I agree with munguntulga, this is a fight not a contest to see who can lift the most planets in which case sure I'd give it to supes, however both are very strong and there fore the tie breaker comes to skill which as munguntulga said goku is an expert martial artist it would be the same as having a brawler fight a black belt
Seriously superman vs goku? Obviously Goku, all these fanboys talk about their comics but they dont realize that it takes place in alternate realities not mainstream which makes them non-canon. Even with superman's full power they cant beat goku. Lets take away all their superpowers cause it gets us nowhere arguing about made up abilities. Goku an expert martial artist vs superman who has no fighting skills at all just fist first and get knocked over like in every JL episode.
@itsgangstabob superman is overpowered because of the so call feats i here dc hans state all the time and hee has no equal according to dc.but dbz has a lot of super strong characters.and they often die. when was the last time superman actaully died and not came back in a gay way.plus if power level of 1600 can destroy a planet want can a powerlevel of 800,000,000 do during the andriod saga. plus who in thier right mind wants to blow up a galaxy.
@itsgangstabob now your bringing marvel into this. we all know what they can do but they never really do that like when silver surfer fight thanoss or thor he gets beat but he could do that.but i`m just sayin the ki thing is what makes goku win .if superman had ki then yess he might have a chance. bu in the end goku is a accomplished fighter who has limtitaions and competion in his universe while superma is a over written set character thats always the strongest.
@itsgangstabob read manga not watch anime dub and you would see omega shenron was supreme power in the dbz u and sssj4 gojeta was vastly stronger than him. and again with the ki think supes has no ki so he is set downeed by the fact that if goku lunches and attack greater than his power level of ki he will die ki isnt heat or lasers.most dcu fans forget that. goku is aslo a better fighter has more fire power,more techniques to use in a fight. and all superman has is strength.just my opinion tho.
@MrKingPerfect he is horrible wrong i have the original power level i get it from daizenshuu 7. but still if you look up on there and it say perfect cell at 2 billion about and he can destroy a solar sytem mystic gohan @ 50 billion can do way much more.but i`m just saying i think goku has adavantage .how is superman a galaxy buster he is a just super strong.
@itsgangstabob how exactly is superman a galaxy buster he is just strong.and if mssj can do that easy.in dbz they know that being super strong is useless as long as some one has more ki power. superman has no ki so what happenes when goku lunches a ki attack. even with his invulnerability he has no ki inside him to block the attack.thats how dbz is if you have no ki and some one lunches and attack higher than his power level he dies.
@itsgangstabob its real.we see superman can travel fast but when he fightshe fights at a regular speed and never exels.and human cant see the dbz fights the only time is when they stop to talk.not even gohan during the saiyan saga could see them he said the dissapeard .and the reason the talk is because it makes the plot better.i like dbz because it doesnt tell us how fast or how strong goku is we just know.unlike dc they have to make it a big deal.then they nver use the speed or strength again.
@itsgangstabob ok but we are argueing about goku vs superman. dcu has what we call travel speed they dont have combat speed.eveyy dc fight can been seen by any one but in dbz you need verryyy good eyes and ability to track ki.dbz does it more constanly thats why they punch and fight at great speeds.all dc characters are cabable of hitting each other.regardless of how fast.show me they arent.saying superman beats goku is like sayin wonder woman beats vegeta, piccolo , gontenks or uub.
I like both but I think Superman would win. Superman has destroyed a universe with a sneeze, something not even Kid Buu did. He also has incredible durability and speed. I mean if you can dodge a punch from the Flash and take punches from the Hulk and not flinch you are invincible to attacks. Still Goku and Superman would have a hard time defeating each other due to their power. I'd love to see these 2 ficht.
@MrKingPerfect supes feats of power are better than gokus in terms of strength speed durability invulnerability ect for pc supes todays supes would lose and what kind of advance fighting skills does goku have i have never actually seen goku learn martial arts only techniques instant transmission kamehameha ect goku is a better hero in my opinion more powerful goes to supes in my opinion
@dogkeeplookinatme i cant understand you because you dont open your mind.goku learned martail arts from his grandpa and roshi.dbz fight go so fast they have to track energy.when they smack you you fly through mountains. goku has stopped attacks that could incinrate the planet like coolers supernova.as for strength in th dbz world they dont go by that.becuase goku has fought uzaruus which are phyiscally stronger but he does beat them.can superman stand a universal spirit bomb.
@MrKingPerfect roshi never teaches them how to fight he only gives them more strength speed and stamina so does king kai and mr popo and kami goku can deflect planet busters but if he cant tank them and yes the weakest superman could tank a universal spirit bomb why cause he has a pure heart spirit bombs can only hurt people thats doesnt have a pure heart the 1st time he fought an ape he had help the 2nd he fought an ape he was a ssj4 and they were evenly matched
@dogkeeplookinatme actually my bad grandpa gohan tought him to fight. and sssj4 is sueperior to baby ozaru.the kamehameha to him all the way to the sun.how many times does superman get hit by lex in armor,doomsday and darkseid.and non of them match supermans speed.this shows you he cant even fight.he usaully throws heavy items at opponents.plus he has a set power.goku increeases.and if soomsday killed superman do you think doomsday cant kill goku.
@MrKingPerfect ssj4 goku and and baby ape were evenly matched thats why their fight lasted a long time omega shenron had no martial art training and still pounded the shit out of goku why cause the gap in power was to big and darksied and doomsday is more powerful than supes and lex uses his weaknesses thats why you see that green shit lex shoots that is kryptonite and even if lex didnt use it id rather see a good than a quick and boring 1
@dogkeeplookinatme the fact that baby absorbed almost every ones power including vegeta and went ozaru.which is 10x. but i still say ssj4 is stronger because baby was trying to reach that level.he might have been close but not by far.shenrons power was ultimate in the universe apart from ssj4 fused.it would make sense that he beat ssj4 goku.see but other dc fans say differ to doom and darkseid being stronger. but still shouldnt he been 10x light speed so why does he have trouble fight them.
@MrKingPerfect hes only as strong and powerful he needs to be i seen 1 comic where supes cant defeat bugs then the next hes tanking attacks that can destroy galaxies from high end feats hes stronger than anyone from dbz gt shown capable of from the low end feats ssj goku from frieza saga could most likely beat him up but i dont go with low end feats only high
@SSD417 lol well for 1 it isnt red light that weakens superman its the red sun radiation that weakens him and goku wont be able to go some place with a red sun he also has no knowledge of supermans weaknesses so saying goku does is retarded if goku knows of supes weaknesses than supes knows his NEEDLES lol much easier weakness to exploit pre crisis superman didnt get his powers from a sun your lack of knowledge os superman is funny you know nothing of his weaknesses his feats of power and so on
@SSD417 i feel new earth superman todays cannon version would lose to goku but pre crisis would stomp goku with ease his durability alone would out last goku entirely he has tanked multi galaxy busters which is A LOT more than what goku has shown or said todays version is stated to be able to destroy entire worlds with his punches pre crisis shattered time and space with his fist hes been stated to be capable of moving 1000s of times that of light with ease
@dogkeeplookinatme In the Buu saga, majin buus power started opening rifts between the dimensions, which would have led to the end of all existence, also Goku can move faster than 1000X the speed of light, ex. in the broly movie, he went from king kaio planet to another galaxy, traveled around it, and went back to his galaxy in one day
@killakadafi77 and that was with instant transmission which in dbz he said IT was light speed and super buu IS A LOT more powerful than goku goku even states this when he was in buus body AFTER they removed trunks goten piccolo and gohan from his being and you agree that broly never destroyed the south galaxy FINALLY someone with knowledge of movie 8
@dogkeeplookinatme You cannot travel from one galaxy to another at light speed, also your quoting the english dub, goku simply said he can turn himself into light, Broly caused major damage to south galaxy as far as i know, i havnt watched that movie in Japanese yet, i think i will though, but theres no way he destroyed an entire galaxy while under his Fathers control
@killakadafi77 yea he even says youd be surprised how much ground you can cover going 186,000 miles per second that is light speed i also know that either its light speed or its instant but regardless to that he doesnt use instant transmission like night crawler does and all broly did was wipe out civilizations he probably destroyed planets but he didnt destroy the whole thing for a fact the whole movie takes place there and hes been in that galaxy for years
@dogkeeplookinatme All he says is he could have moved to Earth in an instant, the english dubs were done by morons, if you think about it, saying he can move light speed makes zero sense, clearly he can go much faster, the only other thing he said is that he has to sense out another ki, so he cant go where there is no life
@killakadafi77 when he explains it to trunks he says he dematerialize into a mass of light then says he moves 186,000 mps with instant transmission supreme kai8 says its light speed after kid buu uses it and he was following brolys ki trail trying to find him led him to countless planets with no life broly was exterminating life not solar systems or galaxies and this doesnt matter goku doesnt use IT in battle like night crawler does
@killakadafi77 im talking about super 17 and goku lost to cell because cell was more powerful even when goku went full power cell was still stronger the only time cell went full power was on ssj2 gohan
@SSD417 and lifted the heaviest thing in existence this is pre crisis lvl and not even the most powerful superman gokus best is no match for supermans best
hahaha SSJ4 goku is a weak version, Struggling with small weights, he got cut by glass, kamehame ha x10 (deflected) only destroyed a couple of floors of a building, TOEI sucks lol...and the fucking DB Universe(4 galaxies) is much smaller than ours . even the earth is 50% smaller, research DBZ canon maps and stop overrating Goku.
lets say it takes 10,000 solar systems to make a galaxy now goku at ssj4 can destroy 50 galaxies but that whole last comment was pointless since superman fought someone whos punches had enough power to destroy 100 galaxies his heat vision fix a hole in the universe was moving so fast that god had to make him stop cause if he didnt he would have destroyed the multiverse 1000s of universes shatter time in space with his punches held a book with an infinite amount of weight
@dogkeeplookinatme a small galaxy has 50 billion solar systems not 10 thousand a large galaxy has 100 billion. Your giving both characters way to much credit.
@Trigonzilla i said lets say that it took 10,000 solar systems to make a galaxy i know that theres billions and billions of solar systems in a galaxy goku cant destroy a galaxy and even if he could pre crisis superman has withstood multi galaxy busters without a problem im not giving them more credit than they deserve pre crisis superman has done the things ive said hes done which is A LOT more than what anyone in dbz has done
@dogkeeplookinatme Granted PCSM is powerful. But i think the saiyans are superior race to Kryptonians on earth when it comes to potential. Give Goku as much lore out there as Superman has received and I think Superman would not stand a chance, Goku was able to increase his ability and powers a thousand times over in like 12 years. That is an insane ability Saiyans have and I believe if the story of DB was continued Goku would surpass what superman could do. Saiyams are almost limitless
@77plugser their ability to get stronger over time is nice but during the pre crisis era superman would dominate the fight again hes survived multi galaxy busters omega shenron was said to be able to destroy 1 galaxy superman fought a god that could destroy 100 galaxies with he fist goku has never withstood anything that powerful planet buster can and has killed him superman threatened all of existence with his speed lifted infinite weight so on and so on
@dogkeeplookinatme Hence why thy call him pre crisis SM. Cuz they realized they went rediculously retarted with his power, thus ruining the story, and having to revert him to the power he was originally intended to be. Anyone can make a character infintley strong, but it doesn't make him a good character or worth reading or watching. My point, sure he would win, but of course he would, they made a character who was original never meant to be that powerful...that powerful
@77plugser some (A LOT) of people think saiyans are unbeatable they think goku could beat galactus beings that can control matter and omnipotent beings lol todays superman i think would lose against goku but ANYONE with pre crisis lvl of power or stronger would beat goku on their worst day in a fair 1v1
@dogkeeplookinatme Yea pre-crisis character's were way OP'd guess they had to revert their powers cuz it was just getting dumb. But Goku is beatable, just i think many like him the best cuz he works hard for his power. Who doesn't like to see the underdog train , get powerful and rise above. But yea Galactus is kinda immortal so i don't think anyone is beating him anytime soon.
@77plugser supermans more like a battery away from a yellow sun would take its toll in about several days but since he can threaten existence with his speed i dont think that plan would work as well as some would like to think and the original superman couldnt fly but then again pc superman is from a diff universe there was 52 diff supermen so i would say that superman is as original as the next then theres superboy prime and the golden superman prime and those 2 are stronger than pc superman
@77plugser and in case you speak of broly just to let you know he didnt destroy the south galaxy he and the z fighters had their fight in the south galaxy
it take a ssj2 or stronger to destroy a solar system superman did that with a sneeze lets say ssj2s can destroy 5 solar systems giving it there all they get 100 times stronger when transforming to ssj3 now ssj3s can destroy 500 solar systems now we'll say ssj4s are 200 time stronger than a ssj3 now ssj4s can destroy 100,000 solar systems lets say through intense training he gets 5 times stronger than a ssj4 now he can destroy 500,000 solar systems
@leivadaros and superman only went faster than light speed and light speed by GAINING speed fisrt UNLIKE gokus whos is instant speed from the the start in fighting range superman would not BE that fast and things IN space tin to go faster than if they were on earth
@leivadaros gogeta and vegito and super buuhan are light speed but i don't know if goku is light speed in dbz there has been signs the he is in dbz but for fact goku as ssj 4 transforming in to that form from adutl is light speed speed cause he gets to bybys places which is like HOURS away in 5 secs so if they were in fighting RANGE how long do you think it would takes goku fist to contact superman face under 0 secs goku as ssj4 in gt is CLOSE TO light speed
.... wtf.... people are actually saying supersonic speeds? are u guys thinking str8? Superman doesnt just have supersonic speed he has near-light speed -.-.-.... other than that if goku fought with superman i think it would be a rather long battle cos superman is FUCKING ULTRA resilient god he can withstand millions of celsius of temperatures (if i aint wrong he can dive deep in the sun) and he can lift a fucking island... ok i aint VERYY informed on the topic but i think it's an even fight.....
@leivadaros dude goku can win easily all he has to do is hit superman with his dragon fist and it will go right threw him.....all he needs to do is go ss3 and he will win the fight in 10 mins or less. yes the both got PURE power but at the same time the outcome will be goku winning cause he has so many states of transformation that gives him 80x times the power then his last super sayjin state
It's called transforming. Maybe you should research the anime before you start insulting it. Goku proberbly wouldnt even have to go Super Saiyan 4 to beat superman. Super Saiyan 3 will be more than enough.
Can't believe this argument is still going.(as is evident by the recency of the comments) But since it is, it's painfully obvious that Goku would win, hell anyone from the DBZ universe could beat him. Not saying I don't like superman, cause I do, but he can't hack it against Goku.
Ok, you aninoobs. goku is immortal. IMMORTAL. at the end, he cant die. Superman is faster than a bullet....hell Batman an kick Supermans ass......whats that tell ya. Goku at end has no weakness...supermans weakness is.....a rock. Goku can't use his full power or it would destroy the planet. Goku is the strongest character from any series. ANY series. Think im wrong? name one stronger. btw super man= kids show DBZ=teen.....hmmm.......go put on your superman undies kids.
Superman is resilient to lava, lasers, fire, electricity, acid, plasma, radiations and more.Goku isn't resilient to those.Goku is resilient to kryptonite, red radiation.Goku can teleport, have hypersonic speed, a lot of ki to use as beams, punches, kiks, armour, shield and more but is limited.Superman has infinite atack power(doesn't go down like ki), supersonic speed, laser , super wind/frost breath, shockweave.Goku can evolve, Superman hasn't yet discovered his potential.My oppinion:DRAW.
These two guys are not gods.Are super heroes, and the fight that showld be is like Superman full power vs Goku SSJ3, because SSJ4 is not original.If you seen cartoons, GOku SSJ3 is very limited like Superman, not some super beings that can destroy galaxies...kids have great imagination... but let's be clear none of them have the power to destroy a planet unless destroys it's core.Goku's Kamehameha isn't at the size of a planet to neither superman punches.Consider their weaknesess
@Extrasailor cell with the Ka-me-ha-me-Ha he used he could destroy the entire solar system and vegeta the first time he fought goku he could destroy the earth same way he did some other planet before arriving to earth and he only did it with one finger, as for majin buu and broly they could destroy galaxies in an instant so research first kid :)
@Extrasailor goku can easily destroyer the earth with his kamahamaha bro. if BROLLY was going to destroy the earth just by powering up i am pretty sure goku can destroy the earth with a kamahamaha he almost did it in the cell saga did you forget ?
but goku has a back up to make him even more powerfull this is he could to beat superman in secs go ss4 and he use his kai-o-kentimes 20 and want be effected be cause hes in a higherstate hen less time (ssj4) and he plus could absorb a universal spirtbomb then he would be close to ssj4 gogeta power level an then he could up the anti by pushing the kai-o-ken even up more about 20 more times more then he would be on spar with ssj4 gogeta but ssj 4 gogeta still kicks his ass still this goku beats
Reaction time/depens hmmmm goku is fatser so his reacion time is fast but superman has super sences so i think hi reaction time would be some what fatser then gokus reaction time superman wins
Smartness/ goku wins in battle wise he was rise to fight unlike superma .goku trained sence a kid. his race is a fighter race born to fight while superman may be smart in other stuff gokus smarter than any one in a battle
Cleaverness/ goes to goku if u saw the anime or the manga u know
Cry baby/ not goku he never give up even if the stakes were aginst him superman did. superman thought about giveing up befor
Coolness/goku of coruse superman dress up in underwere i allways that was strange
Speed/goku wins in speed cause of instant trans mission
Strenght/we don't know because goku never tesed his strenght to its max in his max form in dbz/gt
Durability/superman wins this one but goku as a super high durability when in sj forms which raises when transforn to next form untill gt then he trades that in for a immunety when hit that attacks gets inaeffective each time its use he said it
And if any of the DBZ-GT cry babies want me to explain more facts and details on why superman is better then goku, then you are free to message me and ask me whatever you like, but seriously after seeing some of the comments its kind of funny how DBZ-GT fanboys cant bare the thought of Goku losing to a Superior being like Superman, and he aint the only one who would SOLO the DBZ-GT Universe i can name tons of powerful characters that would tear a new asshole in the DBZ-GT Universe
The truth is simply this, throughout the course of both Superman & Goku Fantasy Career's they have both accomplished some amazing feats, However, Superman has displayed feats that Goku could never do and thats just keeping it real, you can cry like a baby and bitch all day about what ifs but in the end its fact that rights out the Bullshitters, and the only Logical way to compare Goku and Superman is through what they have done in there entire histroy in Fantasy, going off of speculation is crap
@alucard123death & gouki02, Just seeing your stupid rants and speculations make me laugh, and it seems you guys dont have a clue who Superman is and probably never read most the comics, now look i like both DC / Marvel & DBZ-GT & Spawn ETC. I have seen it all and i can only lay out the facts and truth, i dont use wishful thinking or i dont speculate and i dont say what if this what if that none of that BULLSHIT!
@MrHershies Actually it is Goku that spends more time with the the Z-Team when fighting, Goku has had help tons of times, Superman actually is rarely with the Justice League, even Superman said in a comic issue that he works better alone, Superman in the Justice League was very short, while Goku is with the Z-team practically the entire time of the series and sagas, Movies etc.
@globodog your right Vegeta & Goku end up training in 450 times earth gravity in there normal forms, and they do increase there power greatly by transforming into SSJ, however they need to train and train for a while before they can reach a good level of strength, but in the course of the Superman Comics he becomes Scary Powerful and he does not need to train for a long time to gain these feats, just standing near or in the sun will make him INVINCIBLE!
@TonyChronic420 are you seriously defending superman? man look at the impact in real life to the kids, GOKU:doesn´t matter if you´re low class, if you discipline yourself, have enought passion, work hard you´ll be able to out class even the best of the best but with trainning!, SUP:oh sorry i was born this powerful, if i find a more powerful opponent i´ll just go and step into the sun! LOL omfg! you´re fucking killing superman with your good intentions!!
To end this shit on who has greater physical strength between Superman & Goku well if anybody knows anything about gravity then i will just come out with it... ok Goku's home planet Vegeta has a Gravity that is 10 times that of the Earth which would make him 10 times stronger then anyone on Earth, now Superman's home planet Krypton has a Gravity of 1000 times that of Earth which means he is 1000 times stronger then anyone on Earth, and this is just the superman from the 1930's a.k.a the ORIGINAL
@TonyChronic420 fuck superman he would get so owned goku will be like this asshole is alergic to some flourecent stone called krypton he will go to krypton bring some of those crystals kill superman and destroy his homeplanet for being such a faggit with thight clothes and having his underwear first then his clothes -.-
lol goku has no weakness but he got hurt by a rock the lil bold headed dude hit him in the head with a rock and and goku started yelling in pain and in ssj4 mode he fell down and bumped his head on his ice and he rubbing his head saying that it had hurt him and has died a total of 4 time he died when a green dude shot him with a energy beam a virus and twice from a exploding planet ssj and ssj2 so its save to say that superman wins when it comes to durability
@dogkeeplookinatme Fuck off little superman bullshit fan i hope you understand how ridicioulous he looks i mean making fun of justice this way... just not acceptable. lol.
common since shouldnt have to be used to know that using feat vs feat scenario superman wins in almost everything except for fighting skills and hand speed but superman has fought at supersonic speeds aswell but nevermind that you goku fans like to use opinions and assumptions while we superman fans use facts and as we do that yall call it bs cause noone in dbz hasnt shown the ability to withstand or do anything superman has done wich i laugh at
@dogkeeplookinatme ok first of all do you think superman can survive a spirit bomb? IF A GOD didnt i dont think supeman could thats how they killed omega shenron he was a god... but he got killed imagine your little punk superman.
lol well for 1 the spirit bomb only works on those who are evil and superman isnt evil and for 2 omega isnt a god but if im wrong the prove it to me and 3 superman has went 1on 1 with gods and won unlike goku he must take power/energy from his friends or his surroundings witch takes time for him to do but anyways
share with me a feat that goku ALONE has done a feat of speed physical strength durability invalunrability stamina that superman hasnt done
magnar a new god that can deliver a punch thats equals to 100 galaxies goku cant even survive a planet busting attack and superman was going 1v1 with a god lol plus the best feat anyone in dbz has done superman has done and better fact i wish it were different cause im beginning to like goku
@dogkeeplookinatme Dude thats why i hate superman i mean they making him so inmortal that is not believable anymore a cartoon where a guy gets no challenge is not cool Look goku was weak he started to gather power superman was weak and then he became powerful for some reason i dont know O_O dude do you know the power of super sayian 4? look the first super sayian has about a million enough to destroy the whole galaxy... the 4th one has over a trillion enough to destroy more than 500 galaxies...
i think the cartoon and movie superman would get his ass kicked by goku but his stronger versions of himself i believe would be considered a god in the dbz world and superman prime is like even stronger then the actual superman if you want to type in superman prime vs dc universe he almost defeated them and nearly did it like twice
i think supermans best feat is when he was breaking through every dimensional and universal wall god stopped him cause he would have destroyed all of existence if he hadnt have and superman prime is stronger than that thats crazy aint it
@dogkeeplookinatme Actually goku never uses ALL of his power if he does the earth will be destroyed and he is trying to protect it not Eliminate it... lol. ._.
well i wouldnt know i havnt seen much of goku to know what he does or doesnt do but superman holds back has well but if you type in superman vs darksied cuts loose you will see my reason why i think cartoon version superman would lose to goku
@TonyChronic420 wasn´t the ORIGINAL faster than the bullet, the dude jumped like the hulk, coulnd´t even fly LOL, don´t even bring the original dude, even piccolo can rape the original sm, If you also implies that the original is of the original authors then even superman´s family is gonna get rape! THE MILLION AND ONE version of sm is the only advantage sm´s fan has so don´t friskin bring the original LOL
@TheEzekiel300 your also forgetting that about 95% to 99% percent of the time those Machines that you speak of hurting Superman use KRYPTONITE! funny how you failed to mention that LOL! and if you wanna call out Superman's weak points i can do the same with Goku, 1. Goku cant survive going into the sun and actually live there, 2. Goku almost died from a pitiful heart virus 3. he got owned by machines in super 17 & android 19 4. in most of his fights he always needs some kind of help to win
@TonyChronic420 that is true but the only reason he got owned was because of the virus.he usually has like 3 otherppl helping him now that hes ssj4. but superman needs the help of the justice leage almost all the time. and gokus not going to need to fight in space or the sun. and even if he did. bulma would make some suit to survive ther5e because she could have figured out supermans DNA by a drop of blood and replicate into a suit form and goku instant transmissionhold on im out of space
TheEzekiel300 needs to read more Superman Comics on a grander scale like i did otherwise he would know about all the Incarnations of Superman like i do, i can name alot of Superman's that would run over the DBZ-GT universe by themselves, and heres some to name a few... Bronze Age Superman Post Crisis Superman Pre Crisis Superman Final Crisis Superman Infinite Crisis Superman Mr. Majestic Superman All Star Superman Superman Prime The superman though Robot Superman 1 Million Gold Superman Prime
@TonyChronic420 the million and one version of superman is the WHY it make´s superman look so wannabe, incoherent and inconsistent! if all this kind of superman si so canonical as you claimed then the fanmade goku lvl 99999 infinite+1 most be canonical too, if goku were to be handed to the million and 1 dc writters i think that goku would be more powerful than the most powerful version of superman 1/2 century ago!
i would like to see goku after he trained with grand kai vs pre crisis superman cuz isnt grand kai a god and if he teaches goku and he masters all his teachings he could go head to head with pre supes
@TheEzekiel300 the weak superman that you speak of is the animated cartoon superman which i agree would have trouble with DBZ-GT, the writers and WB wanted to make superman weaker in the cartoon for storyline purposes and t also make it more fair and realistic to the viewers, Now! However! in the comics thats a whole different story, most comic incarnations of superman would destroy all of DBZ-GT EASILY!!! animated superman is nothing compared to his more powerful comic counterparts
@TonyChronic420 most incarnations of superman has him getting sucker punched by guys in robot suites! Him picking up doomsday to burn him in the earths atmosphere!
@TheEzekiel300 you an opponent of mine, ha! your not even in my league son, and you must be smoking some extremely strong crack to think Goku is any match for Superman, i know all about DBZ-GT and DC / MARVEL etc... please dont make me have to school you on the many reasons why superman is far superior to goku, and it already seems that i won since you have no idea what you are talking about, Superman's strength on average is 40 Billion Tons, Goku in buu saga as SSJ only did 40 tons
@TonyChronic420 Superman average strength is a billion ton A. Then why does a human named lex luthor is his worst enemy? then their is the batman vs. superman debate. he cannot keep up with batman how can he keep up with Goku, who has zenkai. General grievous owned him. Amazons owned him. weak humans in robot suites owned him. He is always getting sucker punched. Faster than a speeding bullet? Big deal. Goku was dodging them as a kid. Superman does not even fight fast. Goku would dissapear onhim
Well im not sure about all this Jewish stuff but, in a fight between Superman vs Goku, Superman wins hands down, and if anybody needs a lesson to be taught i'll be more then happy to school you on the facts of why superman will win
@dogkeeplookinatme super man would win because he keeps on killing doomsday EVERY time doomsday trys to attack him goku dies 4 times and one is a by a planet blowing twice and super man got hit by two planets and still lived goku got hit by a rock and got hurt ( L0L )
no wonder u call urself a dog... i told you superman is for Scientific people, Goku at least fits into logic. Superman the only thing that made it interesting was its power. Goku was its power and epicness which he has in spades. Refute me if you want, i still think Goku will win anyway because Americans have a style that doesn't make anything epic
well im done stating the same facts that you ignore top notch solid hard proof that superman has done things that no one in gokus world has ever done but if he does do something in the future let me know
@dogkeeplookinatme ha! superman gets hit with people in robot suits! Has to pick up doomsday and burn him in the earths atmosphere when cell easily went through the earths atmosphere. Got hit with regular humans with power.
if your going to talk about cartoon superman and compare him to goku at his best than your a complete fucking retard goku is stronger than cartoon and movie superman but if you put the best and strongest from both sides goku WOULD BE NO FUCKING MATCH FOR SUPERMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@TheEzekiel300 fuck you super man owned you and ya mom you ass nigger dick face yea grandma smells like bird shit just like yea dad did so super man wins ya bitch
@TheEzekiel300 so you dont give a shit you bitch also super man would kick goku's ass and im done with you but it does not mean you win super man>goku
What was the music???
jasonmat2 2 weeks ago
Goku
jasonmat2 2 weeks ago
I agree with munguntulga, this is a fight not a contest to see who can lift the most planets in which case sure I'd give it to supes, however both are very strong and there fore the tie breaker comes to skill which as munguntulga said goku is an expert martial artist it would be the same as having a brawler fight a black belt
iamspiff888 1 month ago
Superman wins..
polimaniatico 1 month ago
Goku rapes him so EASILY
LegendaryPhenomGod 2 months ago
@itsgangstabob I'm not mad. See? :)
Umadbro? you look like this >:(
Benjamin568 3 months ago
@itsgangstabob What the heck are you talking about? I never raged at you lol.
Sorry if it seemed like it.
Benjamin568 3 months ago
@itsgangstabob ok....?
Benjamin568 3 months ago
@itsgangstabob Lol. I didn't say anything about cannon superman
Benjamin568 3 months ago
Seriously superman vs goku? Obviously Goku, all these fanboys talk about their comics but they dont realize that it takes place in alternate realities not mainstream which makes them non-canon. Even with superman's full power they cant beat goku. Lets take away all their superpowers cause it gets us nowhere arguing about made up abilities. Goku an expert martial artist vs superman who has no fighting skills at all just fist first and get knocked over like in every JL episode.
munguntulga 3 months ago
@munguntulga Goku is really strong and powerful, but I'm pretty sure Supes would win.
They really messed him up in JL.
Think about it.
Superman had stopped a supernova just by flying around it.
He destroyed an entire solar system from one small sneeze.
He's lifted over 200 quintillion tons.
Benjamin568 3 months ago
@itsgangstabob superman is overpowered because of the so call feats i here dc hans state all the time and hee has no equal according to dc.but dbz has a lot of super strong characters.and they often die. when was the last time superman actaully died and not came back in a gay way.plus if power level of 1600 can destroy a planet want can a powerlevel of 800,000,000 do during the andriod saga. plus who in thier right mind wants to blow up a galaxy.
MrKingPerfect 4 months ago
@itsgangstabob now your bringing marvel into this. we all know what they can do but they never really do that like when silver surfer fight thanoss or thor he gets beat but he could do that.but i`m just sayin the ki thing is what makes goku win .if superman had ki then yess he might have a chance. bu in the end goku is a accomplished fighter who has limtitaions and competion in his universe while superma is a over written set character thats always the strongest.
MrKingPerfect 5 months ago
@itsgangstabob read manga not watch anime dub and you would see omega shenron was supreme power in the dbz u and sssj4 gojeta was vastly stronger than him. and again with the ki think supes has no ki so he is set downeed by the fact that if goku lunches and attack greater than his power level of ki he will die ki isnt heat or lasers.most dcu fans forget that. goku is aslo a better fighter has more fire power,more techniques to use in a fight. and all superman has is strength.just my opinion tho.
MrKingPerfect 5 months ago
@MrKingPerfect he is horrible wrong i have the original power level i get it from daizenshuu 7. but still if you look up on there and it say perfect cell at 2 billion about and he can destroy a solar sytem mystic gohan @ 50 billion can do way much more.but i`m just saying i think goku has adavantage .how is superman a galaxy buster he is a just super strong.
MrKingPerfect 4 months ago
@itsgangstabob how exactly is superman a galaxy buster he is just strong.and if mssj can do that easy.in dbz they know that being super strong is useless as long as some one has more ki power. superman has no ki so what happenes when goku lunches a ki attack. even with his invulnerability he has no ki inside him to block the attack.thats how dbz is if you have no ki and some one lunches and attack higher than his power level he dies.
MrKingPerfect 5 months ago
@itsgangstabob its real.we see superman can travel fast but when he fightshe fights at a regular speed and never exels.and human cant see the dbz fights the only time is when they stop to talk.not even gohan during the saiyan saga could see them he said the dissapeard .and the reason the talk is because it makes the plot better.i like dbz because it doesnt tell us how fast or how strong goku is we just know.unlike dc they have to make it a big deal.then they nver use the speed or strength again.
MrKingPerfect 5 months ago
@itsgangstabob ok but we are argueing about goku vs superman. dcu has what we call travel speed they dont have combat speed.eveyy dc fight can been seen by any one but in dbz you need verryyy good eyes and ability to track ki.dbz does it more constanly thats why they punch and fight at great speeds.all dc characters are cabable of hitting each other.regardless of how fast.show me they arent.saying superman beats goku is like sayin wonder woman beats vegeta, piccolo , gontenks or uub.
MrKingPerfect 5 months ago
I like both but I think Superman would win. Superman has destroyed a universe with a sneeze, something not even Kid Buu did. He also has incredible durability and speed. I mean if you can dodge a punch from the Flash and take punches from the Hulk and not flinch you are invincible to attacks. Still Goku and Superman would have a hard time defeating each other due to their power. I'd love to see these 2 ficht.
MariotheWereplumber 5 months ago
Superman wouldn't even be able to keep up with Goku in his first Super Saiyan form.
super732sayian 5 months ago
IN THIS DEBATE YOU DECIDE WHO WINS BY WHO HAS MORE.
SUPERMANS ABILITIES. (STRENGTH,SPEED,HEAT VISION)
gOKU ABILITIES( RAISES POWER SPEED AND STRENGTH @ WILL,KI ATTACKS,TELEPORTATION ,ADVANCE FIGHTING STYLE,WILL POWER,AGILITY)
WHO HAS THE BETTER ODDS OF WINNING BY ABILITIES.ASK YOUR SELF THIS CAN DOOMSDAY,LEX,DARKSEID BEAT GOKU,
AND DONT BE BLIND TRY ARGUEING FROM THE OTHER PERSONS VIEW. WHICH CHARACHTER IS MORE ORIGINAL.
WHICH CHARACTER UNIVESR HAS BETTER VILLIANS.
THINK.
MrKingPerfect 6 months ago
@MrKingPerfect supes feats of power are better than gokus in terms of strength speed durability invulnerability ect for pc supes todays supes would lose and what kind of advance fighting skills does goku have i have never actually seen goku learn martial arts only techniques instant transmission kamehameha ect goku is a better hero in my opinion more powerful goes to supes in my opinion
dogkeeplookinatme 6 months ago
@dogkeeplookinatme i cant understand you because you dont open your mind.goku learned martail arts from his grandpa and roshi.dbz fight go so fast they have to track energy.when they smack you you fly through mountains. goku has stopped attacks that could incinrate the planet like coolers supernova.as for strength in th dbz world they dont go by that.becuase goku has fought uzaruus which are phyiscally stronger but he does beat them.can superman stand a universal spirit bomb.
MrKingPerfect 6 months ago
@MrKingPerfect roshi never teaches them how to fight he only gives them more strength speed and stamina so does king kai and mr popo and kami goku can deflect planet busters but if he cant tank them and yes the weakest superman could tank a universal spirit bomb why cause he has a pure heart spirit bombs can only hurt people thats doesnt have a pure heart the 1st time he fought an ape he had help the 2nd he fought an ape he was a ssj4 and they were evenly matched
dogkeeplookinatme 6 months ago
@dogkeeplookinatme actually my bad grandpa gohan tought him to fight. and sssj4 is sueperior to baby ozaru.the kamehameha to him all the way to the sun.how many times does superman get hit by lex in armor,doomsday and darkseid.and non of them match supermans speed.this shows you he cant even fight.he usaully throws heavy items at opponents.plus he has a set power.goku increeases.and if soomsday killed superman do you think doomsday cant kill goku.
MrKingPerfect 6 months ago
@MrKingPerfect ssj4 goku and and baby ape were evenly matched thats why their fight lasted a long time omega shenron had no martial art training and still pounded the shit out of goku why cause the gap in power was to big and darksied and doomsday is more powerful than supes and lex uses his weaknesses thats why you see that green shit lex shoots that is kryptonite and even if lex didnt use it id rather see a good than a quick and boring 1
dogkeeplookinatme 6 months ago
@dogkeeplookinatme the fact that baby absorbed almost every ones power including vegeta and went ozaru.which is 10x. but i still say ssj4 is stronger because baby was trying to reach that level.he might have been close but not by far.shenrons power was ultimate in the universe apart from ssj4 fused.it would make sense that he beat ssj4 goku.see but other dc fans say differ to doom and darkseid being stronger. but still shouldnt he been 10x light speed so why does he have trouble fight them.
MrKingPerfect 6 months ago
@MrKingPerfect hes only as strong and powerful he needs to be i seen 1 comic where supes cant defeat bugs then the next hes tanking attacks that can destroy galaxies from high end feats hes stronger than anyone from dbz gt shown capable of from the low end feats ssj goku from frieza saga could most likely beat him up but i dont go with low end feats only high
dogkeeplookinatme 6 months ago
fuck superman
killakadafi77 6 months ago
You know what's funny. Red light weakness of Superman so Goku goes Kaioken and..you know the rest. Or Kryptonite xD
SSD417 7 months ago
@SSD417 lol well for 1 it isnt red light that weakens superman its the red sun radiation that weakens him and goku wont be able to go some place with a red sun he also has no knowledge of supermans weaknesses so saying goku does is retarded if goku knows of supes weaknesses than supes knows his NEEDLES lol much easier weakness to exploit pre crisis superman didnt get his powers from a sun your lack of knowledge os superman is funny you know nothing of his weaknesses his feats of power and so on
dogkeeplookinatme 7 months ago
@SSD417 i feel new earth superman todays cannon version would lose to goku but pre crisis would stomp goku with ease his durability alone would out last goku entirely he has tanked multi galaxy busters which is A LOT more than what goku has shown or said todays version is stated to be able to destroy entire worlds with his punches pre crisis shattered time and space with his fist hes been stated to be capable of moving 1000s of times that of light with ease
dogkeeplookinatme 7 months ago
@dogkeeplookinatme In the Buu saga, majin buus power started opening rifts between the dimensions, which would have led to the end of all existence, also Goku can move faster than 1000X the speed of light, ex. in the broly movie, he went from king kaio planet to another galaxy, traveled around it, and went back to his galaxy in one day
killakadafi77 6 months ago
@killakadafi77 and that was with instant transmission which in dbz he said IT was light speed and super buu IS A LOT more powerful than goku goku even states this when he was in buus body AFTER they removed trunks goten piccolo and gohan from his being and you agree that broly never destroyed the south galaxy FINALLY someone with knowledge of movie 8
dogkeeplookinatme 6 months ago
@dogkeeplookinatme You cannot travel from one galaxy to another at light speed, also your quoting the english dub, goku simply said he can turn himself into light, Broly caused major damage to south galaxy as far as i know, i havnt watched that movie in Japanese yet, i think i will though, but theres no way he destroyed an entire galaxy while under his Fathers control
killakadafi77 6 months ago
@killakadafi77 yea he even says youd be surprised how much ground you can cover going 186,000 miles per second that is light speed i also know that either its light speed or its instant but regardless to that he doesnt use instant transmission like night crawler does and all broly did was wipe out civilizations he probably destroyed planets but he didnt destroy the whole thing for a fact the whole movie takes place there and hes been in that galaxy for years
dogkeeplookinatme 6 months ago
@dogkeeplookinatme All he says is he could have moved to Earth in an instant, the english dubs were done by morons, if you think about it, saying he can move light speed makes zero sense, clearly he can go much faster, the only other thing he said is that he has to sense out another ki, so he cant go where there is no life
killakadafi77 6 months ago
@killakadafi77 when he explains it to trunks he says he dematerialize into a mass of light then says he moves 186,000 mps with instant transmission supreme kai8 says its light speed after kid buu uses it and he was following brolys ki trail trying to find him led him to countless planets with no life broly was exterminating life not solar systems or galaxies and this doesnt matter goku doesnt use IT in battle like night crawler does
dogkeeplookinatme 6 months ago
@killakadafi77 the last time he tried using IT in battle he got his ass kicked
dogkeeplookinatme 6 months ago
@dogkeeplookinatme You talking about Cell? He didnt anticipate Cells regeneration, thats when he lost the fight
killakadafi77 6 months ago
@killakadafi77 im talking about super 17 and goku lost to cell because cell was more powerful even when goku went full power cell was still stronger the only time cell went full power was on ssj2 gohan
dogkeeplookinatme 6 months ago
@dogkeeplookinatme yeah i know that, and super 17 could sense him the instant he appeared
killakadafi77 6 months ago
@killakadafi77 i believe super 17 says he can hear the vibrations of goku when he reappears or something like that
dogkeeplookinatme 6 months ago
@SSD417 and lifted the heaviest thing in existence this is pre crisis lvl and not even the most powerful superman gokus best is no match for supermans best
dogkeeplookinatme 7 months ago
goku would win.
dragonmaster9822 9 months ago
Anything past ss2 and superman is going down hard.
Cal2289 9 months ago
hahaha SSJ4 goku is a weak version, Struggling with small weights, he got cut by glass, kamehame ha x10 (deflected) only destroyed a couple of floors of a building, TOEI sucks lol...and the fucking DB Universe(4 galaxies) is much smaller than ours . even the earth is 50% smaller, research DBZ canon maps and stop overrating Goku.
TheCryforjustice 11 months ago
btw saiyans get 50 times stronger from the transformations
dogkeeplookinatme 11 months ago
lets say it takes 10,000 solar systems to make a galaxy now goku at ssj4 can destroy 50 galaxies but that whole last comment was pointless since superman fought someone whos punches had enough power to destroy 100 galaxies his heat vision fix a hole in the universe was moving so fast that god had to make him stop cause if he didnt he would have destroyed the multiverse 1000s of universes shatter time in space with his punches held a book with an infinite amount of weight
dogkeeplookinatme 11 months ago
@dogkeeplookinatme a small galaxy has 50 billion solar systems not 10 thousand a large galaxy has 100 billion. Your giving both characters way to much credit.
Trigonzilla 8 months ago
@Trigonzilla i said lets say that it took 10,000 solar systems to make a galaxy i know that theres billions and billions of solar systems in a galaxy goku cant destroy a galaxy and even if he could pre crisis superman has withstood multi galaxy busters without a problem im not giving them more credit than they deserve pre crisis superman has done the things ive said hes done which is A LOT more than what anyone in dbz has done
dogkeeplookinatme 8 months ago
@dogkeeplookinatme my apologies then
Trigonzilla 8 months ago
@dogkeeplookinatme Granted PCSM is powerful. But i think the saiyans are superior race to Kryptonians on earth when it comes to potential. Give Goku as much lore out there as Superman has received and I think Superman would not stand a chance, Goku was able to increase his ability and powers a thousand times over in like 12 years. That is an insane ability Saiyans have and I believe if the story of DB was continued Goku would surpass what superman could do. Saiyams are almost limitless
77plugser 8 months ago
@77plugser their ability to get stronger over time is nice but during the pre crisis era superman would dominate the fight again hes survived multi galaxy busters omega shenron was said to be able to destroy 1 galaxy superman fought a god that could destroy 100 galaxies with he fist goku has never withstood anything that powerful planet buster can and has killed him superman threatened all of existence with his speed lifted infinite weight so on and so on
dogkeeplookinatme 8 months ago
@dogkeeplookinatme Hence why thy call him pre crisis SM. Cuz they realized they went rediculously retarted with his power, thus ruining the story, and having to revert him to the power he was originally intended to be. Anyone can make a character infintley strong, but it doesn't make him a good character or worth reading or watching. My point, sure he would win, but of course he would, they made a character who was original never meant to be that powerful...that powerful
77plugser 8 months ago
@77plugser some (A LOT) of people think saiyans are unbeatable they think goku could beat galactus beings that can control matter and omnipotent beings lol todays superman i think would lose against goku but ANYONE with pre crisis lvl of power or stronger would beat goku on their worst day in a fair 1v1
dogkeeplookinatme 8 months ago
@dogkeeplookinatme Yea pre-crisis character's were way OP'd guess they had to revert their powers cuz it was just getting dumb. But Goku is beatable, just i think many like him the best cuz he works hard for his power. Who doesn't like to see the underdog train , get powerful and rise above. But yea Galactus is kinda immortal so i don't think anyone is beating him anytime soon.
77plugser 8 months ago
@77plugser and any kryptonain under a yellow sun would get that strong instantly
dogkeeplookinatme 8 months ago
@dogkeeplookinatme Ah so Goku takes the fight to another planet without the yellow sun and wastes him
77plugser 8 months ago
@77plugser supermans more like a battery away from a yellow sun would take its toll in about several days but since he can threaten existence with his speed i dont think that plan would work as well as some would like to think and the original superman couldnt fly but then again pc superman is from a diff universe there was 52 diff supermen so i would say that superman is as original as the next then theres superboy prime and the golden superman prime and those 2 are stronger than pc superman
dogkeeplookinatme 8 months ago
@77plugser and in case you speak of broly just to let you know he didnt destroy the south galaxy he and the z fighters had their fight in the south galaxy
dogkeeplookinatme 8 months ago
@77plugser pre crisis krptonains would stomp an army on saiyans
dogkeeplookinatme 8 months ago
@dogkeeplookinatme Not in ultimate potential.
77plugser 8 months ago
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it take a ssj2 or stronger to destroy a solar system superman did that with a sneeze lets say ssj2s can destroy 5 solar systems giving it there all they get 100 times stronger when transforming to ssj3 now ssj3s can destroy 500 solar systems now we'll say ssj4s are 200 time stronger than a ssj3 now ssj4s can destroy 100,000 solar systems lets say through intense training he gets 5 times stronger than a ssj4 now he can destroy 500,000 solar systems
dogkeeplookinatme 11 months ago
goku beats all versions of superman except the pre crisis or stronger
dogkeeplookinatme 11 months ago
goku wins my opinion
96montecarlo1 11 months ago
@leivadaros and superman only went faster than light speed and light speed by GAINING speed fisrt UNLIKE gokus whos is instant speed from the the start in fighting range superman would not BE that fast and things IN space tin to go faster than if they were on earth
laahah1 1 year ago
@leivadaros gogeta and vegito and super buuhan are light speed but i don't know if goku is light speed in dbz there has been signs the he is in dbz but for fact goku as ssj 4 transforming in to that form from adutl is light speed speed cause he gets to bybys places which is like HOURS away in 5 secs so if they were in fighting RANGE how long do you think it would takes goku fist to contact superman face under 0 secs goku as ssj4 in gt is CLOSE TO light speed
laahah1 1 year ago
.... wtf.... people are actually saying supersonic speeds? are u guys thinking str8? Superman doesnt just have supersonic speed he has near-light speed -.-.-.... other than that if goku fought with superman i think it would be a rather long battle cos superman is FUCKING ULTRA resilient god he can withstand millions of celsius of temperatures (if i aint wrong he can dive deep in the sun) and he can lift a fucking island... ok i aint VERYY informed on the topic but i think it's an even fight.....
leivadaros 1 year ago
@leivadaros dude goku can win easily all he has to do is hit superman with his dragon fist and it will go right threw him.....all he needs to do is go ss3 and he will win the fight in 10 mins or less. yes the both got PURE power but at the same time the outcome will be goku winning cause he has so many states of transformation that gives him 80x times the power then his last super sayjin state
youngmack213 1 year ago
Is superman fighting two dbz characters at once or does goku die his hair with what color is fashionably in season? What a wuss.
qjeez 1 year ago
@qjeez
It's called transforming. Maybe you should research the anime before you start insulting it. Goku proberbly wouldnt even have to go Super Saiyan 4 to beat superman. Super Saiyan 3 will be more than enough.
SoraMiki31 1 year ago
Superman FTW !!!
TheCryforjustice 1 year ago
Can't believe this argument is still going.(as is evident by the recency of the comments) But since it is, it's painfully obvious that Goku would win, hell anyone from the DBZ universe could beat him. Not saying I don't like superman, cause I do, but he can't hack it against Goku.
Giles231987 1 year ago
Ok, you aninoobs. goku is immortal. IMMORTAL. at the end, he cant die. Superman is faster than a bullet....hell Batman an kick Supermans ass......whats that tell ya. Goku at end has no weakness...supermans weakness is.....a rock. Goku can't use his full power or it would destroy the planet. Goku is the strongest character from any series. ANY series. Think im wrong? name one stronger. btw super man= kids show DBZ=teen.....hmmm.......go put on your superman undies kids.
IchigoKurosakiX18 1 year ago
Superman is resilient to lava, lasers, fire, electricity, acid, plasma, radiations and more.Goku isn't resilient to those.Goku is resilient to kryptonite, red radiation.Goku can teleport, have hypersonic speed, a lot of ki to use as beams, punches, kiks, armour, shield and more but is limited.Superman has infinite atack power(doesn't go down like ki), supersonic speed, laser , super wind/frost breath, shockweave.Goku can evolve, Superman hasn't yet discovered his potential.My oppinion:DRAW.
Extrasailor 1 year ago
These two guys are not gods.Are super heroes, and the fight that showld be is like Superman full power vs Goku SSJ3, because SSJ4 is not original.If you seen cartoons, GOku SSJ3 is very limited like Superman, not some super beings that can destroy galaxies...kids have great imagination... but let's be clear none of them have the power to destroy a planet unless destroys it's core.Goku's Kamehameha isn't at the size of a planet to neither superman punches.Consider their weaknesess
Extrasailor 1 year ago
@Extrasailor cell with the Ka-me-ha-me-Ha he used he could destroy the entire solar system and vegeta the first time he fought goku he could destroy the earth same way he did some other planet before arriving to earth and he only did it with one finger, as for majin buu and broly they could destroy galaxies in an instant so research first kid :)
NotechRX7 1 year ago
@Extrasailor goku can easily destroyer the earth with his kamahamaha bro. if BROLLY was going to destroy the earth just by powering up i am pretty sure goku can destroy the earth with a kamahamaha he almost did it in the cell saga did you forget ?
youngmack213 1 year ago
if u put goku at his best start of the battle goku wins hands down
laahah1 1 year ago
superman
laahah1 1 year ago
but goku has a back up to make him even more powerfull this is he could to beat superman in secs go ss4 and he use his kai-o-kentimes 20 and want be effected be cause hes in a higherstate hen less time (ssj4) and he plus could absorb a universal spirtbomb then he would be close to ssj4 gogeta power level an then he could up the anti by pushing the kai-o-ken even up more about 20 more times more then he would be on spar with ssj4 gogeta but ssj 4 gogeta still kicks his ass still this goku beats
laahah1 1 year ago
Reaction time/depens hmmmm goku is fatser so his reacion time is fast but superman has super sences so i think hi reaction time would be some what fatser then gokus reaction time superman wins
laahah1 1 year ago
Smartness/ goku wins in battle wise he was rise to fight unlike superma .goku trained sence a kid. his race is a fighter race born to fight while superman may be smart in other stuff gokus smarter than any one in a battle
Cleaverness/ goes to goku if u saw the anime or the manga u know
Cry baby/ not goku he never give up even if the stakes were aginst him superman did. superman thought about giveing up befor
Coolness/goku of coruse superman dress up in underwere i allways that was strange
laahah1 1 year ago
Speed/goku wins in speed cause of instant trans mission
Strenght/we don't know because goku never tesed his strenght to its max in his max form in dbz/gt
Durability/superman wins this one but goku as a super high durability when in sj forms which raises when transforn to next form untill gt then he trades that in for a immunety when hit that attacks gets inaeffective each time its use he said it
Powers/goku wins hands down in this one
Healing/tie one has a bean other sun
laahah1 1 year ago
@MrDestroyer187 goku owns superman anyday none the less ssj 4 gogeta u make me lololool all day
laahah1 1 year ago
And if any of the DBZ-GT cry babies want me to explain more facts and details on why superman is better then goku, then you are free to message me and ask me whatever you like, but seriously after seeing some of the comments its kind of funny how DBZ-GT fanboys cant bare the thought of Goku losing to a Superior being like Superman, and he aint the only one who would SOLO the DBZ-GT Universe i can name tons of powerful characters that would tear a new asshole in the DBZ-GT Universe
MrDestroyer187 1 year ago
The truth is simply this, throughout the course of both Superman & Goku Fantasy Career's they have both accomplished some amazing feats, However, Superman has displayed feats that Goku could never do and thats just keeping it real, you can cry like a baby and bitch all day about what ifs but in the end its fact that rights out the Bullshitters, and the only Logical way to compare Goku and Superman is through what they have done in there entire histroy in Fantasy, going off of speculation is crap
MrDestroyer187 1 year ago
@alucard123death & gouki02, Just seeing your stupid rants and speculations make me laugh, and it seems you guys dont have a clue who Superman is and probably never read most the comics, now look i like both DC / Marvel & DBZ-GT & Spawn ETC. I have seen it all and i can only lay out the facts and truth, i dont use wishful thinking or i dont speculate and i dont say what if this what if that none of that BULLSHIT!
MrDestroyer187 1 year ago
@MrHershies Actually it is Goku that spends more time with the the Z-Team when fighting, Goku has had help tons of times, Superman actually is rarely with the Justice League, even Superman said in a comic issue that he works better alone, Superman in the Justice League was very short, while Goku is with the Z-team practically the entire time of the series and sagas, Movies etc.
MrDestroyer187 1 year ago
@globodog your right Vegeta & Goku end up training in 450 times earth gravity in there normal forms, and they do increase there power greatly by transforming into SSJ, however they need to train and train for a while before they can reach a good level of strength, but in the course of the Superman Comics he becomes Scary Powerful and he does not need to train for a long time to gain these feats, just standing near or in the sun will make him INVINCIBLE!
TonyChronic420 1 year ago
@TonyChronic420 are you seriously defending superman? man look at the impact in real life to the kids, GOKU:doesn´t matter if you´re low class, if you discipline yourself, have enought passion, work hard you´ll be able to out class even the best of the best but with trainning!, SUP:oh sorry i was born this powerful, if i find a more powerful opponent i´ll just go and step into the sun! LOL omfg! you´re fucking killing superman with your good intentions!!
gouki02 1 year ago
To end this shit on who has greater physical strength between Superman & Goku well if anybody knows anything about gravity then i will just come out with it... ok Goku's home planet Vegeta has a Gravity that is 10 times that of the Earth which would make him 10 times stronger then anyone on Earth, now Superman's home planet Krypton has a Gravity of 1000 times that of Earth which means he is 1000 times stronger then anyone on Earth, and this is just the superman from the 1930's a.k.a the ORIGINAL
TonyChronic420 1 year ago
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globodog 1 year ago
@TonyChronic420 during the course of the dragonball saga goku and vegeta end up training under 450 times normal gravity in their base forms,
super saiyain mode increases all stats by times 50, making supersaiyan 1 goku 22,500 times stronger then anyone on earth!
globodog 1 year ago
@TonyChronic420 fuck superman he would get so owned goku will be like this asshole is alergic to some flourecent stone called krypton he will go to krypton bring some of those crystals kill superman and destroy his homeplanet for being such a faggit with thight clothes and having his underwear first then his clothes -.-
alucard123death 1 year ago
lol goku has no weakness but he got hurt by a rock the lil bold headed dude hit him in the head with a rock and and goku started yelling in pain and in ssj4 mode he fell down and bumped his head on his ice and he rubbing his head saying that it had hurt him and has died a total of 4 time he died when a green dude shot him with a energy beam a virus and twice from a exploding planet ssj and ssj2 so its save to say that superman wins when it comes to durability
dogkeeplookinatme 1 year ago
@dogkeeplookinatme Fuck off little superman bullshit fan i hope you understand how ridicioulous he looks i mean making fun of justice this way... just not acceptable. lol.
alucard123death 1 year ago
what did i say that was bullshit please inform me
common since shouldnt have to be used to know that using feat vs feat scenario superman wins in almost everything except for fighting skills and hand speed but superman has fought at supersonic speeds aswell but nevermind that you goku fans like to use opinions and assumptions while we superman fans use facts and as we do that yall call it bs cause noone in dbz hasnt shown the ability to withstand or do anything superman has done wich i laugh at
dogkeeplookinatme 1 year ago
@dogkeeplookinatme ok first of all do you think superman can survive a spirit bomb? IF A GOD didnt i dont think supeman could thats how they killed omega shenron he was a god... but he got killed imagine your little punk superman.
alucard123death 1 year ago
lol well for 1 the spirit bomb only works on those who are evil and superman isnt evil and for 2 omega isnt a god but if im wrong the prove it to me and 3 superman has went 1on 1 with gods and won unlike goku he must take power/energy from his friends or his surroundings witch takes time for him to do but anyways
share with me a feat that goku ALONE has done a feat of speed physical strength durability invalunrability stamina that superman hasnt done
dogkeeplookinatme 1 year ago
magnar a new god that can deliver a punch thats equals to 100 galaxies goku cant even survive a planet busting attack and superman was going 1v1 with a god lol plus the best feat anyone in dbz has done superman has done and better fact i wish it were different cause im beginning to like goku
dogkeeplookinatme 1 year ago
@dogkeeplookinatme Dude thats why i hate superman i mean they making him so inmortal that is not believable anymore a cartoon where a guy gets no challenge is not cool Look goku was weak he started to gather power superman was weak and then he became powerful for some reason i dont know O_O dude do you know the power of super sayian 4? look the first super sayian has about a million enough to destroy the whole galaxy... the 4th one has over a trillion enough to destroy more than 500 galaxies...
alucard123death 1 year ago
i think the cartoon and movie superman would get his ass kicked by goku but his stronger versions of himself i believe would be considered a god in the dbz world and superman prime is like even stronger then the actual superman if you want to type in superman prime vs dc universe he almost defeated them and nearly did it like twice
dogkeeplookinatme 1 year ago
i think supermans best feat is when he was breaking through every dimensional and universal wall god stopped him cause he would have destroyed all of existence if he hadnt have and superman prime is stronger than that thats crazy aint it
dogkeeplookinatme 1 year ago
@dogkeeplookinatme Actually goku never uses ALL of his power if he does the earth will be destroyed and he is trying to protect it not Eliminate it... lol. ._.
alucard123death 1 year ago
well i wouldnt know i havnt seen much of goku to know what he does or doesnt do but superman holds back has well but if you type in superman vs darksied cuts loose you will see my reason why i think cartoon version superman would lose to goku
dogkeeplookinatme 1 year ago
@TonyChronic420 wasn´t the ORIGINAL faster than the bullet, the dude jumped like the hulk, coulnd´t even fly LOL, don´t even bring the original dude, even piccolo can rape the original sm, If you also implies that the original is of the original authors then even superman´s family is gonna get rape! THE MILLION AND ONE version of sm is the only advantage sm´s fan has so don´t friskin bring the original LOL
gouki02 1 year ago
@TheEzekiel300 your also forgetting that about 95% to 99% percent of the time those Machines that you speak of hurting Superman use KRYPTONITE! funny how you failed to mention that LOL! and if you wanna call out Superman's weak points i can do the same with Goku, 1. Goku cant survive going into the sun and actually live there, 2. Goku almost died from a pitiful heart virus 3. he got owned by machines in super 17 & android 19 4. in most of his fights he always needs some kind of help to win
TonyChronic420 1 year ago
@TonyChronic420 that is true but the only reason he got owned was because of the virus.he usually has like 3 otherppl helping him now that hes ssj4. but superman needs the help of the justice leage almost all the time. and gokus not going to need to fight in space or the sun. and even if he did. bulma would make some suit to survive ther5e because she could have figured out supermans DNA by a drop of blood and replicate into a suit form and goku instant transmissionhold on im out of space
MrHershies 1 year ago
@MrHershies he could use instant transmission to go get kryptonite IF he even came close to loseing. so in the end GOKU would win :)
MrHershies 1 year ago
@Dan9o the grand kai or any kai for that matter are not Gods, TRUE GODS are ALL Powerful and dont die! they are Omnipotent!
TonyChronic420 1 year ago
TonyChronic420 1 year ago
@TonyChronic420 the million and one version of superman is the WHY it make´s superman look so wannabe, incoherent and inconsistent! if all this kind of superman si so canonical as you claimed then the fanmade goku lvl 99999 infinite+1 most be canonical too, if goku were to be handed to the million and 1 dc writters i think that goku would be more powerful than the most powerful version of superman 1/2 century ago!
gouki02 1 year ago
i would like to see goku after he trained with grand kai vs pre crisis superman cuz isnt grand kai a god and if he teaches goku and he masters all his teachings he could go head to head with pre supes
Dan9o 1 year ago
@TheEzekiel300 the weak superman that you speak of is the animated cartoon superman which i agree would have trouble with DBZ-GT, the writers and WB wanted to make superman weaker in the cartoon for storyline purposes and t also make it more fair and realistic to the viewers, Now! However! in the comics thats a whole different story, most comic incarnations of superman would destroy all of DBZ-GT EASILY!!! animated superman is nothing compared to his more powerful comic counterparts
TonyChronic420 1 year ago
@TonyChronic420 most incarnations of superman has him getting sucker punched by guys in robot suites! Him picking up doomsday to burn him in the earths atmosphere!
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
Goku can breathe in space, he went to the moon.
Goku wins, he is far stronger and faster than gay superfag
mrzisawesome 1 year ago 2
@TheEzekiel300 you an opponent of mine, ha! your not even in my league son, and you must be smoking some extremely strong crack to think Goku is any match for Superman, i know all about DBZ-GT and DC / MARVEL etc... please dont make me have to school you on the many reasons why superman is far superior to goku, and it already seems that i won since you have no idea what you are talking about, Superman's strength on average is 40 Billion Tons, Goku in buu saga as SSJ only did 40 tons
TonyChronic420 1 year ago
@TonyChronic420 Superman average strength is a billion ton A. Then why does a human named lex luthor is his worst enemy? then their is the batman vs. superman debate. he cannot keep up with batman how can he keep up with Goku, who has zenkai. General grievous owned him. Amazons owned him. weak humans in robot suites owned him. He is always getting sucker punched. Faster than a speeding bullet? Big deal. Goku was dodging them as a kid. Superman does not even fight fast. Goku would dissapear onhim
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
how old are you 12 or something
dogkeeplookinatme 1 year ago
Well im not sure about all this Jewish stuff but, in a fight between Superman vs Goku, Superman wins hands down, and if anybody needs a lesson to be taught i'll be more then happy to school you on the facts of why superman will win
TonyChronic420 1 year ago
@TonyChronic420 No way! Superman is too slow land a punch on Goku! Goku is far stronger than superman! One blow would kill him, literally!
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
@TonyChronic420 YOUR RIGHT
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
@TonyChronic420 I am your opponent who would own you like I did jasenrooks2010!
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
tell ezekiel300 why superman would win
dogkeeplookinatme 1 year ago
@dogkeeplookinatme super man would win because he keeps on killing doomsday EVERY time doomsday trys to attack him goku dies 4 times and one is a by a planet blowing twice and super man got hit by two planets and still lived goku got hit by a rock and got hurt ( L0L )
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
no wonder u call urself a dog... i told you superman is for Scientific people, Goku at least fits into logic. Superman the only thing that made it interesting was its power. Goku was its power and epicness which he has in spades. Refute me if you want, i still think Goku will win anyway because Americans have a style that doesn't make anything epic
see0707 1 year ago
lol only a moron like yourself would think i would be calling myself a dog
im going to space the words in my account so you can understand what it says
dog keep lookin at me
what did you think it said let me know
dogkeeplookinatme 1 year ago
@see0707 Man! I agree! Superman just sits on his red butt! While goku trains himself and pushes his power to new heights!
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
@TheEzekiel300 MAN! I DONT AGREE BITCH YOU @HOLE
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
@jasenrooks2010 shouldn't you be racist against your own jewish super hero?Since, you know, your racist and all!
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
@TheEzekiel300 your an fucking asshole for the last time super ma nwould win
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
@jasenrooks2010 nope! he fights too slow!
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
well im done stating the same facts that you ignore top notch solid hard proof that superman has done things that no one in gokus world has ever done but if he does do something in the future let me know
dogkeeplookinatme 1 year ago
@dogkeeplookinatme ha! superman gets hit with people in robot suits! Has to pick up doomsday and burn him in the earths atmosphere when cell easily went through the earths atmosphere. Got hit with regular humans with power.
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
if your going to talk about cartoon superman and compare him to goku at his best than your a complete fucking retard goku is stronger than cartoon and movie superman but if you put the best and strongest from both sides goku WOULD BE NO FUCKING MATCH FOR SUPERMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
@jasenrooks2010 neh! Goku would wreck super mans lazy butt and his 20,000 power whore writers! That is his base form!
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
@TheEzekiel300 YEA RIGHT GOKU WOULD STILL LOSE
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
@jasenrooks2010 no he won't
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
@jasenrooks2010 Goku would own you, too! Your probably racist against krptonians and saiyans, too!
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
@TheEzekiel300 FUCL YOU BITCH SUPER MAN OWN YOU YOU FUCKER
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
@jasenrooks2010 He'd own you and your mom! Superman would own you, too, because you hate his real race the jews!
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
@TheEzekiel300 fuck you super man owned you and ya mom you ass nigger dick face yea grandma smells like bird shit just like yea dad did so super man wins ya bitch
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
@jasenrooks2010 Superman was created by two jewish guys! Why do you like when you are racist?
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
@TheEzekiel300 fuck off bitch who cares superman would still win
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
@jasenrooks2010 nope. he is too slow.
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
@TheEzekiel300 SHUT UP GOKU IS TO SLOW
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
@jasenrooks2010 Goku's energy would crush superman if he even got 100 yards of him!
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
@TheEzekiel300 shut up bitch again super man still would win
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
@jasenrooks2010 nope! he is just to slow and lazy!
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
@TheEzekiel300 no goku is to slow and lazy
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
@jasenrooks2010 well! actually superman is lazy with his 20,000 whore writers.
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
@TheEzekiel300 so who cares bitch
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
@jasenrooks2010 And white people should not even read comic books since it was the jews who created super man.
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
@TheEzekiel300 ugly people like goku and black people and you need to die ( not all black )
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
@TheEzekiel300 jewis is better then you...and goku
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
@jasenrooks2010 The japanese make better video games, heroes, and stories!
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
@TheEzekiel300 fuck Japanese ya bitch jewis is still better
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
@TheEzekiel300 and i don't give a shit
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
@jasenrooks2010 true you don't give a shit, but the fact remains Goku would own superman at base form! Goku>superman!
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
@TheEzekiel300 so you dont give a shit you bitch also super man would kick goku's ass and im done with you but it does not mean you win super man>goku
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
@jasenrooks2010 eh goku would speed fight that weakling! no superman vs. batman debates here. I see! LoL!
TheEzekiel300 1 year ago
@TheEzekiel300 so goku sucks goku would still lose you bitchtard
jasenrooks2010 1 year ago
@jasenrooks2010 Superman gets hit by everybody so sad everytime you turn around someone is owning him!