Then Lyndon Came Along: Part 2

[rockin1732]

Dude. That was awesome.

[liamrn]

This is a great Vlog, this completely and utterly mirrors the mess of emotions i had in my head toward another youtube vloger. I identify as a gay man but i found my self attracted to this uber hot man who just happened to be trans-gender. After a complex and confusing battle of what i was, i realized while i could emotionally connect with a trans-gender there was no sexual drive and i for one need a complete connection both physical, emotional, and sexually.

[MirageVelondor]

In my opinion, you got yourself way too far into those ideas of how the barriers are met or broken (plz no offense).

However, you did do a wonderful job with it.

[zzzskj]

<3 breaking barriers as you speak.

[princealarming85]

Joshua Klipp is the hottest person I've ever seen

[princealarming85]

I consider myself queer. Honestly it doesn't matter to me what a person has between their legs. I'm attracted more so to what's consider male and/or masculine, but I don't draw a fine line. Only two months ago I found myself attracted to a new lesbian co-worker I mistook as a bio-man. It's something I struggled with for years, and finally decided to leave it open ended. Tip the scale towards the male, and my heart will decide when I'm in love, regardless of which public restroom they use. Kudos!

[musicmaker838]

I call it "sexually fluid"

baha. I liked this (:

[macfanleapord]

you have a wisp in your voice....

[pale1221]

I really like your videos...your attractive and have a nice head on your shoulders and I can see that your thought process is much like mine...I too have struggled with this but I think it's interesting. I wouldn't mind being with an ftm pre-op with only top surgery just to try it out LOL. I think we all should explore sexuality openly it would make life a lot better

[bartisleuk1]

I like you, Dan. I never listen to what you say, I don't care. Make more video's!!! :-)

[chpoof]

I disagree. I think you're being way too cut and dried about it. Just because he found himself attracted to a person who looked just like a man except in the genitalia department doesn't make him bisexual. Bisexuals are sexually attracted to men who look like men and women who look like women. Suppose a man is sexually attracted to a transgender woman who physically looks just like a woman even though she used to be a man. Would that make him bi? I don't think so.

[chpoof]

You must be confusing my post with someone else's. I'm not anti-label at all. On the contrary, I think they serve a very important purpose. I proudly wear the label of a gay man (or I prefer to say "I self identify as gay"). In my experience, folks who are against labels are usually bisexuals.

I think that transgenderism does throw a wrench into the whole topic of sex and sexuality, particularly for those of us who are not transgender.

[DeadWiegraf]

I know what you can call yourself. Beautiful.

[chpoof]

Very thoughtful stuff. Though I'm a gay man, I've found myself attracted to a female-to-male transsexual before. After getting over the initial shock, I realized it really wasn't that big of a deal. It never really caused me to question my sexuality. After all, I was attracted to a person who looked just like a hot man except that he didn't have a penis. There's way more to maleness than genitalia...not that I'm knocking penises, of course, coz I love them too! ;-)

[SmileyguyNZ]

Lets get down to reality, labels don't work.. no one fits them.. Your sexuality is what you make it.. You are allowed to like who you like.., love who you want to and do what you want to. Getting rid of boxes that define us are important.. I like to think of myself as ****** the person.. not the gay guy, straight guy, bi guy, smart, stupid or whatever... The future is learning how to live free of general description and labeling.. being truly individual..

[voiceovergay]

oh i get what 'the elephant in the room means' i just thought it meant odd

[laprescot]

so whats up with you and lyndon now :)

[Dvhuerta2]

OMG isint ur bday on Sunday? Email me

[Lacedbackwards]

your my hero!!!!!!!!!!

[spazboy0987]

that seriously.. no no seriously. just BLEW my mind.

[emeraldaradia]

I gave up on labels such a long time ago. I used to say, to friends who struggled with gender and sexuality identity issues that I just lucked out, because I was pretty stereotypical - a female and a lesbian... And then I fell in love with the most 'manly' man ever - even though I'm still completely attracted only to women except for him.

Now I don't know what to call myself, but I've also given up on trying.

[mikiw1978]

love the last line, so can empathise with that, thnx again 4 refrazin it! X! (by the way I'm a man who used 2 love both sexes, really digs dicks more than vag, still feels attracted 2 some women and really doesnt give a fuck hahaha)

[madestoso]

short version of all this...like mis swan would have said> he liked a girl who looked like a man)))

[QueenCrocuta]

Very interesting and personal video. Made me think a lot, thank you ever so much.

[belamoure]

Boring stuff this is hair splitting. Muslims do not care about it our white civilization is a minority destroyed by small ideas like that.

[mikiw1978]

R U serious?

[AngelicLight]

Wow! quite a well written and thought out paper/ presentation. I have to say that is very interesting and world shattering; However like you said we must get rid of the old and rebuild the new.

[aleksdeabreu]

I'm pretty sure only have of what you said are actual words.

bahaa. kidding. Very inspiring. We all have the privellege of facing challenges in our lives. Those of us that are lucky not only overcome these challenges, but also grow from them. It's not written on our packaging that we come in one flavor. It feels good to demolish those categories and stereotypes. Life would lack excitement if our entire being could be defined by anyone other than ourselves.

[noselfdoubt]

Wow...Dan...these are the times I wish I could have a one on one convo in person. the internet can be so in-personable. But ya taking a personalities class and some other in depth psy classes I have a well rounded answer to the question...everything is open to interpretation, just depends on how u view the world in your own schema's. well if u ever care to chat hit me up. wish u the best.

reguards,

Anthony

[ginia100]

did you and lyndon fuck?

[MrBisexuallySexy]

Dan!!!!!!!! Your awesome and you have an awesome dog too!!!!

[FromDHeart423]

Marry Me. lol

[jakaddams]

this makes perfect since, kudos man kudos!

[Jayyycubbb]

So basically, this has had to be one of my favourite videos from you.

I like when you make "deep" videos, because it makes you seem more complex as a person. Such as you have more depth? If that made any sense at all.

[Irbubble]

Very good presentation. Just out of curiosity, and I do hope that nobody takes offense, but do you also find that people with out of the norm sexualities have a higher tendencies towards identifying themselves through their sexuality as opposed to the straight monogamous non-fetish crowd?

[pokerpstar]

omg his dog is so cute! :P

[todd716]

I think your knowledge and insight have made you a great counsellor. I have learned a great deal about my own insight from your essay. Thankyou.

[Chosenoneknuckles]

Great and thoughtful presentation, fellow Dan. So did you actually read this out at school in the end [and if you did, how were the reactions]?

[lazurowaepuls]

the end just gave me a shock ;O

im totally shocked ! ;O

[TheLastKiss00]

Wow, Dan... I think I could listen to you talk for hours lol. I enjoyed it very much and I thank you for sharing. =)

[Anjellyca13]

It's nice to know someone else can express what I've felt ever since I could understand my own personal feelings.

I've tried to convey these exact feelings to many people but no one ever understands. Wish I had your eloquence on this matter even though I am an English major. I am female, bi, pan...etc...we (collectively) are one. This is the single most honest time we can claim "ONE LOVE". *imo.

[Ambrolen]

Puppy!

[duhbell]

So glad I'm not the only one who saw / was distracted by the puppy.

[Made4542]

What a fantastic essay! I hope you get a A+++ :)

[CarterEv917]

Great video on a "confusing, yet beautiful" mess of a topic. Loved your take on it, and your experiences - refreshing.

[mrowks]

I've been pondering similar thoughts. I notice that not only with these type of situations, but when there is someone very much like myself, I tend to become very hostile towards that person.

As far as sexuality goes...I don't think it really matters. I've had straight friends who were married, but got divorced and later went on to date someone of the same sex though they were very much in love and attracted to the opposite sex previously. And I've seen the opposite occur.

[mr3nos]

i LOVE HOW YOU TAKE THE SUBJECT MATTER INTO A PERSONAL AND OPEN EXPERIENCE. HOPE YOU KICK ASS VERY INTERESTING DISCUSSION!

[charity0009]

So to hell with labels, we must socialize this concept that labels only have meanings as we give them like BLECHLUVER said.

[charity0009]

This was: Complex. Simple. Beautiful. Deep. True. Amusing. Eye-opening. Absolutely amazing. I agree with you 100%. I am a female who is attracted to men and hey I'll say it sometimes women. Have only been sexual with a man, but have kissed a female. Labels is what we look for even for ourselves and its heart wrenching at times(we've been taught this, its all we've known until know).

[lorrenpebley]

what happened to the v-neck

[kmed8]

love it!

[whizardh20]

Dan, glad you decided to Vlog this one. I'll admit it was a bit confusing at first but i understood it. I know how "labeling" or "categorizing" isn't always a good thing but it does help us understand things, does it? Lyndon is a man in all ways except biological. so, your still a homosexual, in my opinion.

[chpoof]

Well said, whizardh20. I agree with you.

[daviddubdub]

Search for: "David Dub"

[todd716]

We will be waiting to hear the results. And thankyou, the insight and knowledge ive gained is astounding.

[MsEclipseGirl]

I like this and agree completely.

[slavinginthedark]

Cool man. I like that you shared about this. Great expression.

[auditman64134]

Dan,

Speaking of confusing man I think that I agree that we don't need labels. I hope that was what you were getting at.

Don

[KIKIspirit]

you rock Dan. it seems like i can relate to all of your videos...especially this one.

[FM897]

You rock, Dan, as always!!!

[glafna]

Awesome paper, hope to hear about how the presentation go

[blueboi05]

Hmmm, i think considering yourself as "nothing at all" goes against our very nature and you might begin to find yourself starved for a form of identity.

WE like to categorize. We like to group. Be it ourselves or bodies around us.

Although labeling yourself may result in a certain loss of your own unique self, it's ultimately inescapable in order to better communicate yourself to others.

[blueboi05]

Ultimately i think it comes down to two things. You're own personal truth/identity, and that perceived (publicly) by others.

TO me, one's personal truth is made up of a list of our basic Drives. LIkes and dislikes. Pleasures and pains. The sum of these are what make up WHO you are.

How these are summed and interpreted are what makes up your perceived identity by others.

You might prefer too not be labeled (gay/bi/pan/queer etc) by others, but i don't think it's healthy as a personal truth.

[Blechluver]

You're exactly right. It is our nature to categorize. Lables and categorizing are the brain's way of orginaizing, it's all mechanics.

To Dan, I would say it would be a better idea to change your own personal definition of what it means to be a gay man. The words "gay" and "striaght" are just words. They alone have no meaning unless we give it to them. You can come up with a new word, so to speak. I've heard others do this before. Social norms take time to change but it does happen.

[jellotime91]

That is the best writing ever. You're amazing!

[videowebworks]

Made me think along with you. I like the whole male body as well as the male mind. People come as a package. You did not like the whole package and this lost the sale...

[keithzworld]

Very well witten Dan, I am very impressed. Most importantly it was honest.

I think if you must define yourself as something, let it be "human"

[jermainehargrove]

5 *****

great message.

[olliebounce]

amazing!

[ABookByAnyOtherName]

I totally agree with you man

[TerryTarry]

love is love :]

[lailaagrado]

well can you imagine ,how hard is to be a MTF who likes gay guys? it is even harderer,every single time you must hidde something from them,and when you get honest they turn they abcks on you...yes it is important nowadays to put yourself in the other peoples shoes

[ruzan10]

I also find FTM fascinating and attractive, however, most of them are NOT interested in gay guys :(

[calamazue1989]

whats FTM mean

[nthingtoofear]

female to male

[AiRbenderg2]

it means that the person is male gendered and female bodied

[hushpuppy03]

This was really amazing!

[bummercucumber]

This raises many good questions. I like it a lot.

[LEYEGHTZ3RO]

This presentation was very eye opening. I enjoyed listening to this and it changed my outlook on attraction.

[Grof142007]

wish i could go thru this experience for myself cause my mind is probably really warped

[IzzyBabe14]

.... wow....That was amazing.. it really opened my eyes once again. Your presentation made me speechless :) 5/5 fave!! Thank you for posting this.

[1bwash]

No offense but I don't follow. Beforehand, your attraction towards others was dependent on genitalia (sex)? I understand the progression of thought in your paper but in terms of actual thought process & sexuality, I don't. Maybe it is just me, but the naked body comes into play late in game comparative to most other factors. I understand how it might be startling to learn that someone is trans but I think you need to better explain why it threw you into this whirlwind of identity confusion.

[Paul4821]

my guess is that,as a gay male, the confusion came from being attracted to a person who didn't have a penis.

[injecotion]

this was amazing. ftms are sexy as hell <3

[juanpablofx]

love it! screw molds and categories.

[TnDon]

These two videos are fabulous. LOVES THEM!

FTM's are fabulous....so sexy due to the T. Get it up faster than you can, I'll bet.

You're so sexy/funny and entertaining, Dan.

[xypowerpop]

wonderful presentation!!

[Myfrogsnameisbob]

Great, I like this. It's interesting that you said "neat categories" because I used tha phrase in my comment on Part 1.

By the way, what happened to you and Lyndon?

[romeogar]

very powerful well done,, just go will whats feels right ,, fab as always xx

[turtledove1993]

okay, i applaud you.

this was amazing.

[DegrassiInstantStar]

Better than the first part. Love it!

[Ciathos]

Interesting subject Dan. Very deep, thanks for posting!

[rainbowpagan]

is it hard to ID your sexuality with all the hate in the world and misunderstanding I understand with Lynden I I gender ID Issiues also and it is not easy

[Lindsayanncory]

awesome

[omjpurple1]

OMG i never really thought about this...

[SexyNinjaPicklez]

Good jobbb.

[Ktangalakis]

Beautifully said.

[JDuckyboy]

agreed :D