Man, I remember when that album came out. I tripped-out. It was a bit patchy but I didn't care. I just wanted one more with Jimmy back in. I thought that was it and then Zeitgeist. I double-tripped. My band were back yet again! Just heard the new stuff...yeah, things have moved on...integrity it seems too. Billy on his own without ANY of the other 3 is Billy on his own not the Pumpkins. Ah well. At least Jane's are back with some bite. Hahaha
@kierenmarie Indeed, and far more talented than Darci. If Hole still had her and Eric, they would have put out a good album last year rather than the earsore that Courtney recorded with a bunch of rookies half her age.
nme described billy's image at the time as "gothmetal highpriest".I think it goes well with the tone and concept of Machina and the band's overall sound.
Feeling very hollow... no interactions between members, james stand still like a rock, billy's singing is less powerful... but that's why this moment is beautiful, their last flame.
@kokomo40 James always played like a rock if you pay attention to old and new videos, I like Billy's singing here, Jimmy's playing is full of energy, I obviously miss D'arcy but Melissa does it good too!
Well as you say it's their last flame but I don't get it "Hollow"
@kokomo40 James is probably standing like a rock because he has to aim an ebow. They're a pain in the ass to play with but it's central to the sound of this particular song. This was on live television no less. Not that he ever really jumped around like a Ritalin kid anyhow.
@EvanLouKy Not only that but if you do compare the difference between this show and the early 90's he was more eccentric. I think when this album came out he pretty much checked out and was probably upset that Darcy was no longer with the band, and he was done with Corgan and the rest of the band. Not only this performance but several other ones around the 2000 era you can really see he didn't care to play anymore.
@TroyisNoob Sorry to say. But if she hasn't called you back she probably found another guy. And he's probably dropping a load inside her as we speak =(
ouch my goddamn </3 i miss this kid harder than words or anything. people see how much other people care about you goddamn it! Everyone should love themself and see how awesome we each are, we deserve this.
@20anosdepois It's a nice 335. Epiphone makes the a less expensive version of it which with the right upgrades could sound very close to the Gibson warmth you are hearing here.
@McKennaSays billy doesn't take his songs to seriesly when perfoming live. sometimes it shows but ussualy doesnt ruin the song. if you listen to the acoustic version of mayonaise on earphoria, billy laughs in the song during a really great part in the song. it kind of ruined it.
@MsAlexander747 this is in my top ten tunes of all time specifically for the drum patterns. Truly amazing, jimmy chamberlain also holds no.1 drummer for me as does abe cunningham.
Was always a fan of The Pumpkins but on seeing them live twice they came across a bit underwhelming. Billy's voice on the albums i always liked but he it doesn't sound great live, especially in the early minutes here.
Lol i like Say Anythings live cover of this song alot more... The singer sounds like a fucking faggot in this one and he can't even pronounce the words right...
@Zimpan You're fucking stupid...who cares about live hes the one who fucking made the song in the first place...why dont you compare the Studio version against Say Anything's live version? Smashing Pumpkins rapes "Say Anything". You're stupid
@Zimpan LOLOLOLOL sorry but i totally rofl'd when you said dickface...haha i havent been called a dick face since i was in middle school! hahaha how childish. And Btw, Billy isn't a homosexual. He's never had a bf, and never had feelings for men. He's dated a lot of women, in fact, this song IS about one of his girlfriends...
@Zimpan If that makes me a faggot then I'm the biggest faggot ever :) Though...I don't see how its possible to be a pile of sticks, but whatever floats your boat...
@975mas Yes, Billy Corgan says he's a straight man, fine, but who are you to tell other people that he NEVER had feelings for another man? Did you actually walk in his shoes to know that? Are you actually the real Billy Corgan to make such a bold statement? Those are HIS feelings and only he can confirm them, not some random fan over the internet.
this performance is amazing. and then at 2:40, it just goes LUDICROUSLY amazing. Sounds fucking incredible - and all just looks so effortless. Truly brilliant band
@greenie85 same here many of the smashing pumpkins songs do including tonight, thirty three and many others. Thats why The Smashing Pumpkins is the greatest band of all time period.
This vid really makes me miss james. Jeff can definitely shred but james is the king of atmosphere. His melodies in this performance are just beautiful and add such power to the song.
I agree. Things just fell apart for this band. Potential was there but not all 4 was there after melon collie. It makes me sad because they could have nailed their names in the page of history like the Beatles. I watched them first hand live. Too BAD!
jimmy chamberlin is so fucking good, a drummer mate said when he first heard the pumpkins " is he ortistic or something". bonham or jimmy, who would win in a drum off?
@8bitdeath Well, I wasn't saying that James mindblows and revolutionizes the world of guitar-playing in that video.. I like how this versions' guitars sound and just wanted to give a positive comment about James for a change.
lei la traduccion de este tema creo que me partio al medio porque es algo que me pasa ahora cuando uno quiere a alguien,cuando te pasas las 24 horas del dia pensando en esa persona que queres y sabes que nunca va a estar contigo.simplemente una obra de arte
Is it just me or do the songs on Machina sound better live than recorded. I am not a fan of a lot of the songs on the album but they sound amazing when played live. I think it's because Billy did way to much to the songs in the recorded version it does not sound like the work of a band but of Billy painstakingly setting up the song digitally. I just think that the thing that makes the music good his the personality their music carries. It does not transfer well when it's messed with too much.
I agree. I remember very well that my first impression after having bought the album was that the music felt kind of "sterile" compared to former Pumkins-records.
omg.. u gotta love this guys tone am i right? there are some notes here that are so raspy.. they sound fucking wicked... i could almost see him doing some way darker and maybe more hardcore stuff......
but lol hes probably better at this level with some hapyper music ... but im just saying he could do some pretty crazy doom metal or something
@partyongarth420 Have you listened to the rest of pumpkins music? Almost none of his music his "happy" like this. This song is actually different than most of Billy's music. But still this song kicks ass!
the drums tell a story...
EduGamingReviews 7 hours ago
amazing. such a beautiful song.
KidHollywoodCA 3 days ago
what year was this?
ZeroThirtyThree033 4 days ago
From about 1:16 Jimmy totally dropped the ball at about 1:20, I'm sorry. I love pumpkins but that was AWFUL. Way too fast. The rest is great
plpearl 4 days ago
great music
scgml83 2 weeks ago
Great song.
Rschr101 4 weeks ago
Best love song ever!
poissa5 1 month ago
One of the most joyous high energy songs I've ever heard. Makes the heart pound like crazy, especially the studio version.
hugosalarm 1 month ago
Great song, awesome performance too.
MossySparrow 1 month ago
pshh. well... THAT performance didnt make my head explode or anything...
TheRbucey 2 months ago
God, they were so underrated...
CygnusatratusZ 2 months ago
@CygnusatratusZ Lol, not every band is underrated..
SP was one of the influental bands of the 90's, next to the Grunge scene ofcourse
And they still kick ass in the modern days
grungepolitics 2 months ago in playlist sMasHing PumpKins
golden times
cdbg3 3 months ago
The best music of Smashing Pumpkins!!!!
betotricolor45 3 months ago
Melissa,Auf Der Maur is a fantastic talent on bass
pumpnethyl 3 months ago
29 jealous deaf individuals
pumpnethyl 3 months ago 4
Old or new Pumpkins, doesn't matter, I love them both!
TheChevy0 4 months ago 2
Even if u forget Billy - this is one of the best songs of all time period!
shagster1970 4 months ago
basss drum sounds like paper for some reason lol
teflondon91 4 months ago
@teflondon91 yeah its probably not tuned enough...
975mas 3 months ago
Man, I remember when that album came out. I tripped-out. It was a bit patchy but I didn't care. I just wanted one more with Jimmy back in. I thought that was it and then Zeitgeist. I double-tripped. My band were back yet again! Just heard the new stuff...yeah, things have moved on...integrity it seems too. Billy on his own without ANY of the other 3 is Billy on his own not the Pumpkins. Ah well. At least Jane's are back with some bite. Hahaha
jakeenan 4 months ago
Best line up IMHO
kierenmarie 5 months ago
go on Bill!
Infernal9666 5 months ago
who is the girl? the bass player?
Massiosare89 5 months ago in playlist Harp
@Massiosare89 Mellisa Auf der Maur
kierenmarie 5 months ago
@kierenmarie Hottie! She was also with Hole.
shagster1970 4 months ago
@kierenmarie Indeed, and far more talented than Darci. If Hole still had her and Eric, they would have put out a good album last year rather than the earsore that Courtney recorded with a bunch of rookies half her age.
prettynoose8497 4 months ago
I'm uploading this and the whole Adore/Machina Albums soon
midnightrun09 6 months ago 2
You and me
Meant to be...
avihs78 6 months ago 2
jimmy Chamberlain is the greatest.........
Fondmental 6 months ago 15
@Fondmental I actually didnt really notice just how good he is - its like a friggin machine gun!!
kierenmarie 3 months ago
jodidaaa melissaa muyy jodida!!!!!
bullexe 7 months ago
nme described billy's image at the time as "gothmetal highpriest".I think it goes well with the tone and concept of Machina and the band's overall sound.
RolloNoir 7 months ago
Feeling very hollow... no interactions between members, james stand still like a rock, billy's singing is less powerful... but that's why this moment is beautiful, their last flame.
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kokomo40 7 months ago
@kokomo40 James always played like a rock if you pay attention to old and new videos, I like Billy's singing here, Jimmy's playing is full of energy, I obviously miss D'arcy but Melissa does it good too!
Well as you say it's their last flame but I don't get it "Hollow"
Felipedck 7 months ago
@kokomo40 James is probably standing like a rock because he has to aim an ebow. They're a pain in the ass to play with but it's central to the sound of this particular song. This was on live television no less. Not that he ever really jumped around like a Ritalin kid anyhow.
EvanLouKy 5 months ago
@EvanLouKy Not only that but if you do compare the difference between this show and the early 90's he was more eccentric. I think when this album came out he pretty much checked out and was probably upset that Darcy was no longer with the band, and he was done with Corgan and the rest of the band. Not only this performance but several other ones around the 2000 era you can really see he didn't care to play anymore.
JBougazelli 5 months ago
brings good memories... love this song.
maluciaallen 7 months ago
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melting with Billy...
DizzyPuke 7 months ago
aur der maur is like a snake on that bass. so sexy.
soveryspecial 7 months ago
@aapiment17 You're lucky you're hiding behind that firewall or I'd rip your throat out with my bare hands
chemicalswings 7 months ago
missin a girl so bad right now. I just wish she could hear this song, I feel like she'd come back to me if she heard it, you know?
TroyisNoob 8 months ago 5
@TroyisNoob Sorry to say. But if she hasn't called you back she probably found another guy. And he's probably dropping a load inside her as we speak =(
aapiment17 7 months ago
His singing is terrible here. Also the bass is cranked up too high.
dansak1234 8 months ago
@dansak1234 Well u can tell Corgan feels the same. Whoever was usin the mixer fucked this one up big time
PieKlan 7 months ago
This song is my fav.......
WingiedWarrior 8 months ago
I forgot how much I loved this song, wow incredible
dieselemt 8 months ago
Listen to what Jimmy Chamberlain rips at 3:15... I grew up on the Pumpkins. This might've been their last great rawk song.
HandInGlove2 8 months ago
<3 Smashing Pumpkins
Vote1Jimmy 8 months ago
1:50 Ladys ;)
Vote1Jimmy 8 months ago 2
When they played this at the concert I went to a few months ago, I fucking died. It was absolutely amazing.
razzamattazz 8 months ago
not too many can pull off the man dress.....
paganladyleeah 9 months ago 2
ouch my goddamn </3 i miss this kid harder than words or anything. people see how much other people care about you goddamn it! Everyone should love themself and see how awesome we each are, we deserve this.
emzikalgrl 9 months ago
@emzikalgrl its funny that u say that cus its not that easy not everyone can just love them self it doesbt work that way
captinSideways 9 months ago
This song always reminds me of so many beautiful and great moments of my youth. One of the best songs ever!! Love it.
Severina59 9 months ago
damn jimmy's pounding sounds like thunder rolling from a storm destroying everything in its path
jvillan85 10 months ago 4
Nice drums!
Shisshio 10 months ago
I would kill for that guitar... beutifull....
20anosdepois 10 months ago
@20anosdepois It's a nice 335. Epiphone makes the a less expensive version of it which with the right upgrades could sound very close to the Gibson warmth you are hearing here.
D0ST03VSKY 10 months ago
From 1:47 to 1:54 Billy looks so happy. I can't describe how happy playing music makes me feel, but this reminds me of it. Maybe he's that happy too?
McKennaSays 11 months ago
@McKennaSays billy doesn't take his songs to seriesly when perfoming live. sometimes it shows but ussualy doesnt ruin the song. if you listen to the acoustic version of mayonaise on earphoria, billy laughs in the song during a really great part in the song. it kind of ruined it.
skizmsucks23 10 months ago
Beautiful song and, though I rarely like their stuff live, they do good here. James and Billy are prodigious.
touchandgod 11 months ago
The drums are so incredible on this song. So intense and really tells the story.
MsAlexander747 11 months ago 59
@MsAlexander747
if u like drums..u should try listen to band called butterfingers from malaysia..try song called in hale or naive sick chasm...
dayats 8 months ago 3
@MsAlexander747 this is in my top ten tunes of all time specifically for the drum patterns. Truly amazing, jimmy chamberlain also holds no.1 drummer for me as does abe cunningham.
tma78 3 weeks ago
Hey Billy, how much do clothes cost in the Matrix?
intermission2 11 months ago 4
I love the way Melissa auf der Maur plays guitar. She like, leans back.
Or something. Idk. I liek it. Haha. I still miss D'arcy though. :(
Malingo25 11 months ago
Goddamn they're just so good.
mmmikeyxx 11 months ago
this is so fucking great
i used to listen to this every day 10 times at least
pacholito24 11 months ago
can anyone tell me what james is using on his guitar @ 1.41?
MrHydrogoon 1 year ago
@MrHydrogoon an e-bow
CastinSG 1 year ago
@CastinSG cheers mate
MrHydrogoon 1 year ago
@MrHydrogoon an ebow
niceguydav 11 months ago
Was always a fan of The Pumpkins but on seeing them live twice they came across a bit underwhelming. Billy's voice on the albums i always liked but he it doesn't sound great live, especially in the early minutes here.
PugCuddler 1 year ago
This is pretty good, whatever happened to these guys?
BigGordonLips 1 year ago
no she isn`t
AndsGallego 1 year ago
she is the girl from siamese dreams.
AndsGallego 1 year ago
sublime.
AndsGallego 1 year ago
This reminds me when I lived in Korea, and everything seemed so much easier.
spcshiznit 1 year ago
the girl at the left side makes me wanna attend a concert ;)
minervius 1 year ago
he smiled lol he never smiles.
MegaCreepycreep 1 year ago
This song.... just makes me wanna shed some tears. its beautiful and yet so emotional
Dragonzphoenix 1 year ago
no other band comes close to this pure music
geofolkers 1 year ago
haha also 1.49 is wow
chanbaratime 1 year ago
its his song guy he invented it he can pronounce the words how he fucking pleases
chanbaratime 1 year ago
@LuisBocks Yeah well... He both sounds and looks sick.... Still not good though...
Zimpan 1 year ago
Lol i like Say Anythings live cover of this song alot more... The singer sounds like a fucking faggot in this one and he can't even pronounce the words right...
Zimpan 1 year ago
@Zimpan ............
kazalack 1 year ago
@Zimpan You're fucking stupid...who cares about live hes the one who fucking made the song in the first place...why dont you compare the Studio version against Say Anything's live version? Smashing Pumpkins rapes "Say Anything". You're stupid
975mas 1 year ago
@975mas If he rapes Say Anything. Then he really is gay... Suck it you dickface! My point is proven! Fucking faggots!
Zimpan 1 year ago
@Zimpan LOLOLOLOL sorry but i totally rofl'd when you said dickface...haha i havent been called a dick face since i was in middle school! hahaha how childish. And Btw, Billy isn't a homosexual. He's never had a bf, and never had feelings for men. He's dated a lot of women, in fact, this song IS about one of his girlfriends...
975mas 1 year ago
@975mas Wow you must be a real fag to know such things
Zimpan 1 year ago
@Zimpan If that makes me a faggot then I'm the biggest faggot ever :) Though...I don't see how its possible to be a pile of sticks, but whatever floats your boat...
975mas 1 year ago
@975mas Lal
Zimpan 1 year ago
@975mas Yes, Billy Corgan says he's a straight man, fine, but who are you to tell other people that he NEVER had feelings for another man? Did you actually walk in his shoes to know that? Are you actually the real Billy Corgan to make such a bold statement? Those are HIS feelings and only he can confirm them, not some random fan over the internet.
JetBlack7000 1 year ago
this performance is amazing. and then at 2:40, it just goes LUDICROUSLY amazing. Sounds fucking incredible - and all just looks so effortless. Truly brilliant band
FrogsCock 1 year ago
He looks like Lex Luthor
zee339 1 year ago
@zee339 I thought he looked a bit like Pinhead from "Hellraiser"
Jogun89 1 year ago
i listen to this almost every day. It just reminds me how much i miss a girl so much.
greenie85 1 year ago 82
@greenie85 i feel you. painful to listen to at times, but i can't help it. great song.
Thunda39 1 year ago
@greenie85 same here many of the smashing pumpkins songs do including tonight, thirty three and many others. Thats why The Smashing Pumpkins is the greatest band of all time period.
adamriordanlovespunk 10 months ago
@greenie85 same here buddy
adamriordanlovespunk 8 months ago
@greenie85 same mate. lol i was look though all the comments and there few people agreeing with you
Vote1Jimmy 8 months ago
@Vote1Jimmy lol... I thought I was the only one.
greenie85 8 months ago
@greenie85 HA
rossomaguire17 8 months ago
@greenie85 pussy!
Zac6230 8 months ago
@Zac6230 you're saying that pumpkin listeners are pussy?
greenie85 8 months ago
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@greenie85 i listen to this almost every day. It just reminds me how much i miss a guy so much ^_^ I understand how you feel.
pur3sth3ll 8 months ago
This vid really makes me miss james. Jeff can definitely shred but james is the king of atmosphere. His melodies in this performance are just beautiful and add such power to the song.
TaylorHaycraft 1 year ago
I agree. Things just fell apart for this band. Potential was there but not all 4 was there after melon collie. It makes me sad because they could have nailed their names in the page of history like the Beatles. I watched them first hand live. Too BAD!
sickasslink 1 year ago
Bad performance. Everything is flat - no life in it.
Infinitpossibilities 1 year ago
@Infinitpossibilities to je na tom pravě dobre ty debíle
hovnolisk 1 year ago
how is Iha doing that!? :D
cheli 1 year ago
I love this album.
desy2478 1 year ago
Muito Bom!!!
danielerm 1 year ago
@suepumpkin yea around 150, looks like billy thinks of something funny
bad4365 1 year ago
OMG!! 03:58 Jimmy is a beast, I really miss him in the band, i saw them last week and the new guy is great, but no one can beat jimmy
Darioauli 1 year ago
@Darioauli sorry i mean 2:58
Darioauli 1 year ago
Ebow for the win!!!
SpunAndDone 1 year ago
My ex dedicated this song to me and then to his new gf. So much for "Immutable" LOL perhaps he didn't even know the meaning!!
duendecilla999 1 year ago
@GatewayDXSeries yes
Ci4nyde 1 year ago
why billy corgan smile every time in 2:00?
metal666metal300 1 year ago
he should retire
jayinwww 1 year ago
This song never gets old
nicklazzarinirocks 1 year ago
I lvoe James' 72 Tele in this video. I want it!
ryankon518 1 year ago
This song was everything for me when I was 14...
vergatiesa 1 year ago
@GatewayDXSeries
yes
ThisOneRocks 1 year ago
la più bella canzone del mondo
lexidum 1 year ago
Uncle Fester!!!
MARTINBENITO 1 year ago
@MARTINBENITO Haha! Uncle Fester sure can sing beautifully! Who would've thought?!
DerrickthePinecone 1 year ago
I want that Bass guitar.
qdiva411 1 year ago
@qdiva411 Fuck That! I want the girl holding the bass guitar :P
TheSPumpkin100 1 year ago
Dammit, turn the drums down!!
bigmuffexpress 1 year ago
De las mejores canciones de los smashing!
MAOROCKERLZ 1 year ago
jimmy chamberlin is so fucking good, a drummer mate said when he first heard the pumpkins " is he ortistic or something". bonham or jimmy, who would win in a drum off?
bushisatwat 1 year ago
This performance/song reminds me when i was growing up to when they first started=) I agree, underrated...
Treant9 1 year ago
nice p-bass sound there! ;) and i love this song!!!!
ElliottD85 1 year ago
dude you gotta watch me
manalotj 1 year ago
Super piosenka.
sebastian198230 1 year ago
Uncle Fester!!!
MARTINBENITO 1 year ago 2
@MARTINBENITO hahahahahahahaha =)))))
ju2063 1 year ago
Favoritest love song ever.
PlutoniumCity 1 year ago 3
La amo, así de simple! Demás la tocan en el concierto en Chile!
Billy Corgan I love U!!
MintCamui 1 year ago
I love how James plays his guitar in this video.
fleurdupommier 1 year ago
@fleurdupommier ha yeah. Billy: "James, stand there and make noises with the e-bow." James: " *sigh*"
8bitdeath 1 year ago 2
@8bitdeath Well, I wasn't saying that James mindblows and revolutionizes the world of guitar-playing in that video.. I like how this versions' guitars sound and just wanted to give a positive comment about James for a change.
fleurdupommier 1 year ago
Melissa is ripping it up.
ProbableFiction 1 year ago
how i love this song..
deezswallow 1 year ago
damn... melissa is the most hot bass player ever
pipesith 1 year ago
O_o
Crea80r 1 year ago
it bothers me that you can't hear the amazing Ebow solo at all.
HIMfandelux 1 year ago 4
lei la traduccion de este tema creo que me partio al medio porque es algo que me pasa ahora cuando uno quiere a alguien,cuando te pasas las 24 horas del dia pensando en esa persona que queres y sabes que nunca va a estar contigo.simplemente una obra de arte
carlitox3956 1 year ago
I bet he does, secretly, Doom metal closet case! LOL, honestly, I'm just kidding you.
angbblue 1 year ago
Billy scares me, but when he smiles hes so cute ^^
addietea 1 year ago 5
I think it's the only good song on the CD. It just happens to be my all time favorite song.
angbblue 1 year ago
@angbblue Really? I always thought Try Try Try was a good song too. There are a few gems on the album. Its not their best but still very good IMO.
subby33 1 year ago 2
loved..........!!!
MrMbie 1 year ago
i love this song the ebow part souds amazing in studio version here sucks but its agood performance anyway
elpostiko 1 year ago
I would love to see Iha get involved in another worthwhile project.
shula7d2 1 year ago
@shula7d2 What are you talking about he just did something with one of the hanson brothers. : /
mcafton 1 year ago
One of the best sp songs ;)
muaythai4lifelife 1 year ago 3
Sad to see Pumpkins promotes 'Stand inside your love' on a family channel like ABC!
It's like a parody...Why they did it?
It was Virgin records?
HarveyfromFlorence 1 year ago
man what a finish!
meesterperfect 1 year ago
@meesterperfect : possibly the most underrated band in the history of rock and roll.
captainkill1 1 year ago 3
i don't like how mellisas base is like WAHHHHHHWHAHAHA
JousterinJudge 1 year ago
love the pumkins,makes me sad not to see d'arcy tho.....
transientbandit 1 year ago
he sounds a little sick this this video :/ love this song!!
randomrazor 1 year ago
Billy has the nicest head iv ever seen
JetBlack7000 1 year ago 4
I simply love this song...
zalmeidaa 1 year ago
Is it just me or do the songs on Machina sound better live than recorded. I am not a fan of a lot of the songs on the album but they sound amazing when played live. I think it's because Billy did way to much to the songs in the recorded version it does not sound like the work of a band but of Billy painstakingly setting up the song digitally. I just think that the thing that makes the music good his the personality their music carries. It does not transfer well when it's messed with too much.
779flipingsweet 1 year ago 3
@779flipingsweet
I agree. I remember very well that my first impression after having bought the album was that the music felt kind of "sterile" compared to former Pumkins-records.
Queercraft1 1 year ago
Smashing FOREVER!!!!
jobrial 1 year ago
omg.. u gotta love this guys tone am i right? there are some notes here that are so raspy.. they sound fucking wicked... i could almost see him doing some way darker and maybe more hardcore stuff......
but lol hes probably better at this level with some hapyper music ... but im just saying he could do some pretty crazy doom metal or something
partyongarth420 1 year ago
@partyongarth420 Have you listened to the rest of pumpkins music? Almost none of his music his "happy" like this. This song is actually different than most of Billy's music. But still this song kicks ass!
779flipingsweet 1 year ago