Experts and Lawrence historians are in complete agreement that Lawrences Brough Superior SS100 GW2275 would fetch in excess of £10 million if it ever went to auction.
The American owner of this ever so famous motorcycle turned down an offer of £7 million for the machine in 2003
I still have the paper cutting from Motorcycle News showing the story.
Lawrence is an enigma and the very motorcycle he once owned and rode is almost as saught after as the Ferrari 250GTO that command £15million
@llandudnoboy Don't know the USA dollar amounts, but while I was revisiting the movie, I was noticing the stills with the bike they were getting for use in the movie, I couldn't recall reading any history or knowing the name of the bike before. It slips the mind as I think more of the camels in the movie, looking back! haha
For your information T E Lawrence was killed by MI5,on the orders of the Goverment,he was seen as an promblem by pro zionist faction in Baldwin goverment,he was pro arab.
Hang on a moment its no secret that Lawrence was a a great admirer of Brough motorcycles and he made several personal visits to Brough motorcycles.
You will certainly find references on various TE Lawrence websites to his personal relationship with the Shaw family and there are several personal letters recounting his numerous accidents he had on motorcycles.
His death was certainly not planned and anyone with a passion for motobikes somtimes are killed
Thomas Edward Lawrence born in Tremadoc outside Porthmadoc in Gwynedd North wales was one of the greatest figures in 20C history whose classical upbringing at Oxford and travells around the Middle East studying early Crusader Fortifications whilst still a student made him fairly suitable as a correspondant for the Arab bureau in Egypt.
What he did next was quite remarkable and in doing so altered World History.
@llandudnoboy Well, the movie shows a remarkable man, and documents the death as anything but suicidal. Speed for the sake of enjoyment is not a sign of tempting fate, per se
Can you think of any other person of the 20Century that used his position and past experiences to manipulate and develop a given situation ( the Turks in Arabia and the Suez Canals vital importance in the 1st and definately 2nd World Wars)
Lawrence was only meant to be gathering intelligence against the Turks for General Allenby his Commanding Officer but his taking of Aquaba altered World history and he did it all knowing the eventual outcome for the Arabic nation.
@llandudnoboy I've never been adept at Politics the World over, but the movie was shown in school, and you hope when that happens, not TOO many liberties are taken in the fictionalizing
The peace treaty at Versaille in France was just as much a betrayal to Lawrence as it was to Prince Feisal.
Lawrence may have wanted to give Prince Feisal the opportunity of reigning over a unified Arabian nation as one ruler but in the Versaille Treaty the French and British Government carved up Arabia for themselves.
Lawrence remember arrived at Damascas before Allenby raising not the Union Jack but the Arabic flag for the Arabs.
@llandudnoboy In the film, he asks if he can give the word of his superiors when he returns after his long journey out of the desert ... So if there's anything untrue, he can live with the idea that he doesn't know one way or the other, and won't assume. He lives with the demons of events like killing a man, which he claimed to enjoy
@llandudnoboy More so then the movie, with Peter O Toole stepping into the man's shoes, he really personifies the real man in taking on that role, you hope it's as honest as it can be.
@llandudnoboy On the T.E. Lawrence titled YT video, I was accused of putting too much weight on David Lean's film. The DVD shows the promotion comparison pics of both men in publicity for the film. During winter months, I can't think of a better time to enjoy a movie shot in the heat of the desert! haha
Its hard to believe some of the amazing desert shots especially the famous one where Lawrence gives his revolver to his bedouin guide were filmed on the sand dunes just outside Bridgend in South Wales.
The Merthyr Mawr sand dunes are some of the largest in Europe and blimey when the winds blow in the winter months its hellish cold there.
@llandudnoboy Interesting, However I'm in Minnesota and it was 13 degrees this morning! and I was out a few hours before that news report, it was HELLISH COLD! haha
@llandudnoboy No. Definitely not true. The iconic film - took almost 2 yrs. to complete - was filmed mostly in the Jordanian (formerly the Syrian) desert. Then the company went to Spain for much filming. Then Morocco for a bit, for the battle scene near the end. No way was it ever filmed in Britain - never.
Luv ya, Peter. Love your beautifully handsome face as TEL; no one but you could have ever played LOA the way you did. Iconic performance, iconic film.
It is a recognised fact that certain sections of the film especially the one showing Lawrence alone contemplating his attack on Aquaba were filmed at the famous Merthyr Mawr sand dunes outside Bridgend in South Wales.
I agree the majority of the film was filmed in Morocco, Syria etc but certain extracts were filmed here in the Uk, and that is a recognised fact which nobody can doubt.
@llandudnoboy I'll clarify: 1. The LOA 30th Anniv. Pictorial History by Morris & Raskin; 2. The BFI Film Classics series by K. Jackson: The above shot you mention was filmed in the Jordanian desert. Peter & many others have said 1/2 was filmed in the northern Arabian desert. They re-located to Spain for the rest.
Some interior shots were done at Pinewood Studios. Never has a word been said re South Wales. Whoever says has purposely lied. An insult to Peter & David.
You obviously have not done your homework on this subject.
The majority of the film was filmed in the Jordanian desert and Pinewood studios but i have several newspaper articles clearly stating that David Lean did use Merthyr Mawr sanddunes near Bridgend south Wales.
If you do a search on the background to the film you should realise this was the case.
I would not make such a statement unless i knew it to be true.
"No homework"? "Do a search"? I take great exception to this.
FYI: I have researched anything & everything about the film LOA, TEL, Peter, back-ground, etc. since I was a young girl. I have a library of it. I wrote what I did due to my vast knowledge/love for it. I have info back to 1963. I am no beginner. And I don't post what is not true.
More importantly, never is there the tiniest mention of "...dunes in Wales".
Please type in Google " Lawrence of Arabias Connection with Merthyr Mawr Sand Dunes" and see what it comes up with and then post another replie to my message.
You will find that some of the David Lean film was actually filmed here in Wales as Merthyr Mawr up until the early 1980s was the largest and tallest sand dunes anywhere in Europe and the ideal location to film a desert film like Lawrence of Arabia.
@llandudnoboy Peter played the role so superbly and the film is so superb. Noone but Peter could have done it. Iconic film, iconic role. Mr. Lean/Peter knew exactly what to do.
shit,in hongkong the traffic is so crowded,but I wanna own this one !!!
greenguard2468 6 days ago
I had always heard that Lawrence had a special stainless steel fuel tank on his bike. I wish someone would resurrect the Brough motorcycle company.
JAG312 11 months ago
Experts and Lawrence historians are in complete agreement that Lawrences Brough Superior SS100 GW2275 would fetch in excess of £10 million if it ever went to auction.
The American owner of this ever so famous motorcycle turned down an offer of £7 million for the machine in 2003
I still have the paper cutting from Motorcycle News showing the story.
Lawrence is an enigma and the very motorcycle he once owned and rode is almost as saught after as the Ferrari 250GTO that command £15million
llandudnoboy 1 year ago
@llandudnoboy Don't know the USA dollar amounts, but while I was revisiting the movie, I was noticing the stills with the bike they were getting for use in the movie, I couldn't recall reading any history or knowing the name of the bike before. It slips the mind as I think more of the camels in the movie, looking back! haha
MetallicBill 1 year ago
not sure where this video was taken, but the bike is now in the Imperial War Museum in London
wetfishman1066 1 year ago
@wetfishman1066
Its on loan as the motorcycle is still owned i believe by an American collector who turned down an offer of £7million some years ago.
It has also been loaned to the Lawrence museum in Dorset once or twice.
God knows what the insurance on the bike must be
I still have the Motorcycle News paper cutting which says
£7million Offer rejected for Lawrences Motorcycle
If this Brough does get a new owner even in a cash strapped recession it will make an 8 figure sum
llandudnoboy 1 year ago
For your information T E Lawrence was killed by MI5,on the orders of the Goverment,he was seen as an promblem by pro zionist faction in Baldwin goverment,he was pro arab.
Twirly60 2 years ago
@Twirly60 don't be so ridiculous stupid boy
kyberforce 1 year ago
@kyberforce
Hang on a moment its no secret that Lawrence was a a great admirer of Brough motorcycles and he made several personal visits to Brough motorcycles.
You will certainly find references on various TE Lawrence websites to his personal relationship with the Shaw family and there are several personal letters recounting his numerous accidents he had on motorcycles.
His death was certainly not planned and anyone with a passion for motobikes somtimes are killed
A tragic accident
llandudnoboy 1 year ago
It's a 1932 Brough Superior SS100. He named it George VII. At the time of his death the George VIII was being built, but it was never delivered.
MrStableboy 2 years ago
What kind of bike is it?
AnthonyTheSage 2 years ago
I believe that his overly-recless/fast driving that contributed to the accident was due to his demons.
It's interesting that the surgeon who attended to him was a driving force in the creation of helmets, following the death of Lawrence.
hardcorehouse 2 years ago
@hardcorehouse
If you read his letters he wrote to his close friend George Bernard Shaw
Ned as he was known as to his closest friends had several accidents due to excessive speed in and around Bovington Camp in Dorset.
It is of no surprise then that he eventually killed himself on one of his speed trips.
llandudnoboy 2 years ago 2
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kyberforce 1 year ago
@kyberforce
Thomas Edward Lawrence born in Tremadoc outside Porthmadoc in Gwynedd North wales was one of the greatest figures in 20C history whose classical upbringing at Oxford and travells around the Middle East studying early Crusader Fortifications whilst still a student made him fairly suitable as a correspondant for the Arab bureau in Egypt.
What he did next was quite remarkable and in doing so altered World History.
A trully great man.
llandudnoboy 1 year ago
@llandudnoboy Well, the movie shows a remarkable man, and documents the death as anything but suicidal. Speed for the sake of enjoyment is not a sign of tempting fate, per se
MetallicBill 1 year ago
@MetallicBill
Can you think of any other person of the 20Century that used his position and past experiences to manipulate and develop a given situation ( the Turks in Arabia and the Suez Canals vital importance in the 1st and definately 2nd World Wars)
Lawrence was only meant to be gathering intelligence against the Turks for General Allenby his Commanding Officer but his taking of Aquaba altered World history and he did it all knowing the eventual outcome for the Arabic nation.
llandudnoboy 1 year ago
@llandudnoboy I've never been adept at Politics the World over, but the movie was shown in school, and you hope when that happens, not TOO many liberties are taken in the fictionalizing
MetallicBill 1 year ago
@MetallicBill
The peace treaty at Versaille in France was just as much a betrayal to Lawrence as it was to Prince Feisal.
Lawrence may have wanted to give Prince Feisal the opportunity of reigning over a unified Arabian nation as one ruler but in the Versaille Treaty the French and British Government carved up Arabia for themselves.
Lawrence remember arrived at Damascas before Allenby raising not the Union Jack but the Arabic flag for the Arabs.
llandudnoboy 1 year ago
@llandudnoboy In the film, he asks if he can give the word of his superiors when he returns after his long journey out of the desert ... So if there's anything untrue, he can live with the idea that he doesn't know one way or the other, and won't assume. He lives with the demons of events like killing a man, which he claimed to enjoy
MetallicBill 1 year ago
@MetallicBill
Lawrence is still a mysterious figure with those who knew him well being left spellbound by his presence and achievments.
He is full of contradictions with his personal diary in the British Library contradicting what he claims happened in "Seven Pillars of Wisdom"
It is the mystery of the man that makes him one of the 20C greatest figures.
llandudnoboy 1 year ago
@llandudnoboy More so then the movie, with Peter O Toole stepping into the man's shoes, he really personifies the real man in taking on that role, you hope it's as honest as it can be.
MetallicBill 1 year ago 2
@MetallicBill
The only disappointment in the film is that O Toole is 6Ft 2 and Lawrence was only 5Ft 4 a huge difference.
Peter O Toole played the role of Lawrence quite magnificently but David Lean didnot try and conceal O Tooles height difference.
Alan Ladd was a similar height to Lawrence and we all know the lengths they went to in Shane to conceal his real height.
Lean could have made O Toole appear shorter with camera trickery and then the film would have been spot on.
llandudnoboy 1 year ago
@llandudnoboy On the T.E. Lawrence titled YT video, I was accused of putting too much weight on David Lean's film. The DVD shows the promotion comparison pics of both men in publicity for the film. During winter months, I can't think of a better time to enjoy a movie shot in the heat of the desert! haha
MetallicBill 1 year ago
@MetallicBill
Its hard to believe some of the amazing desert shots especially the famous one where Lawrence gives his revolver to his bedouin guide were filmed on the sand dunes just outside Bridgend in South Wales.
The Merthyr Mawr sand dunes are some of the largest in Europe and blimey when the winds blow in the winter months its hellish cold there.
llandudnoboy 1 year ago
@llandudnoboy Interesting, However I'm in Minnesota and it was 13 degrees this morning! and I was out a few hours before that news report, it was HELLISH COLD! haha
MetallicBill 1 year ago
@llandudnoboy No. Definitely not true. The iconic film - took almost 2 yrs. to complete - was filmed mostly in the Jordanian (formerly the Syrian) desert. Then the company went to Spain for much filming. Then Morocco for a bit, for the battle scene near the end. No way was it ever filmed in Britain - never.
Luv ya, Peter. Love your beautifully handsome face as TEL; no one but you could have ever played LOA the way you did. Iconic performance, iconic film.
dovecast1 1 week ago
@dovecast1
It is a recognised fact that certain sections of the film especially the one showing Lawrence alone contemplating his attack on Aquaba were filmed at the famous Merthyr Mawr sand dunes outside Bridgend in South Wales.
I agree the majority of the film was filmed in Morocco, Syria etc but certain extracts were filmed here in the Uk, and that is a recognised fact which nobody can doubt.
llandudnoboy 1 week ago
@llandudnoboy I'll clarify: 1. The LOA 30th Anniv. Pictorial History by Morris & Raskin; 2. The BFI Film Classics series by K. Jackson: The above shot you mention was filmed in the Jordanian desert. Peter & many others have said 1/2 was filmed in the northern Arabian desert. They re-located to Spain for the rest.
Some interior shots were done at Pinewood Studios. Never has a word been said re South Wales. Whoever says has purposely lied. An insult to Peter & David.
dovecast1 1 week ago
@dovecast1
You obviously have not done your homework on this subject.
The majority of the film was filmed in the Jordanian desert and Pinewood studios but i have several newspaper articles clearly stating that David Lean did use Merthyr Mawr sanddunes near Bridgend south Wales.
If you do a search on the background to the film you should realise this was the case.
I would not make such a statement unless i knew it to be true.
llandudnoboy 1 week ago
@llandudnoboy
"No homework"? "Do a search"? I take great exception to this.
FYI: I have researched anything & everything about the film LOA, TEL, Peter, back-ground, etc. since I was a young girl. I have a library of it. I wrote what I did due to my vast knowledge/love for it. I have info back to 1963. I am no beginner. And I don't post what is not true.
More importantly, never is there the tiniest mention of "...dunes in Wales".
That's it.
fin
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dovecast1 1 week ago
@dovecast1
Hello there again
Please type in Google " Lawrence of Arabias Connection with Merthyr Mawr Sand Dunes" and see what it comes up with and then post another replie to my message.
You will find that some of the David Lean film was actually filmed here in Wales as Merthyr Mawr up until the early 1980s was the largest and tallest sand dunes anywhere in Europe and the ideal location to film a desert film like Lawrence of Arabia.
llandudnoboy 1 week ago
@llandudnoboy Peter played the role so superbly and the film is so superb. Noone but Peter could have done it. Iconic film, iconic role. Mr. Lean/Peter knew exactly what to do.
dovecast1 1 week ago
@dovecast1 Just an addendum: Who cares about height? Cagney was shorter than Ladd. They were both wonderful actors.
Who cares re height?
dovecast1 1 week ago
Very interesting.
It is part of the world history.
Regards
Nortones2 3 years ago