The scene where the youngest boy is getting bathed in the sink by his mom and he poops in the bowl of water and then slowly dies of radiation poisoning. That was a very sad scene. Not trying to be rude to the red headed lady, but these movies are supposed to be sad and depressing.
when testament was a movie did it actually happen in suburb in san francisco because there some kind of radiaction in japan I wouldn't go there wright because of the earthquake tsaunani
Furthermore, Ben Hur was made in the 20th Century long after the era it was portraying. Context in that regard IS meaningless. But Testament, even as fiction, was made during the era of the issues it addresses and context is therefore has meaning to an informed opinion of the value of the film. I have no issue with a person's own tastes; what I dislike is the conceit that the admittedly less informed opinions here have any bearing on the VALUE of the film (the crux of my original reply).
Furthermore, Ben Hur was made in the 20th Century long after the era it was portraying. Context in that regard IS meaningless. But Testament, even as fiction, was made during the era of the issues it addresses and context is therefore has meaning to an informed opinion of the value of the film. I have no issue with a person's own tastes; what I dislike is the conceit that the admittedly less informed opinions here have any bearing on the VALUE of the film (the crux of my original reply).
Furthermore, Ben Hur was made in the 20th Century long after the era it was portraying. Context in that regard IS meaningless. But Testament, even as fiction, was made during the era of the issues it addresses and context is therefore has meaning to an informed opinion of the value of the film. I have no issue with a person's own tastes; what I dislike is the conceit that the admittedly less informed opinions here have any bearing on the VALUE of the film (the crux of my original reply).
Furthermore, Ben Hur was made in the 20th Century long after the era it was portraying. Context in that regard IS meaningless. But Testament, even as fiction, was made during the era of the issues it addresses and context therefore has meaning to an informed opinion of the value of the film. I have no issue with a person's own tastes; what I dislike is the conceit that the admittedly less informed opinions here have any bearing on the VALUE OF THE FILM (the crux of my original reply).
No, myriadarts, can't agree. Your opinion is indeed less valid if you have no experience with the issues at the core of the film makers' motivations. I mean, this isn't just you three sitting at a cafe saying whether you liked a given movie or not (which obviously is anyone's right) -- this is you posting it as if it were something MORE than you three sitting around, etc. You can't make the effort to post your critiques as if they mean something, and then use the 'just my opinion' defense.
Well I find it safe to say that these people were either babies or not even conceived when the Cold War was at it's warmest--ha ha ha. I remember being to told in grade school what to do "if" something ever happened. Duck and close your eyes-as the flash would blind you. "Testament" was frightening as was "The Day After" because they were likely scenarios if push came to shove. The unfortunate thing is now we have many countries with bombs.
You want frightening? Watch "Threads", the 1984 BBC drama shot like a documentary. Makes The Day After and Testament look like fairytales for kids, and very optimistic in comparison.
And don't expect Hollywood effects. More about the realistic catastrophic socioeconomic consequences and the long term effects, even resulting in the destruction of language.
Neither The Day After nor Testament deals with the nasty nuclear winter and widespread famine.
This film is an important one. A must see in my opinion. As long as nuclear weapons are around it's a possibility - Though the odds are a bit slimmer right now. This would be the reality of the aftermath for the survivors most definitely.
NONE of these people were around, or old enough to 'get it' if they were around, at the time this film was made. They can't honestly have ANY context within which to come to any valid opinion about the real value of this film. I can appreciate their emotional response, because the scenes that affected them have to do with timeless issues of familial love and the fear of death (especially meaningless death).
@sclerismockrey - For what it's worth, I think we do acknowledge our respective ages and emotional distance from the material and part of the point of the show in general is to re-examine these older films from a different viewpoint. But suffice it to say, we do suggest that our lack of experience with the issue may have dulled the impact of the film, but I don't think that makes our opinions less valid. One does not need to have lived through the Roman empire to have an opinion of Ben-Hur.
@sclerismockrey - Additionally, are socially relevant films like Syriana and Jarhead, et al going to feel as impactful in twenty years? On the flip side, I didn't live through Watergate either, but I still feel All the President's Men is a great film. The difference I think is not about context, but is in the quailty of the filmmaking/storytelling.
"Everybody dies...who wants to see that?" Not everyone only wants to see shiny happy stuff all the time, you twits. And dude, your voice is SO annoying.
Agree wit ya. That movie has the most unhappy ending EVER. It is dark and bleak-but the thought of losing most of your family and friends only to know her son, her , and Hiroshi are left to die is devastating. I like "testament" better than "the day after"-because I was living in a similar neighborhood at that time, and empathized with everything just dying away before your eyes. The nuke effects in "Day After" were more amazing. "Testaments" nuke was maybe 10 seconds.
Again watch "Threads". Shot like a documentary and free from all Hollywood cliches.
Who cares about the "nuke effects"? The long term effects on society is a lot more important.
In Testament the nuclear attack might as well have been on Mars. Are they trying to tell me everything would still function somewhat after an attack? People being calm and composed? Still driving their cars and the army not confiscating all the little fuel that is left?
Is the red-head a sex addict or a nympho?... LOL Just kidding.
kiddy2686 1 month ago
The scene where the youngest boy is getting bathed in the sink by his mom and he poops in the bowl of water and then slowly dies of radiation poisoning. That was a very sad scene. Not trying to be rude to the red headed lady, but these movies are supposed to be sad and depressing.
kiddy2686 1 month ago
when testament was a movie did it actually happen in suburb in san francisco because there some kind of radiaction in japan I wouldn't go there wright because of the earthquake tsaunani
billy5853 11 months ago
Furthermore, Ben Hur was made in the 20th Century long after the era it was portraying. Context in that regard IS meaningless. But Testament, even as fiction, was made during the era of the issues it addresses and context is therefore has meaning to an informed opinion of the value of the film. I have no issue with a person's own tastes; what I dislike is the conceit that the admittedly less informed opinions here have any bearing on the VALUE of the film (the crux of my original reply).
sclerismockrey 1 year ago
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Furthermore, Ben Hur was made in the 20th Century long after the era it was portraying. Context in that regard IS meaningless. But Testament, even as fiction, was made during the era of the issues it addresses and context is therefore has meaning to an informed opinion of the value of the film. I have no issue with a person's own tastes; what I dislike is the conceit that the admittedly less informed opinions here have any bearing on the VALUE of the film (the crux of my original reply).
sclerismockrey 1 year ago
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Furthermore, Ben Hur was made in the 20th Century long after the era it was portraying. Context in that regard IS meaningless. But Testament, even as fiction, was made during the era of the issues it addresses and context is therefore has meaning to an informed opinion of the value of the film. I have no issue with a person's own tastes; what I dislike is the conceit that the admittedly less informed opinions here have any bearing on the VALUE of the film (the crux of my original reply).
sclerismockrey 1 year ago
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Furthermore, Ben Hur was made in the 20th Century long after the era it was portraying. Context in that regard IS meaningless. But Testament, even as fiction, was made during the era of the issues it addresses and context therefore has meaning to an informed opinion of the value of the film. I have no issue with a person's own tastes; what I dislike is the conceit that the admittedly less informed opinions here have any bearing on the VALUE OF THE FILM (the crux of my original reply).
sclerismockrey 1 year ago
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sclerismockrey 1 year ago
No, myriadarts, can't agree. Your opinion is indeed less valid if you have no experience with the issues at the core of the film makers' motivations. I mean, this isn't just you three sitting at a cafe saying whether you liked a given movie or not (which obviously is anyone's right) -- this is you posting it as if it were something MORE than you three sitting around, etc. You can't make the effort to post your critiques as if they mean something, and then use the 'just my opinion' defense.
sclerismockrey 1 year ago
"the Berlin Wall had fallen and things like that"
Well I find it safe to say that these people were either babies or not even conceived when the Cold War was at it's warmest--ha ha ha. I remember being to told in grade school what to do "if" something ever happened. Duck and close your eyes-as the flash would blind you. "Testament" was frightening as was "The Day After" because they were likely scenarios if push came to shove. The unfortunate thing is now we have many countries with bombs.
gravelandgrain100 1 year ago
@gravelandgrain100
You want frightening? Watch "Threads", the 1984 BBC drama shot like a documentary. Makes The Day After and Testament look like fairytales for kids, and very optimistic in comparison.
And don't expect Hollywood effects. More about the realistic catastrophic socioeconomic consequences and the long term effects, even resulting in the destruction of language.
Neither The Day After nor Testament deals with the nasty nuclear winter and widespread famine.
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
This film is an important one. A must see in my opinion. As long as nuclear weapons are around it's a possibility - Though the odds are a bit slimmer right now. This would be the reality of the aftermath for the survivors most definitely.
RandomWad 1 year ago
NONE of these people were around, or old enough to 'get it' if they were around, at the time this film was made. They can't honestly have ANY context within which to come to any valid opinion about the real value of this film. I can appreciate their emotional response, because the scenes that affected them have to do with timeless issues of familial love and the fear of death (especially meaningless death).
sclerismockrey 1 year ago 2
@sclerismockrey - For what it's worth, I think we do acknowledge our respective ages and emotional distance from the material and part of the point of the show in general is to re-examine these older films from a different viewpoint. But suffice it to say, we do suggest that our lack of experience with the issue may have dulled the impact of the film, but I don't think that makes our opinions less valid. One does not need to have lived through the Roman empire to have an opinion of Ben-Hur.
myriadarts 1 year ago
@sclerismockrey - Additionally, are socially relevant films like Syriana and Jarhead, et al going to feel as impactful in twenty years? On the flip side, I didn't live through Watergate either, but I still feel All the President's Men is a great film. The difference I think is not about context, but is in the quailty of the filmmaking/storytelling.
myriadarts 1 year ago
"Everybody dies...who wants to see that?" Not everyone only wants to see shiny happy stuff all the time, you twits. And dude, your voice is SO annoying.
siriuslybloo 2 years ago
@siriuslybloo -
Agree wit ya. That movie has the most unhappy ending EVER. It is dark and bleak-but the thought of losing most of your family and friends only to know her son, her , and Hiroshi are left to die is devastating. I like "testament" better than "the day after"-because I was living in a similar neighborhood at that time, and empathized with everything just dying away before your eyes. The nuke effects in "Day After" were more amazing. "Testaments" nuke was maybe 10 seconds.
gravelandgrain100 1 year ago
@gravelandgrain100
Most unhappy ending ever?
Again watch "Threads". Shot like a documentary and free from all Hollywood cliches.
Who cares about the "nuke effects"? The long term effects on society is a lot more important.
In Testament the nuclear attack might as well have been on Mars. Are they trying to tell me everything would still function somewhat after an attack? People being calm and composed? Still driving their cars and the army not confiscating all the little fuel that is left?
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
this woman is a casting director? prime example of how any asshole can be a casting director.
mset68 3 years ago
pretty "brill"??? these people have no business reviewing testament, a pretty incredible and moving film.
modman1967 3 years ago
Good film. Unfortunately, these three twits are annoying. I can't imagine that they are much of experts on anything.
baldie730 3 years ago
The asshole host is the only one that's supposed to be an expert. The rest are just regular people.
jjgittes9 3 years ago
I agree that it's a good film. I don't think I ever said otherwise. What exactly is it that we said that you disagree with?
myriadarts 3 years ago