Copwatch Tallahassee- W. Call St 12/19/2008

[galegregory97comcast]

LOL

[Lchejoker]

keep doin what ya doin the ppl thank ya...we got the right to ask for their badge number!!!

[TheBGBstudio]

The guys shooting the video were being assholes, I thought the officer behaved quite well and restrained.

[theIEguy34]

Well...How common is common sense really? If 70% of American's used common sense we would all have free health care and education but we seem to think that the top 10% of our country (the wealthy) can decide what is best for everyone in the middle class and people living in poverty.Common sense tells me that if the middle class and poor stopped voting for Republicans whos only issue is to be fiscally responsible we would understand that a right to education and health care should be free.

[tmoallen]

@theIEguy34 Actually, common sense would tell us that $14 trillion in debt means we can't afford any more goodies. Education and health insurance cannot by definition be rights. Rights are individual and exist independent of government and society. They do not exist by taking from others, transfers of wealth and entitlements are. If that's what you want, fine, but don't call them rights. I agree that other officers should be charged. Accessory to murder is a crime. Noone should be above the law.

[theIEguy34]

@tmoallen Your talking to a dude who is sitting here trading the FOREX. I understand the world economy on a simplified level and can identify how were sitting inside a big ole game using the world currency exchange. Also nobody is taking from anyone, their asking that they pay their fair share...Why should be with more money at their disposal be able to pay less taxes than someone in the middle class who is living pay check to pay check? They should be paying the same rate as the middle class

[theIEguy34]

@theIEguy34 people*

[theIEguy34]

@tmoallen At the end of the day we do not live here forever so why make life more difficult than it needs to be? We have free energy floating all around us and we also have clean electric (AC) that can be used instead of (DC). Don't you see the influx in clean technology and solar panels? To be honest the wealthy are ripping us off...Just look at the price tags on some of the items it costs them 50 cents to make.

[theIEguy34]

@theIEguy34 Not to mention all of the American jobs that have been shipped overseas due to Bush's policies...Not that free market is bad...but using cheap labor and taking away from your Country is outright UN-AMERICAN to me.

[tmoallen]

@theIEguy34 I'm saying don't confuse your ideological wants with rights. I suppose they could sell for 50 cents whatever they make for 50 cents. Then not be able to pay the employees or taxes, stop maintaining the manufacturing plants, disregard safety, drop all employee benefits, spend nothing on technological research to develop that AC technology, forget about the stock holders that provide the capitol for it all, and have nothing to take home themselves either. That will work out great.

[tjsnaps]

In case you didn't notice their names and badge numbers are displayed on their name tag and badge pinned right in front of you on their shirt. Legal requirement satisfied

[Shady2viewer]

ah finnaly the moments when people see that 'copwatches' are shitheads who just trying to be smartasses challenging the law. bravo lads enjoy the lil hardons you get provoking police and trying to make them look bad see how you enjoy being filmed.

[xmarsxbarsx]

Florida right to privacy...look it up smart asses. The cops were doing the exact same thing you were doing...frankly, I would have knocked your asses out.

[theIEguy34]

Excellent video!!! On many occasions I have been harassed by the Police. They're all the same across the USA, and yet nothing is done. Cops work for the tax payers we do not work for them! Do you ever wonder why it takes NO COLLEGE DEGREE OR HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA TO BECOME A COP? BECAUSE THE "UN-EDUCATED" TEND TO NOT ASK SO MANY QUESTIONS WHEN ORDERS ARE GIVEN TO DIRECTLY CONTRADICT EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAVE LEARNED IN THE ACADEMY

[tmoallen]

@theIEguy34 I'm a big fan of copwatches, also a big fan of good law enforcement. I never wondered why it takes no college degree. Afterall, the Educated Idiot is a common animal. Colleges are meccas of irrational beliefs and political correctness. Sorry, that was reduntant. Your statement on the "un-educated" was ridiculously ignorant, but it may make you feel better about all that student loan debt. No high school diploma here, but I'm college educated. Weird, huh?

[theIEguy34]

@tmoallen My comment would be ridiculously ignorant if I was not talking from experience...How many years have you worked in the prison system? How many times have you been harassed by police officers for wearing the wrong "colors", and I say that to eliminate what the real reason was. I have been in trainings and have watched these same people teaching us in training going out and kicking someones face in, so please go somewhere with your baseless comments...thanks

[tmoallen]

@theIEguy34 Hehe. "harassed by police officers for wearing the wrong "colors", and I say that to eliminate what the real reason was. I have been in trainings and have watched these same people teaching us in training going out and kicking someones face in" all due to lack of a college education?! Again, that is ridiculously ignorant. Talk about baseless. You're digging yourself a hole, buddy. lol.

[theIEguy34]

@tmoallen So i see...Your a typical D head..You take one thing I say and try to make that my complete argument for why coward cops do what they do..Everything is linked to education and I'm not just talking about physical degrees that was just on a small level to get an idea of what I was talking about. Do you have an idea of what excessive force is? You have to be taught this right? How about being able to deal with anger and frustration as a cop? You have to be taught this right?

[theIEguy34]

@tmoallen Also, I see your replying because your clearly taking what I said personal...No its not weird that you have no high school diploma and a degree...I know lawyers with a GED...but again how many times have seen someone do something they did not want to do because they were too ignorant to understand that someone in a supervising role cant force you to abuse someone? Ive seen it...try going to the Louisiana Prison System and have a few conversations with inmates and correctional officers

[tmoallen]

@theIEguy34 Not personal, I just have no respect for those who believe college makes them superior. Clearly there are people under the delusion that college teaches you that "someone in a supervising role cant force you to abuse someone." Think about that. Common sense tells me that a high school dropout figured that out in high school. As I'm sure you know, Educated Idiots are everywhere. "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them."- George Orwell.

[theIEguy34]

@tmoallen Hey...I hope your watching the press conference on the Fullerton California cops who beat a homeless man to death..

[tmoallen]

@theIEguy34 No, I heard about it though and saw a video. It struck me as a homicide on the part of the police officers. Are they being charged?

[theIEguy34]

@tmoallen One of them are...You know what seems to be hilarious? If civilians would of done this same exact thing all of them would be getting charged with murder...The hypocrisy of our justice system...and this is what we accept? Outrageous!!

[TallahasseeLove850]

Haven't looked at this video on 2 years, but it appears that my comment has riled some cop haters. I would like to comment on how idiotic they are but I am sure they hear it everyday.

[donovanj2005]

All they do is try to start shit with cops and attempt to make them look like assholes. There was no need for this.

[the951racer]

It doesn't matter how long we argue back and forth or state our interpretations of the law. I pray that one day all of you COPWATCHERS do not have to cry out for the help of the very Officer's you have offended or caused problems with because u want to stick your little cameras everywhere. Yea yea I know you are all gonna say....it's to keep them accountable bla bla bla. You know what IA (Internal Affairs) and the very cameras in their patrol cars do that just fine oh and a little thing called

[deede1]

@the951racer I respect the law, and thank officers for the work that IS done, however, its not disrespect or "causing prolems when citizens want to excerise their rights. IA: only comes into effect when various complaints or higher powers makes them.. because if it wasnt for said cameras in place some bad officers would abuse the power they have even more. There are plenty cases where cameras are present, capture the infraction in par of the law, and yet justice isnt serve. Rights are rights.

[Supra257]

they are fucking dum all im going to say they need to read the law some more and for real come to washington dc or maryland with that attituded they would be in jail so fucking fast they wouldnt be able to run there mouth

[Supra257]

yall are fucking dum when a officer ask you to identify your self you have to and for real he could put you in jail for obstruction of justice for interfering with a police investigation and he does not have to identify his name but he does the police department he works for and the funny fucked you thing is all yall hate the police untill yall need them then yall want them to help yall every one needs to grow up and understand that yes there are bad cop and good cops get a life

[outdoorkunu]

Is this some kinf of power trip?

[jthompson323241]

Florida Statute 901.151 Stop and Frisk.

Those police officers were good cops. They could have easily taken you to jail if they wanted to just for not providing them with some sort of id , be it verbal or on paper. I personally don't agree with the stop and frisk law as i feel it does violate the constitution, but it is a law non the less.

[Stalicone]

@jthompson323241

You better re-read that law. The very first section of it demands that "Probable cause" exists before the Police can stop and frisk you. Videotaping public servants in public, in the performance of their duties does not constitute "probable cause" - In that case the right to not answer ANY questions, including questions of identity are still in force. A cop can't simply walk up to you and demand your identity or "Papers".. He can ask and you can refuse.

[eggman1975]

@Stalicone

Actually it says reasonable suspicion, it later states when probable cause is discovered, they shall be arrested. Guess you didn't learn to read in school. That is ok brother, it is all good.

[Stalicone]

@eggman1975

OK mr Egg, my legal definitions may have been wrong (I'm not a lawyer but I made sure I looked it up and learned the difference between "Probable Cause" and "reasonable suspicion"). What I discovered is that while my PHRASEOLOGY may have been wrong, my assertion is still correct regarding FL 901.151. VIDEO TAPING A POLICE OFFICER IS A PROTECTED ACTIVITY AND DOES NOT CONSTITUTE "REASONABLE SUSPICION!" There are you happy now you nitpicker?

[Stalicone]

@jthompson323241

From the law you cited, sub (2): (2) Whenever any law enforcement officer of this state encounters any person under

circumstances which reasonably indicate that such person has committed, is

committing, or is about to commit a violation of the criminal laws of this state or the

criminal ordinances of any municipality or county, the officer may temporarily detain

such person for the purpose of ascertaining

[Stalicone]

@jthompson323241

the identity of the person temporarily

detained and the circumstances surrounding the person's presence abroad which led

the officer to believe that the person had committed, was committing, or was about to

commit a criminal offense.

[reedleycopwatch]

the sad part is that these two morons are sergeants and should know better!!!! This is why he came out later and gave you his info because these two douche bags knew they were wrong!!!

[sakatak1580]

was that lady officer pam? those are the stupid cops that patrol university village trying to bust kids for underage drinking.

[bubbaroy73]

you are obligated to identfy yourself when asked. you guys might want to follow the law if you wanty police to do the same.

[brutallyhonest1000]

{eye roll} there's nothing worse than a couple of hippy college know it alls. The college know it all hippy is the worst form of all hippys. They think they're so smart when actually they don't know shit. What a nerd.LoL "You're actually obligated to tell me your name and badge number." bwahaha! He sounded like such a geek there. Listen you left wing liberal college kids with a part time job or no job. You contribute nothing to society. When you pay your own bills you get a say so in the world.

[reedleycopwatch]

@brutallyhonest1000 these guys have more educations than those two pigs put together dumb ass!!!

[GManKeepsltReaI]

What is "Cockwash" what group is this?

[reedleycopwatch]

@GManKeepsltReaI it's a group that shoves cocks up your mouth!!!LOL

[sweetamy189]

that was right up the road from where i used to live

[alienm34]

I would of grabed that coppas gun and kaBOOM.. Dats what i would of DUN

[coptzr231]

college kids.. geez

[maqnchs]

John smith ha!

[tranurse]

but, he's a state cop, not a city or county.

[phoenician7]

Dumb punks cowardly hide behind a video. What was the purpose of provoking the cops?

[jradonis1]

@phoenician7 I dont think that they are hiding. It seems that they are right out in the open.

[matthewlane]

See, thats just baiting the cops... Your asking for trouble doing that.

[weathermanfsu]

The officer does not have to tell you his name or his badge number at all. All he has to do is tell you he is a law enforcement officer (as it is obvious with the uniform, badge and gun). With you providing a false name when asked, that is an arrestable offense.

[soccerunites88]

The police officers didn't do anything wrong- the two boys in this video provoked them. Although I do believe that civil rights are important, I also think that difficult people like these boys aren't doing anything to advance those rights. They are being smart asses for the sake of being smart asses. If they truly cared about civil rights, they would invest their time into something less frivolous.

[rmf86]

as a general rule of thumb, dont antagonize police.

[ScottMacFie]

I'm a civil libertarian, and happen to be a career law enforcement officer. I fully support citizens holding law enforcement accountable. There is no reason that a law enforcement officer would have a problem providing that. Having said that, this particular officer did absolutely nothing wrong, and was respectful and polite. He provided his business card, which he does not have to do.

[snowbrdr200]

THe woman officer was wrong in this case. There was no probable cause of your wrong doing. As given by Brown v. Texas this court decision says that the person does NOT have to identify itself to police with fear of arrest unless there is probable cause, otherwise it violates the 4th amendment.

[weathermanfsu]

@snowbrdr200 Incorrect. There is probable cause signal 13p - suspicious person.

[macchef01]

you don't have to tell them your name but when you provide false Identification "john smith" they can take you in if they know you aren't who you just said you were

[chuckminsterabby]

hahah fags

[ErieParties]

I bet them cops are going to masturbate to them pictures later that night !!!!!!!!!!!

[ErieParties]

please research erie pa copwatch

[rob23molina]

Cops sure don't like the shoe on the other foot or up their ass. Funny how they never give their names or badge numbers almost seems suspicious.

[Armylife92]

Get a life.

[jhweather]

@Armylife92 What do you mean by that? You should see the significance of these civil activists. These people fight for our rights. CopWatch deters police misconduct. How would you like if a police officer broke into your car without probable cause or consent and no arrest was made. I am grateful for these TRUE American citizens. After all, our Founding Fathers created the Constitution for the people. They saw the dangers of uncontrolled government and federal powers.

[chitownnatural]

search tallahassee chap lip 2 c a cartoon that tells u all u need 2 know about florida

[eamonob84]

Nice try, but Wilson v. Arkansas said that officers have to announce and identify themselves when conducting SEARCH WARRANTS. Not if someone with a camera walks up to them and demands their name and badge number.

[eamonob84]

The officer is NOT legally obligated to tell you his name and badge number.

Leave the cops alone and get a fucking life losers. Why harass the cops?

[Aaron3636]

yeah keep pretending everything is alright. must be a pig. oink oink.

[RSRNV]

WRONG ! Federal law requires ALL law enforcement officers to identify themselves by last name & badge number. Police however need Reasonable Articulable Suspicion that a crime has been committed to detain a citizen. In States where there is a Stop & identify law you must simple give your NAME, you don't have to show ID or even carry ID. If you are driving and stopped it is different then a stop walking down the road and you must produce licence, registration & Insurance proof.

[eamonob84]

Then you wouldn't mind citing which federal law that is, would you? Might be kind of hard to find, since it doesn't exist. Feel free to look, though.

[RSRNV]

Actually according to the United States Supreme Court ruling in Wilson v. Arkansas, 514 US 927, 934 (1995) The Civil Rights Act among others REQUIRE law enforcement officers to identify themselves. Law enforcement is not allowed to operate as secret KGB type "officers".

The Court also affirmed your Constitutional Rights to face your accuser in several rulings that apply to officers. So no we don't have secret police here in the United States, when we do it's time to shoot them on sight.

[COPWatchersNetwork]

@RSRNV No where in that does it pertain to a police officer announcing their personal name, only that they are the police and they are at your door.

I do however agree that in most location they must present upon request though though hours of searching I have yet to find such a law, yet, but there is no federal law regulating it, it would be left to the states to decide.

[Supra257]

@COPWatchersNetwork ALSO IT IS A FEDERAL OFENCE TO FALSIFY ANY INCLUDING YOU NAME TO A POLICE OFFICER. WHAT THEY DID WAS WRONG BECAUSE HE WAS INVESTIGATING SOME THING AND WHERE THEY WERE THEY WERE INTERFERING IN A POLICE INVESTIGATION WITCH IS AGINST THE LAW AND COULD HAVE ARRESTED THEM FOR THAT AND PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN WHAT THEY CAN AND CANT DO.

[Supra257]

@RSRNV see hears th thing a officer has to tell you his last name and department he works for when he pulls you over then he only has to tell the department he works for when he does a search warrent he DOESNT HAVE TO TELL YOU HIS FIRST LAST AND BAGE NUMBER IF HE DOESNT WANT TO IT IS HIS OPTION TO DO IF HE WANTS BUT YOU HAVE TO WHEN YOU ARE ASKED BY ANY COP IN THE US IT IS THE LAW AND HE COULD HAVE ARRESTED THEM FOR FAILLING TO GIVE THERE CORRECT NAME

[K3N7CR1P3]

If you think copwatch is wrong, please watch:

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I think it may change your point of view.

[marcorp1]

Why harass the cops? You may not like them, but they have a job to do. To be sure, you can find better things to do with your time?

[jhonston666]

Don't Look at it as Harassment,look at it as Exercising your Rights.You wait,one day you may be personally involved with Police Infringing on your Rights.Then you go ahead and zip your lips and let them walk on you..Wake Up.

[oakadoak1]

You all should have been arrested for L&P. Do you think that a reasonable and prudent citizen would be on a dark street at night filming like that?  If the officer cannot dispel his or her fear that you did not commit a crime, are committing a crime, or will commit a crime then off to jail you go. With the super conservative judicial circuit in Leon County, you will probably get 364 days in jail. Please read up on your statutes and state constitution before you try and lecture people.

[thesparitan]

so you know what a prudent person should be doing is that what you are saying interesting. its called the constitution and freedom i know wierd liberal stuff. north korea is still hiring i think check it out

[oakadoak1]

I'm an attorney and defend douche bags everyday for the same shit. Last time I checked, Taco Bell was hiring. Check it out!!

[HHODork]

Pigs in the farm.

[19jody72]

So why did the two officers show up and start taking you guys pictures?They acted like a bunch of cock suckers!

[Armylife92]

I'd freaking love it if he would take his taser and light your butt up! Get a life.

[redfinned]

Is that the best you can do? Tell them to put an edit button on the page. Besides, you obviously got my point.

[redfinned]

Hey assholes. These same 2 cops on Sturday night caught 3 felony sujects who just comitted an armed robbery in the same appartments and recovered the property and took the gun off the street. So before you badmouth what we do for a living maybee you should think that it could be you who needs our help one day. Remember when others like you are running away we are runs who are running into the danger zone. Think about that before you want to badmouth our tactics.

[blueliner24]

Hey, Red....how the hell did you ever graduate the academy with YOUR spelling abilities? Or, lack thereof.

[ErieParties]

I would love for a cop to take my picture as I video them.

[N2thedrink]

good work guys

[mymichele79]

Police harass the public... so it's nice to see someone harassing them.

[judasplow25]

Shitbag police intimidation and doublespeak evasive tactics.

You can bet your ass they wouldn't have been that nice if you were alone and without a camcorder.

[ArranoGris]

Why are you guys out just randomly filming beat-cops like this? I can understand why "copwatch" is important, especially when it comes to things like protests, etc but...seriously. Not saying you SHOULDNT do it, but why are you? Aren't there better battles to fight?

[hjgardner79]

quit being pricks. leave the police alone, they have enough trouble with all of the losers, deadbeats and gangbangers in Tallahassee without having to worry about liberal jackasses like you getting in their faces.

[mindprism]

-- quit being pricks. leave the police alone

I would think the police would be eager and grateful for the opportunity to demonstrate their professionalism and integrity -- that is, if they were fundamentally good people.

But alas, instead they squirm and hiss like little demons.

[hjgardner79]

The police demonstrate their professionalism and integrity everyday. These are just a bunch on whining liberal punks.

[ramrod132]

We need people to observe police, but if you arent professional about it, you are just a jackass with a video camera. If you stop trying to be a jackass and just document what the cops do, you might make something useful. As for knowing your rights and the law, when a cop asks you to identify yourself it is illegal not to or to give a false name, and it is very stupid to break the law while being a jackass to a cop. That being said, post another vid, hopefully it will be better.

[FlawlessVictory88]

I have class with this kid. Yeah.

[cookdawg53]

You all need to find something better to do with your time, maybe we will get to see a video of the cops beating the little punks that made this video....get a life,,,,,,these Police Officers put them selves in harms way to protect idiots like you everyday,,,,and trash like you is thier reward,,oh and the 30k salary......Someone should start an idiot watch and follow you morons around.

[abbadabba1116]

When you say something about these men being young would you like them to be 30 and doing this? no, they're guys with ambition, respect them

[bhanleyjr]

Conceptually this can work; however, very poor opening video footage - childish even. I would go after abuse of resources rather than abuse of power. Like those times when their is like fifteen cop cars on the sceen for one traffic stop...

[nergis65]

what are you guys doing to help the cops get these punks off the street that are commiting car jackings and robberies? GET OUT OF THEIR FACES....get a fucking life.....too many criminals and not enough cops to get rid of them....assholes...

[TheGiantDildoFucker]

These dildoes "copwatch" need to get fucked up the ass. maybe that what they do when they go out, eating shit out of each other assholes

[TallahasseeLove850]

You guys really need 2 find something better to do.

Please tell me wats ur reason 4 this.

[bhxinfected]

@TallahasseeLove850 Um, because they fuckin' want to? Period. People don't need some type of special justification for observing public servants.

[KennyBoo08]

@TallahasseeLove850 to make ur DUMB ass write what you wrote, any more questions?

[deede1]

@KennyBoo08 get em. lol

[deede1]

@TallahasseeLove850 im assuming prevention of incrimination

[wrigleyavery]

My tax dollars pay these police officers to protect and serve the public, not to get harrassed by a couple of PUNKS with a video camera.

[fabricatedpain]

This is amazing. Why are so many people getting pissy about them questioning police officers? They are no better than any other citizen. As those hired to "uphold the law" and "protect the citizens" then they should be questioned everystep of the way. Video cameras work both ways- they have them in their cars to tape drunk drivers, why would anyone have a problem with cops getting video taped? Cops don't just get to do whatever they want because they are cops. They should have standards too...

[justkillintime]

this is a douchebag 1st semester community college group ouyt of tallahassee community college. Little shits.

[Silverb0208]

I wish I had nothing better to do than follow around and bother police officers all night long.

Get a job, tell mommy and daddy that you can now finally support yourselves and do something productive.

[ValkirieVF44]

Dude that was horrible. You better do some research and be able to quote a source when you start claiming "Rights". That was nothing more than attempting to bait the cops into doing something.

The cops you showed deserve praise for handling such crap with professionalism.

[mystryj]

how come you guys get mad when the govt. watches you??

[eggman1975]

Considering "reportingpoliceabuse's" poor handle of the English language, and the fact that he has yet to post any proof, names etc...., or the fact that he lied claiming there is a Florida Statute that requires an officer to give his name and ID, I am thinking that he is a UF transplant.

That being said, LOL, everyone point their finger at him and laugh.

Get a life dude, seriously. Quit spending Daddy's money and make something of yourself.

[Rob08GT]

Lol @ failing to get a rise out of the Officers. "I know my rights", why don't you grow up and stop harassing cops. Copwatch is a group of prepubescent children.

[reportingpoliceabuse]

These to morons went back to the PD and found the statute that obligates them to tell the people who pay their wages their names and or badge number and had to come back out to give the citizens who pay their wages his business card. IDIOTS!!!!! Great job

[cmorrow132]

LOL. I love the way the cops are mocking them by taking pictures with cameras.

These kids are idiots.

"You are refusing to give me your badge number..." duhrr - you refused to give them your name to begin with.

[reportingpoliceabuse]

Have you forgotten that this is America and the police work for the people you moron!!!

[NOLAPersaetus]

Fatkitty420, where in florida state statute does it say an officer must identify themselves? You're confusing department policy and state law.

[bigjudah500]

retards! you guys are messing with the very people that keep you safe. GET A JOB!!!!!!

[agat0r]

"with the very people that keep you safe."

Hogwash. They don't "protect and serve". They harrass and generate income. I am thrilled to see people holding them accountable.

[lollerization]

HAHA IS THIS CHAD AND JOSH?

[eggman1975]

LOL, whoever is behind the camera is a complete moron. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that if an officer is attempting to make identification during a routine investigation, (i.e. dumbass with camera filming him for his terrorist activity, harassment, trespassing on Royal Properties etc... you know what you were doing), you are legally obliged to provide correct information relating to your identification. You are lucky he didn't arrest you, What a MORON, lmao. He let you go way too easily.

[HonorSHarrington]

And he didn't bust you for giving false information about your name.

[reportingpoliceabuse]

You are an idiot homeboy because we do not have royal property in America and we have every GOD given right created by our founding fathers to question public servants!!!

[snowbrdr200]

@eggman1975 Please provide that citation instead of just saying "The supreme court ruled..."

[eggman1975]

@snowbrdr200 it was part of the Brown Vs Texas Decision

[eggman1975]

@snowbrdr200 In Brown V Texas, if there an officer can articulate the suspicion of illegal activity in specifics (idiot with camera casing an area, loitering and prowling, curfew, etc......) Then as part of the investigation the suspect must identify himself.

Go to the U.S. Supreme Court website and look at their majority opinion,

[matthewlane]

@eggman1975 exactly right.

[the951racer]

@eggman1975 you are exactly 100% correct....you MORONS need to learn a little more about the laws and RIGHTS OF POLICE before you go around trying to get your 15 seconds of fame. You (camera man and his laugh happy buddy) are completely ignorant and lucky the Officer didn't lock you up for GIVING FALSE INFORMATION TO A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. That is your.....to get locked up for being a dumbass. LOL

[Stalicone]

@the951racer

True - on the "Lying" to a police officer...IT IS ILLEGAL TO GIVE FALSE INFORMATION TO A POLICE OFFICER. It is not illegal to just "stay silent".

[Stalicone]

@the951racer

Ummm - I'm sorry since we are all being douchebags and anal retentive cocksuckers here (Well led by the fabulous Mr Egg Sucker...Police Officers do not have RIGHTS - certainly not any more or less rights than you and I. Police officers have POWERS and those POWERS are limited by your RIGHTS.

[deede1]

@Stalicone well said

[samala5793]

@eggman1975 Ummm...no. Videotaping police officers is LEGAL.

Probable Cause: A reasonable belief that a person has committed a crime.

Reasonable Suspicion:an objectively justifiable suspicion that is based on specific facts or circumstances and that justifies stopping and sometimes searching (as by frisking) a person thought to be involved in criminal activity at the time.

Cop had neither, therefore no legal justification to stop the man behind the camera.

[RealBigPair]

@eggman1975 ur a fucking idiot

[Stalicone]

@eggman1975

Please tell me exactly what Supreme Court case you are referring to. Because my understanding is that you can remain silent and refuse to answer any questions at all. What law or case law REQUIRES you to answer ANY question posed by a Police officer? And by the way. since this is an American cop, PLEASE PLEASE tell me what "ROYAL PROPERTIES" the camera man could possibly be trespassing on? Sounds to me like the MORON IS YOU!

[eggman1975]

@Stalicone

ummm... moron, read all the previous posts. Then go back to your eleventh grade English. By the way, the name of the company that owned the apartments is Royal Properties. Douche well my friend.

[Stalicone]

@eggman1975

Hey Cum breath, It's YOUR lousy english that confused people here. You said "Royal Properties'" not "Royal Properties' property" Do you understand the difference? Or are you just Cum drunk?

[tallyfla58]

Tallahassee cops must do their jobs pretty well if this is the worst that you can get on them. You sounded like children trying to pick a fight; this is a total yawn.

[tallyfla58]

Is this the worst you can get on Tallahassee cops? Lame, guys! Yawn!

[gumby42d]

Yeah that was FDLE Capital Police. Their not the Police to be messing with. Their not as optimistic as other agencies. And as a LEO if they didn't pull you over or placing you with a crime they don't have to give you their name or badge number, that's a misconception that a lot of people have. It's a personal safety issue. If some one asks me I give it to them it's polite and shows courtesy.

[abbadabba1116]

their is possesive, THEY'RE would be the correct form

[IronMan569]

While I agree with pressing cops to make sure they adhere to the same laws that govern the people they're sworn to protect... But the next time you guys decide to give something as "law" or "right" you should be prepared to back this up with the statute, or somewhere in the penal code which dictates what you're demanding.

[jakebp]

Boy, you guys are really going about this the right way. Sure glad you're keeping the streets safe.

[Smarterdanu]

They are't legally obligated to give you their name and badge number. Some police departments have a policy of giving the information when requested. I'd suggest trying to research your department's policies, but likely it isn't a requirement there at least in such an instance as this.

[fatkitty420]

Actually, as public officials, the police are legally obligated to provide name and badge number when on duty. It's stated in their Patrol Guide/Public Contract. As long as an officer is acting as a public official they have to give name/badge number. Our tax money is paying them, after all.

[Smarterdanu]

A Patrol guide is not a legal document. It's a department policy. Not all departments have such policies. It also isn't typically black and white if they do have such a policy.