As odd as it may sound, Bieber has a greater understanding and talent in music that this pretentious goat fucker may ever hope to.
I will repeat it again; this man may as well be playing random notes as these nonsensical rhythms and complete lack harmony and melody have NO musical merit what so ever. Talent? Maybe. Pretentious wank tard? I think that's pretty fucking obvious.
@Carthsgtr dude....you suck and you couldnt even play 10 seconds of this shittt!!!! 100000000x better than youre shitty dire straits cover. and cmon man!! at 4:05??????? you wish you could hammer like that!!! suck my kawk
I wish I could construct my sentences as well as you that's for sure. I don't think I could find a logical argument anywhere to rebut such an eloquently written post as yours. Kudos.
I think what's pretty fucking obvious, judging by the way you speak, is that you're a pretentious wanktard. Maybe some people don't suckle the teat of harmony and melody exclusively? You're setting everything to an almost industrial standard. Yeah, money, etc. At least Mick's not so closed-minded and confined in his artistic tastes as yourself. You don't like it. Get over it. In all of his "talent and harmony", I don't give two shits about Bieber. You dont see me crying overit
It is my personal belief that without harmony and melody or at the very least, organized rhythmic ideas, it is on the borderline of being classified as music at all. Even with the definition of "music is organized sound" I do not believe that this fits the category. In all honesty, I quite liked the youtube clip of his solo playing at The Stone in NY, but I think that passing this off as art is INCREDIBLY pretentious. Simply pushing borders for the sake of it isn't clever.
@Carthsgtr i think trying to pass your comment off as an insightful, well researched, and credible critique on modern avant garde music is incredibly pretentious. there is plenty of harmony, rhythm, and melodic motifs in this song, but it happens at such a rapid pace that it's difficult for even the most attentive listener to identify what the hell is going on, and that's why i love it.
@Carthsgtr That certainly was an intelligent sentence. Well, it's unfortunate you think this music is bullshit. I'm sure a lot of your favorite artists don't feel the same way.
this would be alot better if the disortion wasnt so obnoxious, if it wasnt all muddled together i think it would be easier to listen to and prolly sound pretty cool
Looking at it again, I think I get it now. There actually is a structure in the peice, and measures. They are difficult to discern, but they are there. It seems the guitar and drums are trying to play in perfect note-for-note harmony. Kinda weird, and kinda cool at the same time.
I think that's Zach Hill's philosophy about his drumming if I remember correctly. In Modern Drummer a while back he talked about how he saw himself more as a horn player or guitarist on the drums instead of someone who keeps time.
what a bunch of pussies on youtube my god. Fuck scales fuck song structure fuck harmony just watch in awe as these two men create these beautiful sounds. I love this shit.
make no mistakes about it. these guys are not fooling around. whether or not its music you listen to for enjoyment, they're playing extremely difficult compositions in sync with one another. somewhere around 1:50 its distinct enough to hear the drummer doing fills while the guitarist sweeps notes in perfect rhythmic harmony
omfg this is the worst thing I've ever heard. Like wow. ok you can play fast, but HOLY FUCK PLAY IN A SCALE OR SOMETHING FOR GODS SAKE! IT SOUNDS LIKE A RETARD ON SPEED IN TRYING TO PLAY GUITAR.
Play in a scale? tell that to Schönberg or Lutoslawski. Read something about contemporary music. By the way, both are dead... Keep riffing metalhead, do the helicopter
... no? who said I was judging anyone, except this guitarist, who thinks that by playing as fast as he can, which admitedly is incredible, hes making music. this is not music. this is literally jerking off a guitar, and there is no melody, no composition, and no thought put into this.
oh, well contemporary music means any that is being written present day. techinically this is music. music doesnt necessarily have to have a melody, a distinct composition, or much thought put into it. if youre going to take that standpoint you could say that most metal isnt music either. i myself dont really enjoy listening to this. i love hella though.
I'm sure other people might enjoy this, but I just did not. And dont come telling me to fuck off and telling me this guy is amazing for playing that fast that long, i mean sure hes fast, but as far as i hear, hes not clean, i dont know if he does that on purpose or not. And I just think its kinda unmelodic, but hey, each to his own, i'll go listen to something else instead.
yes i understand that its not difficult, n there jus seziuring out on the instruments the whole time! i seen these guys live once, it was good fer a laugh, there was a guy in yellow jump suit, freakin out on the keyboard, very haliarous, when i sit down on the toliet to take a shit, it sounds alot better then this
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funny shit, people talkin bout these guys being good, if u considering seizuring out on an instrument good, well yeah these guys are jus the bomb eh. these guys opened up at a concert i was at, it was good fer a laugh, remeber like it was yesterday! little yellow jump suit guy seizuring out on his keyboard screamin into the microphone, funny how people say the drums are good, i knew i took special precautions not to turn out as shitty as this zach hill person,this shit is really sick..SICKENING
Do you understand the sheer difficulty of playing for this speed for this long? If you don't like it, that's fine, but that doesn't mean other people can't enjoy it. Just avoid it for yourself.
I actualy perfer the drummer in orthrelm... I don't know I like this and everything but he's got less of a wall of noise, and seemingly more inflection, specificaly in his high hat, especialy in the orthrelm thingy on teh youtube.
...this is so weird...when I first heard Zach Hill I was like "wow he's the Mick Barr of the drums"...and now they're playing together as I watch...all I can say is...wankery music at it's best...
If you think this is random noise and just wankery, get the album, "Shred Earthship". Give it two listens, a few tracks at a time. You still won't be able to sing a melody and barely a rhythm from it apart on a couple of occurences, but you'll understand what is their point.
It's kinda alien morse code, especially Zach Hill's right foot (bass drum). Sheets of sound wash over you, and it's really soothing. You can listen to it at low volume to go to sleep. It's anything but spastic and hectic.
expression. I was lucky enough to bear witness to the superhuman powers of Zach Hill when Hella played @ Local 506, a tiny club in Chapel Hill, NC. I've seen many excellent concerts, and I will see many more before I die; I am quite certain that I will never see a more mindblowing display of drumming skills. From the very first note played all the way up until the last - Zach Hill played with an unrelenting tenacity that seemed to break the laws of nature. I stopped by to see 2 good friends
if you close the comments then i can't chime in...First I would like to say that whoever made the comment: "I just came a rainbow" - sorry i am not going to wade through the negative tripe to look up the username - you Sir (or Mam) made my day! Had i been imbibing a beverage at that moment my computer monitor would be ruined. Secondly, I wanted to share with the folks who truly love music and are thankful that someone was captured a rare instance of musicians out on the frontier of a musical
There's a difference between being simple-minded and disliking this piece of shit. I listen to all kinds of jazz and progressive, and I still think this is terrible, so I don't think there is much of a correlation with being simple-minded. By the way, it's actually natural to dislike shit, so, go figure, not a lot of people like this.
the fucke dup part is that the guitarist has albums of this crazy shredding memorized...theres one with zach hill "shredearthship" but the crazier stuff is with a drum machine. octis....the best one is orthrelm...its fuckin crazy
The idea of that music is much better than the music itself. Still, you have to give props to the musicians, who so skillfully transpose the idea to their instruments.
of course its hard to listen to! of course its not melodic (in any conventional sense)! this isnt even necessarily about doing what one would connote as 'good music'! its challenging and intense.
Let me also note that regardless of your opinion on it, there's more happening here than most are ready to admit upon first listen. Maybe it's not your thing, but not just anyone could create this.
No. Bad. Fucking bad. Bleeding from the ears bad. You see, it's like kind of like really easy math.
Sounding good > technical prowess.
Therefore this = bad.
I can hit Randomize on a music program and memorize that and play it really fast, which is about all you'd need to write something similar, if not almost exactly like, this. But it sounds terrible. So I don't.
This is improvised music. They didn't "write" it. Also, I noticed you favorited a Les Claypool track. Les Claypool has done some work with this drummer...but I guess they're all just talentless hacks living it up by "randomizing" music in a program and playing it really fast. Get real, dude. Dream Theater? Give me a break. Pure wankery. No thanks. Go back to listening to Buckethead. His new track on Guitar Hero 7 is going to be incredible brah!
Look, if DT is pure wankery, (Even though they wrote and composed music for an entire fucking ORCHESTRA on their Score DVD/CD - which, if you'd given it any type of listen, you would know is NOT "wankery" - as well as having some songs with some instruments entirely absent, thus impossible to "wank" on) I don't even KNOW what to call this. I don't care if Claypool did anything with this drummer, it may or may not have been good, but that's not this. This is bad.
Dreamtheater writing for an orchestra is exactly what no one needs to hear. they're good at two things: practicing scales, and sucking their own egotistical dicks. everything they do is safe. they've never done anything with real meaning and they never will.
I never said writing for an orchestra made anyone cool, or that it makes them good musicians, but it certainly means that "wanking" is not all they are capable of. Apparently you didn't bother to listen to any of Score.
yeah, "cz838"...you'd better, uh, stick with DREAM THEATER bwahahah...they make nice, shiny recordings with lots of glossy synths tracked direct and no unpleasant...SURPRISES.
wow, uh ... good one? was there even a point to that?
I've yet to see anyone come up with anything other than "LoL DT am bad becouse shred LoL" rather than a logical thought process, but again that's not the point.
apparently everyone here sucks so I will now troll.
not bad because shred, bad because pompous. And no I didn't bother to listen to "score" because I already know I don't like their ideas and style, whether they are playing violins, spoons, Banjoes or computers. BTW 'Troll' you must have heard this track what, 4 or 5 times by now, like it yet? ha ha, and yes, LoL
as an "experienced" musician, and an artist viewing and judging things for the general public, i'm going to say, THIS IS WAY MORE THAN YOU COULD EVER HOPE TO COMPREHEND YOU PATHETIC, LIVER TOUNGUED, BOTCHED CROW BRAINED LOBOTOMY PATIENT, FUCK.
Good job. It took you months to come up with that in response to what I said forever ago. Good one. By the way, you might want to consider forming logical thought patterns, instead of forcing yourself to have Tourettes.
haha, that's not the case my small brained friend, since i came across this video merely yesterday.
oh, sorry i can't control my tourettes ALL the time, SHIT BUZZKILL FUCK at least i'm not doomed to a fate where upon Dreamtheater is the end all be all in music, that's pathetic. don't get me wrong, not because they're not talented, they're fucking boring. where are the fruits of all this "training/knowledge" they posses? They're all talent with no soul; it's like saying a machine could make art.
You have no credibility in saying ANYONE is talented or talentless, your band is TERRIBLE and you had about 12 people standing around watching you idiots jump around and not play anything close to bearable, not to mention, the list of nobody-bands on your myspace that you love so much are all incredibly shitty, and yes, I know who most of them are. DT isn't the end-all be-all of music, but saying that their knowledge is fruitless is just saying you don't understand it at all on a musical level.
okay, let's examine this statement, "nobody-bands". If by "nobody-bands" you mean, anything that DOESN'T sound like another carbon copy of disturbed nu-metal, or is hopelessly cheesy and boring like Dream Theater, then yes I LOVE NOBODY-BANDS. especially the strokes, edith piaf, at the drive-in, bjork, the kronos quartet, the foo fighters, and refused who are all by your prior statement these "nobody-bands" that aren't famous and well respected, yet aren't acculterated pop trash
Bands that carry musical weight to their songs are those that are not "nobody bands". But, again, you have absolutely zero credibility because of your lack of knowledge of anything musical. Not to mention, I highly doubt you went through all of DT's 9 albums and said, "This is cheesy and boring."
Dissing DT is just dissing yourself for being such an idiot. It's not like they are my favorite band or some shit, so again I don't know what you plan to accomplish in saying all this pointless crap.
oh, and my point was to prove that 1. you are hopelessly ignorant. 2. fishing erroneous, albeit hilarious commentary, out of you is quite satisfying 3. your rigidity, and lack of flexibility/plasticity of thought would nearly warrant you a mentally ill by todays psycho-analytical standards.
oh, and i almost feel like i have to point this out but, you must obviously realize that your "point" is rendered utterly moot because, all the bands/ singers that i just mentioned in my prior comment, are DEFINITELY famous, well-respected, and wonderful examples of music.
i may enjoy the music in this video, or hella, pg. 99, botch, and saetia, but this is not the only shit i expose myself to.
finally, i'm very glad you don't like my band, good day.
There is no doubt that these guys are insanely talented and, as a drummer, I can only stare in slackjawed disbelief at Zach Hill's display of dexterity (not to mention stamina!).
I know these guys are all about pushing boundaries and taking things to the extreme and, on that front, they doubtlessly succeed. But I like my music to have melody and feeling and not just shredding. These guys make Dream Theater sound downright funky and minimalistic!
If Dream Theater is minimalistic, nothing is real anymore. DT makes these guys sound like foolish high school freshmen who just bought their instruments and started a band "for the lulz." Which, I wouldn't be surprised if they were.
The single greatest musical achievement might be going a little overboard. I mean these guys obviously have some kind of chops but is that everything?
clearly they are both very talented... but this is hard to listen to and i listen to a lot of death metal.. it's just a shredfest.. and while this would be great @ the end of the last song of the night to get off the excess energy.. i can't get into it.
Is it "not music" because it's not what you like, or because it's not what our society is used to? How can you know their motives, ie. saying "they're just learning a trick and eventually they'll go back to normal music", what if this is their passion and you're wrong about them?
At any rate, whether you like the music or not, it seems senseless to put them down for it. Pushing boundaries is great, what harm could come of it?
Should people only commit time and energy to making music that they know will sell? I admire musicians who pursue their own interests at the risk of nobody
liking/buying it. A band I do love is Yowie. I can listen to that CD over and over and it sounds sick. I can hardly pin down a melody in the whole thing (the rhythms are pretty complex too but the sound is nothing as extreme as in this clip).
I want to know... who says that "music" has a discernible melody? That its rhythm has to be catchy? What is "music"? If you don't like this, I understand... I'd have a hard time saying I "like" it too, I mean it isn't very enjoyable to sit and listen to. But I can appreciate what they're doing, and the skill, precision, and endurance it takes to do it.
Not to long ago, to play Jazz was to be musically open minded. And if we have ran out of ideas, and this is what we need to play/listen to in order to become "muscially open minded", then I think we don´t have a bright future to look forward to. That´s my two cents.
But hey, those guys are really tallented. Killer guitarist, killer drummer, love em to bits, but I think that this is nothing more then a cool prank that wont make any standing impression within the music scene.
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210allam 4 months ago
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210allam 4 months ago
*your. sorry im drunk
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Rephuze 4 months ago
This is not improvised is it? If not then that's some pretty crazy music to memorize and feel simultaneously!
pr0llyn0t 1 year ago
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I don't think he is feeling anything to be quite honest. This barely qualifies as "sound," let alone music.
Carthsgtr 10 months ago
@Carthsgtr
you barely qualify as human
DuskFiend 4 months ago
@DuskFiend
And you DO qualify as a wanker.
Carthsgtr 4 months ago
@Carthsgtr
diverge your energy towards justin bieber videos, would you?
DuskFiend 4 months ago
@DuskFiend
As odd as it may sound, Bieber has a greater understanding and talent in music that this pretentious goat fucker may ever hope to.
I will repeat it again; this man may as well be playing random notes as these nonsensical rhythms and complete lack harmony and melody have NO musical merit what so ever. Talent? Maybe. Pretentious wank tard? I think that's pretty fucking obvious.
Carthsgtr 4 months ago
@Carthsgtr dude....you suck and you couldnt even play 10 seconds of this shittt!!!! 100000000x better than youre shitty dire straits cover. and cmon man!! at 4:05??????? you wish you could hammer like that!!! suck my kawk
210allam 4 months ago
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I wish I could construct my sentences as well as you that's for sure. I don't think I could find a logical argument anywhere to rebut such an eloquently written post as yours. Kudos.
(You are an idiot)
Carthsgtr 4 months ago
@Carthsgtr at least try and listen to the music they are playing. It's obviously not improvisation the entire way through.
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@Carthsgtr
I think what's pretty fucking obvious, judging by the way you speak, is that you're a pretentious wanktard. Maybe some people don't suckle the teat of harmony and melody exclusively? You're setting everything to an almost industrial standard. Yeah, money, etc. At least Mick's not so closed-minded and confined in his artistic tastes as yourself. You don't like it. Get over it. In all of his "talent and harmony", I don't give two shits about Bieber. You dont see me crying overit
DuskFiend 4 months ago
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It is my personal belief that without harmony and melody or at the very least, organized rhythmic ideas, it is on the borderline of being classified as music at all. Even with the definition of "music is organized sound" I do not believe that this fits the category. In all honesty, I quite liked the youtube clip of his solo playing at The Stone in NY, but I think that passing this off as art is INCREDIBLY pretentious. Simply pushing borders for the sake of it isn't clever.
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@Carthsgtr i think trying to pass your comment off as an insightful, well researched, and credible critique on modern avant garde music is incredibly pretentious. there is plenty of harmony, rhythm, and melodic motifs in this song, but it happens at such a rapid pace that it's difficult for even the most attentive listener to identify what the hell is going on, and that's why i love it.
SB87JB 3 months ago 7
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You're sick in the head and I feel terribly sorry for you.
Carthsgtr 3 months ago
@Carthsgtr nah i just know more about music then you do.
SB87JB 3 months ago 5
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Well let me rephrase that for you as you don't seem to know how to adequately construct a valid, grammatically correct or intelligent sentence.
"No, I just know more about BULLSHIT than you"
And to that I say, you are correct.
Carthsgtr 3 months ago
@Carthsgtr That certainly was an intelligent sentence. Well, it's unfortunate you think this music is bullshit. I'm sure a lot of your favorite artists don't feel the same way.
SB87JB 3 months ago 4
mick barr is the fastest guitarist in the world hes insane
smallz120 1 year ago
thats a big ass bass drum
watwatwhywat 1 year ago
is this tape in real time?
madzorkis 1 year ago
GAWD DAYUM !!!
justinsanesaid12 2 years ago
im guessing zach is playing a double pedal, could someone please fill me in?
ApacheLabel 2 years ago
Actually, he's not. He plays with one bass drum and a single bass drum pedal, that fast bastard.
lekestove 2 years ago
Two of the best shredders in the same room. Dangerous shit.
they've got to be pretty tired after
poopoojohnson 2 years ago
it just sounds like a guitar solo and a drum solo being played at the same time. Until you get to 4:30 at least.
harveydeadman 2 years ago
this would be alot better if the disortion wasnt so obnoxious, if it wasnt all muddled together i think it would be easier to listen to and prolly sound pretty cool
chevpowr 2 years ago
This is cool but way to long.
miketalbot4 2 years ago
yes
Chus666 2 years ago
this is my favorite video to jack off to
BoomBoxJakey 2 years ago 18
Looking at it again, I think I get it now. There actually is a structure in the peice, and measures. They are difficult to discern, but they are there. It seems the guitar and drums are trying to play in perfect note-for-note harmony. Kinda weird, and kinda cool at the same time.
Draugoth 2 years ago
I think that's Zach Hill's philosophy about his drumming if I remember correctly. In Modern Drummer a while back he talked about how he saw himself more as a horn player or guitarist on the drums instead of someone who keeps time.
kenny1324 2 years ago
more noise please haha love it
boogster123321 2 years ago 2
sure this is fun, but it gets old fast
jhop5150 2 years ago
this is incredible. sticklers who don't like it are pimply guitar dorks and not musicians or artists. they should go back to satch.
greenespltd 2 years ago
I tried to appreciate this for art's sake, but at the end of it all, I have no idea what they are trying to say.
biswasmd 2 years ago
simply because they can. they probably think its funny
strongbad102 2 years ago
My favourite part of this video was.. 9:59
ScreamingCovers 2 years ago 3
what a bunch of pussies on youtube my god. Fuck scales fuck song structure fuck harmony just watch in awe as these two men create these beautiful sounds. I love this shit.
LionSlicer 2 years ago 3
make no mistakes about it. these guys are not fooling around. whether or not its music you listen to for enjoyment, they're playing extremely difficult compositions in sync with one another. somewhere around 1:50 its distinct enough to hear the drummer doing fills while the guitarist sweeps notes in perfect rhythmic harmony
gutshotFilms 2 years ago
omfg this is the worst thing I've ever heard. Like wow. ok you can play fast, but HOLY FUCK PLAY IN A SCALE OR SOMETHING FOR GODS SAKE! IT SOUNDS LIKE A RETARD ON SPEED IN TRYING TO PLAY GUITAR.
Xmetalhead69 2 years ago
Play in a scale? tell that to Schönberg or Lutoslawski. Read something about contemporary music. By the way, both are dead... Keep riffing metalhead, do the helicopter
noizer666 2 years ago
If this is what 'contemporary music' sounds like, I'll pass.
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anAncientegyptian 2 years ago
......are you seriously judging everyone on earth who creates music right now by watching a single youtube video? that, my friend, is ignorant.
anAncientegyptian 2 years ago 2
... no? who said I was judging anyone, except this guitarist, who thinks that by playing as fast as he can, which admitedly is incredible, hes making music. this is not music. this is literally jerking off a guitar, and there is no melody, no composition, and no thought put into this.
Xmetalhead69 2 years ago
oh, well contemporary music means any that is being written present day. techinically this is music. music doesnt necessarily have to have a melody, a distinct composition, or much thought put into it. if youre going to take that standpoint you could say that most metal isnt music either. i myself dont really enjoy listening to this. i love hella though.
anAncientegyptian 2 years ago
we ALL love hella
minibikedude04 2 years ago
I'm sure other people might enjoy this, but I just did not. And dont come telling me to fuck off and telling me this guy is amazing for playing that fast that long, i mean sure hes fast, but as far as i hear, hes not clean, i dont know if he does that on purpose or not. And I just think its kinda unmelodic, but hey, each to his own, i'll go listen to something else instead.
Emil315 2 years ago
agreed.
thecall4 2 years ago
I'm a fan of Hella myself, but this video is too much for me to handle. I prefer their songs as opposed to their fooling around.
EuclidianProposition 2 years ago
yes i understand that its not difficult, n there jus seziuring out on the instruments the whole time! i seen these guys live once, it was good fer a laugh, there was a guy in yellow jump suit, freakin out on the keyboard, very haliarous, when i sit down on the toliet to take a shit, it sounds alot better then this
k2plasma 2 years ago
is this a shred fest? or is this rehearsed note for note jams?
ryeb86 3 years ago
Dude, my band totally covers this.
capmkrob 3 years ago 11
fucking sweet
StreetSpirit008 3 years ago
You ripped off the t-pain's Low.
Look it up
ihatecarebears1 3 years ago
....
brucethekid4306 3 years ago
God that sounds like horse garbage. What in gods name is that terrible sound.
SMWhit3out 3 years ago
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funny shit, people talkin bout these guys being good, if u considering seizuring out on an instrument good, well yeah these guys are jus the bomb eh. these guys opened up at a concert i was at, it was good fer a laugh, remeber like it was yesterday! little yellow jump suit guy seizuring out on his keyboard screamin into the microphone, funny how people say the drums are good, i knew i took special precautions not to turn out as shitty as this zach hill person,this shit is really sick..SICKENING
k2plasma 3 years ago
Do you understand the sheer difficulty of playing for this speed for this long? If you don't like it, that's fine, but that doesn't mean other people can't enjoy it. Just avoid it for yourself.
MorfGworfmim 2 years ago
cool , reminds me of ruins
dweller88 3 years ago
this is just insaaaaaaaaaaaaaane. my mind is gonna blow up!
DPRKLiberator 3 years ago
I actualy perfer the drummer in orthrelm... I don't know I like this and everything but he's got less of a wall of noise, and seemingly more inflection, specificaly in his high hat, especialy in the orthrelm thingy on teh youtube.
pvcpipe 3 years ago
...this is so weird...when I first heard Zach Hill I was like "wow he's the Mick Barr of the drums"...and now they're playing together as I watch...all I can say is...wankery music at it's best...
progandother 3 years ago
I was in class today, thinking about how awesome this was, and I threw up my mind.
jabbatherabba 3 years ago
If you think this is random noise and just wankery, get the album, "Shred Earthship". Give it two listens, a few tracks at a time. You still won't be able to sing a melody and barely a rhythm from it apart on a couple of occurences, but you'll understand what is their point.
It's kinda alien morse code, especially Zach Hill's right foot (bass drum). Sheets of sound wash over you, and it's really soothing. You can listen to it at low volume to go to sleep. It's anything but spastic and hectic.
tobilius 3 years ago 3
Speaker of the truth.
TriEdge36 3 years ago
i'm a fan of hella and all but this is kind of just noise. no offense.
zenbassie03 3 years ago
expression. I was lucky enough to bear witness to the superhuman powers of Zach Hill when Hella played @ Local 506, a tiny club in Chapel Hill, NC. I've seen many excellent concerts, and I will see many more before I die; I am quite certain that I will never see a more mindblowing display of drumming skills. From the very first note played all the way up until the last - Zach Hill played with an unrelenting tenacity that seemed to break the laws of nature. I stopped by to see 2 good friends
antelopehue 3 years ago
if you close the comments then i can't chime in...First I would like to say that whoever made the comment: "I just came a rainbow" - sorry i am not going to wade through the negative tripe to look up the username - you Sir (or Mam) made my day! Had i been imbibing a beverage at that moment my computer monitor would be ruined. Secondly, I wanted to share with the folks who truly love music and are thankful that someone was captured a rare instance of musicians out on the frontier of a musical
antelopehue 3 years ago
i agree.
210rich 3 years ago
someone close the comments to this video so these ninnys can pay attention to the shredage rather than ramble about their insignificant opinions.
jackiechung101 3 years ago
I'm sorry, yes this must be techinically VERY hard. But in the end it just sounds like crap.
masterofscotland 3 years ago
That sounds like absolute shit. He needs to learn to not shred and actually play.
FruschendrixFan01 3 years ago
their cd is called Shred Earthship. haha He doesnt want to, but he could easily
Colenelly 3 years ago
Jesus christ, i just came a rainbow.
Loliicon 3 years ago
oh my god.
killerdynam0 3 years ago
Man most of you little retards are so simple minded. Hate em cause u ain't em
ace0vspades 3 years ago
There's a difference between being simple-minded and disliking this piece of shit. I listen to all kinds of jazz and progressive, and I still think this is terrible, so I don't think there is much of a correlation with being simple-minded. By the way, it's actually natural to dislike shit, so, go figure, not a lot of people like this.
cz838 3 years ago
Weasal Walters,
You are to form a trio with Mick Barr and Zach Hill, you are to destroy free jazz once and for all... Do it.
Calbee
snapcult 3 years ago
FTL
saladsfriend 3 years ago
Never listen to metal. Listen to this. All the time, forever.
siouxday 3 years ago
ZACH HILL IS GOD. Not really, but a damn good drummer he is.
Extremedrummer89 3 years ago 3
OUCH! My stomach is killing me! 9:59 of it...they should be the poster boys for Jolt Cola. Gotta add this to my favorites.
grouch9704 3 years ago
It's not like this is the only thing these two have done. This was just kind of an experimental side project. It's interesting.
devinigh89 3 years ago
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WTF??? Am I supposed to be impressed with this wankfest??? It's pointless compared to other great stylistic players.
sophiegromit 3 years ago
you're not supposed to be. either you appreciate the energy it provides or you go find a band with more 'point' style.
doggysti3s 3 years ago
omg..mick barr is my new hero
utubegs 3 years ago
the fucke dup part is that the guitarist has albums of this crazy shredding memorized...theres one with zach hill "shredearthship" but the crazier stuff is with a drum machine. octis....the best one is orthrelm...its fuckin crazy
itscrawford 3 years ago
if any drummer in the world is allowed to lose a drumstick, is mr. Zach Hill. What a blast!
Hurkmaniacs 3 years ago
okay...i give props to the drummer for playing so fast and clean for so long.theres definitely something to be said for that.
but i'm sorry- does anybody else feel like this is really just a lame, too long video of wanking off?
why would people go out and play this to others?
i dunno- i'm gettin nothin outta this. haha
metalfan8806 3 years ago
EPIC WIN
cz838 3 years ago
The idea of that music is much better than the music itself. Still, you have to give props to the musicians, who so skillfully transpose the idea to their instruments.
xTheOxx 4 years ago
I am amazed that he can play that fast for that long, But just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
xxTremulantxx 4 years ago
I am amazed that he can play that fast, But just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
xxTremulantxx 4 years ago
This is surely the natural progression of free jazz. Zach Hill is the most amazing piece of machinery ever built.
closedmouth 4 years ago 2
barr is buckethead
imgoingtwosidegravy 4 years ago
It's no wonder why Mick Barr is one of Behold... The Arctopus' greatest influences.
I want a high quality audio recording of this... lol
musicman112488 4 years ago
Wow.
They are so goddamn talented.
musicman112488 4 years ago
That's some bitching stamina.
LordOigamus 4 years ago
They are pouring this shit from the goddamn soul given to them from the great universe above. Shut the fuck up and enjoy.
meindlig 4 years ago
No. Bad. Fucking bad. Bleeding from the ears bad. You see, it's like kind of like really easy math.
Sounding good > technical prowess.
Therefore this = bad.
cz838 4 years ago
america may still be redeemed if these guys play the superbowl halftime show
misterherman 4 years ago 2
that would be the single-most greatest event ever. the world may end though.
Phunkman9 4 years ago
hes not that good its not clean
paul gilbert is way better!!
guitarupfrontt 4 years ago
I would definitely head to a gig to see that in person.
abyssalservant 4 years ago
bad.
cz838 4 years ago
you're bad.
freejazzfree 4 years ago
of course its hard to listen to! of course its not melodic (in any conventional sense)! this isnt even necessarily about doing what one would connote as 'good music'! its challenging and intense.
freejazzfree 4 years ago
I wonder if this could actually sound good if played in slow-mo
catalatregua 4 years ago
As an experienced musician I'm going to say no, not at all.
cz838 4 years ago
"As an experience musician..."
Awesome dude. Well, let me personally thank you for inspiring people with your groundbreaking music.
TylerStDa 4 years ago
*experienced
Let me also note that regardless of your opinion on it, there's more happening here than most are ready to admit upon first listen. Maybe it's not your thing, but not just anyone could create this.
TylerStDa 4 years ago
No. Bad. Fucking bad. Bleeding from the ears bad. You see, it's like kind of like really easy math.
Sounding good > technical prowess.
Therefore this = bad.
I can hit Randomize on a music program and memorize that and play it really fast, which is about all you'd need to write something similar, if not almost exactly like, this. But it sounds terrible. So I don't.
cz838 4 years ago
This is improvised music. They didn't "write" it. Also, I noticed you favorited a Les Claypool track. Les Claypool has done some work with this drummer...but I guess they're all just talentless hacks living it up by "randomizing" music in a program and playing it really fast. Get real, dude. Dream Theater? Give me a break. Pure wankery. No thanks. Go back to listening to Buckethead. His new track on Guitar Hero 7 is going to be incredible brah!
TylerStDa 4 years ago
LOL
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So many things wrong with this comment, Not going to bother to take it apart. I hate guitar hero.
cz838 4 years ago
You're pretty thick, aren't you?
TylerStDa 4 years ago
Depends what you mean by thick.
Look, if DT is pure wankery, (Even though they wrote and composed music for an entire fucking ORCHESTRA on their Score DVD/CD - which, if you'd given it any type of listen, you would know is NOT "wankery" - as well as having some songs with some instruments entirely absent, thus impossible to "wank" on) I don't even KNOW what to call this. I don't care if Claypool did anything with this drummer, it may or may not have been good, but that's not this. This is bad.
cz838 4 years ago
Dreamtheater writing for an orchestra is exactly what no one needs to hear. they're good at two things: practicing scales, and sucking their own egotistical dicks. everything they do is safe. they've never done anything with real meaning and they never will.
sexualplumbing 4 years ago
Sounds like someone made a 2-song judgment. Boy, I wish you knew what you were talking about. Obvious troll is obvious. Gtfo.
*Mike Portnoy is good at sucking his own egotistical dick -Fix'd
cz838 4 years ago
Writing for an ORCHESTRA doesnt automatically make you cool or a good musician.
plus I dont understand your absent wank statement? Are you saying the tracks would be in their least wanky forms if all the instruments were absent?
As its DREAM THEATER we are talking about I guess the answer would be yes.
This music is brave,technical,individual, and more futuristic than any of the cheesy 'fusion' crap I've ever heard
EtcEtcAndEtc 4 years ago
I never said writing for an orchestra made anyone cool, or that it makes them good musicians, but it certainly means that "wanking" is not all they are capable of. Apparently you didn't bother to listen to any of Score.
cz838 4 years ago
yeah, "cz838"...you'd better, uh, stick with DREAM THEATER bwahahah...they make nice, shiny recordings with lots of glossy synths tracked direct and no unpleasant...SURPRISES.
nondor13 4 years ago
wow, uh ... good one? was there even a point to that?
I've yet to see anyone come up with anything other than "LoL DT am bad becouse shred LoL" rather than a logical thought process, but again that's not the point.
apparently everyone here sucks so I will now troll.
TROLL REPORTING. YOU ALL ARE GAY FAGGOTS.
cz838 4 years ago
not bad because shred, bad because pompous. And no I didn't bother to listen to "score" because I already know I don't like their ideas and style, whether they are playing violins, spoons, Banjoes or computers. BTW 'Troll' you must have heard this track what, 4 or 5 times by now, like it yet? ha ha, and yes, LoL
EtcEtcAndEtc 4 years ago
You're very confused and have the poorest of tastes.
Enjoy Sammy Hagar!
nondor13 4 years ago
why dont you just go prog crazy
UrineBath 3 years ago
haha, what kind of experience buddy??
garage band??
lmao
as an "experienced" musician, and an artist viewing and judging things for the general public, i'm going to say, THIS IS WAY MORE THAN YOU COULD EVER HOPE TO COMPREHEND YOU PATHETIC, LIVER TOUNGUED, BOTCHED CROW BRAINED LOBOTOMY PATIENT, FUCK.
that is all.
naota3220 3 years ago
Good job. It took you months to come up with that in response to what I said forever ago. Good one. By the way, you might want to consider forming logical thought patterns, instead of forcing yourself to have Tourettes.
cz838 3 years ago
haha, that's not the case my small brained friend, since i came across this video merely yesterday.
oh, sorry i can't control my tourettes ALL the time, SHIT BUZZKILL FUCK at least i'm not doomed to a fate where upon Dreamtheater is the end all be all in music, that's pathetic. don't get me wrong, not because they're not talented, they're fucking boring. where are the fruits of all this "training/knowledge" they posses? They're all talent with no soul; it's like saying a machine could make art.
naota3220 3 years ago
You have no credibility in saying ANYONE is talented or talentless, your band is TERRIBLE and you had about 12 people standing around watching you idiots jump around and not play anything close to bearable, not to mention, the list of nobody-bands on your myspace that you love so much are all incredibly shitty, and yes, I know who most of them are. DT isn't the end-all be-all of music, but saying that their knowledge is fruitless is just saying you don't understand it at all on a musical level.
cz838 3 years ago
okay, let's examine this statement, "nobody-bands". If by "nobody-bands" you mean, anything that DOESN'T sound like another carbon copy of disturbed nu-metal, or is hopelessly cheesy and boring like Dream Theater, then yes I LOVE NOBODY-BANDS. especially the strokes, edith piaf, at the drive-in, bjork, the kronos quartet, the foo fighters, and refused who are all by your prior statement these "nobody-bands" that aren't famous and well respected, yet aren't acculterated pop trash
naota3220 3 years ago
Bands that carry musical weight to their songs are those that are not "nobody bands". But, again, you have absolutely zero credibility because of your lack of knowledge of anything musical. Not to mention, I highly doubt you went through all of DT's 9 albums and said, "This is cheesy and boring."
Dissing DT is just dissing yourself for being such an idiot. It's not like they are my favorite band or some shit, so again I don't know what you plan to accomplish in saying all this pointless crap.
cz838 3 years ago
i have friends that absolutely love "DT" and obviously, since they've wanted to get me into it, i've been exposed to a lot of their "material".
but, i don't even need to listen to a fuckload of it, get me?
it's has no creative spark, passion, or any ounce of viable human playfulness, therefore it is utterly cheesy and depressing uninteresting.
i like machines, but not humans trying to be/emulate them, fucking pathetic.
(continued)
naota3220 3 years ago
(continuation)
oh, and my point was to prove that 1. you are hopelessly ignorant. 2. fishing erroneous, albeit hilarious commentary, out of you is quite satisfying 3. your rigidity, and lack of flexibility/plasticity of thought would nearly warrant you a mentally ill by todays psycho-analytical standards.
i have to stop, this is too fun.
goodbye loser.
naota3220 3 years ago
Still talking... still no credibility... still nothing useful to say...
cz838 3 years ago
acculturated*
oh, and i almost feel like i have to point this out but, you must obviously realize that your "point" is rendered utterly moot because, all the bands/ singers that i just mentioned in my prior comment, are DEFINITELY famous, well-respected, and wonderful examples of music.
i may enjoy the music in this video, or hella, pg. 99, botch, and saetia, but this is not the only shit i expose myself to.
finally, i'm very glad you don't like my band, good day.
naota3220 3 years ago
3:55...
TylerStDa 4 years ago
that was probably one of the most annoying songs i've ever heard. I wish these guys could take their talents and just write good music
papateacup 4 years ago
all of their songs are written.
lookatyourshoe 4 years ago
nope, the songs on shred earthship is all stream of conciousness, like zack said in an interview, they are having a conversation
RedOnChrome 4 years ago
One of the funniest things I've seen in a while, lol...thanks for the laugh.
polishcomedy 4 years ago
Sure they can play fast...but are they capable of playing music?
TheMerchantOfBling 4 years ago
there are different kinds of music of which you might not be aware.
lookatyourshoe 4 years ago
I just think it's cool that Zach can remember the songs.
It's probably easy though, since he made the songs.
liontotheeast 4 years ago
There is no doubt that these guys are insanely talented and, as a drummer, I can only stare in slackjawed disbelief at Zach Hill's display of dexterity (not to mention stamina!).
I know these guys are all about pushing boundaries and taking things to the extreme and, on that front, they doubtlessly succeed. But I like my music to have melody and feeling and not just shredding. These guys make Dream Theater sound downright funky and minimalistic!
crossland0973 4 years ago 3
i dunno man, OV is one of the best minimalist records i've heard in a while.
and to back that one up wikipedia (dot) org /wiki/Minimalist_music#Minimalist_style_in_music
emmettotter 4 years ago
If Dream Theater is minimalistic, nothing is real anymore. DT makes these guys sound like foolish high school freshmen who just bought their instruments and started a band "for the lulz." Which, I wouldn't be surprised if they were.
cz838 4 years ago
The single greatest musical achievement might be going a little overboard. I mean these guys obviously have some kind of chops but is that everything?
edcerc 4 years ago
clearly they are both very talented... but this is hard to listen to and i listen to a lot of death metal.. it's just a shredfest.. and while this would be great @ the end of the last song of the night to get off the excess energy.. i can't get into it.
shadowlorde 4 years ago
AWESOME!!!
wolowolowolo 4 years ago
Is it "not music" because it's not what you like, or because it's not what our society is used to? How can you know their motives, ie. saying "they're just learning a trick and eventually they'll go back to normal music", what if this is their passion and you're wrong about them?
At any rate, whether you like the music or not, it seems senseless to put them down for it. Pushing boundaries is great, what harm could come of it?
theradpotato 4 years ago 2
Should people only commit time and energy to making music that they know will sell? I admire musicians who pursue their own interests at the risk of nobody
liking/buying it. A band I do love is Yowie. I can listen to that CD over and over and it sounds sick. I can hardly pin down a melody in the whole thing (the rhythms are pretty complex too but the sound is nothing as extreme as in this clip).
theradpotato 4 years ago 3
I want to know... who says that "music" has a discernible melody? That its rhythm has to be catchy? What is "music"? If you don't like this, I understand... I'd have a hard time saying I "like" it too, I mean it isn't very enjoyable to sit and listen to. But I can appreciate what they're doing, and the skill, precision, and endurance it takes to do it.
theradpotato 4 years ago 2
this is a pile of shit and i cant stop laughing!!
JazzyFresh93 4 years ago
its real jazzy fresh
freejazzfree 4 years ago
that was shit you convicts
thunderrabbit123 4 years ago
That's one awesome explosion of noise !
DGYDP 4 years ago
this user needs to disable comments because clearly, none of these idiots have a slight iota of what they are talking about.
wearethose 4 years ago
Catchy.
AlbertEdmonson 4 years ago
hahahahahahaha.
notthatpunk 4 years ago
wow, sounds like just a bunch of noise.
underoath4211 4 years ago
Not to long ago, to play Jazz was to be musically open minded. And if we have ran out of ideas, and this is what we need to play/listen to in order to become "muscially open minded", then I think we don´t have a bright future to look forward to. That´s my two cents.
But hey, those guys are really tallented. Killer guitarist, killer drummer, love em to bits, but I think that this is nothing more then a cool prank that wont make any standing impression within the music scene.
/Rickard
Ikuinen 4 years ago
rickard the gimp
dwainegibson 4 years ago
well that was a waste of space. jävla horunge.
Ikuinen 4 years ago
fuck yeah
Sylomal 4 years ago