Ingmar Lazar (13 years old) Chopin Sonata No.2 1st mvt.

[Wildows1]

Que desastre 

[Mentchikov]

Il y a évidemment de la technique pianistique mais le tempo est prit beaucoup trop lent pour que cela puisse rendre de l'âme au morceau. Le morceau n'est pas non plus maîtrisé dans les nuances. Je préfère bien évidemment la version de Ivo Pogorelich plus sensible

[uhartchristian]

finally the decision to go to study in germany with Krainev was a clever choice.

hope he will find back his way to france and french culture after the studies over there. Its important to realize the career but its important also to build up a good life.

[xyqzcxzx]

The repeat actually should include the grave. There was a mistake in the 1840 German edition, and since then most people have wrongly started the repeat from bar 5. The 1840 French and English editions both include the grave in the repeat.

[lovesGenet]

Wow so forceful. He really understands this music. What a surprise .Masterful!

[BandiditoGangsterito]

Awesome work!

Very talented young man!

[Paulo78180]

Il participe au Concours Chopin 2010

[michal1810]

Awful ediion

Repetition should be played without Grave

[michellelynne8]

@michal1810 Unfortunately Michal you are mistaken; the repeat dots at the beginning of the fifth bar were added as mistake in editing. If you read Charles Rosen's the Romantic Generation you will understand.

[michal1810]

5:36 - kulminacja nie trzyma się po prostu kupy

zaczyna nie wiadomo kiedy i nie wiadomo jak

i robi co chce

fe chłopcze fe

Pogorelich gra ten moment najfajniej

[uhartchristian]

its now more than 2 years ago he recorded this. what in the meantime happened to this talented young man? we want to hear more !!!!!!!

Its incredible, we haave here a talent like Martha Argerich was..... she did the schuman concerto at 10 years old.

[msmusicmarg]

Extremely talented young man.  Great future ahead of him.

[Gida1991]

wow... :)

[ryanminga]

good job!!!!!!!!!!!!! keep playing!

[Nissor]

Thanks to God that he give people like Ingmar to us.

[aimcat72]

again, very very fast hands

[OfficialKarlosPiano]

Congratulations!

You're awesome

[seasofpoppies]

Wondrous. Thank you for uploading this.

[scorpot]

nice playing , Great Skill .

Keep Going on .

[rodstartube]

just playing notes

[kjw163]

give the guy a break for christ's sake....he's 13 !

[crisandrin]

sorry, but without feeling..

[extralargos]

is not for child

[benoitmaur]

très beau ! .. j

bravo à Igmar quand même génial.

merci.

[soami2u]

Definitely NOT a piece for children...still he does remarkably well for his age. Why the repetition of the Grave? It's not indicated in any edition I've ever seen before (the repeat begins @ Doppio movimento, measure 5)...this tends to rob the movement of power and impact. Some aspects of his interpretation betray a slight musical immaturity, but this is still very impressive for a kid! I'm sure Ingmar will own this piece 20 years from now!

[JimiHendrixANDVADER]

Well on the Paderewski edition it just repeats but not to the entire introduction of the exposition. I don't think some one this age should play this piece. When he gets

older he will completely master it.

[pianopera]

@soami2u I agree with you! Surely, it was a mistake to also repeat the "Grave" introduction...but apart from that, I thought it was surprisingly mature playing for a 13 years old!

[lyralary]

j'ai rencontré ce pianiste en herbe lors d'un concours. c'était impressionant, comme sur les vidéos. il deviendra certainement quelque chose.

[poisednwiped]

Reminiscent of a young Horowitz or Janis.

[jazzmangiant]

Piano just seems so lonely...You don't get the pleasure of being a part of a huge group of people all the time. That seems to be a great thing about music that just grand piano in general lacks.

[Polskapan]

You naysayers are a joke. This boy is very well trained, and his talents and dedication prove sound.

[carrottec88]

and in the contrary, just after that, i don't hear the stretto uh

[carrottec88]

also if he's 13 years old, i hate his interpretation and the way he thinks the music is...

at 2.03 he's really losing the tempo! it's not written like that...

[addeex1]

True it´s not written like that but the good with Chopins music is that you play how you feel, how you read the music. So if he slowed down he should have a reason, right?

[carrottec88]

so, what chopin wrote was useless.

[addeex1]

Why do you think so? What is music? What´s is worth? What is it not worth?

[carrottec88]

so, why he did the Agitato written ? Why he did the doppio movimento ?? all that was written by chopin

[addeex1]

So you mean that agitato means spinning/moving or I don´t remember. Is that 140 bmp?

No! Thats your opinion! Chopin means to play it spinning, then it´s up to YOU how you interpret the spinning.

Shit please !!

[carrottec88]

yea i know that, of course he has to do the agitato as he feel it, but he has to do the stretto too as he feel, and i dont think he feel it by decelerating.

of course yes you have to find by yourself all what the indication chopin put.

[addeex1]

Ok goed, we´re done, it doesn´t sound 100% right in my ears. Btw In my last reply I didn´t mean "Shit please!" I meant "Shit! Please!"xD

[luckeyjojo]

loll,I never played chopin's piano music,but you played very well,I'm 12.I should learn from u!come on!!

[terryregnar]

Hats off! A genius!

[goldenthroat86]

Nice...Cant wait to see where he goes in about 10 years.

[Rubinstein007]

amazing

cant stop listen to the beginning till 1:08

beautiful

[OorvakanSar]

Amazing

[JazzzIQ]

one of very few pianist, who plays correct repetition

[klodomyr]

ingmar we are so lucky for you to stay at our house your now 15 as of sunday you play beautiful

[astronomo16]

Está comiendo un chicle xD?

[ilovechopinprelude]

good job! Your playing is very good and you are progressing with this piece wonderfully. But, at the age of 13 how can one grasp the complex emotional state of Chopin at this time in his compostional life... there is not enough life experiance!!! This really is my only conflict of this piece, your playing GREAT. But if you cannot understand the depths of Chopin soul and he as a romantic being, or psuedolove, this piece is not possible. Please look at this comment in the most possitive way

[voolare]

I would prefer less pedaling and a more subtle left hand. This kid is very musical and I hope he will develop a more sophisticated conception of rythm.

[soccergrl412]

he doesnt have any notes look:0

[MJGriftz]

Poor kid's hands are so small that he's straining...

[mauriciostarosta]

There's a discussion about the repeat of this movement. Most pianists don't play the repeat from the beginning. But pianist and writer Charles Rosen proved in his book The Romantic Generation, that the repeat should be made from the beginning!!!

[serox901]

outta curiosity, how far do your hands reach?

[Isayiwill]

Old tpc, b interesting: The first bars cannot possibly be omitted in the repetition. I just heard Horowitz doing that, the result being really wierd, making no sense at all. With the initial bars, as heard here, the effect is stunning: The unexpected key modulation serves perfectly as an abrupt lead back to the harsh reality of the basic theme.

I haven't heard anyone repeat it at all before, so this adds a new dimension to my perception of the sonata. Good playing!

[jsw663]

It's ok for you to make comments, mako, but it would be wise to remember that some of us understand languages other than English as well.

[Yuff]

He is really awesome and I admire him!

[jsw663]

Some basic mistakes exist, e.g. the repeat. You don't play the first 4 bars on the second time you play the beginning passage.

For the quiet parts, the top voice needs to be more complete and move forward. Expression falters here.

The 6/4 time part is sped up too much. One 6/4 bar is played in almost half the time as a 2/2 bar.

Much potential and obvious natural talent. Under the right teacher, will become a professional.

[jsw663]

Yes I admit I didn't realize this but klodomyr pointed this out to me. Maybe I've been listening to the "wrong" version for too many years, because the "wrong" version sounds natural to me!!!

[jsw663]

Regarding your advice, I am familiar enough with the piece to the extent I don't have to play it on the piano - it's in my head. But like any good student, I am prepared to alter what I've learned before. Would you?

[qwertyproulx]

Yes, his tone lacks continuity at some points, but he is young and, please, do you realise that your comments are an insult to his present teacher?

[jsw663]

OK his present teacher is obviously good, or else you wouldn't be able to teach klodomyr to his present standard. However, there are many refinements that need to be made and I feel he is ready to move on to the very best in the world. Don't you think so?

[chaos4u2]

Good work!!! Finally I can hear the 1st movement, and not always the funeral march!! Thanx for sharing, you're very very good!!

[classik51]

Beautiful

[mako162]

This is the first time I hear this sonata played according the true notation of Chopin. I'm speaking about the ritornello. Among the celebrated pianists, the pianists musician -- like Rachmaninov -- do not play the ritornello in order to avoid a bad harmonic passage (not of Chopin) wrongly printed in all editions; the pianist tone-deaf -- like... many and many -- play the ritornello in order to offer a comprehensive performance!!!

Bravo Ingmar! Compliments to your teacher too!

[orpheus63]

great: who is this boy?

he should study with Pogo

[rachmaninif]

wow!incredible performance!i want to play this more than everything.

[prongated]

...every time I hear something like this, I just want to go to the piano and practise in shame ><

[Fedidovisk]

Tirando a idade tocou perfeitamente... agora considere os 13 anos apenas, genial!

[adellerr]

I don't understand anything about music. I can't play any instrument. But I adore this kind of music. It sounds so good. It's like magic. The pianist is a genius.

[YGYGYGYGYGYGYGYGYGYG]

How many hrs/day do you practice? I can't believe you can play like this at 12.

[klodomyr]

For YGYGYGYGYGYGYGYGYGYG. I am one of Ingmar's friends.

He works 4-5 hours a day. He really enjoys it. Thanks a lot for yours comments.

[paulroman13]

A prodigy! He'll be great someday if he is not yet one today.

[klaverfar]

More astonishing than his incredible command of the instrument and mature musicality is his stamina. I mean, hammer your way through 25 minutes of such a nauseating jumble of sounds is impressive by any standard. The world doesn't need more Chopin players, extremely gifted or not. Some more Bach, please Ingmar!

[ssprokofiev]

More Bach, says klaverfar? And Chopin is a nauseating jumble of sounds? Such an unenlightened opinion may not deserve a response, but I'll respond anyway. J.S. Bach did not write music for the piano--so why direct the kid toward him? His Chopin is excellent. Now let's hear his Liszt and Prokofiev, two composers I'm sure klaverfar despises.

[klaverfar]

Yes, ssprokofiev; Richter, Barenboim, Perahia, Gould - to name a few - all thank(ed) their time spent with Bach's fugues for their extraordinary command of the piano. My point is that where as Chopin (and other romantics) tried to make the piano imitate an orchestra, Bach wrote with the keyboard (if you prefere that word for piano), solely in mind; the romantics were more interested in sound in itself, so they were not really writing for a keyboard.

[awatkins69]

Actually, Chopin wrote almost solely for the piano. Except for a very few compositions, which mostly other instruments are just to support the piano.

[klaverfar]

(continued...) And I like Prokofiev in fact (Liszt too), but I don't find them a great school for youngsters learning to play. And to dislike Chopin isn't necessarily an unenlightened opion, no matter how much you disagree.

[ssprokofiev]

To dislike Chopin isn't unenlightened, klavefar, but to call his music "a nauseating jumble of sounds", suggests a lack of understanding. To say the Romantics were not really writing for piano but emulating the orchestra, is totally ridiculous. Where did you ever get that idea? Were they attempting to imitate a double orchestra in their concertos for piano and orchestra?

[scootingscooter]

the piano didn't exist in bach's time people! the harpsichord and clavichord did.

[greekyboy123]

Actually, JSB did come across the very early piano (by Silbermann, I think, but not positive). At this point the piano did'nt have a very large tone, and the great man was unimpressed, preferring to stick with the then more powerful harpsichord. One can only speculate about the effect on Bach's keyboard writing if he had lived long enough to experience the later fortepianos.

[jsw663]

There is a difference between the fortepiano and the pianoforte. The piano we know today is the pianoforte. The fortepiano did exist in JSB's time.

[kantalope]

this kid looks excatly like me, and we are the same age...

to bad i just started taking piano lesson =(

[CapitanCopiaGato]

05:24 - 06:00 Love this part. It sounds like sci-fi.

Wow! Only 12 yrs old!? How was he able to span his hans across big intervals at 12? He's probably got mutant hands.

Anyway, amazing performance of such an exotic piece. 5 stars.

[esojbar]

Yes Capitain, 05:24 - 06:00. I always loved this part. For me it's one of the most beautiful sequences ever composed. It raises like a magic. What a harmony!

[kotachan112]

same thing for me..

Its the best!

[mcrohof]

Absolutely stunning performance.

Beaucoup d'esprit!!! Incredible really..