I wouldn't describe this as "incredible", competent perhaps, if a little stodgy in the rhythm stakes. Listen to Joe Pass if you want incredible chordal interplay and brilliant voicings.
@FreddPepper For me Joe Pass is in a way a great applicator of jazz academic rules, virtuoso cliches that stay just a step up on the root of jazz. The degree of elaboration is high concerning these aspects. If we consider jazz not as a method of apply some rules that you can find on books but as the discovery of something original maybe I would choose other musicians, from Charlie Parker to Charles Mingus, from Pat Metheny to Kurt Rosenwinkel. This is my humble opinion ( ;-) ).
@mdsled I think you have got it the wrong way round, Joe didn't slavishly follow rules, he - along with his generation of players - created them. They only seem like rules because they have been so described in subsequent text books and college courses, Joe never went to college and he was far from being an academic. His playing stays eternally fresh to my ears because he used ideas that worked well, and used them to express something brilliantly. Joe was a big fan of Charlie Parker you know ;)
@mdsled well at some point what you say is true, but Pass was a innovator of his own time. i mean musicians like pat metheny are the people who took a traditional jazz to more contemporary phase which include a great aspect of fusion. but this guy, kurt, he is not really doing a great comping in here and its definitely not at top of contemporary jazz.
I thought he was going to bust into purple haze for a quick second haha. Thankyou so much for sharing these videos man. Hopefully they'll stay up atleast a little while!
thanx a lot for posting this truly incredible video mdsled !!
nevermind stupid comments stupidly comparing jazz guitar greats and saying one is better than another: surely the stupidest thing to do !!
rimittu 4 months ago
I wouldn't describe this as "incredible", competent perhaps, if a little stodgy in the rhythm stakes. Listen to Joe Pass if you want incredible chordal interplay and brilliant voicings.
FreddPepper 4 months ago 5
@FreddPepper For me Joe Pass is in a way a great applicator of jazz academic rules, virtuoso cliches that stay just a step up on the root of jazz. The degree of elaboration is high concerning these aspects. If we consider jazz not as a method of apply some rules that you can find on books but as the discovery of something original maybe I would choose other musicians, from Charlie Parker to Charles Mingus, from Pat Metheny to Kurt Rosenwinkel. This is my humble opinion ( ;-) ).
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mdsled 4 months ago
@mdsled I think you have got it the wrong way round, Joe didn't slavishly follow rules, he - along with his generation of players - created them. They only seem like rules because they have been so described in subsequent text books and college courses, Joe never went to college and he was far from being an academic. His playing stays eternally fresh to my ears because he used ideas that worked well, and used them to express something brilliantly. Joe was a big fan of Charlie Parker you know ;)
FreddPepper 4 months ago 12
@mdsled well at some point what you say is true, but Pass was a innovator of his own time. i mean musicians like pat metheny are the people who took a traditional jazz to more contemporary phase which include a great aspect of fusion. but this guy, kurt, he is not really doing a great comping in here and its definitely not at top of contemporary jazz.
mobyseed 2 months ago
@FreddPepper Finally I could say that JP was not really improvising and singing when playing his phrases
mdsled 4 months ago
so i can hear the blues in there but he's obviously expanding the harmony. anyone know what he's doing exactly? is it melodic minor?
RadiusX7 5 months ago
love the way he expands his tonality from the beginning to the end.
samadhist 6 months ago
G!
twirlyboggs 11 months ago
I thought he was going to bust into purple haze for a quick second haha. Thankyou so much for sharing these videos man. Hopefully they'll stay up atleast a little while!
fender1325 1 year ago 17