Send me any of your flashback arrestor's for test. I would do a video promoting your successful flashback arrestor if it works near my professional welding machine under pressure with a 6 foot hose coming off the end of your flashback arrestor. I am on the same page that you are on working on the safest flashback arrestor in the world to promote the use of HHO gas worldwide in every application.
In most of your demonstrations 95% your demonstrations you are showing your flashback arrestor at the end all of your HHO hose. The most important test is putting your flashback arrestor next to your HHO machine with a 6 foot hose and light the end of the hose. This demonstration would prove your flashback withstands kickback pressure generated in the hose when the flashback is generated.
This demonstration will push your flashback arrestor to the limit with kickback pressure to prove it will work near the machine as well as away from the machine at the end of the hose.
Using my professional welding machine I am purposely demonstrating what happens when the flashback arrestor fails during many different test under pressure. The machine is pressurized and then the valve is iimmediately opened creating a rush of HHO gas down the hose then igniting the gas testing which flashback arrestor works or fails near the machine.
We have a pressure gauge attached to the cell, as well. I have personally pressurized the cell to 10 PSI and ran flashback tests in the manner you are referring. All were successful. Also, we have units out on independent trials that have taken much abuse at a constant 5PSI and 12LPM. The smaller Hammer EX seems to fail if filled with too much moisture, but this can be remedied by vacuuming the moisture out with a vacuum cleaner for 10 minutes. The SledgeHammer has no moisture issue.
All of your videos it seems to be that you are demonstrating your flashback arrestor's at the end of the hose. I would personally like to see the demonstration the flashback arrestor at the end of the machine with out a bubbler just only the flashback between the machine and the flashback danger when ignited. Seeing is believing in video.
No problem, I will make a video just for you. You ask me to attach the flashback arrestor without a bubbler? You are still doing your testing with a bubbler between the cell and the output line. A bubbler is necessary for the proper operation of HHO devices currently on the market. You don't want excessive moisture in your FBA. In my case, the pre-bubbler you see at the top left of the screen is also the reservoir/gas water seperator. Your system also needs this. Please, no double standards.
Your comment regarding double talking is not true. My professional welding machine to Chambers is not designed for a safety device. The second chamber is made for an alternate gas to mix with the hydrogen gas to cool a flame to do welding. As you seen in my demonstration even using water in the second chamber did not save the cell from exploding. HHO gas rushing through bubbles lined up transfer the flame threw the bubbler to the source.
I see. Don't get me wrong. I was not accusing you. If your system is truely a dry cell configuration, then you need a reservoir for the electrolyte. Not only that, you need the gas and electrolyte that bubbles from your cell to be seperated(unless your cell ouputs only dry gas) This is generally the gas/water seperater and operates as a pre-bubbler. My cell outputs a mix of electrolyte and HHO gas. The flashback cannot make it into the cell with this configuration. It stops at the reservoir.
You are right. I didn't think of that test with this video. But we have tested both the Hammer EX and SledgeHammer with 20 feet of 3/8 ID hose attached to the output line, repeatedly with success. I will see if I can put up a demo showing this.
With the flame tests we are currently doing(home heating, torches, etc), a long output hose from the flashback arrestor output is just too inconvenient. I don't like a bunch of hose to have to contend with.
I had my cell on a timer and it kicked off without me knowing and my cells stopped producing gas, the torch flashed back and your hammer ex stopped it dead. If this new sledgehammer works as well as your hammer ex then you should sell lots. Thanks for the awsome products. Talk to ya soon! Keep pumping out those saftey devices!!
I am excited to push this arrestor to it's limits. So far, 12LPM doesn't seem to phase it. And with the flow restriction problem virtually solved, you get nearly 100% the same flow out the end that you do directly out of the bubbler. This means more heat and flame intensity. Wait till you see my new heat exchanger for home heating. When I tweak the fuel to air ratio, it really cooks! Also, I can sustain 6 flames with 3/32 orfices simultaneously with only 4LPM!
very nice. maybe just a suggestion... you could put a pressure gage on the bubbler to show how little or how much it does restrict at the different flow rates? but great work! this is something that i would buy if i had the money... buy the way i like the web page and you have very good prices. Keep it up.
It's funny, we have a pressure gauge attached directly to the cell...I just didnt think to put it in the picture. During all our current tests it registers no pressure. I will try to include that in future vids to help dispell doubt.
any time! look forward to new video's! 15 l/m with now pressure difference?? that is awesome! even at 10 l/m that is still awesome! I am not surprised you had a pressure gage. you seem very thurow. Good luck with sales. It is something that we all need.
Nice, what does the other little one you guys sell flow.
Will it stop working with to little flow, like if you shut the cell down and still keep .lighting the output. Does it stop a flashback in a tube full of hho with no flow to it, just a tub your arrestor and more tub all filled up with hho but not flowing.
I'm not hasseling you , I would like to buy the little one, looks like it works perfect.
The smaller Hammer EX has no minimum "cracking" pressure. In other words, if you are inputting 500mL you'll get 500mL, only slower. It's current flow restriction rate is approx 30-35% overall. Many commercial flashback arrestors require 5PSI just to begin flow. The Hammer EX doesn't.
Yes, It will stop a flashback even when you have no more backpressure. We have flashed back the Hammer Ex with 20 feet of 3/8ID hose on the output line many times.
It will work just as well whether there is backpressure or not. This means it will work even when you shut the cell down and ignite the remaining gas in the hose. Say for instance you have a torch going, and you shut down the cell and allow the backpressure to bleed off till the torch can't stay lit anymore. It works fine in this scenario just as well as a pressurized flashback.
Yep , this is one bad mother of an arrestor, blow in it and it dont feel like it will work, almost like a trick from your friend that made you this awsome arrestor but aint around the first time you try it. But some how it works and I tried with a torch tip that was too big , it would blow my clear line off, but stoped the flash every time, and I had to try just a few more time to make sure :)
So when can I put one on my lawn mower? or car?
MrMateo323 9 months ago
So when can I put one on my lawn mower?
MrMateo323 9 months ago
love the vids hate the bloody music in the background - can you lose it it's torture
markoconroy 2 years ago
great flashback arrestor !
Well done guys !
Regards, Stefan.
overunitydotcom 3 years ago
Send me any of your flashback arrestor's for test. I would do a video promoting your successful flashback arrestor if it works near my professional welding machine under pressure with a 6 foot hose coming off the end of your flashback arrestor. I am on the same page that you are on working on the safest flashback arrestor in the world to promote the use of HHO gas worldwide in every application.
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Peter
pjckac1 3 years ago
To: InstallGuys
In most of your demonstrations 95% your demonstrations you are showing your flashback arrestor at the end all of your HHO hose. The most important test is putting your flashback arrestor next to your HHO machine with a 6 foot hose and light the end of the hose. This demonstration would prove your flashback withstands kickback pressure generated in the hose when the flashback is generated.
pjckac1 3 years ago
This demonstration will push your flashback arrestor to the limit with kickback pressure to prove it will work near the machine as well as away from the machine at the end of the hose.
pjckac1 3 years ago
Using my professional welding machine I am purposely demonstrating what happens when the flashback arrestor fails during many different test under pressure. The machine is pressurized and then the valve is iimmediately opened creating a rush of HHO gas down the hose then igniting the gas testing which flashback arrestor works or fails near the machine.
pjckac1 3 years ago
We have a pressure gauge attached to the cell, as well. I have personally pressurized the cell to 10 PSI and ran flashback tests in the manner you are referring. All were successful. Also, we have units out on independent trials that have taken much abuse at a constant 5PSI and 12LPM. The smaller Hammer EX seems to fail if filled with too much moisture, but this can be remedied by vacuuming the moisture out with a vacuum cleaner for 10 minutes. The SledgeHammer has no moisture issue.
Steve
InstallGuys 3 years ago
All of your videos it seems to be that you are demonstrating your flashback arrestor's at the end of the hose. I would personally like to see the demonstration the flashback arrestor at the end of the machine with out a bubbler just only the flashback between the machine and the flashback danger when ignited. Seeing is believing in video.
pjckac1 3 years ago
No problem, I will make a video just for you. You ask me to attach the flashback arrestor without a bubbler? You are still doing your testing with a bubbler between the cell and the output line. A bubbler is necessary for the proper operation of HHO devices currently on the market. You don't want excessive moisture in your FBA. In my case, the pre-bubbler you see at the top left of the screen is also the reservoir/gas water seperator. Your system also needs this. Please, no double standards.
InstallGuys 3 years ago
To: InstallGuys
Your comment regarding double talking is not true. My professional welding machine to Chambers is not designed for a safety device. The second chamber is made for an alternate gas to mix with the hydrogen gas to cool a flame to do welding. As you seen in my demonstration even using water in the second chamber did not save the cell from exploding. HHO gas rushing through bubbles lined up transfer the flame threw the bubbler to the source.
pjckac1 3 years ago
I see. Don't get me wrong. I was not accusing you. If your system is truely a dry cell configuration, then you need a reservoir for the electrolyte. Not only that, you need the gas and electrolyte that bubbles from your cell to be seperated(unless your cell ouputs only dry gas) This is generally the gas/water seperater and operates as a pre-bubbler. My cell outputs a mix of electrolyte and HHO gas. The flashback cannot make it into the cell with this configuration. It stops at the reservoir.
InstallGuys 3 years ago
You are right. I didn't think of that test with this video. But we have tested both the Hammer EX and SledgeHammer with 20 feet of 3/8 ID hose attached to the output line, repeatedly with success. I will see if I can put up a demo showing this.
With the flame tests we are currently doing(home heating, torches, etc), a long output hose from the flashback arrestor output is just too inconvenient. I don't like a bunch of hose to have to contend with.
Steve
InstallGuys 3 years ago
I had my cell on a timer and it kicked off without me knowing and my cells stopped producing gas, the torch flashed back and your hammer ex stopped it dead. If this new sledgehammer works as well as your hammer ex then you should sell lots. Thanks for the awsome products. Talk to ya soon! Keep pumping out those saftey devices!!
hhoball 3 years ago
Thanks HHOBALL!
I am excited to push this arrestor to it's limits. So far, 12LPM doesn't seem to phase it. And with the flow restriction problem virtually solved, you get nearly 100% the same flow out the end that you do directly out of the bubbler. This means more heat and flame intensity. Wait till you see my new heat exchanger for home heating. When I tweak the fuel to air ratio, it really cooks! Also, I can sustain 6 flames with 3/32 orfices simultaneously with only 4LPM!
Steve
InstallGuys 3 years ago
very nice. maybe just a suggestion... you could put a pressure gage on the bubbler to show how little or how much it does restrict at the different flow rates? but great work! this is something that i would buy if i had the money... buy the way i like the web page and you have very good prices. Keep it up.
David7900 3 years ago
It's funny, we have a pressure gauge attached directly to the cell...I just didnt think to put it in the picture. During all our current tests it registers no pressure. I will try to include that in future vids to help dispell doubt.
Thanks for the comment and kind words!
Steve
InstallGuys 3 years ago
any time! look forward to new video's! 15 l/m with now pressure difference?? that is awesome! even at 10 l/m that is still awesome! I am not surprised you had a pressure gage. you seem very thurow. Good luck with sales. It is something that we all need.
Dave
David7900 3 years ago
Nice, what does the other little one you guys sell flow.
Will it stop working with to little flow, like if you shut the cell down and still keep .lighting the output. Does it stop a flashback in a tube full of hho with no flow to it, just a tub your arrestor and more tub all filled up with hho but not flowing.
I'm not hasseling you , I would like to buy the little one, looks like it works perfect.
tjgame2 3 years ago
The smaller Hammer EX has no minimum "cracking" pressure. In other words, if you are inputting 500mL you'll get 500mL, only slower. It's current flow restriction rate is approx 30-35% overall. Many commercial flashback arrestors require 5PSI just to begin flow. The Hammer EX doesn't.
Yes, It will stop a flashback even when you have no more backpressure. We have flashed back the Hammer Ex with 20 feet of 3/8ID hose on the output line many times.
Thanks for the comment!
Steve
InstallGuys 3 years ago
No , thank you, I'm ordering one, the SledgeHammer , you say the big one will still work with no flow.
This should be a goverment sponsered hand out.
tjgame2 3 years ago
It will work just as well whether there is backpressure or not. This means it will work even when you shut the cell down and ignite the remaining gas in the hose. Say for instance you have a torch going, and you shut down the cell and allow the backpressure to bleed off till the torch can't stay lit anymore. It works fine in this scenario just as well as a pressurized flashback.
Steve
InstallGuys 3 years ago
You dont sell the sledge on ebay??? Can
I use paypal at your site?
tjgame2 3 years ago
Yep , this is one bad mother of an arrestor, blow in it and it dont feel like it will work, almost like a trick from your friend that made you this awsome arrestor but aint around the first time you try it. But some how it works and I tried with a torch tip that was too big , it would blow my clear line off, but stoped the flash every time, and I had to try just a few more time to make sure :)
tjgame2 3 years ago