So your point is that the verses which were at one time interpreted to be "pre-tribulational rapture" in nature were, in fact, already fulfilled in Christ's FIRST coming?
@MinisterQuietBuck Can you give me ur interpretation of GODs Word n Rev 9:4? I believe it shows that both believers & not will be here, because it says when the locusts are released at the 5th seal trump only hurt those men which have NOT the seal of GOD in their foreheads. To me its like Father is still giving those men time to repent of their sin & wicked ways. Even after 6th angel sounded vrs 20 & 21 says men repented not of thier sins, Peace2Ya
I remember the words of my Father my earthly Dad and we talked about the rapture he quoted this scripture and that was it back to work or whatever you were doing
I am not clear about the whole scripture but most of the scripture this pastor is talking about is true /can you guys hear the ones in the back ground ?
There are many reasons as to why people TEACH IN ERROR...WHICH'S HOW DIVISION UNFORTUNATELY BEGUN- AND THRIVES... We'll all SEE THEM one day...I'm not aiming this comment at anyone to say that their belief is wrong, I'm just making a statement because...on the flip side, TRUTH DIVIDES US TOO! No matter how it happens, we should just be READY! .....Are You?
The word "harpazo" is in the original Greek manuscripts. It means.....to seize, carry off by force, to seize on, claim for one's self eagerly, to snatch out or away.
If you don't believe in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture I don't believe you will be Raptured. Just don't take the mark of the Beast but you maybe beheaded.
@QuietBuck The righteous shall never be removed? You have taken that out of context. Enoch and Elijah were 'removed' and they were righteous. Christ will come back for His church and then later return with His church at His second coming. Take a close look at the Old Testament wedding traditions and you will gain some valuable insight.
@johnthreesixteen316 Wherew does it say that? Are you confusing his second coming with a fallacy nameed rapture? Please read John 17:15. There is no rapture.
@johnthreesixteen316 John 17:15, Jesus prays and asks the Father not to remove the Children of God but to protect them from evil. All those scriptures that people supossedly say it's the rapture, theyre reffering to the 2nd coming (Remember, is 2nd coming not 3rd coming!)
@MansoyHumilde777 The word harpazo is in the original Greek. The rapture isn't Christ's second coming because in the rapture Christ doesn't come back to the earth.
@MansoyHumilde777 Hello friend. Start by studying the Old Testament traditions regarding the Jewish wedding. There you will begin to get an understanding of the harpazo and when it will occur.
@nitdiver5 Hello friend. What if the 'last generation' starts in 1967 with the regaining of Jerusalem? Some biblical scholars believe a generation is 52 years.
@johnthreesixteen316: hi, first Jack Van Impe is not a scholar. He is selling snake oil of whatever flavor of the month is convenient. You won't find any prophecy in the Bible fulfilled by taking an average of numbers. No, we are on a parallel course to Daniel 9:2. Daniel had Jeremiah we have Zechariah 1:12. 1967+52 would put you in 2019 - how do you account for the Jubilee in 2017?
@johnthreesixteen316: Only May 14, 1948 when Israel declared independence fulfills Isaiah 66:8. When you have a confirmation like that it is scriptural.
@johnthreesixteen316: We can prove thru Rev 11:2 and Daniel 9:27 that the Trib starts the very day Palestine is recognized as a nation. That will happen sometime around May 2011!
@johnthreesixteen316: Was Noah removed? How about the 2 in the furnace? What about all those in the lion pit, were they removed? Sorry, but nothing is out of context, Isaiah 28:10. Please study word church, it was not in original scripture but an addition, derives from circus. Please define 1Thess 4:17 in Concordance and realize what returns, its not what you assume. I ask you to read Romans 13:6-7 and listen to the Word.
@QuietBuck Hello friend. The 'restrainer' must be removed before the antichrist steps in. Secondly, the Book of Revelation shows the church in Heaven at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb during the last 7 years.
@QuietBuck Are you saying that there are no Wicked people on this Earth today??? It's Amazing how you can find one verse and claim it means No Raptue. What do you think of this verse. Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
@dunhova: Please show me where I uttered that there were no wicked people on earth. For I never stated such a thing. In turn clearly you either have another agenda or did not read what I stated. Luke 21:36, yes worthy to escape, to be one put upon the mountains, to be put into the barn. Not removed, escaped is not removed.
@QuietBuck What does this verse mean to You. Isa 26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
Isa 26:21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
@dunhova: Exactly what it states, come & hide oneself during the bad things to come. The very thing He has shown me to do. For Eze 7 is coming upon USA and I am of 7:16. The blood you see now in the Gulf also ties to Rev 8:8-9. Next part of birth is the water breaking and mother opening her mouth. Do I wish there was a rapture? Sure, would make my job as a minister 1000% easier. But sadly there is not. Those who think there is one are highly unprepared (virgins w/ no oil) for what is to come.
@QuietBuck Hello friend. The believers in Christ will only be gone for about 7 years and then they come back with Christ. They aren't 'removed' permanently like the wicked will be.
@johnthreesixteen316: Sorry john but that is not scriptural but the doctrine of man. Please sit with scripture and watch all 5 parts. Did Noah leave for a short bit then come back when the flood was done? Does Father ever change?
@QuietBuck Enoch and Elijiah were taken. Besides, the 'harpazo' is the 'blessed hope'. In the second coming of Christ He comes back to the earth, but in the rapture He doesn't come back to the earth. We meet Him in the air.
@dunhova The Bible teaches NO pre-tribulation rapture,man!! Christians today base their beliefs on a novel(The Left Behind Series) and reject the plain word of Scripture.The anti-christ is going to war against the true believers of God who refuse to worship him(take his mark). The popular teaching that the anti-christ comes after the rapture is lie sold to christians by Satan and his agents on earth,the Jesuits!
@Lovepipizon The bible clearly shows Christ coming back for His church and then later returning with His church at His second coming. 2 events which have been confused as if they are one event. Take a close look at the Old Testament wedding traditions. This will give you more insight.
@johnthreesixteen316 We are wasting our time on Lovepipizon And Quietbuck. They Both Don't understand the Bible and. I understood that their was going to be a Rapture when I was 6 years old. Answer this if somebody has the Holy Sprite, How can they Deny The Word?? It just can't happen.
@dunhova: As a minister, I easily challenge you to a bible debate since you claim I do not know scripture. And since you claim to know scripture, may I why did you ignore Romans 13:6 when the WORD states to give tribute unto a minister of YHWH. Please show me where you followed the WORD since you are so filled as you claim others are not. And since you asked, how can you deny the Word?
@QuietBuck WELL! WHO made you a minister???It wasn't JESUS. Did you go to some kind of school that gave you a piece of paper?, now you think you are the Authority. How dare You take some verses out of John17 and claim to that means that there is no Rapture. Did you even read the whole Chapter?? John 17 is the Lords prayer He prays for his apostles and all the saints. The word (world) is not referring to Earth. LOL and you think you are a minister. What ever you are you are False or uneducated.
Mister, Jesus in John 17:15, prayed for the saints with Him, and for all that would believe because of the word they preached, including us in the present. Jesus was about to leave this world [John 17:11], they would remain in the world [planet earth]. Jesus prayed they would not be removed from this world, but be protected while they remained in the world. Is quoting John 3:16 taking a verse out of context? Know what you say before correcting others. God bless
@sidrojoe Well if he took believes out of the world, WHO WOULD TEACH NON_BELIEVERS????? Jesus keeps true-believers(Born-Again) in this world for His Glory.
@dunhova It's the borderline, lukewarm believers that are left behind and see the truth as well as the 144,000 sealed to preach the truth of Jesus. It is clear when read in complete context that the Rapture will happen BEFORE the biggest part of the a/c Tribulation.
@sidrojoe YOU should read the whole chapter !!!!Joh 17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
Joh 17:25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
@Lovepipizon Why Do You Hate the Rapture So much. Jesus said in Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
@dunhova Hate the rapture,you say? In fact I believe in the rapture possible more than you do!! BUT I'm not duped to believe in the rature you're talking about here.Up to this time you still haven't come out with just a single scriptural text to prove your pre-antichrist rapture 'theory'-- a non-scriptural theory/doctrine that someone wrote to make his millions of bucks.Luke 21:36 quoted up there by you doesn't support that claim. Find yourself time and study 2Thess.2:1-12 and let's get started
I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray NOT that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
@dunhova Amen friend! Some people don't realize how bad the tribulation is going to be. They also forget that many people will be converted to Christ during those last years. Some will be killed and some will survive to populate the earth during the 1000 year reign of Christ.
Actually the feast days give us clues about when the Son will come just not the year of his return. The Book of Daniel talks about 77weeks Shavuot is the Feast of weeks Israel is coming it 69yr as a state meaning it has seen 70 Shavuots. All I know is the more I see the more I believe we are the last Generation and Messiah is coming soon
@gnzoz No man knows the day or the hour is true, but......anyone on earth at the time of the 'abomination of desolation' which is the mid-point of the tribulation will have a literal 1260 day countdown to Christ's second coming.
@johnthreesixteen316 the RAPTURE IS A FALSE TEACHING,WHEN WILL BE THE TIME YOU'LL LEAST THINK CHRIST IS COMING??? THE ANSWER IS:WHEN YOU THINK HE'S ALREADY HERE!!THE 1ST 1 COMING CLAIMING TO BE JESUS,IS THE ANTI-CHRIST.AT THE 6TH SEAL,6TH TRUMPET,& THE 6TH VIAL,666 THE NUMBER OF MAN,THE CHRIST COMES AT 7TH SEAL,7TH TRUMPET,& 7TH VIAL,6 comes before 7.look up MARGRET MCDONALD.
@toonful Be sure to remember the words of your comment as you stand slack-jawed on the day that millions of people vanish and you are left behind to deal with the new system. Find and follow Jesus. There is still time. And don’t accept the ‘mark’.
Keep all pertinent scriptures in context. Don't just take one and dwell on it.
@hiyosilver100: Pro 10:30, Ez 13:20, Ps 37, Jn 17:15 clearly state no rapture. If one assumes a rapture from other passages, one must follow 2Tim 2:15 and Matt 5:20. Define 1Thess 4:17 in Concordance, Clouds = Pillar of Fire, not sky clouds. And Air = lower not higher air. There is a 2nd exodus, not a rapture. There is nothing new under the sun, Ecc 1:9. Keeping us from the hour of temptation is the same as Moses being lead thru desert or Noah on the ark. Only the tares leave, Matt 13:30.
@MinisterQuietBuck Sorry. You are clearly incorrect in your reading of the Scriptures. Please read ALL pertinent verses keeping ALL in context in your mind as you read. Moses was KEPT FROM the calamity. Lot was KEPT FROM the calamity. We are clearly told that the believing church will be KEPT FROM the horror which is to come.Rev3:10Bcause thou hast kept the word of my patience,I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation. And many more! G.B.
@hiyosilver100: Yes, kept from the calamity, that does not mean raptured, Ecc 1:9. You stated I am out of context, I ask you to read Isaiah 28:9-11. Context is a false item from churches. Next, have you forgotten Heb 13:17? Rom 13:6-7? 1Tim 5:1? I shared 8 passages, you shared your opinion. Which is grounded in truth? John 17:17. Take this week and study the topic.
Pro 10:30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.
this is sad,the whole world will follow(whore after)SATAN,THINKING HE'S CHRIST,BUT (ANTI)=INSTEAD OF,CHRIST stands in the holy place claiming to be Christ,& too buy or sell,you must worship the beast(satan,devil,serpent,son of perdition) ALL THE SAME PERSON,JUST DIFFERENT ROLLS OF THE DEVIL,WHO WAS THE father of CAIN.=KENITES ARE THE OFFSPRING OF CAIN,MATT.8:44(KJV) JESUS TELLS THEM WHO THEY ARE,& WHO THEIR father is.
@johnthreesixteen316 sorry too bust any bubbles,but their is NO SUCH THING AS A "RAPTURE",.READ EZEKIEL 13:18-20(KJV) God is AGAINST THOSE WHO TEACH HIS CHILDREN TO FLY(RAPTURE) TO SAVE THEIR SOULS,WHEN HIS OUT REACHED ARMS ARE THERE...BUT NO THEY SEW THE COVERING(PILLOW SLIPS) TO COVER HIS OUTREACHED SAVING ARMS.& IF GOD IS AGAINST IT,I'D BE MIGHTY SCARED TOO TEAH(RAPTURE).
@toonful Hello friend....."For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." 1 Thessalonians
@MinisterQuietBuck There is nothing NEW under the sun...now...why are you making New meaning to the Holy Bible? The Bible Clearly states Clouds and Air....gives NO Indication whatsoever there is another meaning.
@rureyeswideopen2: Open a Concordance and define 1Thess 4:17 for yourself. Clouds G3507, the cloud which led the Israelites in the wilderness (Pillar of Fire). Air G109, the air, particularly the lower and denser air as distinguished from the higher and rarer air. Yes, there is nothing new under the sun, Ecc 1:9. There has never been a rapture and in turn there never will be one. 1Tim 5:1.
@MinisterQuietBuck "My message and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, that your faith should not rest on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God." (The Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 2:4-5)
@rureyeswideopen2: Enoch nor Eliyah were raptured, please study scripture. Why do you refuse to listen to scripture but instead continue to find a way for the man made rapture story to be true? Only 1 passage is needed.
Pro 10:30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.
To not believe this passage is to not believe any of the Living Word. One cannot pick and choose.
@MinisterQuietBuck And that is your very problem. You get hung up on ONE scripture out of context. I rest my case.
Perhaps you will get hung up on these: 1Thes5:9For God hath not appointed us to wrath,but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Rev3:10Bcause thou hast kept the word of my patience,I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation.
@hiyosilver100: I have used nothing out of context. People use that excuse when they have no scriptural leg to stand on. Is 28:9-10 refutes your context claim. Pro 10:30, Ex 13:20, all Psalm 37, Jn 17:15 are clear. 1Thess 5:9, Rev 3:10 does not mention rapture. Have you not read Zech 13:9? Matt 13:30? Exodus? Genesis? Every time we have been lead through trials, not removed from them.
Ps 37:9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon YHWH, they shall inherit the earth.
@hiyosilver100: Do you need glasses? I never said such a thing. Typical Christian trying to throw stones when someone shows them their religion is bogus. Hence why Isaiah 45:20 states Christians have no knowledge. I spoke to you 3+ times on this topic and you have refused to read scripture. I has asked you to define things, but you refuse the dues of a minister. Moses and the flood huh, yea, ok.
@MinisterQuietBuck You certainly implied that with your last sentence. And because YOU spoke to me 3 times, I should change my correct views and personal discernment to match yours? I have read the Bible and I have found much verified information form people much wiser that you are (and wiser than I am). It may be that YOU need to open your mind and read ALL pertinent scriptures. Out here - last!
@hiyosilver100: I did not write scripture in turn it is not my sentence but belongs to Father. If it offended you, then you need to talk to Father being His words. Read scripture, it states to speak 3 times and if they will not hear, depart from them. Again, I did not write scripture so scripture is not my view, but Father's. Why are you so rebellious against YHWH? You know me personally to claim my intelligence? Is that not baring false witness, a commandment? Scripture lies to fit your lusts?
@MinisterQuietBuck Christ comes for those who LOVE, WORSHIP & GLORIFY Him. He comes in the Rapture FOR His REPENTANT Church. He comes as a "thief" as He and His Word has said over & over. When He comes at the 2nd Coming, it will be 1,260 days AFTER the antichrist sets up his image & "mark". You'll know when Christ is READY to come: all islands/mountains disappear, all water turns to blood, the "mark" & beheadings are world wide, massive earthquakes, all grass burned, NUCLEAR WAR
@toonful Here are a few for you to read: 1Thes5:9For God hath not appointed us to wrath,but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,Rev3:10Bcause thou hast kept the word of my patience,I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation.Also-Rev 2:10,4:1-11,5:1-14,22:12,Luke21:34-36,1Cor15:50-53,2Cor4:14,5:1-5,Eph4:30,5:32,Phil1:6,10,2:16,3:9-11;Col3:4;1Thess1:10,2:19-20,3:13,4:13-18,5:9-10,5:23;1Tim6:14-15;2Tim4:8Heb10:25,37,11:35;James1:12,1Peter1:5,7,13,5:4,2Peter1:11;1John 3:2-3;2John1:8
Rapture? Your god has not had a single success yet. He made perfect angels. He made perfect humans on a perfect earth. He had a perfect son. And ALL of them end up tortured and dead. He ends up with a few thousand buddies to lay around paradise with for ever while ALL the rest are destroyed or tortured for eternity. Has there ever been a bigger loser? Ever? And you are banking that THIS time, this one last time, God is gonna hit the ball out of the park for you? Good luck with that!
MAY 21, 2011 - WORLDWIDE EARTHQUAKE MAY 21, 2011 - THE RAPTURE MAY 21, 2011 - JUDGMENT DAY OCT, 21, 2011 - END OF WORLD 7 Billion - World Population (most will perish) 2 Billion - Christians (so called) - (most perish) 2 Hundred Million - Saved (Raptured) Rev 9 Left Behind - All members of Churches & local Congregations who refused GODS command come out of her my people Rev 17-18 05/21/11 to 10/21/11 - Judgment day - 153 Days (5 Months) of Hell on Earth - No Hope
@quitelywait Where did you get all these?Where in Scripture did you come by these dates? The Bible teaches NO pre-tribulation rapture,man!! Christians today base their beliefs on a novel(The Left Behind Series) and reject the plain word of Scripture.The anti-christ is going to war against the true believers of God who refuse to worship him(take his mark). The popular teaching that the anti-christ comes after the rapture is lie sold to christians by Satan and his agents on earth,the Jesuits!
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so what you're saying is that there will be a 'rapture' of the already dead and then the very few 'gleanings' who remain??
and if you survive up to that point (are a gleaning) then you will never get to visit this place that the lord claims to have prepared for us. your key to this place ultimately would be death. kind of like that sacred meso american soccer game where you get your head cut off for quetzalcoatl..
I'll tell you the most logical explanation you've ever heard in your life: At the Second Coming is the Rapture. All the righteous (dead and living) are taken into the sky. All the wicked are destroyed by the brightness of His coming, and they are "left dead". This begins the 1000 years. All the raptured saints reign with Christ in heaven for 1000 years. The earth is laid desolate, the "abussos", or "bottomless pit". Satan is left on this desolated earth all by himself.
@Lysimachus78 The rapture of the saints occurs before or during the beginning of the last 7 years. Why, because if the rapture occured at the Second Coming there wouldn't be any surviving Christians going forward to inhabit the earth during the 1000 year reign of Christ.
@Lysimachus78 Some people (many could be Jews) who become believers in Christ during the tribulation and manage to survive up to Christ's return will go forward into the 1000 year reign of Christ in their human bodies. Check out these Youtube videos.....it says it all: Chuck Missler: The Rapture Parts 1-12.
I have already watched those videos by Chuck Missler, plus many many more. All I'm asking is for a bible passage that indicates that the saints will be inhabiting the earth during the 1000 years. I've been searching for such a passage for many years, and still have not found it.
"Be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason..." 1Peter 3:15.
I find it sad that you can't give me at least one verse to chew on that says we will be here on the earth during the 1000 yrs. My Bible tells me that we will be raptured in the sky to dwell in the New Jerusalem for 1000 yrs, the earth will be desolate with satan bound on it, and the saints will return BACK to the earth to inherit it at the END of the 1000 yrs in the New Jerusalem.
@johnthreesixteen316 I think Lysimachus was asking for a simply ''Thus says the Word of God''.Can you come out with a Biblical passage to substantiate your claims??
@johnthreesixteen316 The Bible teaches NO pre-tribulation rapture,man!! Christians today base their beliefs on a novel(The Left Behind Series) and reject the plain word of Scripture.The anti-christ is going to war against the true believers of God who refuse to worship him(take his mark).The popular teaching that the anti-christ comes after the rapture is a lie sold to christians by Satan and his agents on earth,the Jesuits!All these pre-tribulation rapture fiction out there have no valid texts.
I'm not being funny with anyone, but the scripture says that we shall meet them in the air, so if the raptur is the other way areound, please explain to me what the scripture mean sin thessolonians. I heard that a rapture happens at the last trumpet.
Rv:19:7: Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
Rv:19:9: And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
Go against this man and you will be sorry!!!!!!!!!!! All he says is true! If you have sumthin inbetween ur ears (brain), ul c that everythin he says he takes out the bible. Blieve people, believe!
when would be the time you'd least think Christ is coming?when you thought He was already here,but that'll be satan playing Christ,..thus you have the "anti"christ so don't believe traditions of man,believe GOD'S word..read EZEKIEL 13:20 God says there,I am "againest"those who teach my children to"fly"to save their souls,you wanna believe man,or God?I think i'll take God!!!
You got it backwards. In the days of Noah the righteous was saved from judgment. When the rapture(latin) occur the righteous will be delivered from the judgment that is coming on the earth when He who is worthy to open up the seals to begin Gods wrath on the unbeliever.
@gogeta0064 Moses could not have been persecuted much if any at all! He was able to build a huge sailing vessel over a 100 year period! Received taunts and jeers and called a nut job, maybe. But hardly persecuted.
@gogeta0064 Thanks for the concern but insults do not bother me. 'They' do not know what they are talking about so lash out. Sometimes in a nice manner - sometimes not.
You are correct- but I allow no one to 'get to me'.
Compared to what some Christians suffer, the shallow insults are insignificant to me.
yeah our rapture will be when we get our heads chopped off. What makes u think we r going to have a free pass. The most perfect n righteous man ( Jesus ) obeyed to the point of death. If u read the history which is also in ur bible u can see how most of us believers were murdered. Do u think ur more righteous than Jesus or holier than all of them. Wake up n by the way history teaches that the futuristic teachings n rapture came from the catholic church n from a woman in a trance, go figure !
@notleftbehind You are greatly missing the point. No man is good enough on their own but many will be seen as good enough in the eyes of Jesus when the time comes. Learn about the rapture comparisons with the Jewish wedding festival. The answer to your question- What makes u think we r going to have a free pass? It's laid out clear in the Bible.
@hiyosilver100 I know about the jewish festivals and they can be put together and seem as if its a picture of the rapture but the reality is that . that is just an assumption that those stories and festivals have to do with a rapture.They are convincing but the truth is that it is all assumptions.
@notleftbehind Anything that our collective little minds put together put together as understanding such as God can only BE assumptions. Some assumptions are accurate, some not. With many ppl putting the pieces together and provide evidences (and excluding other evidences) for those pieces fitting is something to pay attention to.
@notleftbehind Also, check out the videos by Perry Stone, David Jeremiah and many others much more learned and expert than I ever could be. They provide the events and the reasons and evidence from the Bible, tradition and history.
@notleftbehind 1Thes5:9For God hath not appointed us to wrath,but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,Rev3:10Bcause thou hast kept the word of my patience,I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation.Also-Rev 2:10,4:1-11,5:1-14,22:12,Luke21:34-36,1Cor15:50-53,2Cor4:14,5:1-5,Eph4:30,5:32,Phil1:6,10,2:16,3:9-11;Col3:4;1Thess1:10,2:19-20,3:13,4:13-18,5:9-10,5:23;1Tim6:14-15;2Tim4:8Heb10:25,37,11:35;James1:12,1Peter1:5,7,13,5:4,2Peter1:11;1John 3:2-3;2John1:8
Sorry MannaBoBannaPeople but he is not. He kept repeating the same scripture over and over. This does not a doctrine make. I also do NOT believe in a "Rapture". The word does not even appear in the Bible. The point of the scripture he was quoting, was the element of surprise to the disobedient. Everything else he said was wrong. This is because most Christians don't understand what it means to be "Born again" We must research in the Bible by topic. In this case "Chrit's return."
It sounds less like He is dead and more like you feel dead. Don't worry, there is blessing and hope. God doesn't need you to believe in Him for Him to be real. But trust me, He believes in you. Answers are coming to you soon. I promise.
So your point is that the verses which were at one time interpreted to be "pre-tribulational rapture" in nature were, in fact, already fulfilled in Christ's FIRST coming?
cheagan 1 month ago
@MinisterQuietBuck Can you give me ur interpretation of GODs Word n Rev 9:4? I believe it shows that both believers & not will be here, because it says when the locusts are released at the 5th seal trump only hurt those men which have NOT the seal of GOD in their foreheads. To me its like Father is still giving those men time to repent of their sin & wicked ways. Even after 6th angel sounded vrs 20 & 21 says men repented not of thier sins, Peace2Ya
JimmyCarol100 2 months ago in playlist Rapture?
I remember the words of my Father my earthly Dad and we talked about the rapture he quoted this scripture and that was it back to work or whatever you were doing
I am not clear about the whole scripture but most of the scripture this pastor is talking about is true /can you guys hear the ones in the back ground ?
commonthread2 3 months ago
WELL,I SEE MOST EVERY1 HAS ALREADY TAKEN THE MARK OF THE BEAST,RAPTURE IS A VERY FALSE TEACHING.
toonful 6 months ago
AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH,THE FALLEN ANGELS CAME & SEDUCED THE DAUGHTERS OF ADAM,& GIANTS WERE BORN,NOAH'S FLOOD WAS TOO GET RID OF THE HYBRID GIANTS.
toonful 6 months ago
True or false? Well, watch this video (it's just 1 minute) and you'll know it's false.
"2011 Eschatolotardation"
aboyborninjune 9 months ago
Is it just me or does 00:50 sound like a fart
Celebrity729 9 months ago
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dunhova 11 months ago
Good stuff Kobus!
MrDavidt523 1 year ago
There are many reasons as to why people TEACH IN ERROR...WHICH'S HOW DIVISION UNFORTUNATELY BEGUN- AND THRIVES... We'll all SEE THEM one day...I'm not aiming this comment at anyone to say that their belief is wrong, I'm just making a statement because...on the flip side, TRUTH DIVIDES US TOO! No matter how it happens, we should just be READY! .....Are You?
goneruff22 1 year ago
@goneruff22 really what it is,is tradition of man,that wasn't taught until 1830,be careful.
toonful 5 months ago
The word "harpazo" is in the original Greek manuscripts. It means.....to seize, carry off by force, to seize on, claim for one's self eagerly, to snatch out or away.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
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MansoyHumilde777 1 year ago
If you don't believe in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture I don't believe you will be Raptured. Just don't take the mark of the Beast but you maybe beheaded.
dunhova 1 year ago
@dunhova: There is no rapture, period. It is a teaching that is barely 300 yrs old.
Proverbs 10:30
The righteous shall NEVER be removed:
but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.
QuietBuck 1 year ago
@QuietBuck The righteous shall never be removed? You have taken that out of context. Enoch and Elijah were 'removed' and they were righteous. Christ will come back for His church and then later return with His church at His second coming. Take a close look at the Old Testament wedding traditions and you will gain some valuable insight.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316 Wherew does it say that? Are you confusing his second coming with a fallacy nameed rapture? Please read John 17:15. There is no rapture.
MansoyHumilde777 1 year ago
@MansoyHumilde777 Hello friend. Where does it say what? What are you refering to?
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316 John 17:15, Jesus prays and asks the Father not to remove the Children of God but to protect them from evil. All those scriptures that people supossedly say it's the rapture, theyre reffering to the 2nd coming (Remember, is 2nd coming not 3rd coming!)
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dunhova 1 year ago
@MansoyHumilde777 The word harpazo is in the original Greek. The rapture isn't Christ's second coming because in the rapture Christ doesn't come back to the earth.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316 Yeah there will be a "harpazo" Yes that is the second coming, The Lords day! Not a pretribulational rapture!
MansoyHumilde777 1 year ago
@MansoyHumilde777 Hello friend. Start by studying the Old Testament traditions regarding the Jewish wedding. There you will begin to get an understanding of the harpazo and when it will occur.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316: The Harpazo will occur very very soon! You may like this:
/watch?v=NGdZmnM5jPQ
nitdiver5 1 year ago
@nitdiver5 Hello friend. What if the 'last generation' starts in 1967 with the regaining of Jerusalem? Some biblical scholars believe a generation is 52 years.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316: hi, first Jack Van Impe is not a scholar. He is selling snake oil of whatever flavor of the month is convenient. You won't find any prophecy in the Bible fulfilled by taking an average of numbers. No, we are on a parallel course to Daniel 9:2. Daniel had Jeremiah we have Zechariah 1:12. 1967+52 would put you in 2019 - how do you account for the Jubilee in 2017?
nitdiver5 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316: Only May 14, 1948 when Israel declared independence fulfills Isaiah 66:8. When you have a confirmation like that it is scriptural.
nitdiver5 1 year ago
@nitdiver5 Hello friend. I agree, but some are saying that Israel wasn't 'complete' without Jerusalem.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316: We can prove thru Rev 11:2 and Daniel 9:27 that the Trib starts the very day Palestine is recognized as a nation. That will happen sometime around May 2011!
/watch?v=NGdZmnM5jPQ
nitdiver5 1 year ago
@MansoyHumilde777: Wrong. The Rapture has to happen before the Tribulation or Christ died for nothing.
/watch?v=xFMcFMGqNhY
nitdiver5 1 year ago
@MansoyHumilde777 Hello friend. The Second Coming of Christ and the rapture of the church are 2 separate events.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316: Was Noah removed? How about the 2 in the furnace? What about all those in the lion pit, were they removed? Sorry, but nothing is out of context, Isaiah 28:10. Please study word church, it was not in original scripture but an addition, derives from circus. Please define 1Thess 4:17 in Concordance and realize what returns, its not what you assume. I ask you to read Romans 13:6-7 and listen to the Word.
QuietBuck 1 year ago
@QuietBuck Hello friend. The 'restrainer' must be removed before the antichrist steps in. Secondly, the Book of Revelation shows the church in Heaven at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb during the last 7 years.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@QuietBuck Are you saying that there are no Wicked people on this Earth today??? It's Amazing how you can find one verse and claim it means No Raptue. What do you think of this verse. Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
dunhova 1 year ago
@dunhova: Please show me where I uttered that there were no wicked people on earth. For I never stated such a thing. In turn clearly you either have another agenda or did not read what I stated. Luke 21:36, yes worthy to escape, to be one put upon the mountains, to be put into the barn. Not removed, escaped is not removed.
QuietBuck 1 year ago
@QuietBuck What does this verse mean to You. Isa 26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
Isa 26:21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
dunhova 1 year ago
@dunhova: Exactly what it states, come & hide oneself during the bad things to come. The very thing He has shown me to do. For Eze 7 is coming upon USA and I am of 7:16. The blood you see now in the Gulf also ties to Rev 8:8-9. Next part of birth is the water breaking and mother opening her mouth. Do I wish there was a rapture? Sure, would make my job as a minister 1000% easier. But sadly there is not. Those who think there is one are highly unprepared (virgins w/ no oil) for what is to come.
QuietBuck 1 year ago
@QuietBuck Hello friend. The believers in Christ will only be gone for about 7 years and then they come back with Christ. They aren't 'removed' permanently like the wicked will be.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316: Sorry john but that is not scriptural but the doctrine of man. Please sit with scripture and watch all 5 parts. Did Noah leave for a short bit then come back when the flood was done? Does Father ever change?
QuietBuck 1 year ago
@QuietBuck Enoch and Elijiah were taken. Besides, the 'harpazo' is the 'blessed hope'. In the second coming of Christ He comes back to the earth, but in the rapture He doesn't come back to the earth. We meet Him in the air.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@dunhova The Bible teaches NO pre-tribulation rapture,man!! Christians today base their beliefs on a novel(The Left Behind Series) and reject the plain word of Scripture.The anti-christ is going to war against the true believers of God who refuse to worship him(take his mark). The popular teaching that the anti-christ comes after the rapture is lie sold to christians by Satan and his agents on earth,the Jesuits!
Lovepipizon 1 year ago
@Lovepipizon The bible clearly shows Christ coming back for His church and then later returning with His church at His second coming. 2 events which have been confused as if they are one event. Take a close look at the Old Testament wedding traditions. This will give you more insight.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316 Any Old Testament texts/passages to start with?
Lovepipizon 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316 We are wasting our time on Lovepipizon And Quietbuck. They Both Don't understand the Bible and. I understood that their was going to be a Rapture when I was 6 years old. Answer this if somebody has the Holy Sprite, How can they Deny The Word?? It just can't happen.
dunhova 1 year ago
@dunhova: As a minister, I easily challenge you to a bible debate since you claim I do not know scripture. And since you claim to know scripture, may I why did you ignore Romans 13:6 when the WORD states to give tribute unto a minister of YHWH. Please show me where you followed the WORD since you are so filled as you claim others are not. And since you asked, how can you deny the Word?
QuietBuck 1 year ago
@QuietBuck WELL! WHO made you a minister???It wasn't JESUS. Did you go to some kind of school that gave you a piece of paper?, now you think you are the Authority. How dare You take some verses out of John17 and claim to that means that there is no Rapture. Did you even read the whole Chapter?? John 17 is the Lords prayer He prays for his apostles and all the saints. The word (world) is not referring to Earth. LOL and you think you are a minister. What ever you are you are False or uneducated.
dunhova 1 year ago
@dunhova
Mister, Jesus in John 17:15, prayed for the saints with Him, and for all that would believe because of the word they preached, including us in the present. Jesus was about to leave this world [John 17:11], they would remain in the world [planet earth]. Jesus prayed they would not be removed from this world, but be protected while they remained in the world. Is quoting John 3:16 taking a verse out of context? Know what you say before correcting others. God bless
sidrojoe 11 months ago
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@sidrojoe Well if he took believes out of the world, WHO WOULD TEACH NON_BELIEVERS????? Jesus keeps true-believers(Born-Again) in this world for His Glory.
dunhova 11 months ago
@dunhova It's the borderline, lukewarm believers that are left behind and see the truth as well as the 144,000 sealed to preach the truth of Jesus. It is clear when read in complete context that the Rapture will happen BEFORE the biggest part of the a/c Tribulation.
hiyosilver100 6 months ago
@sidrojoe YOU should read the whole chapter !!!!Joh 17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
Joh 17:25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
dunhova 10 months ago
@Lovepipizon Why Do You Hate the Rapture So much. Jesus said in Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
dunhova 1 year ago
@dunhova Hate the rapture,you say? In fact I believe in the rapture possible more than you do!! BUT I'm not duped to believe in the rature you're talking about here.Up to this time you still haven't come out with just a single scriptural text to prove your pre-antichrist rapture 'theory'-- a non-scriptural theory/doctrine that someone wrote to make his millions of bucks.Luke 21:36 quoted up there by you doesn't support that claim. Find yourself time and study 2Thess.2:1-12 and let's get started
Lovepipizon 1 year ago
@dunhova:
John 17:14-17
I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray NOT that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
Proverbs 10:30
The righteous shall never be removed:
but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.
QuietBuck 1 year ago
@QuietBuck
You are absolutely right, friend. We are told in the old Testament at least a dozen
times that the wicked will be removed and that the righteous will remain, the wicked
are still with us, so this is still future tense. Jesus confirmed this with His prayer in
John 17:14-17. In the days of Noah the wicked were removed, the righteous remained,
the days of Lot, the wicked were removed, the righteous remained. Jesus said it would
be the same when He returns. God bless
sidrojoe 11 months ago
@dunhova Amen friend! Some people don't realize how bad the tribulation is going to be. They also forget that many people will be converted to Christ during those last years. Some will be killed and some will survive to populate the earth during the 1000 year reign of Christ.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
Actually the feast days give us clues about when the Son will come just not the year of his return. The Book of Daniel talks about 77weeks Shavuot is the Feast of weeks Israel is coming it 69yr as a state meaning it has seen 70 Shavuots. All I know is the more I see the more I believe we are the last Generation and Messiah is coming soon
BrandonClapp74 1 year ago
response to "quitelywait": "no man knows the day or the hour!" so how are you setting dates?
gnzoz 1 year ago
@gnzoz No man knows the day or the hour is true, but......anyone on earth at the time of the 'abomination of desolation' which is the mid-point of the tribulation will have a literal 1260 day countdown to Christ's second coming.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
dont confuse the rapture with the 2nd coming!
gnzoz 10 months ago
@gnzoz Amen friend! The 2 are separate events.
johnthreesixteen316 10 months ago
@johnthreesixteen316 the RAPTURE IS A FALSE TEACHING,WHEN WILL BE THE TIME YOU'LL LEAST THINK CHRIST IS COMING??? THE ANSWER IS:WHEN YOU THINK HE'S ALREADY HERE!!THE 1ST 1 COMING CLAIMING TO BE JESUS,IS THE ANTI-CHRIST.AT THE 6TH SEAL,6TH TRUMPET,& THE 6TH VIAL,666 THE NUMBER OF MAN,THE CHRIST COMES AT 7TH SEAL,7TH TRUMPET,& 7TH VIAL,6 comes before 7.look up MARGRET MCDONALD.
toonful 6 months ago
@toonful Be sure to remember the words of your comment as you stand slack-jawed on the day that millions of people vanish and you are left behind to deal with the new system. Find and follow Jesus. There is still time. And don’t accept the ‘mark’.
Keep all pertinent scriptures in context. Don't just take one and dwell on it.
hiyosilver100 6 months ago
@hiyosilver100: Pro 10:30, Ez 13:20, Ps 37, Jn 17:15 clearly state no rapture. If one assumes a rapture from other passages, one must follow 2Tim 2:15 and Matt 5:20. Define 1Thess 4:17 in Concordance, Clouds = Pillar of Fire, not sky clouds. And Air = lower not higher air. There is a 2nd exodus, not a rapture. There is nothing new under the sun, Ecc 1:9. Keeping us from the hour of temptation is the same as Moses being lead thru desert or Noah on the ark. Only the tares leave, Matt 13:30.
MinisterQuietBuck 5 months ago in playlist Rapture?
@MinisterQuietBuck Sorry. You are clearly incorrect in your reading of the Scriptures. Please read ALL pertinent verses keeping ALL in context in your mind as you read. Moses was KEPT FROM the calamity. Lot was KEPT FROM the calamity. We are clearly told that the believing church will be KEPT FROM the horror which is to come.Rev3:10Bcause thou hast kept the word of my patience,I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation. And many more! G.B.
hiyosilver100 5 months ago
@hiyosilver100: Yes, kept from the calamity, that does not mean raptured, Ecc 1:9. You stated I am out of context, I ask you to read Isaiah 28:9-11. Context is a false item from churches. Next, have you forgotten Heb 13:17? Rom 13:6-7? 1Tim 5:1? I shared 8 passages, you shared your opinion. Which is grounded in truth? John 17:17. Take this week and study the topic.
Pro 10:30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.
Clear enough for a babe to understand.
MinisterQuietBuck 5 months ago
this is sad,the whole world will follow(whore after)SATAN,THINKING HE'S CHRIST,BUT (ANTI)=INSTEAD OF,CHRIST stands in the holy place claiming to be Christ,& too buy or sell,you must worship the beast(satan,devil,serpent,son of perdition) ALL THE SAME PERSON,JUST DIFFERENT ROLLS OF THE DEVIL,WHO WAS THE father of CAIN.=KENITES ARE THE OFFSPRING OF CAIN,MATT.8:44(KJV) JESUS TELLS THEM WHO THEY ARE,& WHO THEIR father is.
toonful 6 months ago
any1 wanting too talk bout this write my inbox,i'm not casting pearls before swine,just those who want the TRUE word of GOD.
toonful 6 months ago
@johnthreesixteen316 sorry too bust any bubbles,but their is NO SUCH THING AS A "RAPTURE",.READ EZEKIEL 13:18-20(KJV) God is AGAINST THOSE WHO TEACH HIS CHILDREN TO FLY(RAPTURE) TO SAVE THEIR SOULS,WHEN HIS OUT REACHED ARMS ARE THERE...BUT NO THEY SEW THE COVERING(PILLOW SLIPS) TO COVER HIS OUTREACHED SAVING ARMS.& IF GOD IS AGAINST IT,I'D BE MIGHTY SCARED TOO TEAH(RAPTURE).
toonful 6 months ago
@toonful Hello friend....."For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." 1 Thessalonians
johnthreesixteen316 6 months ago 3
@johnthreesixteen316: Open a Concordance and follow 2Tim 2:15. Study what "clouds" and "air" means in that passage. They are not what you assume.
MinisterQuietBuck 5 months ago in playlist Rapture?
@MinisterQuietBuck There is nothing NEW under the sun...now...why are you making New meaning to the Holy Bible? The Bible Clearly states Clouds and Air....gives NO Indication whatsoever there is another meaning.
rureyeswideopen2 5 months ago
@rureyeswideopen2: Open a Concordance and define 1Thess 4:17 for yourself. Clouds G3507, the cloud which led the Israelites in the wilderness (Pillar of Fire). Air G109, the air, particularly the lower and denser air as distinguished from the higher and rarer air. Yes, there is nothing new under the sun, Ecc 1:9. There has never been a rapture and in turn there never will be one. 1Tim 5:1.
MinisterQuietBuck 5 months ago
@MinisterQuietBuck "My message and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, that your faith should not rest on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God." (The Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 2:4-5)
rureyeswideopen2 5 months ago
@MinisterQuietBuck You forget Elijah? Enoch?
rureyeswideopen2 5 months ago
@rureyeswideopen2: Enoch nor Eliyah were raptured, please study scripture. Why do you refuse to listen to scripture but instead continue to find a way for the man made rapture story to be true? Only 1 passage is needed.
Pro 10:30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.
To not believe this passage is to not believe any of the Living Word. One cannot pick and choose.
MinisterQuietBuck 5 months ago
@MinisterQuietBuck And that is your very problem. You get hung up on ONE scripture out of context. I rest my case.
Perhaps you will get hung up on these: 1Thes5:9For God hath not appointed us to wrath,but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Rev3:10Bcause thou hast kept the word of my patience,I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation.
hiyosilver100 5 months ago
@hiyosilver100: I have used nothing out of context. People use that excuse when they have no scriptural leg to stand on. Is 28:9-10 refutes your context claim. Pro 10:30, Ex 13:20, all Psalm 37, Jn 17:15 are clear. 1Thess 5:9, Rev 3:10 does not mention rapture. Have you not read Zech 13:9? Matt 13:30? Exodus? Genesis? Every time we have been lead through trials, not removed from them.
Ps 37:9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon YHWH, they shall inherit the earth.
MinisterQuietBuck 5 months ago
@MinisterQuietBuck So YOU can proclaim that those that you don't agree with are "evildoers"!? Fail!
One example only is needed to refute your claim: MOSES was removed FROM the trial of the flood. Ppl, be careful of this member.
hiyosilver100 5 months ago
@hiyosilver100: Do you need glasses? I never said such a thing. Typical Christian trying to throw stones when someone shows them their religion is bogus. Hence why Isaiah 45:20 states Christians have no knowledge. I spoke to you 3+ times on this topic and you have refused to read scripture. I has asked you to define things, but you refuse the dues of a minister. Moses and the flood huh, yea, ok.
MinisterQuietBuck 5 months ago
@MinisterQuietBuck You certainly implied that with your last sentence. And because YOU spoke to me 3 times, I should change my correct views and personal discernment to match yours? I have read the Bible and I have found much verified information form people much wiser that you are (and wiser than I am). It may be that YOU need to open your mind and read ALL pertinent scriptures. Out here - last!
hiyosilver100 5 months ago
@hiyosilver100: I did not write scripture in turn it is not my sentence but belongs to Father. If it offended you, then you need to talk to Father being His words. Read scripture, it states to speak 3 times and if they will not hear, depart from them. Again, I did not write scripture so scripture is not my view, but Father's. Why are you so rebellious against YHWH? You know me personally to claim my intelligence? Is that not baring false witness, a commandment? Scripture lies to fit your lusts?
MinisterQuietBuck 5 months ago
@MinisterQuietBuck Christ comes for those who LOVE, WORSHIP & GLORIFY Him. He comes in the Rapture FOR His REPENTANT Church. He comes as a "thief" as He and His Word has said over & over. When He comes at the 2nd Coming, it will be 1,260 days AFTER the antichrist sets up his image & "mark". You'll know when Christ is READY to come: all islands/mountains disappear, all water turns to blood, the "mark" & beheadings are world wide, massive earthquakes, all grass burned, NUCLEAR WAR
JesusHoldMyHand1 5 months ago
@rureyeswideopen2: Enoch, Eliyah: /watch?v=oeUUmAhYl4Y
MinisterQuietBuck 5 months ago
@toonful Here are a few for you to read: 1Thes5:9For God hath not appointed us to wrath,but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,Rev3:10Bcause thou hast kept the word of my patience,I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation.Also-Rev 2:10,4:1-11,5:1-14,22:12,Luke21:34-36,1Cor15:50-53,2Cor4:14,5:1-5,Eph4:30,5:32,Phil1:6,10,2:16,3:9-11;Col3:4;1Thess1:10,2:19-20,3:13,4:13-18,5:9-10,5:23;1Tim6:14-15;2Tim4:8Heb10:25,37,11:35;James1:12,1Peter1:5,7,13,5:4,2Peter1:11;1John 3:2-3;2John1:8
hiyosilver100 6 months ago
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quitelywait 2 years ago
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"OCT, 21, 2011 - END OF WORLD"
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Imaginefree69 2 years ago
WAKE UP SNAP OUT OF IT
NO MAN NOT EVEN THE ANGELS
SO ONLY A DEVIL COULD OF TOLD YOU THIS LIE
READ THE SCRIPTURES
Matthew 24:36
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Matthew 24:35-37
530HELP 1 year ago
@quitelywait Where did you get all these?Where in Scripture did you come by these dates? The Bible teaches NO pre-tribulation rapture,man!! Christians today base their beliefs on a novel(The Left Behind Series) and reject the plain word of Scripture.The anti-christ is going to war against the true believers of God who refuse to worship him(take his mark). The popular teaching that the anti-christ comes after the rapture is lie sold to christians by Satan and his agents on earth,the Jesuits!
Lovepipizon 1 year ago
quitelywait 2 years ago
so what you're saying is that there will be a 'rapture' of the already dead and then the very few 'gleanings' who remain??
and if you survive up to that point (are a gleaning) then you will never get to visit this place that the lord claims to have prepared for us. your key to this place ultimately would be death. kind of like that sacred meso american soccer game where you get your head cut off for quetzalcoatl..
negromonicom480i 2 years ago
@negromonicom480i,
I'll tell you the most logical explanation you've ever heard in your life: At the Second Coming is the Rapture. All the righteous (dead and living) are taken into the sky. All the wicked are destroyed by the brightness of His coming, and they are "left dead". This begins the 1000 years. All the raptured saints reign with Christ in heaven for 1000 years. The earth is laid desolate, the "abussos", or "bottomless pit". Satan is left on this desolated earth all by himself.
Lysimachus78 2 years ago
@Lysimachus78 The rapture of the saints occurs before or during the beginning of the last 7 years. Why, because if the rapture occured at the Second Coming there wouldn't be any surviving Christians going forward to inhabit the earth during the 1000 year reign of Christ.
johnthreesixteen316 2 years ago
@johnthreesixteen316
Where in the Bible does it say that the saints will inhabit the earth during the 1000 years?
Lysimachus78 2 years ago
@Lysimachus78 Some people (many could be Jews) who become believers in Christ during the tribulation and manage to survive up to Christ's return will go forward into the 1000 year reign of Christ in their human bodies. Check out these Youtube videos.....it says it all: Chuck Missler: The Rapture Parts 1-12.
johnthreesixteen316 2 years ago
@johnthreesixteen316
I have already watched those videos by Chuck Missler, plus many many more. All I'm asking is for a bible passage that indicates that the saints will be inhabiting the earth during the 1000 years. I've been searching for such a passage for many years, and still have not found it.
Lysimachus78 2 years ago
@Lysimachus78 Right in front of your eyes. Maybe your Bible is missing some pages. Check the page numbers just in case.
johnthreesixteen316 2 years ago
@johnthreesixteen
"Be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason..." 1Peter 3:15.
I find it sad that you can't give me at least one verse to chew on that says we will be here on the earth during the 1000 yrs. My Bible tells me that we will be raptured in the sky to dwell in the New Jerusalem for 1000 yrs, the earth will be desolate with satan bound on it, and the saints will return BACK to the earth to inherit it at the END of the 1000 yrs in the New Jerusalem.
Lysimachus78 2 years ago
@johnthreesixteen316 I think Lysimachus was asking for a simply ''Thus says the Word of God''.Can you come out with a Biblical passage to substantiate your claims??
Lovepipizon 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316
Rapture will be here soon
mrfellowship 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316 The Bible teaches NO pre-tribulation rapture,man!! Christians today base their beliefs on a novel(The Left Behind Series) and reject the plain word of Scripture.The anti-christ is going to war against the true believers of God who refuse to worship him(take his mark).The popular teaching that the anti-christ comes after the rapture is a lie sold to christians by Satan and his agents on earth,the Jesuits!All these pre-tribulation rapture fiction out there have no valid texts.
Lovepipizon 1 year ago
@Lysimachus78 Great,man.Logical!! Let them know the Truth!! Sound the trumpet!!!
Lovepipizon 1 year ago
I'm not being funny with anyone, but the scripture says that we shall meet them in the air, so if the raptur is the other way areound, please explain to me what the scripture mean sin thessolonians. I heard that a rapture happens at the last trumpet.
Rep2keep33 2 years ago
air is only 30,000 feet in the sky so people would see 1000000 of people in the sky for at least 3 1/2 years how stupid is the rapture lie
beingther 2 years ago
Rv:19:7: Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
Rv:19:9: And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
jblcva 2 years ago
Go against this man and you will be sorry!!!!!!!!!!! All he says is true! If you have sumthin inbetween ur ears (brain), ul c that everythin he says he takes out the bible. Blieve people, believe!
emildorgeloh 2 years ago 2
A real god would throw braindead people in the trash.
If god is a super genius... you folks are exactly what a genius does not want
DoctorE0 3 years ago
You people are BRAINDEAD!!!
DoctorE0 3 years ago
Actually, if you are not a saved, born again child of God, then, the Bible says, YOU are the one who is braindead!
Afrikitty 3 years ago
when would be the time you'd least think Christ is coming?when you thought He was already here,but that'll be satan playing Christ,..thus you have the "anti"christ so don't believe traditions of man,believe GOD'S word..read EZEKIEL 13:20 God says there,I am "againest"those who teach my children to"fly"to save their souls,you wanna believe man,or God?I think i'll take God!!!
toonful 3 years ago
You got it backwards. In the days of Noah the righteous was saved from judgment. When the rapture(latin) occur the righteous will be delivered from the judgment that is coming on the earth when He who is worthy to open up the seals to begin Gods wrath on the unbeliever.
chariotride 3 years ago
and that's where you got it wrong...
Noah and his family still went through persecution (thlipsis) from the unbelievers, but they were protected from the wrath(orge).
Tribulation = thlipsis
wrath = orge
tribulation is not wrath.
gogeta0064 3 years ago
@gogeta0064 Moses could not have been persecuted much if any at all! He was able to build a huge sailing vessel over a 100 year period! Received taunts and jeers and called a nut job, maybe. But hardly persecuted.
hiyosilver100 5 months ago
@hiyo if we are insulted for doing the will of God, that is the very definition of persecution
gogeta0064 5 months ago
@gogeta0064 No matter the reason for "insult'. No matter the subject. We need to always consider the source. The trolls cannot insult me.
hiyosilver100 5 months ago
@hiyo be the bigger man. be the better man. Don't let it get to you.
brush it off and ignore it since you know he's only trying to rile you up, & make you angry.
remember, a troll is only insulting if you let what he says get to you.
gogeta0064 5 months ago
@gogeta0064 Thanks for the concern but insults do not bother me. 'They' do not know what they are talking about so lash out. Sometimes in a nice manner - sometimes not.
You are correct- but I allow no one to 'get to me'.
Compared to what some Christians suffer, the shallow insults are insignificant to me.
hiyosilver100 5 months ago
yeah our rapture will be when we get our heads chopped off. What makes u think we r going to have a free pass. The most perfect n righteous man ( Jesus ) obeyed to the point of death. If u read the history which is also in ur bible u can see how most of us believers were murdered. Do u think ur more righteous than Jesus or holier than all of them. Wake up n by the way history teaches that the futuristic teachings n rapture came from the catholic church n from a woman in a trance, go figure !
notleftbehind 2 years ago 2
lol the meek shall inharet the earth i guss them that are raptured are not going to
beingther 2 years ago
@notleftbehind You are greatly missing the point. No man is good enough on their own but many will be seen as good enough in the eyes of Jesus when the time comes. Learn about the rapture comparisons with the Jewish wedding festival. The answer to your question- What makes u think we r going to have a free pass? It's laid out clear in the Bible.
hiyosilver100 5 months ago
@hiyosilver100 I know about the jewish festivals and they can be put together and seem as if its a picture of the rapture but the reality is that . that is just an assumption that those stories and festivals have to do with a rapture.They are convincing but the truth is that it is all assumptions.
notleftbehind 5 months ago
@notleftbehind Anything that our collective little minds put together put together as understanding such as God can only BE assumptions. Some assumptions are accurate, some not. With many ppl putting the pieces together and provide evidences (and excluding other evidences) for those pieces fitting is something to pay attention to.
hiyosilver100 5 months ago
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@notleftbehind Also, check out the videos by Perry Stone, David Jeremiah and many others much more learned and expert than I ever could be. They provide the events and the reasons and evidence from the Bible, tradition and history.
hiyosilver100 5 months ago
@hiyosilver100 If its so clear please give me the scriptures that back up your claim.
notleftbehind 5 months ago
@notleftbehind 1Thes5:9For God hath not appointed us to wrath,but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,Rev3:10Bcause thou hast kept the word of my patience,I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation.Also-Rev 2:10,4:1-11,5:1-14,22:12,Luke21:34-36,1Cor15:50-53,2Cor4:14,5:1-5,Eph4:30,5:32,Phil1:6,10,2:16,3:9-11;Col3:4;1Thess1:10,2:19-20,3:13,4:13-18,5:9-10,5:23;1Tim6:14-15;2Tim4:8Heb10:25,37,11:35;James1:12,1Peter1:5,7,13,5:4,2Peter1:11;1John 3:2-3;2John1:8
hiyosilver100 5 months ago
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hiyosilver100 5 months ago
Sorry MannaBoBannaPeople but he is not. He kept repeating the same scripture over and over. This does not a doctrine make. I also do NOT believe in a "Rapture". The word does not even appear in the Bible. The point of the scripture he was quoting, was the element of surprise to the disobedient. Everything else he said was wrong. This is because most Christians don't understand what it means to be "Born again" We must research in the Bible by topic. In this case "Chrit's return."
GarryF08 3 years ago
You are on target.
MannaBoBannaPeople 3 years ago
God is dead.
Moredread25 3 years ago
Moredread25,
It sounds less like He is dead and more like you feel dead. Don't worry, there is blessing and hope. God doesn't need you to believe in Him for Him to be real. But trust me, He believes in you. Answers are coming to you soon. I promise.
Be blessed.
bethyprincess 3 years ago 2