Evil does not exist and hate only exists because people believe in evil. Please stop calling and thinking of things that are bad as "evil". It doesn't exist. I really wish that this thought comes through to as many people as possible. I don't want to see more unnecessary hate and suffering in the world.
what you learn in childhood and how you react to what you have learned and developed with present situations will determine what your good and evil choices are in the society you live in. Good and evil are relative. Is it good to eat dogs in the USA, no. In China is it perfectly fine to eat dogs there, yes. So are they "evil" to you. childhood deprevation leads to adult compensation. so when one chooses to do evil in their society they are a bad
I resent the fact that TED removed the most graphic images. Stop trying to protect us from reality! I think that to this day the public doesn't really know what went on there. How can we prevent ourselves from doing this again if we are not aware of the full extent of what we are capable of as a species?
I meant it often happens from my experience as a follower of Christ is people become Christian because they did bad things and after becoming Christians they look for every opportunity to help others and sacrifice their time an self
The internet is growing exponentially! His google "evil" results were 136 million hits in .33 of a second. today, nearly 3 years later, my google "evil" results are 757 million hits in .07 seconds.
I don't believe in good or evil is just people perception of whats what. I bought Philips book great book but i still don't believe in good nor evil its still on peoles perception
@darkness442003 Yeah, the thing is "What do people perceive as both?" One's idea of evil could be someone's idea of good. For example the Holocaust. Everyone knows that it was bad, but for 'some' German people it was in fact good, because at the time Germany was in the state of economic crisis and Hitler helped them. No, I'm not trying to advocate Nazism or what not. I just think it is the perception of POWER that leads us into thinking and acting that those ways.But that's never going to change
@MrRageQuitter Power your talking about is that power of conformity, to be clear following orders. Hitler was a powerful influence this shows humankinds weakness to be swayed by such a weak person. Another example of power of influence in Obama i never believed his speeches are nothing but hot hair i told everyone i did not trust him people called me evil no look at them now. This why good and evil are so unimportant to put stock in
@VoxPopuli666 Or, perhaps you're biased in your political views and chose to demonize good people due to their political outlooks? I'm fairly right wing and believe in all personal freedoms to the extent that they don't hurt people.. right wing doesn't mean religious, as I'm atheist..
Rumsfeld gave the okay!! Zimbardo has his 'theory' and he is entitled. But to go public with it without the correct facts is perpetrating falsehood. And for those who do not know the facts will believe him. Truly I hope not everyone believes him. Much of what he says, to me, is not common sense.
The military members who violated prisoners were trained on torture techniques and were given the okay to use them. One need only do some thorough research to read the facts. We all have choices. I would rather face court marshall than to commit acts of humiliation or violence against a fellow human being. THERE IS ALWAYS A CHOICE even when a gun is held to one's head, the choice is do the dirty deed or die. My choice would be - "shoot me".
Interesting. But I do not agree totally. Two contentions - One: Lucifer was not God's favorite angel, nor was he ever considered the morning star. Two; his comment about God not doing a good job of keeping evil in hell. An imperfect man judging God is like shooting oneself in the foot. IF people turn evil, given certain circumstances, then explain to me why captives of middle east terrorists did not turn evil during or after captivity.
@inhisgrace007 Well, your research is based on a subjective book written by man, so you are the perfect example of a human being under the influence of mind control. Have a nice day.
@AgentxAnonymous It seems redundant to argue with you because it is about decision. Your choice to believe in what you believe and it's my choice to back off from what you believe and just not accept your POV. I mean your view has to be shaped by something and that is what means 'being under the influence of mind control'. Well not in the major sense of mind control but maybe environmental influence.
@AgentxAnonymous My decision to back off shows direct similarities to the other people who watched the guy jump off the train tracks to save the other guy.
@inhisgrace007 Interesting viewpoint. However, Lucifer "means" morning star. Not "considered" the morning star. Question: Do you personally know the captives? The point of the video is "circumstances" combined with the person's perception under those circumstances will influence people in the "choices" they make.
Very interesting. One contention - Lucifer was not God's favorite angel, nor was he ever considered the morning star. I do not believe, personally, all people, given a certain set of circumstances, would do evil. Why? By believing there is always a choice even if only there are only two choices.
When I saw the picture at 1:23 I immediately saw the world of demons, and even after he mentioned there were angels, I had trouble noticing them... I hope this isn't a sign of any underlying psychological issues.
So the Luciferian way to be devious is to diffuse evil in such a way that "what" are those things to be responsible upon is not known and "who" should be responsible on cannot be identified. Is that the gist of it?
Everyone needs to see this. Very well presented. Its funny because I just had a hour debate with my sis about this very topic. To say the least she falls into the "passive" state.
I think he should stop using the term "evil" to describe violent or cruel acts. People often equate the term "evil" with a malevolent, invisible force ~ other than a decision. It might misinform.
this is super important. I would love to talk negatively after this and talk about all the "righteous people" and "normal people" to blame. But I will go only this far. If any of you want things different, you have to, like Zimbardo said, not be afraid to act out.
That takes time to learn. Our human instinct is to not stick out, follow what everyone is doing. Evil spreads that way. It's ok if it doesn't work out at first... learn, and break the cycle. I hope everyone can do that.
An example of anonymity and lack of a defined set of rules and leadership is the Threat Fusion Centers popping up all over America. Their Stasi-like tactics of placing people on watch lists because they were seen in a political rally or supporting Ron Paul is frightening. If this is the beginning, what happens when they turn up the voltage?
The statistical rise in “evil” acts when anonymity is introduced is very interesting to me. During the protests of the G20 in Pittsburgh, most of the police were not wearing name tags or badges. Many of them were wearing helmets which covered their faces. There are many YouTube videos of those police beating and abusing innocent protesters.
i see the biggest experiment in human history in video games like grand theft auto, u give a nice kid the game and he ends up blowing up cops and innocent civilians, very interesting video
Power is the key word here. When I researched this atrocity, I found out that England was being abused by her boyfriend. Putting people into a situation like this is going to end badly, because of a thirst for power.
I'm very adamant follow of Zimbardo. In fact, I have his autographed stored and actually received a hug from him when he visited my college, at this time he just started writing the Lucifer effect. My only contention with this is the idea of "evil" being a construct of objectivity and not a subjective one. Evil, as we call it always has and will be something that society lays claim to. I wish he'd use a term like "inhumane".
@thodal2000 My interpretation is that he was tying in drugs as a symptom of greater social problems in that community, rather than demonising the act of drug use itself
i saw the demons before the angels too. does that mean i look for evil first? or i am to quick to see the evil or blinded by it that i dont see the good in people first?
@studiousx3 Yeah all those people in the Milgram experiments must have been atheists, My Lai massacre too. Thats because if you are religious and you commit evil you can't be a "real" Christian right? By the way Hitler was a Catholic but followed Martin Luthers Antisemetic teachings. Read Mein Kampf if you don't believe me. Atheists are a quick and easy scapegoat. Sorry but a non belief in a sky daddy changes nothing, Morality- you either have it- or you don't.
wow... who the fuck would thumbs down Phillip Zimbardo? he did one of the most ground breaking psychology experiments in history, geez, some people just can't acknowledge the power of the social situations can they?
This is more by the social training we've received, a person being kind in its everyday doesn't means that he is "good person" just that he have been training like that to receive more social compensations. This and excessive morality always kill what you call "goodness"inside of many
Interesting, but not groundbreaking, Notice, all of the really amazed,people are psych 101 class members. Evil is not only rampant, it is omnipresent; it is through a balance of good or evil (not and, because some of us choose one over the other) that true happiness is achieved. If we didn't have bad days, we wouldn't notice the good ones; without monstrous evil, we cannot recognize sublime good.
@sbhattacherya I do not believe what you said is the least bit true. When rounding a mountain top looking out over an amazing scenic view, we are able to marvel at its splendor...even without having previously viewed any ugliness. I have heard the logic you repeated over and over throughout my life, and can say categorically that we ARE able to appreciate beauty, goodness, and truth on their own terms. Evil is not necessary in this world. I refuse to NEED it, or to justify its existence.
@florydory The view of the mountain top is 'beautiful' yes. had you seen nothing but that view you wouldn't just think "oh thats beautiful", you build your own belief of what is beautiful or not based on your past experiences. Even though before you might have not seen something ugly, it wasn't AS beautiful as what you see now so you can appreciate it.
You can only truly appreciate something if you are knowledgeable and can compare it to something else
@florydory A man who scores 10, 20 and 30 on a test would be appreciative of a 60. A man who scores 70, 80, and 90 on a test would view 60 as terrible.
You only can view things based on past experiences, and without a "lower" experience, you would have no reason to view something as "beautiful" or a "higher" experience, because you've had nothing lesser to compare it to.
If every single hill on this planet was an "amazing scenic view", you would not think it so amazing.
@veget00tegev >if every single hill on this planet was an "amazing scenic view" you would not think it so amazing<
I don't agree. Maslow observed people of note whom he considered to be "self actualized" (content, successful and self determining). He marveled that this group never seemed to tire of life, and had “the capacity to appreciate the sunrise or sunset or nature again and again.” The habit of comparing experiences then ranking them in the order of appreciation they deserve is learned
I think there is a lot of misunderstanding of Phil Zimbardo's thesis .He is not denying 'evil' impulses in anyone - or heroic either - he is explaining that they are not exclusive....It is very comforting for us to think we are 'good' people and these others are 'bad ' people - the fact is there are just people - and what transforms you is the siutation. This can begin early in life, upbringing is situational.., there may be genetic factors - but ultimately evil needs a fertile soil to grow..
wow he is talking fast...TED should have gave him an xtra 10 mins just so he could be comfortable and get it all out...I THINK..Zimbardo deserves it....
Amazing how many would either stand by and do nothing or would rather screw over their fellow human instead for power/pride/sheep mentality or whatever this inner 'reward' is they get from it - makes me sick and glad it won't EVER be me - I was brought up better than that.
I'm with team NYC subway man - first instinct to do what everyone else 'should' have done - there is some hope n decent folk left afterall! :0)
It’s a rather naive assumption and highly unscientific to say that these “people” who obviously enjoy torturing their prisoners, were “good” at one certain point, before they were sent to that war(by themselves as no one forced them), or before they joined the military in the first place. This type of deep sadism, it is far more plausible to say based on most psychological theories tested so far, develops much earlier, as early 3 years old.
@eldadevata It develops early and its expressed at a later stage, when that particular individual, due to its “achievements” and “ambition” reaches a position of power. I find the idea of power corrupting “good” people horribly unrealistic, and anchored in a religious/irrational view of life. A far more plausible explanation, is indeed that this characteristic(evil) is developed early in life, largely due to genetics and partially due to environmental effect.
@eldadevata The fact that this level of cruelty and sadism, (which actually is not far away from that of an everyday soldier that is prepared to kill its “enemy” at any given time) is caused most probably by genetic programming, doesn’t mean that the responsibility of the society is obsolete. We are responsible for finding out, what causes this obvious disease and cure/prevent it. The minimum thing is to expose it and lock them up as to protect the rest of us.
@eldadevata Zimbardo doesn't devalue personal responsibility. Look at the slide "7 Processes that Grease the Slippery Slope of Evil." "Diffusion of Personal Responsibility" is one of the bullet points. Milgram's subjects choose to electrocute when they're told they aren't responsible (see 11:10-11:20). Zimbardo calls his wife a heroine for making him personally responsible for his prison experiment. He's saying to investigate the processes that make people this way as well as individual traits.
This video furthers my view of what we are turning in to. We are living in an era of irresponsibility in which we blame society, others, and the "system" for our decisions. It takes the responsibility off of the individual. "He was a product of his environment"
Just realized that angels are depicted as being very feminine, I remember when I was little I thought the devil was cooler cause he was masculine... that possibly had some juvenile impression to do some bad things (to be cool), I wouldn't be surprised.. I'm a well educated and adjusted person but I can totally see how some boys would think this way.
i guess...IF people could turn back the time, smell a flower instead of running around with there cellphone making meetings to recieve and deliever money.
who gave you life?..who raised you?. who were your neighbour etc, the nature gives us the answers for how to live..how to be..how to see..and what do we do?..we stare at nature thru a f`cking television. animals are beeing erased from the face of earth. and we just continue to grow..and grow....and grow..did you do your calculations people
@Wiking80 did you do your shutupyoucuntulations? this is lecture on PSYCHOLOGY not global warming! i have no problem with people that are mindful of the dangers posed by the continued expansion of the human race. However if you talk down to me or anyone for that matter about it, particularly while on an unrelated video then you are simply dumb
then indian told a little girl..we all have 2 wolfs livin inside of us..the little girl asked: what do they eat..then indian replied..one eats fear..hate...the other love..warmth..and wich one would defeat the other..depends on who you feed! perhaps you could read my comment for what it is and stop this nonsence refering to globalwarming..iam not in that era..but thanks for your words..peace out
i dont see heinous torture,, this guy n libfuktards have an agenda, truly heinous torture is on the order of baboo shoots up nail beds , cattle prods in orifices , maiming , death , n worse,, waterboarding n being embarrassed but not having true pain n damage inflicted , ehh> please stfup
Zimbardo seems to buy into the government's explanation of Abu Ghraib abuses as power without authority. Many believe the tactics actually came from the highest authorities.
Not all evil is of the same constitution. Some evil can respond to heart power (self-sacrifice) alone, if the evil is being committed by people whose conscience can be reached (Ghandi, MLK). But sometimes that's not the case, as in Hitler and Tojo (and most criminals) and in those kinds of cases it takes more: self-sacrifice AND power, to prevent and overcome evil. Hence police forces, armed guards, standing armies, etc. ... So you're only partly right in your assessment.
There were obviously a few soldiers who were against these actions and submitted these photos and Ivan Frederick family themselves submitted these photos to 60 minutes.
remember Philip Zimbardo repesented the defense of Sgt. Ivan Frederick. He is using the government system to blame for the actions of these officers. Saying that they were under pressure to get Intel from the prisoners which was their motive for their torture. It is still down to the individual to choose whether to take part in doing these evil actions or not.
USA is evil and read the article in the NY Times by Seymore Hersh about the torture of children in Abu Graib; including sodomizing them. it was all videotaped by USA government workers. USA is the beast.
The Devil was not involved in the production of this film. There were no obvious or certified demon possessions. Only Human beings possessed of indifference towards their fellow human beings. Human beings who erroneously saw (and continue to see) cultural differences as physical rather than superficial. Human beings who gloried in their power of death over life.
the main point is that while those have been the results there exists a necessity to defy the current of the argued natural response to power. also see definitions of power. tolstoy has a nice rant in war and peace (you probably don't need to read the rest of the book to get it but you should).
so the main point from this whole talk is that if u are given power to abuse, you will abuse it. if you can do evil on anonymity, chances that you would, is higher.
WOW. seriously, if i didn't listen to this talk, i wouldn't have known.
So many ignorant people on here. the ID supplies the notion of "If it feels good, do it" The ego allows for logical thought process to obtain what you desire ethically. The superego, is the "moral watchdog" it keeps your ethics in tact.
You are fulll of shit! Too bad you where not alive during the judgements againsts the nazis, maybe you would of help to aquit them! The truth is that when "good" people do bad things it only means that they were evil all along. One makes the choice to do good or evil.
@hmsrenown What...Hitler didn't think he was working for the common good? That some how he wasn't "socio-centric?" If people were more egocentric, it would be easier to take the time needed to understand one's self. Than we wouldn't have to establish a system which inevitability employs this kind of dysfunction, as shown above. This is just more "Crusader ism," Now we'll have a bunch of dysfunctional people running around acting like saviors.
@wytentegowawszy That doesn't give him an excuse to violate the rights of others and his theory wasn't proved right. If his proponents acknowledged it was not replica because many of the scientific controls were absent.
Philip Zimbardo is evil for setting up such an evil experiment. It was totally unethical for him to do. I can't believe he got all these awards. He should be disbarred.
@rgz1985 so your opinion is nobody can make a mistake in this fine subject or bear the consequences for their life? It's always easy to criticize than to understand what happened.
@hmsrenown It is more complicated than that. Furthermore, your logic makes no sense. For instance, a person can make a "mistake" by getting behind the wheel and texting while driving or drinking while driving and end up running someone over with no intention of wanting to do so but they are still responsible and liable for there actions. The more you know!
@honesthua Thanks for agreeing. I have no idea why everyone praises him for it. Yes, it is interesting, but so were the Nazi experiments on Jews, Russians, and political prisoners. In both cases it doesn't mean that they were right to do in the first place. Given, the later case I mentioned is much more extreme to say the least than what Zimbardo did, but still both cases were morally wrong.
@rgz1985 Do you guys realize that the Stanford prison experiment was initially set up to see if type of mental effect roles of power would have on individuals. There was no intent to cause harm to any individual, and anything that was done was done so BY the people being observed. Point of fact, after the 2nd day of the experiment the "prisoners" staged a riot, and the guards actions were in response of that riot. No observer had any direct involvement in the experiment other than ending it.
He managed to fit a semester's worth of material in to 23 minutes. Crazy. Loved his passion. He touched on so many good points. Excellent speech!
OregonCoastGhost 6 months ago 36
That guy's breathing is killing me. I'm going to need him to take care of himself :( Brilliant work though.
Samoaqueen 6 months ago 23
Evil does not exist and hate only exists because people believe in evil. Please stop calling and thinking of things that are bad as "evil". It doesn't exist. I really wish that this thought comes through to as many people as possible. I don't want to see more unnecessary hate and suffering in the world.
mamikodis 6 months ago
what you learn in childhood and how you react to what you have learned and developed with present situations will determine what your good and evil choices are in the society you live in. Good and evil are relative. Is it good to eat dogs in the USA, no. In China is it perfectly fine to eat dogs there, yes. So are they "evil" to you. childhood deprevation leads to adult compensation. so when one chooses to do evil in their society they are a bad
reaction.
GJ3200 6 months ago
evil is my ex-wife incarnate!!!
GJ3200 6 months ago 2
M.C: Escher was dutch, not swiss.
TheGoukaruma 6 months ago 4
zimbardo unraveled the psychology of morality - thank you
egodrive 6 months ago
Wonder what this guy's take on sociopaths is? And yes, they are born with the frontal lobe defect that makes them "evil".
NinetiesYouth 6 months ago
I resent the fact that TED removed the most graphic images. Stop trying to protect us from reality! I think that to this day the public doesn't really know what went on there. How can we prevent ourselves from doing this again if we are not aware of the full extent of what we are capable of as a species?
headybrew 6 months ago 21
I meant it often happens from my experience as a follower of Christ is people become Christian because they did bad things and after becoming Christians they look for every opportunity to help others and sacrifice their time an self
StopFear 6 months ago
Often.
StopFear 6 months ago
The internet is growing exponentially! His google "evil" results were 136 million hits in .33 of a second. today, nearly 3 years later, my google "evil" results are 757 million hits in .07 seconds.
Nitrousx 6 months ago
I don't believe in good or evil is just people perception of whats what. I bought Philips book great book but i still don't believe in good nor evil its still on peoles perception
darkness442003 6 months ago
@darkness442003 Yeah, the thing is "What do people perceive as both?" One's idea of evil could be someone's idea of good. For example the Holocaust. Everyone knows that it was bad, but for 'some' German people it was in fact good, because at the time Germany was in the state of economic crisis and Hitler helped them. No, I'm not trying to advocate Nazism or what not. I just think it is the perception of POWER that leads us into thinking and acting that those ways.But that's never going to change
MrRageQuitter 6 months ago
@MrRageQuitter Power your talking about is that power of conformity, to be clear following orders. Hitler was a powerful influence this shows humankinds weakness to be swayed by such a weak person. Another example of power of influence in Obama i never believed his speeches are nothing but hot hair i told everyone i did not trust him people called me evil no look at them now. This why good and evil are so unimportant to put stock in
darkness442003 6 months ago
@VoxPopuli666 Or, perhaps you're biased in your political views and chose to demonize good people due to their political outlooks? I'm fairly right wing and believe in all personal freedoms to the extent that they don't hurt people.. right wing doesn't mean religious, as I'm atheist..
AgentxAnonymous 6 months ago
Rumsfeld gave the okay!! Zimbardo has his 'theory' and he is entitled. But to go public with it without the correct facts is perpetrating falsehood. And for those who do not know the facts will believe him. Truly I hope not everyone believes him. Much of what he says, to me, is not common sense.
inhisgrace007 6 months ago
The military members who violated prisoners were trained on torture techniques and were given the okay to use them. One need only do some thorough research to read the facts. We all have choices. I would rather face court marshall than to commit acts of humiliation or violence against a fellow human being. THERE IS ALWAYS A CHOICE even when a gun is held to one's head, the choice is do the dirty deed or die. My choice would be - "shoot me".
inhisgrace007 6 months ago
@inhisgrace007 Amen to that.
ZachRose88 6 months ago
Interesting. But I do not agree totally. Two contentions - One: Lucifer was not God's favorite angel, nor was he ever considered the morning star. Two; his comment about God not doing a good job of keeping evil in hell. An imperfect man judging God is like shooting oneself in the foot. IF people turn evil, given certain circumstances, then explain to me why captives of middle east terrorists did not turn evil during or after captivity.
inhisgrace007 6 months ago
@inhisgrace007 Well, your research is based on a subjective book written by man, so you are the perfect example of a human being under the influence of mind control. Have a nice day.
AgentxAnonymous 6 months ago
@AgentxAnonymous It seems redundant to argue with you because it is about decision. Your choice to believe in what you believe and it's my choice to back off from what you believe and just not accept your POV. I mean your view has to be shaped by something and that is what means 'being under the influence of mind control'. Well not in the major sense of mind control but maybe environmental influence.
MrRageQuitter 6 months ago
@AgentxAnonymous My decision to back off shows direct similarities to the other people who watched the guy jump off the train tracks to save the other guy.
MrRageQuitter 6 months ago
@inhisgrace007 Interesting viewpoint. However, Lucifer "means" morning star. Not "considered" the morning star. Question: Do you personally know the captives? The point of the video is "circumstances" combined with the person's perception under those circumstances will influence people in the "choices" they make.
LoonyVision 6 months ago
Very interesting. One contention - Lucifer was not God's favorite angel, nor was he ever considered the morning star. I do not believe, personally, all people, given a certain set of circumstances, would do evil. Why? By believing there is always a choice even if only there are only two choices.
inhisgrace007 6 months ago
evil can also be defined as the absence of good
tjcooney99 6 months ago
man he brings up great points
MrDinoSayRawr 6 months ago
and i married her the next year hahaha!
knocknak 6 months ago
He doesn't look 75
r0galik 7 months ago
When I saw the picture at 1:23 I immediately saw the world of demons, and even after he mentioned there were angels, I had trouble noticing them... I hope this isn't a sign of any underlying psychological issues.
SSJkiller 7 months ago 2
TED... I have to sleep...
TheRealArngrim 7 months ago 77
So the Luciferian way to be devious is to diffuse evil in such a way that "what" are those things to be responsible upon is not known and "who" should be responsible on cannot be identified. Is that the gist of it?
raficsulejmanovic 7 months ago
wow this is very interesting and very logical and explained greatly - good for him marrying her ther next year bizzare!!
jodielouise11 7 months ago
HEH
Everyone needs to see this. Very well presented. Its funny because I just had a hour debate with my sis about this very topic. To say the least she falls into the "passive" state.
KillahB89 7 months ago
Gangstalkers = COINTELPRO perps = US prison abusers = real subjects of Milgram (obedience) experiment
世界一 病んだ変態 ナチスアメリカ
GroundZeroHiroshima 7 months ago
he married her the next year hahahahahahahahahahahaha
charlie666chalk 8 months ago
Reminds me of what the Stanford prison experiment also showed.
SmokingOneTwo 8 months ago
Nice application to a real life example, but I don't see what this proves that the Stanford prison experiment hasn't already.
SmokingOneTwo 8 months ago 2
LOL. Ding! Ding! Ding!
technoholic562 8 months ago
this guy is very unique and i support his investigations DR ZİMARDO FTW :)
MrOscarCoban 8 months ago
I think he should stop using the term "evil" to describe violent or cruel acts. People often equate the term "evil" with a malevolent, invisible force ~ other than a decision. It might misinform.
MolecularMoonlight 8 months ago
@MolecularMoonlight evil is the definition of that haha
MrOscarCoban 8 months ago
Know what makes his stomach big and round like that? Swallowing watermelon seeds.
MolecularMoonlight 8 months ago
this is super important. I would love to talk negatively after this and talk about all the "righteous people" and "normal people" to blame. But I will go only this far. If any of you want things different, you have to, like Zimbardo said, not be afraid to act out.
That takes time to learn. Our human instinct is to not stick out, follow what everyone is doing. Evil spreads that way. It's ok if it doesn't work out at first... learn, and break the cycle. I hope everyone can do that.
snowwolfsabertooth 8 months ago
An example of anonymity and lack of a defined set of rules and leadership is the Threat Fusion Centers popping up all over America. Their Stasi-like tactics of placing people on watch lists because they were seen in a political rally or supporting Ron Paul is frightening. If this is the beginning, what happens when they turn up the voltage?
UnitedFatesOfAmerica 8 months ago
The statistical rise in “evil” acts when anonymity is introduced is very interesting to me. During the protests of the G20 in Pittsburgh, most of the police were not wearing name tags or badges. Many of them were wearing helmets which covered their faces. There are many YouTube videos of those police beating and abusing innocent protesters.
UnitedFatesOfAmerica 8 months ago
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UnitedFatesOfAmerica 8 months ago
i see the biggest experiment in human history in video games like grand theft auto, u give a nice kid the game and he ends up blowing up cops and innocent civilians, very interesting video
animalman1122 8 months ago
Power is the key word here. When I researched this atrocity, I found out that England was being abused by her boyfriend. Putting people into a situation like this is going to end badly, because of a thirst for power.
Nancy21Rappaccini 8 months ago
I can't stop seeing the demons...
I can't see the angels
redryan20000 8 months ago
The part where he describes his friends in a Dr. Jekyll /Mr. Hyde scenario and proceeds to relate their drug use as evidence of Jekyll/Hyde.
@:30
thodal2000 9 months ago
I'm very adamant follow of Zimbardo. In fact, I have his autographed stored and actually received a hug from him when he visited my college, at this time he just started writing the Lucifer effect. My only contention with this is the idea of "evil" being a construct of objectivity and not a subjective one. Evil, as we call it always has and will be something that society lays claim to. I wish he'd use a term like "inhumane".
EzeWong 9 months ago
fail for very sneakily equating drugs with evil.
thodal2000 9 months ago
@thodal2000 can you give me the time in the video?
qttytn 9 months ago
@qttytn The part where he describes his friends in a Dr. Jekyll /Mr. Hyde scenario and proceeds to relate their drug use as evidence of Jekyll/Hyde.
@:30
thodal2000 9 months ago
@thodal2000 My interpretation is that he was tying in drugs as a symptom of greater social problems in that community, rather than demonising the act of drug use itself
qttytn 9 months ago
The dude looks pregnant.
kickherb 9 months ago
i saw the demons before the angels too. does that mean i look for evil first? or i am to quick to see the evil or blinded by it that i dont see the good in people first?
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chocolatediet11 9 months ago
@ 20:14 GOOD WINS OVER EVIL (-:
jonesey5168 9 months ago
Atheism promotes these type of behavior. Aggressive Atheism that is.
Richard Dawkins and Dennett are creating a hate group.
studiousx3 9 months ago
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Cougar139tweak 8 months ago
@studiousx3 Yeah all those people in the Milgram experiments must have been atheists, My Lai massacre too. Thats because if you are religious and you commit evil you can't be a "real" Christian right? By the way Hitler was a Catholic but followed Martin Luthers Antisemetic teachings. Read Mein Kampf if you don't believe me. Atheists are a quick and easy scapegoat. Sorry but a non belief in a sky daddy changes nothing, Morality- you either have it- or you don't.
Cougar139tweak 8 months ago
wow... who the fuck would thumbs down Phillip Zimbardo? he did one of the most ground breaking psychology experiments in history, geez, some people just can't acknowledge the power of the social situations can they?
Texemosis 10 months ago 6
@Texemosis 57 EVIL people gave a thumbs down
jonesey5168 9 months ago
Excellent.
Like - Comment & Subscribe! ;-)
OldManMiki 10 months ago
This is more by the social training we've received, a person being kind in its everyday doesn't means that he is "good person" just that he have been training like that to receive more social compensations. This and excessive morality always kill what you call "goodness"inside of many
dargor23212 10 months ago
Very interesting indeed.
But Escher was Dutch, not Swiss.
boerbeat 10 months ago
Interesting, but not groundbreaking, Notice, all of the really amazed,people are psych 101 class members. Evil is not only rampant, it is omnipresent; it is through a balance of good or evil (not and, because some of us choose one over the other) that true happiness is achieved. If we didn't have bad days, we wouldn't notice the good ones; without monstrous evil, we cannot recognize sublime good.
sbhattacherya 10 months ago
@sbhattacherya I do not believe what you said is the least bit true. When rounding a mountain top looking out over an amazing scenic view, we are able to marvel at its splendor...even without having previously viewed any ugliness. I have heard the logic you repeated over and over throughout my life, and can say categorically that we ARE able to appreciate beauty, goodness, and truth on their own terms. Evil is not necessary in this world. I refuse to NEED it, or to justify its existence.
florydory 10 months ago
@florydory The view of the mountain top is 'beautiful' yes. had you seen nothing but that view you wouldn't just think "oh thats beautiful", you build your own belief of what is beautiful or not based on your past experiences. Even though before you might have not seen something ugly, it wasn't AS beautiful as what you see now so you can appreciate it.
You can only truly appreciate something if you are knowledgeable and can compare it to something else
jalriteythen 10 months ago
@florydory A man who scores 10, 20 and 30 on a test would be appreciative of a 60. A man who scores 70, 80, and 90 on a test would view 60 as terrible.
You only can view things based on past experiences, and without a "lower" experience, you would have no reason to view something as "beautiful" or a "higher" experience, because you've had nothing lesser to compare it to.
If every single hill on this planet was an "amazing scenic view", you would not think it so amazing.
veget00tegev 9 months ago
@veget00tegev >if every single hill on this planet was an "amazing scenic view" you would not think it so amazing<
I don't agree. Maslow observed people of note whom he considered to be "self actualized" (content, successful and self determining). He marveled that this group never seemed to tire of life, and had “the capacity to appreciate the sunrise or sunset or nature again and again.” The habit of comparing experiences then ranking them in the order of appreciation they deserve is learned
florydory 9 months ago
We watched this is our psycology class.
maaneblomme 10 months ago
Dr. Kenneth Gutmman, Citrus College Psychology Professor, showed us this video today. Disturbing but VERY interesting. Really made the class think.
lizzy0132 10 months ago
Great video! Applaud.
DinaStrange 10 months ago
This is exactly what happens all the time in schools and work places... this is exactly how bullying works.
Tuuliska 10 months ago
I think there is a lot of misunderstanding of Phil Zimbardo's thesis .He is not denying 'evil' impulses in anyone - or heroic either - he is explaining that they are not exclusive....It is very comforting for us to think we are 'good' people and these others are 'bad ' people - the fact is there are just people - and what transforms you is the siutation. This can begin early in life, upbringing is situational.., there may be genetic factors - but ultimately evil needs a fertile soil to grow..
georgiegirlize 10 months ago 62
@georgiegirlize can i use ur comment on my fb?....very interesting....i will credit you
awuahnsiah 10 months ago
@georgiegirlize can i use ur comment on my fb?....very interesting....i will credit you
awuahnsiah 10 months ago
@awuahnsiah Hi, No problem, feel free!
georgiegirlize 10 months ago
@georgiegirlize thanks
awuahnsiah 10 months ago
@georgiegirlize @georgiegirlize can i use ur comment on my fb?....very interesting....i will credit you
awuahnsiah 10 months ago
i looked at this 3 times..still see devils..wtf
trufiend138 11 months ago
@trufiend138 Focus on the white spce.
Wolfsrain90 9 months ago
wow he is talking fast...TED should have gave him an xtra 10 mins just so he could be comfortable and get it all out...I THINK..Zimbardo deserves it....
trufiend138 11 months ago 7
Amazing how many would either stand by and do nothing or would rather screw over their fellow human instead for power/pride/sheep mentality or whatever this inner 'reward' is they get from it - makes me sick and glad it won't EVER be me - I was brought up better than that.
I'm with team NYC subway man - first instinct to do what everyone else 'should' have done - there is some hope n decent folk left afterall! :0)
koisteetee2 11 months ago
It’s a rather naive assumption and highly unscientific to say that these “people” who obviously enjoy torturing their prisoners, were “good” at one certain point, before they were sent to that war(by themselves as no one forced them), or before they joined the military in the first place. This type of deep sadism, it is far more plausible to say based on most psychological theories tested so far, develops much earlier, as early 3 years old.
eldadevata 11 months ago
@eldadevata It develops early and its expressed at a later stage, when that particular individual, due to its “achievements” and “ambition” reaches a position of power. I find the idea of power corrupting “good” people horribly unrealistic, and anchored in a religious/irrational view of life. A far more plausible explanation, is indeed that this characteristic(evil) is developed early in life, largely due to genetics and partially due to environmental effect.
eldadevata 11 months ago
@eldadevata The fact that this level of cruelty and sadism, (which actually is not far away from that of an everyday soldier that is prepared to kill its “enemy” at any given time) is caused most probably by genetic programming, doesn’t mean that the responsibility of the society is obsolete. We are responsible for finding out, what causes this obvious disease and cure/prevent it. The minimum thing is to expose it and lock them up as to protect the rest of us.
eldadevata 11 months ago
@eldadevata Zimbardo doesn't devalue personal responsibility. Look at the slide "7 Processes that Grease the Slippery Slope of Evil." "Diffusion of Personal Responsibility" is one of the bullet points. Milgram's subjects choose to electrocute when they're told they aren't responsible (see 11:10-11:20). Zimbardo calls his wife a heroine for making him personally responsible for his prison experiment. He's saying to investigate the processes that make people this way as well as individual traits.
xenigirl 9 months ago
This video furthers my view of what we are turning in to. We are living in an era of irresponsibility in which we blame society, others, and the "system" for our decisions. It takes the responsibility off of the individual. "He was a product of his environment"
AroundSun 11 months ago
is adolf hitler riseing again evil appears threw history on mass scales in history and now
johnkhutchison1 11 months ago
people turn evil by giving into the world . im just to make a long story short !
housetaboo 1 year ago
Just realized that angels are depicted as being very feminine, I remember when I was little I thought the devil was cooler cause he was masculine... that possibly had some juvenile impression to do some bad things (to be cool), I wouldn't be surprised.. I'm a well educated and adjusted person but I can totally see how some boys would think this way.
iTellyoueveryting 1 year ago
As I am Dutch I must state that MC Escher was dutch, not swiss. Other than that this was an extremely interesting lecture!
Garnoth 1 year ago 2
5:42 Thumbs up for psycho authority abuse :(
tantoedge 1 year ago
This is extremely interesting.
liefdealom 1 year ago 61
17:54 *ERROR-SPREE* =O
razorTin 1 year ago
17:37 *ERROR* xD
razorTin 1 year ago
Cant even see the Angles.
vikkehxx 1 year ago
i guess...IF people could turn back the time, smell a flower instead of running around with there cellphone making meetings to recieve and deliever money.
who gave you life?..who raised you?. who were your neighbour etc, the nature gives us the answers for how to live..how to be..how to see..and what do we do?..we stare at nature thru a f`cking television. animals are beeing erased from the face of earth. and we just continue to grow..and grow....and grow..did you do your calculations people
Wiking80 1 year ago
@Wiking80 did you do your shutupyoucuntulations? this is lecture on PSYCHOLOGY not global warming! i have no problem with people that are mindful of the dangers posed by the continued expansion of the human race. However if you talk down to me or anyone for that matter about it, particularly while on an unrelated video then you are simply dumb
TheRapeBear 11 months ago
@TheRapeBear
then indian told a little girl..we all have 2 wolfs livin inside of us..the little girl asked: what do they eat..then indian replied..one eats fear..hate...the other love..warmth..and wich one would defeat the other..depends on who you feed! perhaps you could read my comment for what it is and stop this nonsence refering to globalwarming..iam not in that era..but thanks for your words..peace out
Wiking80 11 months ago
American's presiednt's are talking abaut Holocaust, but they are not any better!!
NytroBenzin 1 year ago
Isn't wanting to be a hero egocentrical?
karel021077 1 year ago
when the "angels and bats"slide appeared,he assumed that you see the angels first.
edichkaa 1 year ago
i dont see heinous torture,, this guy n libfuktards have an agenda, truly heinous torture is on the order of baboo shoots up nail beds , cattle prods in orifices , maiming , death , n worse,, waterboarding n being embarrassed but not having true pain n damage inflicted , ehh> please stfup
prezobummer 1 year ago
Zimbardo seems to buy into the government's explanation of Abu Ghraib abuses as power without authority. Many believe the tactics actually came from the highest authorities.
Youmightberight 1 year ago
52 people work for scientology.
theroob 1 year ago 3
Not all evil is of the same constitution. Some evil can respond to heart power (self-sacrifice) alone, if the evil is being committed by people whose conscience can be reached (Ghandi, MLK). But sometimes that's not the case, as in Hitler and Tojo (and most criminals) and in those kinds of cases it takes more: self-sacrifice AND power, to prevent and overcome evil. Hence police forces, armed guards, standing armies, etc. ... So you're only partly right in your assessment.
marvy1118 1 year ago
There were obviously a few soldiers who were against these actions and submitted these photos and Ivan Frederick family themselves submitted these photos to 60 minutes.
MrDragonvt 1 year ago
remember Philip Zimbardo repesented the defense of Sgt. Ivan Frederick. He is using the government system to blame for the actions of these officers. Saying that they were under pressure to get Intel from the prisoners which was their motive for their torture. It is still down to the individual to choose whether to take part in doing these evil actions or not.
MrDragonvt 1 year ago
@rmjeanes That din make no sense.
marvy1118 1 year ago
I love Philip Zimbardo ever since I watched a documentary on psychology with him in it
BandofBrothersWega 1 year ago
"There is good and bad in everyone." Paul McCartney, "Ebony and Ivory"
marvy1118 1 year ago
Zimbardo is leaving out the fact that some 'guards' were sadistic and others weren't.
marvy1118 1 year ago
@marvy1118 What you watched was a summary of a 2 hour presentation. He left a lot of things out.
Icemario87 1 year ago
USA is evil and read the article in the NY Times by Seymore Hersh about the torture of children in Abu Graib; including sodomizing them. it was all videotaped by USA government workers. USA is the beast.
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bolgendolki 1 year ago
is he pregnant?
LosChicosSexos 1 year ago 3
@LosChicosSexos LMFAO
GEoGD87 1 year ago
@LosChicosSexos IS HE SMARTER THAN YOU? LOL
marcjtdc 1 year ago
@LosChicosSexos
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monochromen64 1 year ago
everyone needs to watch this.
thesparitan 1 year ago
Escher Was Dutch, not Swiss.
Searchamelia 1 year ago
LOL he married her the next year XD
theazn07 1 year ago
i saw the demons before i saw the angels O_O
theazn07 1 year ago 149
@theazn07 ;-)
Fackzilla 1 year ago
@theazn07 ,the reason is that you tend to look for meaning in the black part first,,,as in reading something,,,also the subject was "evil",,,,so,,,
edichkaa 1 year ago
@theazn07 i still couldnt see the angels when he said haha eeek!
xPrincessxAcaciax 1 year ago
@theazn07 me too =/
lizzy0132 10 months ago
@theazn07 visually, they stood out much more. or it could be cause you're EVILLLLL! ;)
terminaleggs 8 months ago
The Devil was not involved in the production of this film. There were no obvious or certified demon possessions. Only Human beings possessed of indifference towards their fellow human beings. Human beings who erroneously saw (and continue to see) cultural differences as physical rather than superficial. Human beings who gloried in their power of death over life.
souldoctor73 1 year ago
the main point is that while those have been the results there exists a necessity to defy the current of the argued natural response to power. also see definitions of power. tolstoy has a nice rant in war and peace (you probably don't need to read the rest of the book to get it but you should).
bolatter 1 year ago
so the main point from this whole talk is that if u are given power to abuse, you will abuse it. if you can do evil on anonymity, chances that you would, is higher.
WOW. seriously, if i didn't listen to this talk, i wouldn't have known.
obiduck 1 year ago
Loved it when you came to Victoria, Camosun College.
tydees 1 year ago
Evil starts with giving this video a "thumbs down".
dmuth 1 year ago
Coupled with the t-shirt the irony is that Zimbardo is about the most satanic looking speaker I`ve seen.
quigonngaijin 1 year ago 3
and zimbardo is super^^anyways
wolfie102 1 year ago
Escher is dutch, a frisian to be exact
wolfie102 1 year ago
EAT THE DAMN SAUSAGES
Cobaltchill 1 year ago
Phenomenal lecture by a phenomenal Psychologist.
hereonearthme 1 year ago
wasnt escher dutch?
jak1428 1 year ago 2
this the reason im misanthrope
MrAllenmichael 1 year ago
I saw the devils first in that Escher thing. Thought they were just bats at first.
SabreKitteh 1 year ago
So many ignorant people on here. the ID supplies the notion of "If it feels good, do it" The ego allows for logical thought process to obtain what you desire ethically. The superego, is the "moral watchdog" it keeps your ethics in tact.
severrin 1 year ago
@severrin That is usually the way it works, but many people who commit immoral acts justify it on an ego (or even a superego level).
xXPinkGoddessXx 1 year ago
abuse and deviousness
stoddcrew 1 year ago
What the hell is happening in this world we are living in?!
MrMartinMihov 1 year ago
lolololol
"the good news is that I married her the next year"
everyoneloveskayla 1 year ago 2
You are fulll of shit! Too bad you where not alive during the judgements againsts the nazis, maybe you would of help to aquit them! The truth is that when "good" people do bad things it only means that they were evil all along. One makes the choice to do good or evil.
NEBESHIKU 1 year ago
Some one become a naughty women mworld5.info
dilminishmindri 1 year ago
I disagree with the hero thing. Hitler thought of himself as a hero and a nation believed him. Look how dumb Obama and his supports are.
Blastfimus777 1 year ago
@Blastfimus777 You totally missed the point. Act socio-centrically not egocentrically is a hero, and the reverse is dictation.
hmsrenown 1 year ago
@hmsrenown What...Hitler didn't think he was working for the common good? That some how he wasn't "socio-centric?" If people were more egocentric, it would be easier to take the time needed to understand one's self. Than we wouldn't have to establish a system which inevitability employs this kind of dysfunction, as shown above. This is just more "Crusader ism," Now we'll have a bunch of dysfunctional people running around acting like saviors.
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rgz1985 1 year ago
scary scary scary this is supposed to be viewer's discretion
maroonvelvetgirl 1 year ago
Here's what he had to say in an interview:
Q. From your book, I sense you feel some lingering guilt about organizing “the most unethical study” ever. Do you?
A. When I look back on it, I think, “Why didn’t you stop the cruelty earlier?” To stand back was contrary to my upbringing and nature.
When I stood back as a noninterfering experimental scientist, I was, in a sense, as drawn into the power of the situation as any prisoners and guards.
rgz1985 1 year ago 10
@rgz1985 So? It only proved his theory right.
wytentegowawszy 1 year ago 2
@wytentegowawszy That doesn't give him an excuse to violate the rights of others and his theory wasn't proved right. If his proponents acknowledged it was not replica because many of the scientific controls were absent.
rgz1985 1 year ago
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rgz1985 1 year ago
Philip Zimbardo is evil for setting up such an evil experiment. It was totally unethical for him to do. I can't believe he got all these awards. He should be disbarred.
rgz1985 1 year ago
@rgz1985 so your opinion is nobody can make a mistake in this fine subject or bear the consequences for their life? It's always easy to criticize than to understand what happened.
hmsrenown 1 year ago
@hmsrenown It is more complicated than that. Furthermore, your logic makes no sense. For instance, a person can make a "mistake" by getting behind the wheel and texting while driving or drinking while driving and end up running someone over with no intention of wanting to do so but they are still responsible and liable for there actions. The more you know!
rgz1985 1 year ago
@rgz1985 "No Intention" The study is about why people would do atrocious acts intentionally
nowherelife 1 year ago
@rgz1985 I was rather disturbed by his experiment. It was pretty damn sick.
honesthua 1 year ago
@honesthua Thanks for agreeing. I have no idea why everyone praises him for it. Yes, it is interesting, but so were the Nazi experiments on Jews, Russians, and political prisoners. In both cases it doesn't mean that they were right to do in the first place. Given, the later case I mentioned is much more extreme to say the least than what Zimbardo did, but still both cases were morally wrong.
rgz1985 1 year ago
@rgz1985 Do you guys realize that the Stanford prison experiment was initially set up to see if type of mental effect roles of power would have on individuals. There was no intent to cause harm to any individual, and anything that was done was done so BY the people being observed. Point of fact, after the 2nd day of the experiment the "prisoners" staged a riot, and the guards actions were in response of that riot. No observer had any direct involvement in the experiment other than ending it.
severrin 1 year ago
@severrin Ok...your point?
rgz1985 1 year ago
@severrin like the ATF at Wacko Texas
DancingSpiderman 1 year ago
@DancingSpiderman Wacko & Jones Town were the work of USA fascist government.
candygir7 1 year ago