Objectification: The Case for Meat Eating pt1

[DavinaFaerie]

you are amazing!!! :0)

[Morethanenough1]

So, you are saying that bc I enjoy fish and a burger I am sexist and racist. LOL. Moronic assumptions based on a personal emotion.

We CAN and DO seperate other animals from human bc we are different. Its not wrong, its logical.

Humans are the only animal on earth to even consider a difference! Your cat doesnt worry about your "feelings" or welfare...it can't!

A chicken doesnt think maybe it should be nicer to the fox...nor does the fox think" maybe i shouldnt eat the chicken?"

[Morethanenough1]

@Morethanenough1 The only reason any animal has "value" is bc WE asign it one.

The only reason you can CHOOSE not to eat meat and by products made from animals is bc ppl ate animals for thousands of years...developed technologies to allow you to choose. Shipping of food...ect.

You say animals don't want be killed or eaten? Of course not...they don't want to live either. They don't have a desire to watch the sun come up or even know it will the next day.

[Morethanenough1]

@Morethanenough1 A lot of ppl like you think having a pet is cruel...WTF? I love my animals...and yes I eat meat..and if I was starving I would eat my dog to live. So would you. If we should give animlas rights...should we charge them for killing other animals? lol..no, thats silly right? but you assign them emotions and thoughts they don't have..give them "rights" they don't understand or appreciate or give to other animals..even you....thats just as silly.

[Morethanenough1]

@Morethanenough1 If you don't want to eat meat, don't . Its REALLY simple. If you don't want to wear makeup made from animal biproducts...don't.

But don't try to force others to live they way you want. Don't try to moralize a persons choice of eating. Ppl who eat meat are good and bad...same as vegans/vegitarians.

[whydid666]

my response of criticism of eating meat....not too much bad for your health, ect., no the argue for a true vegan diet for moral sake.

But we have predatory animals and omnivorous. I take it is okay for one type of animal to eat another right vegan would never vote to "kill the lions, bear, wolves..."

So animals can eat other animals....then what is your objection to an animal an omnivorous primate from eating meat? I'm speaking of humans of course.

[LordClydeofOMAR]

The fact that you self righteous vegan cry babies are so hell bent on pushing your own subjective opinion onto everyone else just makes the meat taste all the sweeter. Why should I consider a fucking cow my equal? A cow can't be a doctor, a senator, a scientist or do anything a human can do. Most animals won't save a human from a burning building, which is why I wouldn't eat a dog, because he would! There is simply nothing to be gained from showing altruism to those that can't reciprocate.

[jehoudas]

@LordClydeofOMAR

According to such an enlightened line of thought of yours why not call for a culling of all disability (human-animal) carriers? Disorderly subjects? And, btw, it's nothing about equality of results, yet equality of opportunities. If you're not too busy measuring your phallus so to reassure yourself about your own virility.

[AfricanPrince]

Again, I agree with your general argument but not the comparisons to pornography or stripping or any other form of sexual expression that you consider inappropriate. To imply that pornography is necessarily objectifies women is to imply that women do not have the same sexual feelings that men have, that sex is just something they give because they feel obligated to do so and not because they are equally aroused. Obviously non-human animals don't have a desire to be killed and eaten. cont'd

[AfricanPrince]

Men can only objectify women if what they're doing to those women goes against their desires and self-interests, whether or not most women want to be treated the way women in porn are treated is irrelevant. To objectify someone is to reduce them to an object with no feelings and no self-interests, you can not objectify someone with their consent because whatever you're doing that someone else might consider undesirable is considered desirable by that person you are 'objectifying'.

[terrapyn99]

I challenge all of the meat eaters who try to justify their diet to watch the documentary 'Earthlings'

It is available on You Tube, just enter "Earthlings - part 1 of 3"

[TheVeganicWitch]

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[Morethanenough1]

@terrapyn99 I can justify it.

1- we are animals who are made to eat other animals.

2- most ppl need meat to sustain a healthy body.

3- I like meat and hunt.

4-killing is not cruel. Most ppl kill animals as painless as possible.

[AmericanNohbuddy]

@terrapyn99

I like to eat meat because it tastes good. There is my reason. Maybe those animals should have evolved better so they wouldn't end up domesticated :)

[subach]

The question is, is cognitive dissonance meant as a coping mechanism for guilt, or as simple advertising tool? Any keen business person would want their product to say to consumers "come buy me."

[TheVeganicWitch]

Well both I guess, the producers of animal products know that in order to better sell their product they need to remove peoples perception of them as far from reality as possible. Obviously they know that most people would be put off meat if they had to be consciously aware of the way the animals were kept and killed. Thanks for watching dude, I'm glad you found these videos interesting...sorry the sound is so low.

[subach]

Makes sense.

I make it a point not to believe or do anything out of dogma. Thus I must concede to eating meat because I've been told my entire life that eating meat was acceptable. So I've got to make a thorough examination of the issue. To be honest I never thought about it, before being pissed off by some ALFie tampering with a lab, searching for "anti-vegan" videos for comic relief, and finding one of your videos. Which of course led me to actually thinking about the topic at hand.

[TheVeganicWitch]

That's awesome dude! Thanks for listening to me, and yeah dogma sucks (no matter what kind), it totally blinds us to reality.

[murrymurrymurrymurry]

@TheVeganicWitch LOL

[therockana]

@subach yes.. becoming a vegan does not necessarily require a dogma... the way I reasoned out is totally devoid of dogma.. I understand that "veganism" is being spread as another "ism"... but really, there are other ways to reason out.. and it's not necessary for us to follow everything what another vegan does.... good luck in your reasoning.. regardless of how end up..... Hail REASON!!

[wingedorangeumbrella]

COGNITIVE DISSONANCE.

We studied that in english class.

Wow. really interesting concept.

Yeah, like those people who put comments like "yummy meat" or whatever on animal rights videos.

Some of that could be cognitive dissonance.

Probably most of it is ignorance.

But I wouldn`t really know.