fair if said character has minimal or almost-non-existent comboability (at least with said launcher).

[truedondrago]

If the authors made better juggle limiters, and made the Air Combo Finisher drop the opponent faster, it would be acceptable.

[NFS4LFE]

I smell an EvilSlayer bash following...

[truedondrago]

Not quite, unless he comes after me. After all, I already sniped him with my past videos.

[NFS4LFE]

Sad thing is... he closed his account.

[truedondrago]

I know that. Just when he started to improve...

[OfficialMC2]

LMAO, that Misuzu was BS.