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  • der singt scheiße (live)

    

  • bet that's how hot the concert was...

  • CHRISTIAN OLDE WOLBERS !!!! BRUTAL RIFFS !!!!

  • I saw them 4 times live, between 2007-2011 and his voice never really was good, but I think burton rocks anyway. He "sings" with passion and thats what matters!!!

  • @blacksoul1 hell yeah,and they were probably the first using clean and dirty vocals together,and his dirty vocals are really good !

  • It's not bad singing, it's sing in the bass tones. Sounds different in studio because he probably uses some technics to get to the higher pitch.

  • excellent camera. :) five stars ***** I'd go see em anyday. seen em Portland Oregon. was an awesome show.. oh shit yeah. when he wants to belt it out, he does.

  • O_O @ the vocals.

    I know that the Transgression album didn't get much love but damn what way to spoil one of the decent tracks off of it.

  • This album was at-least 2/3 days before my birthday 24th August I was gutted that it didn't came out on my birthday :(

  • @jr240891 hey same birthday, right around the corner

  • I'm fucking love FF!!!

  • I guess he had a bad return from his voice or whatever...

  • We really are the most dedicated fans in the world, not many other people would be able to put up with that singing.

  • @jackow1986 It's a tough song to sing and he does it well here. If you were there live you wouldn't know the difference, the cheeer of the crowd sums it up. I'm not one of these wannabee fans you speak for, you've probably never bought an album in your life. Let's face it you probably only discovered FF in the past 5 years. You're a pretender, I'm a true fan. FO.

  • @ryanblkops Yea mate saw them at London Astoria in 2001, So you might wanna try again you fucking MUG!!! Your just another youtube warrior showing what a fucking CUNT he is, then again you're an aussie so it comes naturally to you!!!!

  • They are so much better live now

  • hahahahaha my god Burton

  • Poor Burton.. :(

  • @TheDrummingClown Poor Burton? You're the fucking clown,

  • @ryanblkops I was in no way dissing Burton.. i was kidding around saying poor Burton because everyone picks on him for his live voice.. Burton is one of my heroes and I met him in person, one of the nicest guys i've ever met and one of the best live singers out there.

  • sounds like a rusty knife scratching against a plate

  • Hey, I love 'em and all, but the singing here, damn. :(

  • @BlueOceanBelow I'm sick of nobodies like yourself commenting negatively on such a great band. This performance is solid, if you were there you wouldn't know the difference. Wake up to yourself.

  • omg what the hell was that? its like hes given up and got stoned, drunk, started a fight and then got punched in the throat. they better be better live when i see them for the mechanized tour XD

  • omg, horrible singing.

  • Dude, not to be a dick or anything, but he royally fucks up the lyrics in this video haha

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  • 2:45!!!! YEAH!!!

  • The new stuff is pretty shit, not the same band without Dino. They kicked arse on the demanufacture and obsolete tours. This is no where near as good. Bring back Dino!

  • Your probably the only one who feels this way. You can thank Dino and Roadrunner for Digimortal.

    That was the stripped down and simple riffing, lack of intensity on the music.

    Since Dino was bounced, FF have gotten back to what they were about. Archetype and Transgression are both ten times better than Digimortal will ever be.

  • lol if you read a few interviews you will find out that christian was the main reason for digimortal and you can also read that christian is more money driven cuz why the hell would dino slap something together did you hear divine heresy?? brujeria , asesino or early FF i honestly imo dont hear any shitty riffs from him and digimotal isnt his style thats more christians

  • Brujheria I will give you. But I am not 100% positive Dino was the primary song writer.

    It does not mean that Dino wasn't influenced by the korn sound and wanted to dumb the music down to make it more palatable.

    I know Roadrunner was pressuring them to do it since Slipknot came along. Why do you think they kick some bands off their label?

    If a band does not sell what they think they should they get booted. The same thing happened to 3 Inches of Blood, and Century Media was happy to sign them.

  • well, but christian was also the main writer for archetype. and that is - without a doubt - the best fear factory record besides demanufacture...

  • Hell Yeah...Agreed

  • i didnt enjoy archetype as much, was still good but demanufacture pwns. besides, mechanise will destroy xD

  • Dipshit. Everything went soft too without Dino shouldn't ya know. Especially Burton man, Dino brings out the wickedness in FF. Their debut was bliss, bonecrushing and chilly.

  • The Burt has improved a lot since SOANM. Back then his voice sounded strained all the time.

  • I agree with everyone. There is no point slagging his live voice when you realised how much strain he puts it under to hit the clean notes. His harsh vocals are always bang on.

  • Actually, I think it has to do with his gear. One of Burton's big hooks in his music is his vocal distortion in his clean licks. Unlike guys like Warrel Dane, who use simple delay effects and the like to clean up the sound, Burton purposefully alters his voice in recording to fit with the musical style.

    He doesn't use these effects live. True, they'd be hard to reproduce, but that's the sound difference. It isn't about skill, he's pretty good. He just doesn't use any effects live.

  • Raventroll I think you're wrong.

    Burton simply uses a flanger effect in studio and he hits the notes in studio.

    Live he sounds simply flat: He can't hit the notes at all and that has absolutely zilch and zero to do with effects: It's about being able to sing or not. He could take lessons but I guess he simply doesn't give a shit. It's ok by me, I love FF anyway.

  • He was better in the old days. His voice is worn- give him a break. :l

  • dude, lessons wouldnt help this guy, the way he screams destroys your clean voice, it just does. There are safer ways of screaming, but nothing that sounds as badass as what he already does, so its a trade-off, really.

  • damn true, and thats why there will never be another fear factory cuz them pussys posers cant touch burtons style it, like a fckn real metal man

  • aside from like guitarists and bases having there fingures hurt after playing all these shows i say singing has definitely the most strain out of all band instruments, and being able to play all of these, singing is the hardest to maintain and drumming doesnt get to bad playing shows its just the fact of making it not boring, so even though he wasnt hitting some of these notes im not comlaining and neither should anyone, id probley be talking normaly after all that instead of singing haha

  • Metal up our asses!!!!!!!!

  • the lyric on this video is wrong lol

  • good song

  • Vocals are not so bad, i think. They are not perfect here, but really give a song some cool live edge. He needs to give his throat a rest

  • well he usually goes all out on studio stuff cause they arent touring and doesnt need to really rest it. He wouldnt be able to sing studio style every single night on tour, kind of has to pick and choose where to grunt.

  • I saw these guys in Perth, AU for the very first time back in 2006. Burton sang exactly the same til he started screaming. He did have sum voice cracks through the show. Shit it didnt matter. It was fucking FF! Myself and alot of other fans knew that Burton gave his all in other shows b4 that show. Just goes to show you that being a lead vocalist aint always perfect. Just so some of ya'll whom think his singing sucks. Why dont ya'll try singing at shows every fuckin night for 2or so months!

  • Are you FF Fans?? So Fuck off the Live Voice!!

  • fucking badd ass

  • the new album comes out in 09.

  • they dont ''hook his mic up to synth''. its a little more complicated than that. on the records, the keyboards tend to play the melody lines of the chorus, which burton also signs. burton is usually lower in the mix. live, obviously its harder the balance.

  • Burton's clean vocals are terrible here. Really bad. He actually sounds sick. Maybe he had a bad cold or something. Maybe he has a bad cold all the time these days, since his singing has been pretty bad lately.

  • To be fair though...the amount of growling and drink hes had over the years, you can't blame him for having not so great clean vocals live

  • Their backdrop is sick!

  • yes he forgot the lyric LOL

  • this is quite good song from their last album. even christian wasnt satisfied with it. still its a nice song

  • That's bollocks, Burt simply has no technique, and that's why his melodic vocals tend to be different live. It's got nothing to do with alternating growling and clean singing, because in Ascension of the Watchers he sings clean all the way through and he sounds just as bad. But I think that's great! He's got a great voice regardless and rock isn't opera!

  • burton doesn't sound bad by any stretch of the imagination. but i do agree burton lacks technique, which as he is getting older is causing him to loose power. but saying burton sings bad in ascension of the watchers is insane, listen to moonshine, evading, mars becoming... his melodic vocals sound amazing. and what he lacks in technique, he more than makes up for in tone and style. no one sings like him, which makes him incredibly unique.

  • There was always a side of me that couldnt stand FF, but there was also a side I didnt quite enervate to.

  • This is nowhere near as bad as some posts have been saying. The sound quality sucks anyway, I bet if you were there it would sound fucking monsterous. I do have to agree Burtons clean vocals sound weaker than they used to (and he forgets the lyrics....lol) but try screaming for 16 years and see what it does to your voice. His agressive vocals are top notch still, much better than many singers 10 years younger than him. Have you heard Corey Taylor's voice these days, notice a change there too?

  • Exactly. It starts out a little weak, but this is what song in the set list? He's thrashing hard and that takes more stamina than most of these posters here even have, let alone singing and growling like that on top of it.

    I've seen them live twice and they were AWESOME. This even gets better as it goes on and you get used to it, if you give it a chance.

    People just think they are cool by hating, that's all there is to it.

  • Where'd yah see them??

  • He used to be able to sing his clean vocals somewhat in tune back then... He can growl alright, but goddamn I'm cringing whenever there's clean vocals... He sounds like someone's drunk dad, ffs.

  • "He sounds like someone's drunk dad, ffs." XD i fallen off the chair from laughing.

  • @FeroxX Your a smelly dirty asshole,your a turd,i now call you turdy,flies live on you turdy,eat you mr turdy,go back to your basement turdy

  • @FeroxX You're a knob

  • shut up

  • Burton C Bell used to to be able to sing clean very well. Just watch the videos from around the Demanufacture/Obsolete era and you'll see.

    It's fairly simple really, he's just well and truly fucked his voice by screaming on stage for 15 years. So therefore, his clean vocals have suffered.

  • Not true he can sing very well in Ascension Of The Watchers, they heal up after a while

  • I think we can all agree that Burton C Bell is no Warrell Dane, but Fear Factory's style makes it difficult for Burton to synthesize his vocals like most other singers do (chorus, fade, and whatnot). His alternation between the singing and growling (which DOES sound exactly like the studio) makes it difficult to process that with vocal distortion.

    If they could get him a distortion pedal wired with all that, he'd be gold. And thrashing that hard gets you out of breath real quick.

    FF FOREVER!

  • I agree!

  • i hate to say this but burton is probably studio work considering the difference between live n cd

  • he looks like danzig haha

  • i was at this mother trucking gig, it fucking ruled XD

  • he needs to take better care of his voice.

  • I fucking love Fear Factory. Yeah...it is fucking hard to sing this and additional Burton had a bad day because he made many better performances.

  • \m/

    Outstanding performance by Burton

  • Brutal video!

  • i fucking love fear factory to death!!! it bums me out pretty hard to see burton like this.I don't know his circumstances but i think he needs to look after himself abit better ie not ripping into the rider before the show. I don't wanna analyse too much but i left a fear factory show in sydney last time they were there a little dissappointed. anyway, all hail fear factory... they still are a big part of my life!!!!!

  • do you have more songs from this concert?

  • Is this Gigantour or whatever it's called?

  • This is why they call him Human Machine. Straight, perfect and precise moves. Like Machine!

  • raymond is god. double bass.... wow!

  • I LOVE THEM!!

  • Great quality!

  • i recon his vocals are better better

    burton fkn rocks

    do linchpin :) lol

  • The high clean vocals seem a bit messed up, but the low grunting/growling stuff is awesome. And the rest of the band are awesome too.

    Great song.

  • Fuck you man, fuck you.

    Burt's vocals are good in this. They always are.

  • Burton is gawd. suffer.

  • I am assuming this band is a better band to hear on CD rather than live? Vocals seem pretty messed up. He either doesn't know how to take care of his voice or is just a plain bad singer. I am hoping the first one is the problem.

  • If he would just put some chorus on his live vocals it would be fine. Most singers do, but I can understand the integrity of performing without effects.

  • sentinel's right. I've seen footage of their comeback without Dino at BDO 04 and his vox were really good. I guess their all just worn out after 2 closely released albums and relenless touring.

  • Fear Factory are the best band

    Burton just needs to get a few clean voice lessons, even warming up like to a tape like Hetfeild from Metallica (i know they suck not but Burton wont change his ways like stupid metallica)

  • i was there!this was the show in milan!!!amazing

  • This song is better live can't wait to see them again in LA

  • raymond is the best !!!

  • you guys gotta remember the songs FF are incredibly hard to sing. They have been touring nonstop for the past year. There is a dark bodies video and descent video here somewhere and he nails the vocals nearly flawlessly. Every concert I went to he starts off rough but by the third song he's fine

  • fuking great except for Burton having an off night. :/ too bad, he's really awesome sometimes, and other times he just sucks.

  • great performence!!!! fear factory ruls!!

    too bad about the vocals. Burton had a poor start, but recovered towards the end of the song. the second part was definetly better. anyway, great band, great song, great performance !! \m/ \m/ \m/

  • I agree with this guy here he has a good taste in music and bands

  • great performance from the band, sloppy vocals from Burton (as usual). sad but true.

  • Give Burt some time and the song will be amazing live.

    By the way, nice footage!

    I'll search for the entire set!

  • Saw Fear Factory live in Amsterdam, it rocked but...

    The dude cant sing the high clean parts live, sorry to say but its true.

    The screaming / grunting vocals were kickass though! And the concert rocked!

  • THAT IS KICK ASS!!!! I wonder we can get the whole concert

    Cheers Jostodon \m/

  • nice performance! you got anymore of that?

  • No, just one.

  • damn, that would have been awesome, oh well.

  • Yo yur the same guy from FFforums.com, eh

  • yeah I am

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