I bought the H2 a few days ago to record my drums cause my camera mic sounds crappy. I didn´t compare them in my video but the H2 sounds waaay better.
uumm... theres not much of a difference. I mean the zoom has obviously better range but in terms of clarity its about the same a freaking digital camera. -_-
@slodrum Hi! Yes, I used the comp 3 setting with LOW sensitivity. Recording level was probably around 40 (if i remember right, its been a while). Then I just used the H2's normalize function to bring the level up. I may have used Audacity to tweak the volume some more, but that would have been all i did. No effects were put on the recording.
@UkeOfEarl Thanks man, yeah I realized the sound volume difference when I put the video up. When I record with the h2, I typically put it on a low recording level and then normalize it back up. But the camera i was using here always recorded pretty loud and harsh (for drums at least imo), so maybe that has something to do with it, Im not totally sure.
@normandy100 I just recorded myself with my camera and mic. Put the recording over the video sound in windows movie maker, and move it until the sound matches the playing.
@dkucia11 Hey thanks, the mic is just off screen to the left. Its probably 3 ft away from the hihat. That room is not sound controlled in the least haha, its a double wide trailer actually.
Just made my own stack just like you did in this vid, you were the inspiration. Found a 10" AAX O-zone used for $70 and bought a 12" Hand Hammered Mini China cause I was looking for more of a darker tone. GREAT sound to it! Thanks for the inspiration to stack these cymbals and buy an H2. I'll expect a check in the mail to help pay for these, thanks :)
@GonzoDrummer27 Thats sweet, man. I love stacks. I actually haven't used the ozone/mini china stack in a while. But another one thats really cool is putting a 13" hi hat top upside down inside of a 17" aaxtreme chinese. It has the tone of a china cymbal but the sustain is cut down a lot. Another one that I want to try is a 14" evolution chinese on top of an 18" evolution crash, like dave weckl. And the H2 is a great choice! imo
Sick skills man. I'm in the market for an H2 right now, and your video really helped my decision. But I gotta know... what is that "stack" under that Paragon ride? I see an O-Zone splash, but what's underneath it?
@GonzoDrummer27 Hey thanks. The H2 in this video was stolen in February, so I was in the market for one too for a while haha. Bought a new one a few weeks ago. You're correct on the 10" o-zone splash, the bottom cymbal here was a 12" AAX mini chinese.
I doo love my Zoom H2. The only real down side is if your doing a single instrument recording, and its not faced directly at your instrument or your amp, it picks it up more on one side than the other. I love its quality though.
@PianoColinGuitar there is a setting called mono mix, itll let you place the mic however you want without worrying if itll sound on one side or the other
thanks for posting this, is great to have a comparison of the actual sound of the recorder rather than a 10 min review (which it's great too) without the posibility to hear it for yourself.
@Drummerkid74 Nah, it was upright, not diagonal at all. I had it on a mic stand. It was about 4-5 feet off the ground... not too high. It should still pick up fine if your bass drum is pointing away... on the ozone vid, the h2 was about 6-7 feet high pointing downwards and picked up the bass fine through the cymbal mix.
@Russ88765 I think its best to keep it closer. Sound waves spread apart as they gain distance, so closer is better... at least thats how I think of it. In a treated room like yours, i dont think room noise would play too much into things and would be subtle at worst. Personally though, I would import the play along track into audacity, then use the h2 as an interface to record you playing directly with the track. Then you wouldnt have to worry about recording with pa speakers at all.
@wickedexp That I do not know from experience. I read in a forum that it DOES work as an external mic in a canon hv20 camcorder, but Im not sure if thats the case for every camcorder.
@stef100125 Thanks man. I do use movie maker. Just import the recording as a music file, and line it up with the video manually. How did it fail when you tried it?
might I say, you have some amazing chops sir. But a quick question......is the sound on the h2 determined by placement. I would love to place one on my drum rack but am afraid I wont get good sound with it being placed higher then the drums. In terms of placement where would you put it? Lower? To the front? To the Side? Furthur from the Kit?
@collisionforce Thanks man. Well, id say the mix depends on placement, the sound quality will be good regardless, but the further away you put it, the more room noise there is. Here, the h2 was about 2 ft away to the left side of the kit. On my ozone ride video the h2 was on a boom stand 6 feet in the air pointing downwards directly behind me, and I liked the result. On my sextuplet fill video, the h2 was directly in front of the kit 3 feet out and 4 feet in the air. They all worked fine IMO.
awsome drum skills! hey, was wondering, can the recorder be put on a tripod? or attached to anything? im hoping to look for an audio recorder to do film stuff but my camcorder doesnt support an audio input. wud u rercommend it to film a conversation between two acters? haha, and how far wud they have to be from the mic? thanks, any help will be great. thanks.
@AlanChunkyMunky Yes it can! It has a threaded insert on the bottom that allows you to attach it to tripods with a threaded screw type mount. It does come with a "tripod" but its more like attachable feet. It also comes with a handle that you can screw into it that allows you to put it on a microphone stand. For film, it would work great but you would have to always manually sync the audio with the video, which I would/do find annoying. Then there's also the audio/video lag factor too.
They wouldn't have to be super close to the mic, but like any microphone, the further you move it away the more the room noise comes into play. I wouldn't really worry about it though, unless you are recording the conversation from across the room haha.
I just use windows movie maker.... its all i have. I've been doing some backing track videos recently also. What I've been doing is using the H2 as an interface to record audio directly into Audacity (a free program you can download online). You can import your backing track file into audacity, then record while you play along. Plug headphones into the "line out" port on the H2, and you can monitor what you're recording. Audacity will record you playing with the backing track.
Then, you can save the file as .wav or mp3 (i normally do .wav), and import it into windows movie maker. Then all you have to do is sync the audio and video together and you're done.
yeah, well if you're just trying to get some ideas recorded, the H2 would do fine, but it DOES have less features than the h4n. I absolutely love the h2, but i think the h4n might be a little better geared toward group recordings, especially with the 2 external mic inputs on the bottom.
Oh yeah man. You could set up around it and record 360. When I record my jazz combo, I normally just put it in front of the entire group, so it "hears" what the audience would hear.
Why does it sound dull and muffled with the H2? I was thinking about buying one of these but not so sure now. It seems like all the highs are missing...am I missing something?
depends on what setting & the compression from when the video & audio was uploaded, that's why these sort of comparisons on Youtube are a waste of time.
the H2 has so many mic settings, quality & gain settings... this vid does not paint any sort of clear picture as to what you can do & the quality you will get with experimenting.
IMO the H2 is the best low priced portable recorder going, i take mine to every rehearsal & session.... and it records my drums fine once i get it set for the room.
jigaboodle, i see what you're saying, but as highwood said the video file gets compressed by youtube during upload. The sound quality will suffer accordingly. The actual video file on my pc hard drive DOES have the high frequencies and the sounds are crisp crisp crisp. You watched the HQ version, right?
Yes, I have heard the HQ and you're right it does sound better...actually I'm getting very close to buying the H4n... I'm interested in the Sony PCMM10 as well--unfortunately it is too new to find any feedback on it yet.
I'm pretty sure it was to the left of the kit....the hihat side. It was set up right next to the camera, just off screen to the left. Thanks for the compliment!
It would record a solo guitar very well. Id say this thing is geared more towards solo instruments anyways. The sound quality has never disappointed me.
The zoom h2 has been absolutely amazing to work with. The recording quality is very honest. But I agree, the H4N would probably suit your band a little better with its features (4 track, external inputs, effects etc..). I mainly use the H2 for solo recording, and it just excels at it.
No, the H2 is not connected to the camera. I really wish there was a way to do that. I had to record the video and audio separately, then overlap them. It takes a little bit of time to get everything trimmed and lined up, but its a lot better than dealing with the mic on the camera. Thanks for the comment.
alright mate, how did you get the zoom h2 to be perfectly in sync with the camera's video but not using the camera's audio obs? and good drumming i like it :)
I bought the H2 a few days ago to record my drums cause my camera mic sounds crappy. I didn´t compare them in my video but the H2 sounds waaay better.
DezeDrummer 1 month ago
What kind of hats do you use?
simioen3 3 months ago
@simioen3 they are AAX Metal Hats 13" super super super BRIGHT hats. Honestly I dont like them that much anymore lol.
amishrockstar 2 months ago
@amishrockstar i feel the same way about my 13" aa fusion hats.... way too bright
datommaster 4 weeks ago
uumm... theres not much of a difference. I mean the zoom has obviously better range but in terms of clarity its about the same a freaking digital camera. -_-
anbmjj 3 months ago
hey mate,u were using comp3 settings,what about sensitivity, (l,m,h,..) and did you add any sort of effects on pc to improve the drum sound..
thank's for you answer fella
cheers'!!
slodrum 4 months ago
@slodrum Hi! Yes, I used the comp 3 setting with LOW sensitivity. Recording level was probably around 40 (if i remember right, its been a while). Then I just used the H2's normalize function to bring the level up. I may have used Audacity to tweak the volume some more, but that would have been all i did. No effects were put on the recording.
amishrockstar 3 months ago
can you record 4 channels with 2 channels coming from internal mic and the other 2 channels from an external input?
MrIsaacE 5 months ago
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I made a cover using the Zoom H2 check it out on my channel
ManupMedia507 6 months ago
I dont know about the mics but I DO like your drumming . Rock on dude!! i just got a Rode stereo video mic for my hdc sd700 camera. Seems quite good.
arfurlife 6 months ago
Zoom H2
ilikeamp 6 months ago
Forget Zoom H2, you are a great drummer!!! Regards from Brazil.
malcauskas7 7 months ago
WHERE DID YOU PUT THE MIC FOR RECORDING THE DRUMS????
xamoyDuarte 7 months ago
nice chops
datommaster 7 months ago
well, the bass drum was better in the H2, symbols were not soo long lasting
dickcheese663 7 months ago
what levels did you set the h2 to for
humansinunison 8 months ago
@UkeOfEarl Thanks man, yeah I realized the sound volume difference when I put the video up. When I record with the h2, I typically put it on a low recording level and then normalize it back up. But the camera i was using here always recorded pretty loud and harsh (for drums at least imo), so maybe that has something to do with it, Im not totally sure.
amishrockstar 8 months ago
so how to put sound and film together? how did you do that?
normandy100 8 months ago
@normandy100 I just recorded myself with my camera and mic. Put the recording over the video sound in windows movie maker, and move it until the sound matches the playing.
amishrockstar 8 months ago
your definitly a technician.. hehe im looking for a job to buy one when i travel to the united
apexpein39 10 months ago
your definitly a technicia n
apexpein39 10 months ago
thats it, I'm buying one! :P
and nice drumming bro! :D
JustMeAndMrGuitar 11 months ago
christ, i love your drumming and your drumset! i kinda forgot what this video was all about ! :)
JCBigCat 1 year ago
What program did you use to add the drumming recorded on the H2 to the camera recording? :)
TomBDrums 1 year ago
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poundpit 1 year ago
sounds really good with the H2!!
where do you place it at btw when you drum?
dlkhda 1 year ago
@dlkhda About 2 meters infront of the kit is probably best! :)
TomBDrums 1 year ago
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yamaha250javi 1 year ago
@TomBDrums Thanks man!
and what you think about the Zoom H1's?
dlkhda 1 year ago
@dlkhda Yeah ive heard thats ok but its not as good as the H2!
TomBDrums 1 year ago
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poundpit 1 year ago
wish i would have known bout this before i got all my recording equipment, Nice drumming and nice sound :)
Loser448 1 year ago
nice. i love your style your style.
Gregorious423 1 year ago
dang thats one sweet sound! where did you position the mic? are you in a sound controlled room?
dkucia11 1 year ago
@dkucia11 Hey thanks, the mic is just off screen to the left. Its probably 3 ft away from the hihat. That room is not sound controlled in the least haha, its a double wide trailer actually.
amishrockstar 1 year ago
wow i now deffinitalety wanna buy one:D
thnx for making this video. where did you put the mic??
col000in 1 year ago
@col000in No problem! The mic was right beside the camera to the left.
amishrockstar 1 year ago
@amishrockstar thnx for the info, next week i get one :)
drumXskate 1 year ago
Can this work if it's about 10 feet away from someone? Hows the audio?
WelschVideo 1 year ago
Just made my own stack just like you did in this vid, you were the inspiration. Found a 10" AAX O-zone used for $70 and bought a 12" Hand Hammered Mini China cause I was looking for more of a darker tone. GREAT sound to it! Thanks for the inspiration to stack these cymbals and buy an H2. I'll expect a check in the mail to help pay for these, thanks :)
GonzoDrummer27 1 year ago
@GonzoDrummer27 Thats sweet, man. I love stacks. I actually haven't used the ozone/mini china stack in a while. But another one thats really cool is putting a 13" hi hat top upside down inside of a 17" aaxtreme chinese. It has the tone of a china cymbal but the sustain is cut down a lot. Another one that I want to try is a 14" evolution chinese on top of an 18" evolution crash, like dave weckl. And the H2 is a great choice! imo
amishrockstar 1 year ago
is rooney on the drums
edmundtayhokim 1 year ago 4
Wow. That is a neat comparison. Nice chops too.
seemeel 1 year ago
@amishrockstar Sweet thanks! That little thing sounds really cool. I've been wanting to stack some cymbals, but you've just solved my problem for me.
GonzoDrummer27 1 year ago
Sick skills man. I'm in the market for an H2 right now, and your video really helped my decision. But I gotta know... what is that "stack" under that Paragon ride? I see an O-Zone splash, but what's underneath it?
GonzoDrummer27 1 year ago
@GonzoDrummer27 Hey thanks. The H2 in this video was stolen in February, so I was in the market for one too for a while haha. Bought a new one a few weeks ago. You're correct on the 10" o-zone splash, the bottom cymbal here was a 12" AAX mini chinese.
amishrockstar 1 year ago
nice
i wonna get one but i dont have the money :(
maybe ebay can help me : D
TokioHotelHasser07 1 year ago
I doo love my Zoom H2. The only real down side is if your doing a single instrument recording, and its not faced directly at your instrument or your amp, it picks it up more on one side than the other. I love its quality though.
PianoColinGuitar 1 year ago
@PianoColinGuitar there is a setting called mono mix, itll let you place the mic however you want without worrying if itll sound on one side or the other
Cesarser004 1 year ago
how you placed the audio in your video? how can i do a video with the audio of the zoom h2? (sorry for the grammar mistakes) :)
tommymarinese 1 year ago
thanks for posting this, is great to have a comparison of the actual sound of the recorder rather than a 10 min review (which it's great too) without the posibility to hear it for yourself.
great drumming also
MaghoxFr 1 year ago
your a fucking good drummer
Dittofication 1 year ago 15
great drumming dude
thedudeinthemoon 1 year ago
Where's the mic placed
Drummerkid74 2 years ago
@Drummerkid74 Just off screen to the left.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
Is it like diagonal or anything? How high is it? And if my bass drum is tilted away will it still pick it up good?
Drummerkid74 2 years ago
@Drummerkid74 Nah, it was upright, not diagonal at all. I had it on a mic stand. It was about 4-5 feet off the ground... not too high. It should still pick up fine if your bass drum is pointing away... on the ozone vid, the h2 was about 6-7 feet high pointing downwards and picked up the bass fine through the cymbal mix.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
Ok thanks!
Drummerkid74 2 years ago
@Russ88765 I think its best to keep it closer. Sound waves spread apart as they gain distance, so closer is better... at least thats how I think of it. In a treated room like yours, i dont think room noise would play too much into things and would be subtle at worst. Personally though, I would import the play along track into audacity, then use the h2 as an interface to record you playing directly with the track. Then you wouldnt have to worry about recording with pa speakers at all.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
I had try the combination in Movie Maker, but it works great !!!
stef100125 2 years ago
had tried *
stef100125 2 years ago
Great!
amishrockstar 2 years ago
Can the H2 be plugged into the mic input of the camcorder?
wickedexp 2 years ago
@wickedexp That I do not know from experience. I read in a forum that it DOES work as an external mic in a canon hv20 camcorder, but Im not sure if thats the case for every camcorder.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
How did you combine the movie and the sound from your Zoom H2, I've got him too now I tried it with movie maker, but it failed.
Nice drumming !!
stef100125 2 years ago
@stef100125 Thanks man. I do use movie maker. Just import the recording as a music file, and line it up with the video manually. How did it fail when you tried it?
amishrockstar 2 years ago
Well, I had used movie maker, but I hate it to search for the perfect combination.
stef100125 2 years ago
Sony Vegas works well.
zgates 2 years ago
might I say, you have some amazing chops sir. But a quick question......is the sound on the h2 determined by placement. I would love to place one on my drum rack but am afraid I wont get good sound with it being placed higher then the drums. In terms of placement where would you put it? Lower? To the front? To the Side? Furthur from the Kit?
Thanks!!!!
collisionforce 2 years ago
@collisionforce Thanks man. Well, id say the mix depends on placement, the sound quality will be good regardless, but the further away you put it, the more room noise there is. Here, the h2 was about 2 ft away to the left side of the kit. On my ozone ride video the h2 was on a boom stand 6 feet in the air pointing downwards directly behind me, and I liked the result. On my sextuplet fill video, the h2 was directly in front of the kit 3 feet out and 4 feet in the air. They all worked fine IMO.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
awsome drum skills! hey, was wondering, can the recorder be put on a tripod? or attached to anything? im hoping to look for an audio recorder to do film stuff but my camcorder doesnt support an audio input. wud u rercommend it to film a conversation between two acters? haha, and how far wud they have to be from the mic? thanks, any help will be great. thanks.
AlanChunkyMunky 2 years ago
@AlanChunkyMunky Yes it can! It has a threaded insert on the bottom that allows you to attach it to tripods with a threaded screw type mount. It does come with a "tripod" but its more like attachable feet. It also comes with a handle that you can screw into it that allows you to put it on a microphone stand. For film, it would work great but you would have to always manually sync the audio with the video, which I would/do find annoying. Then there's also the audio/video lag factor too.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
They wouldn't have to be super close to the mic, but like any microphone, the further you move it away the more the room noise comes into play. I wouldn't really worry about it though, unless you are recording the conversation from across the room haha.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
How much do these things cost? And where can I get them?
iwreckriots 2 years ago
@iwreckriots I think they're around $160 now. I got mine at forks drum closet. zzounds and ebay both have them also.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
very nice!
where did you place the H2?
BreakB97598 2 years ago
@BreakB97598 Thanks! I placed it just off the screen to the left. Around 0:50 I turn my head and look right at it.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
nice skills
sirnubenegra 2 years ago
sound good 5*****
chrisgwathney 2 years ago
Wow what a difference. very nice. thanks for the vid
jmyler 2 years ago
hey amishrockstar just wondering what program you used to make this video. im trying to make a video with backing track using my newly purchased H2??
senbobaggins 2 years ago
I just use windows movie maker.... its all i have. I've been doing some backing track videos recently also. What I've been doing is using the H2 as an interface to record audio directly into Audacity (a free program you can download online). You can import your backing track file into audacity, then record while you play along. Plug headphones into the "line out" port on the H2, and you can monitor what you're recording. Audacity will record you playing with the backing track.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
Then, you can save the file as .wav or mp3 (i normally do .wav), and import it into windows movie maker. Then all you have to do is sync the audio and video together and you're done.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
Oh definitely. At the very least it would have the same quality as the H2 i would imagine.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
yeah, well if you're just trying to get some ideas recorded, the H2 would do fine, but it DOES have less features than the h4n. I absolutely love the h2, but i think the h4n might be a little better geared toward group recordings, especially with the 2 external mic inputs on the bottom.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
Oh yeah man. You could set up around it and record 360. When I record my jazz combo, I normally just put it in front of the entire group, so it "hears" what the audience would hear.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
nice videos, i just bought a zoom mic.
btw you look like wayne rooney xD
cipolinho 2 years ago
haha thats a first. I normally wear a beard, and people say I look like Abraham Lincoln... or amish.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
Why does it sound dull and muffled with the H2? I was thinking about buying one of these but not so sure now. It seems like all the highs are missing...am I missing something?
jigaboodle 2 years ago
depends on what setting & the compression from when the video & audio was uploaded, that's why these sort of comparisons on Youtube are a waste of time.
the H2 has so many mic settings, quality & gain settings... this vid does not paint any sort of clear picture as to what you can do & the quality you will get with experimenting.
IMO the H2 is the best low priced portable recorder going, i take mine to every rehearsal & session.... and it records my drums fine once i get it set for the room.
highwooddrums 2 years ago
jigaboodle, i see what you're saying, but as highwood said the video file gets compressed by youtube during upload. The sound quality will suffer accordingly. The actual video file on my pc hard drive DOES have the high frequencies and the sounds are crisp crisp crisp. You watched the HQ version, right?
amishrockstar 2 years ago
Have you played the HQ Version?
Play it in HQ and it sounds amazing!
36hunters 2 years ago
Yes, I have heard the HQ and you're right it does sound better...actually I'm getting very close to buying the H4n... I'm interested in the Sony PCMM10 as well--unfortunately it is too new to find any feedback on it yet.
jigaboodle 2 years ago
good video and awesome playing
Rossco9992 2 years ago
sweeet, keep it up!
microphonejones 2 years ago
Where is the H2 on the video ? Back ? Front of the kit ?
Oh yeah, nice drumming ! :)
KISSDrumsCovers 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure it was to the left of the kit....the hihat side. It was set up right next to the camera, just off screen to the left. Thanks for the compliment!
amishrockstar 2 years ago
great video and playing !!!
ezbit14 2 years ago
you're a sick drummer thx for the vid
junskey 2 years ago 6
holy crap the Zoom H2 makes a huge difference. how would this sound if you were recording a guitar?
UnconciousHippie 2 years ago
It would record a solo guitar very well. Id say this thing is geared more towards solo instruments anyways. The sound quality has never disappointed me.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
yea, thats a good thing.
UnconciousHippie 2 years ago
nice video dude..love the Quality from the H2..i am thinkin of buyin the Zoom H4N for my band..it is just like a real demo sound
Btw nice drummin dude keep up the good work
buzz22345 2 years ago
Thanks for the kind words.
The zoom h2 has been absolutely amazing to work with. The recording quality is very honest. But I agree, the H4N would probably suit your band a little better with its features (4 track, external inputs, effects etc..). I mainly use the H2 for solo recording, and it just excels at it.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
i dont really know how to ask this question but let me try.......
is the Zoom H2 mic connected to the camera or you record the audio and picture separately at the same time?
anthony01311982 2 years ago
No, the H2 is not connected to the camera. I really wish there was a way to do that. I had to record the video and audio separately, then overlap them. It takes a little bit of time to get everything trimmed and lined up, but its a lot better than dealing with the mic on the camera. Thanks for the comment.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
Dang! that sounds hard to do..ima try that out!
thanx for the info bro God Bless.....
anthony01311982 2 years ago
your ride is a 22 Paragon by Sabian?
Luiginoy 2 years ago
Correct. I bought a new ride cymbal since then though. Its a 22" hhx legacy heavy ride now.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
the zoom H2 is an awesome little bit of kit, merging the audio to video is easy, oh and good drumming man, ('',)
dvdhouse 2 years ago
alright mate, how did you get the zoom h2 to be perfectly in sync with the camera's video but not using the camera's audio obs? and good drumming i like it :)
rjproud 2 years ago
pm sent
amishrockstar 2 years ago
what size are the two splash' ? Thanks
CIAsharp 2 years ago
the left is a 7" max splash, the right is 8" aax splash, i love those splashes
amishrockstar 2 years ago
Thanks man, i appreciate it. I'm planning to put up another video this week.
amishrockstar 2 years ago
Ｈ２ならもうちょっといい音で録れるきがするけど・・
wheki42 3 years ago
No comparaison with the zoom H2, Good tool & Good job ! : )
mcobigfun 3 years ago