Cheng Fei 2004 Olympics EF FX

[proudpotterfan]

such a cute pixie but SO MUCH POWER and lovely lovely dancing!

[TheAndreholanda]

essa nota foi justa???? eu acho q não! merecia mais!!

[ParanoidAndroidDA]

Ballet and gymnastics is just a match made in heaven

[bernardmarianovella]

Even without the two out of bounds she was underscored. Ponor got a 9.750, and while I love Ponor on beam, without the out of bounds she would have only gotten her a 9.612, and including the fact that Fei does a Double-Double and her second pass is the most exciting of Ponors routine, in addition to the incomparable artistry Fei shows on floor compared to Ponor.

[amylily123]

such an amazing presence even then. she looks less cheerful now and more wise.... she looks young!

[gymnastagirl141009]

@lovepandas thanks its all cleared up! If you search them on wiki it tell you the family name. I also searched chinese names.

[gymnastagirl141009]

@mfsx5ip2 so is jiangs first name yuyuan or jiang? Or given name i should say. But thanks. That cleared up a lot!! Wait so if fei had a sisyer they would calling her cheng too?;/ confusing

[gy9402]

@gymnastagirl141009 Cheng and Jiang are family names, Fei and Yuyuan are the given names.

[klodya604]

Out off bound twice but a wonderful routine! I thik it was just a little lac of experience.

[perry3340]

Uh hello? She went out of bounds twice! I actually think the score was fair.

[gymnastagirl141009]

is her first name fei or cheng? it says on the board cheng f. and normally that f is the first name.. but at the last olympics it said fei c,

[bertera1614]

@gymnastagirl141009 i have the same doubt lol

[gymnastagirl141009]

@bertera1614 ha its only china though! with japan you know. like koko tsurumi.. ya can tell her first name is koko

[mfsx5ip2]

@gymnastagirl141009 Her family name is Cheng, her given name is Fei, but in China you put the family name first.

[KaeslinFan2]

0:40-0:43 i was wondering if someone would ever step out of bounds on their dance. WOW! i know she was competing a double-double now, but i didnt know she did in 2004!

[KlauMe1]

nice 

[macassar88]

@mrpatriot83 Yang Tae Young as well

[VulturulNegru93]

Such an amazing routine! But on the second pass she went out of bounce twice!! That was the biggest mistake in her floor! So sad, she should've taken bronze!

[f688688]

She should have medal there! she got robbed.

[kiwigymnast16]

she floated on that triple full! wow!!!!!

[chrislindsey14]

Cheng's SV was 9.9

[JTGPCFL]

Her turns and leaps were not as good as Moreno's.

[macassar88]

@JTGPCFL Moreno's routine was one of the ugliest routines in the finals. Her dance was the "I'm baked and will move my arms around" dance that was even worse than Beth Tweddle's dance. Her routine was disgusting, and it should not have medalled.

[MaebySurelyBarely]

@macassar88 Honestly? Her routine had great expression and good dance, her routine was much better than Tweddle's dance wise. Moreno deserved her medal, and as much as I love Cheng Fei, Moreno was the only one in that final who deserved it.

[JTGPCFL]

@MaebySurelyBarely I love youuu! (: and totally agree. That was such a derogatory comment. No gymnast needs to be spoken like that about when they're doing their best at what they love.

[MNGYM26]

This is when I fell in love with Fei Cheng.

[tamarjan91]

she lost a medal place because she left the floor area two times

[chrislindsey14]

@tamarjan91 she only got a 0.1 penalty tho

[cooasha]

Carmen Ionescu (ROM ) had the same music back in 2001!!!! well , with the 2 parts reversed. i wonder why the romanians didn't use it in an olimpic game...because it's a wonderful music.

[crsfirillusion]

what is the music she's performing to? I love it!

[xXSailorMarsXx]

@crsfirillusion It is selections from Minkus' ballet Don Quixote

[auswriteratheart]

It doesn't matter what the actual deductions are. It matters how they score the other athletes. You're right that mathematically the score is correct, but they can't decide to deduct on one girl and not another. Compared to the other athletes' performances, this one deserved a medal.

[Doug1233]

Where did they "deduct one girl and not the other"?

If you're talking about Ponor's short tuck jump 2/1, they credited Cheng Fei's, and hers was short too.

[auswriteratheart]

I'm not talking about Ponor, or Sofronie for that matter. I'm talking about Moreno's bad landing's on 4 of 5 of her tumbling passes. Did you see her 3.5 twist? At least Cheng Fei could control the difficult skills she threw. And just out of curiosity-how is it you know whether they credited those jumps or not? Were you by any chance one of the judges? Seriously, although that last part was sarcastic, I want to know if/how you know for sure.

[Doug1233]

You're getting confused.

LANDINGS is an execution deduction. I was not talking about execution. I was talking about the START VALUE.

The only way that Cheng Fei could be give a 9.9SV was if she lost 2 tenths of bonus in the routine (as on paper, she had 13 tenths, with only 12 being needed for a 10.0SV)

The ONLY WAY that routine could have lost exactly 2 tenths of bonus, was if either the Popa+Gogean were downgraded, or the triple spin+Popa was downgraded.

[Doug1233]

Out of those two scenarios, it is quite clear that the Gogean was downgraded.

Dude look at it, it BARELY made a full twist, let alone a 3/2.

They must have given her the triple spin for 0.1, downgraded the Popa and so didn't award her the D-C dance bonus 0.1CV. And then not award her the Gogean.

Thus 11 tenths and a 9.9SV.

Of course I was not one of the judges. You know I wasn't. It was silly to ask. But mathematically, those 2 scenarios are the only viable ones to get her a 9.9SV

[auswriteratheart]

No, I'm not getting confused. I didn't read every single one of your previous posts, so sue me. I don't actually want to stalk you, even if you want me to. And I was using SARCASM when I asked that. Maybe you couldn't hear it, but I thought it was pretty obvious. Besides that, thanks. I really was curious how you knew, and you know how many people out there say that they know exactly what happened when they're really just morons pulling it out of their...extremities.

[auswriteratheart]

That really was helpful, and I'm glad to have run into someone who actually knows what they're talking about. On another note: you were talking about more than just start value. After going back and reading your other posts, I have this one comment: you talked about her deductions when you said "3-4 tenths of deductions is appropriate in this routine. 9.4-9.5 is about right." So don't go throwing a tantrum when people talk to you about her deductions.

[intergalacticmutiny]

When did he throw a tantrum?

He was merely responding to cries of "OMG ROBBERY!" when it is pretty evident, at least to me, that she got a fair score.

Fei had a silver medal worthy routine, but let's remember she stepped OOB TWICE and the judges turned a blind eye to the second OOB.

[auswriteratheart]

You obviously don't know what I was talking about. All I said was that he was not being exactly truthful in what he was saying. Also, I'm not entirely convinced she went OOB twice. I'm sure the commentators would have said something, as fond as they are of criticizing foreign athletes. That being said, let me restate my opinion: regardless of start value, and OOB, which I've always thought is a stupid deduction anyway, this was a performance worthy of a bronze or silver medal.

[Doug1233]

She wasn't robbed. This was my favourite floor performance of the Games, but the judges got it right here. Start Value: Double Double 0.3 Piked Full In 0.2 Back 5/2 Front Layout 0.1 + 0.1 Triple Full 0.2 = 9 tenths in TUMBLING Tuck Jump 2/1 0.1 Triple spin 0.1 Her Popa nor her Gogean made it around So she had 11 tenths in bonus = 9.9 SV Also, 1 OOB, so 9.8. 3-4 tenths of deductions is appropriate in this routine. 9.4 - 9.5 is about right

[caramelcreamsauce]

Doug1233, remember judges were allowed to score in the half-tenth mark, like for example 9.05.

SV: 9.9 - 0.1 OOB = 9.8

Landing For Double Double: -0.05

Popa: -0.1

Double Turning Tuck Jump: -0.05

Triple Turn: -0.05

Gogean: - 0.05

9.9 - 0.1 - 0.05 - 0.05 - 0.05 - 0.05 = 9.500.

A step out of bounds costs one tenth. She scored a 9.65 in Quals and a 9.5 in EF seems fair, for a mandatory 0.1 deduction and other errors.

I thought she and Moreno should have shared the bronze.

[Doug1233]

Judges could only score in 'half-tenths' for execution panel.

CCS, I was only discussing how she only started out of a 9.9 SV. SV was (and still is) calculated in whole tenths.

[caramelcreamsauce]

I know that start value 1 tenth :)

Thanks though :)

[Doug1233]

It's ok. Am happy to help!

[ThePenguin888]

Doug, she went OOB twice.

[Doug1233]

She did.

But she only got deducted for one of them.

Your comment only goes to favour the argument that the score was fair, and if anything, lenient!

[drsarcasmus]

she got robbed of a medal, plain and simple

[michelleyuk1989]

I really believe audience's response=)

What a pity Cheng fei's gymnastics career is over peak period now~

I really hope that she can win in Olympic 2008,but she carries a heavy pressure and high expectations,i think this will form one kind of burden to her~

[michelleyuk1989]

I hate those hateful referees~

There is a lot of similar cases in this Olympic Games

such as At men's gymnastics individual all-around finals, the magistrate was wrong to belong to the South Korean athletes fraction, add to the American athletes.

Is this also the coincidence thing?But I absolutely do not believe that,because in society not these many coincidences~

[gyuasg]

she always had difficulties on her pikes

[olympicfreak13]

I think that this is my favorite floor routine ever!

[michelleyuk1989]

Yes,me too~

She got 9.65 in prelim,9.665 in Team final,but got only 9.412 in event final,What happened??????This three-day performance is very smooth, no errors~

so,I was really unfair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[msalasan]

unfortunately, n the event finals she stepped out of bound twice. there are the 0.2 she needed. maybe even like that was a bit low, but she could get a bronze, at least.

[00gym00]

she stepped out of bound twice!! So, that cost her 0.2, The score is OK

[michelleyuk1989]

She got 9.65 in prelim,but got only 9.412 in final,her performance has not presented any fault!!

it was really unfair,and i think the adjudicator has the prejudice probably to the Asian gymnast and they favors the European gymnastics contestant probably!!

For Patricia Moreno's performance,the first is really amazing,but the second part presented the obvious fault,Cheng fei do not have any fault

we can heard that they hooted at the adjudicator

[QueenieQue]

Um, she stepped out of bounds twice!

[michelleyuk1989]

In my opinion,she is really better than Patricia Moreno!!!

[macassar88]

When Tim Daggett says that a Chinese gymnast is underscored, it means that they are horribly underscored. He usually only talks about underscoring for the american gymnasts. I think she should have at least gotten a bronze.

[SilverDragon24]

Omg I didn't even know she was in the 2004 Olympics!

[ballethoney]

she just sparkles out there! the final pose is too cute. love cheng fei!

[intoxicatedk]

She's cute and adorable here. This year she's mature and intimidating.

Her voice is sooooo cute.

[TwisterFlipp95]

i mean world and olympic competition

[TwisterFlipp95]

god, except for '06 world event finals, floor finals alwasy seemed to go wrong for her in olympic competition. she messed up in '04 olympics, didnt even make it in '05 worlds, took a hgue step oit in '07 worlds, and messed up big time in '08olympics...who knows what shelll do next

[tchachinafan]

lovely

[kika0002]

What's the name of the song?

[maofefe]

Variations from Don Quixote

[Davylp]

y does she always wave, she messed up!. Awkward!

[drinkfromhisgrace]

yeah too careless, she stuck her foot out when dancing....it's a beautiful routine though, shawn johnson and nastia liukin are overrated

[m4e9]

her routine seems almost effortless and flawless. even though there were several mistakes, she should have medaled.

[rexus82]

The artistry and difficulty are a lot better than Ponor's. It's a shame her execution wasn't as good as Ponor's, as Cheng Fei's fx is really gold medal material.

[angelahoho]

She should get the bronze. The first pass is really really difficult to do!

[grafgirl27]

She was robbed. This routine was atleast a 9.7 without the out of bounds, so should have been atleast a 9.6 even with it. She deserved the silver. The gymnast who won the bronze was horrible and there is no way it should have beaten this even with the mistake.

[KarenLovesGymnastics]

Agreed. The judges were probably doing their hair while she was on floor, because no way was this anything under 9.6 out of bounds or not.

[NewNewNastiaFan101]

please see the post I made about her deductions

[NewNewNastiaFan101]

here is where she got hit

large step on pike full-in -0.2

OOB -0.1

Incomplete triple turn -0.1 from SV

Incomplete Gogean -0.1 from SV

Incomplete jump 2/1 -0.1 from SV

Piked down triple -0.1

So she's starting at a 9.7 off the bat, and loses .1 for OOB

They might have taken another OOB because she put her foot out on the dance skill

[norajthx]

yes but the ponor"s floor exercise is very low...

[vict209130]

She got a 9.412 not a 9.3 in your calculation. Her start value was 9.9, with the 0.1 deduction from the OOB, the start value became 9.8.

Where was the incomplete jump? I don't see anything wrong with the Gogean. I do agree that her triple (stand) turn was short.

[vict209130]

She had 0.1 OOB deduction on the score board. Her dance step was IN the bound.

[tomyman]

NewNewNastiaFan101 - before making deductions, have a look at the EF FX results table. it says she started with 9.9 and scored 9.412

[Doug1233]

NF101 - she actually had 13 tenths of bonus.

They gave her the triple spin and the tuck jump double.

But they downgraded her Popa and her Gogean, which resulted in 1 tenth of bonus coming off for each.

So she had 11 tenths of bonus, and thus a 9.9SV

She also had 0.1OOB, even though she went OOB twice.

If you say her triple spin, her tuck 2/1 and her second OOB away, which are all reasonably to do, that is a further 3 tenths off the 9.4

[ItsNastiaFan101]

well, if her SV was 9.9 then she got even more help from the judges....

[AnnaPavlovaFan]

She scored a 9.512 and lost -0.1 for the OOB! There's absolutely NO WAY to score in the 9.50-range with a SV of 9.70! Safe to say she was robbed big time (and I love both Sofronie and Moreno's floor work).

[piskoun]

Was she two times out of bounces? Look at her feet right after!

[intldawn]

I think you're right. It's hard to see, but when she extended her toe back it looked like she went over the line again. If she did, that's such a silly mistake. She should have figured out from going out of bounds on the full-in that she was really close to the corner and needed to move away a bit.

[ispaht]

I don't think she was robbed. She went out of bounds and only had a 9.9 start value.

[LiVeLiKeURdying2]

I remembered this event and even I was baffled by her overall score. I don't think the judges realized Cheng Fei considering this was probably the first time they'd ever seen her perform a routine.

With that said, she's a phenomenal gymnast then and now!

[chusma32]

Absolutely unfair

[eMthegymnast]

technically she went out twic. she stick her toe out after that.

[dilemmababe3462]

Haha i was just about to say that!! She lands and takes a step back and then puts her foot behind her dancing and steps out again!! Just a tad careless lol.

[vict209130]

BUT Officially, the scoreboard showed 0.1 deduction. Not 0.2! Where were the other deduction to come up with 9.412?

[tomyman]

vict209130 - yes her deduction was 0.1 not 0.2. maybe youre missing she didn't make the triple because she was hurt so her SV is 9.9 not 10.

jury:

9.50, 9.45, 9.55, 9.50, 9.60, 9.50 = 9.512 -0.10 = 9.412

[feichengchn]

:-)

[KajaRG]

Too bad this was way below her potential. She should have been the Olympic champion in 2004. Hopefully she'll win in 2008 but I doubt we'll see such an artistic routine from her ever again.

[eMthegymnast]

she cant have you seen her bars. some peopl post vids of her bas w/ the wrong people but seriously she does about a gazillion giants and a tkatchev. after the out of bounds pass she also stuck her toe out of the line! its not unfair cuz she went out of bounds twice. okay 2 do that (ex: nastia in 2005) but not if its touching the ground! she wasnt cheated out of a gold. add .4 to a 9.412.....what do u get?

[ugottaluvem]

Who said I was talking about the AA? I hope she wins FX and VT in Beijing.

[eMthegymnast]

she cant win flor with shanw and alicia there.

[grafgirl27]

Bullshit. Her best routine would definitely beat the overrated Shawn Johnson and Sacramone. They only went 1-2 at Worlds last year since Fei screwed up bigtime, it had nothing to do with their routines.

[dilemmababe3462]

Cheng Fei messed up her routine at Worlds last year.

[lucasversori]

how much did she lose for steping on the line? 0.4 right? (i duno da rules)

[eMthegymnast]

she couldnt have been.. her bars is WAY under difficult. like tooo many giants