NASA UFO CLIP THE GRAN DECEPTION JMT

[TheCrimsonification]

I've seen all the images before, but the tunage made this worth the watch.

[JoelHarvey1]

MINE IS THE REAL DEAL FOLKS DON'T MISS IT

[OnlyBoo1]

BE NICE IF THEY WOULD COME DOWN AND SORT OUT THE BULLSHIT GOVERNMENTS AND THE DESTRUCTION THEY ARE DOING TO THE EARTH!

[chess747]

Fuck I am open minded its you governments and the elite and the church that dont want it out because you feel that everybody is niave its better to prepare man for a war than to let him go in blind folded the ETs want it but you dont thank fuck for the internet I love it the truth will set us free come on show the world so we may change history and be set free but these governments and secret socities and religion fuck it up because you want to control us and put fear into us well fuck you all

[MrKingPin360]

fuckin aliens, they pissed me off! they toyed with us by giving us bullshit religion, then they shagged our women, then they create natural disasters. if they are here to help us, then they will have already done so!! no wonder those folks in area 51 keeping it all a secret, who can blame them? these aliens are just toying with us, which is effectively bullying us humans. i say we should steal their weapons and wipe them off this galaxy!!! who does the probing now!!!

[bombax17]

A w e s o m e

[leilaminette]

I find the music very annoying in so many of these videos...If you must add music to these videos then plz have it faintly in the background so we can hear the important contents. :)

[jpsmart59]

Either we're for Jesus or we're not. If we are not then the demons come in as aliens

to fool us and the world. Please this is spiritual warfare.

[TheBlitz1]

@jpsmart59 that makes a lot of sense...

[ElegantPaws01]

@jpsmart59 Has it occurred to you that your jesus is an alien too...?

[UFOmember]

@ElegantPaws01 We are all aliens. We are all gods in the making.

For more information, visit my channel for George Kavassilas video's, Our Journey and The Grand Deception.

[erichouse2000]

This crap music just won this vid a zero

[AntionneJohnson]

@erichouse2000 If you don't have anything constructive to say about this problem that's approaching us all, don't say a thing. The music you could have avoided by muting your computer. You make yourself seem more ignorant than you are. I thought you came here to be enlightened. Well, if you would have listened to the music, you what have heard that they were talking about what was being shown to you.

[Xmark420x]

Jedi mind tricks powns fools.

[simplycomplicated333]

K this video was interesting until the shitty music started.

[TheBlitz1]

its probably how they reproduce

we are probably them

just babies

grouchy babies

[danishfire]

i agree we are them in an early state of evolution, we are planted here for reserch.

[xadam2dudex]

at 0:12 that is the infrared video should by the Mexican military out in the gulf of mexico .. turned out to be the drilling rigs in the gulf.. at 0:55 that is reflections off the water

[aifammafiaaifam]

if you can think it its possible...........

[32sublimeprince]

The group is called "Lost Children of Babylon".

[soozieqty]

What group is doing the music?

[chironewage]

Jedi MInd Tricks

[CombattRogue]

@CHIRONEWAGE

please be so kind to respond to this comment can you please if you know were to find more info about the artifact at the end of the Video (name,culture etc) i am really interested to find more of that stuf. nice Vid by the way.

[666thealliance]

we are part of a civilization that has yet reached to what the human mind can accomplish. we ARE put here by these amazing beings because we are just another part in the pawn game for science alone. And these 'beings' will not wait for us to sit on our asses and do nothing with our lives, which in sense in 2012, will be the eradication of our species, due to the fact we failed as our ancestor's said we will..

[rudijow]

wow,,, your afreaking waco waiting to happen,,,, peace,,,,,, earthling

[Marzz5585]

wow your crazier than a bag of nuts.

[XQbit]

He's got a point though.

[GenOptimist]

I think that us humans are an experiment of some Aliens. The keep observing us to see to what extent can we develop! I'm personally dying to see some other intellegent life out there outside system.

[liverpoolbestcity]

hahaha i have thought that to it would explain alot of things

[01SonofAbe]

Agreed. there is more proff of that then anything else pertaining to the origin of the human race.

[cerebrox2000]

God is bambutunuk the methusela grey that ejaculated on early simians mutating them into us but locking our dna within our pinneal gland by shutting it off

[01SonofAbe]

I saw those interviews too. David Icke is a moron.

[jecian1978]

The bible never says how old the world is. The bible never says anything against evolution either. The bible was written in a comparitively primitive time. The concept of quantum physics did not exist. Don't judge the bible because of the way you were raised to interpret it. God is a computer? That's retarded. Computers were built by humans. Programs are created by humans. Aliens are a program as well? Science fiction is well... fiction. Basing your beliefs of existence on 2 movies is lame.

[TheBlitz1]

hahaha you said god being a computer is retarted ahahhahahahahahahah aahahhahahahah aaaaaaaaaaahh hahahahaha

[meatflowers]

forgive me if i don't believe christians when they say it's true and have shit evidence which contradicts so much well founded science. maybe you like to believe whatever you're told without any proof, but personally i prefer to see a statement tested before someone says it's true. it's the way science works. you come up with an idea and try to prove it either way. frankly i'm bored of naive people who believe crap without seeing it tested. it holds back human development with this stoneage idea

[meatflowers]

or let me guess you think our radiocarbon dating, tree ring studies (i forget the official name) and other such science used for dating things is totally innaccurate? you can't have it both ways. either our science is mysteriously TOTALLY wrong, which goes against all the evidence or some fantasy book written back when man was very ignorant of the world is wrong. hmm i wonder.

[meatflowers]

wait god PUT dinosaur bones there, because of a flood? you're saying two different things. erither god put them there or they are there because of a flood. also how does there being a flood explain how there are bones of creatures dating back 180,000,000 years. something like 179,995,000 years before christians believe the earth was made. if you like to live in a fantasy world without proof, have fun. the real world is somewhat different.

[jetsetradio78]

muy bien por el video... pero la segunda cancion es un asco

[pspabz]

whats the name of the very first song?

[yl104]

there must another intelligent life on earth

[meatflowers]

don't you find it just a little bit concerning when the bible claims the earth is thousands of years old and we find dinosaur bones dating back millions? 'GOD PUT THEM THERE TO TEST OUR FAITH'.....if ever people were clinging to a dream because they can't let go and see reality for what it is, good or bad....

wake up mate, you've been had. either your god doesn't exist at all and the bible is bullshit or god is a prankster with low self-esteem. you choose. either way it sucks quite frankly.

[natruto]

wow.. you are funny! if you think every christian believes that "god put dinosaurs bones in the dirt to test our faith".. you are gravely mistaken... the bible says nothing about that... but the bible does talk about dragons and the behomoth though.. you act like youre all knowing, but atheism is the BELIEF or DOCTRINE that there is no god.. you can't prove there is no god.. and you cant prove what god's intention is... i happen to think god put the dinosaur bones in the dirt because of a flood

[meatflowers]

i donb't think all christians believe that, it is however what many DO think as an excuse. i don't act like i'm all knowing, i'm trying to prove that those who follow cvhristianity are following something based on nothing but contradictions. i can't prove there is no god, but religious people can't p[rove there is. if someone makes a statement it is only presumed to be true once they prove it. anything MIGHT exist, but if someone will say god does then give evidence.

[southsidecalifas]

this reality is an illusion. take your head out of your ass. we are living in a subjective reality

[meatflowers]

that's fine. proof please.

you can't say something like that and expect people to take you seriously unless you PROVE YOUR OUTLANDISH CLAIMS. also what has that got to do with ANYTHING we have talked about? now who's changing subject?

[jrk666]

So what you are saying is, The matrix is real? or like the thirteen floor.

Even if we do, then the one we call "god" is the one created our "world" we could be a program, a small loop in a binary world. we are living in virtuel riality. My point is, Why belive in god then? :)

[TheBlitz1]

Technically god is not a continuous organism, its just a quantum computer running program simulations of different mathematical interactions (i.e. acquiring intelligence).

[jrk666]

Yeah, Like the movie " THe thirteen floor " :D

[420365666]

that's the devil

[meatflowers]

if you give a shit about god's will then stop arguing with me and do some fucking good in this time instead. you hypocritical shithead. i doubt god will be impressed that you sp[end all day dodging good counter arguments against him and insulting me and fellow non-believers. i think he'd rather you fucked off and earned your wonderful heaven by actually getting off your lazy ass and doing more good.

[meatflowers]

and how am i the one with the ego? i don't spend time brown-nosing a god (why does a perfect being even need you to love him or care, he's perfect so it shouldn't matter unless he's got low self-esteem) to try and get heaven for myself and others. and really how many religious people, yourself included really devote their lives to doing god's will and making the world better anyway? do you spend all your time helping build schools in africa, or digging wells? i highly doubt it.

[southsidecalifas]

you are talking a bunch of bullshit and you didnt poke any holes in what i said

[meatflowers]

so it would be nice if someone preaching bullshit about god wouldn't claim some moral highground whilst referring to non-believers as assholes. by your own logic god will find you a twat for being so intollerant of people who have clearly justified their beliefs as opposed to the either totally vague or flawed logic your religion preaches. so have fun in hell you hypocrite.

[southsidecalifas]

you assholes keep talking about no god this and no god that, but the minute things get hecktic watch yourself surrenduring your souls to the creator whom you have bashed all your life

[meatflowers]

i'm pretty sure your god wouldn't like you referring to non-believers as ass-holes. you present me with bad philosophy and i highlight it. either you give philosophy which i can't easily pick holes in (no luck so far) or you accept that i'm justified in believing this. of all the qualities to have in a human, i expect god doesn't want everyone to be blind sheep when it's so easy to be deceived, especially on such abstract matters. i'm highly justified in my stance

[southsidecalifas]

i cant wait to hear the bullshit you have to say about this

[southsidecalifas]

it does not mean that he knows what choices we will make, and that is his gift. our future all depends on us and the choices we make as a race. our future will be one of many possible futures based on the choices we made in our life using our free will.

[meatflowers]

well either you accept god doesn't know everything or you're saying he accepts that ANYTHING is possible and knows that? dude... we ALL know that anything is possible if different choices are made. just how silly is that, really.

[th3w4tchm3n]

Obama & the anti-Semitic fallen 'aliens' just in time for 2012! There will be so called "disclosure" of supposed type III "aliens" under the tenure of Obama any time from 2009 to 2012. After decades of conditioning, billions will fall for it but you won't because we are talking about it here and now before it even happens, plus you are going to read about it in 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12

Google/youtube: Phil Scnieder; Project Bluebeam; TR-3B; Haunebu;Nazi Bell; Merkabahs; Vimanas; Verichip Corp

[meatflowers]

also this video is great and i love this music, it's fucking great

[OldKrypton]

Fuck yeah the song for this is PERFECT!

[Moze9]

Who are the artist rapping??

[OldKrypton]

Jedi Mind Tricks

From their album the Psycho, Social, Chemical, Biological, Electromagnetic Manipulation of Human Concsciousness.

Yeah, that's the album's name. Their best album ever.

[tim56398]

this isnt bible class people...

[TonyStarkesIronman]

Outstanding music i like it very much Who is this? this is a very glorious You tube Video. Iam impressed, i want a UFO to fly around the universe with.

[Gravelbone]

the music is jedi mind tricks

[TonyStarkesIronman]

WOW Best youtube clip ever, i like this very much.

[gjaybee]

This is a great clip and track. Can anyone point me in the direction more of the editor, 'Profound' videos? Or the name of the track.

Peace

[willjack08]

Hey, i noticed u were after the track, me 2 have you found it yet. i think its by can-i-bus not sure though?!?

[crazyknight2008]

remember when religion ruled the world.....it was called the dark ages....enough said....wonder wot the wolrd will be like if all religion was banned :)

[Guatemalanfatkid]

belief systems = guidance and regulation.

[kingtubby2001]

belief systems = control

control = slave

slave = control

[jrk666]

Could have not said it more clearly my self.

In every time in our history, control has been the major occupation in the human race.

[jesusaurus09]

ROFL

[therm0baric]

Religion Saves but it also BLINDS!

This is a Religion Poisoned World!

[dieselscience]

But radical Islam is to DIE for!

[sheepstir]

LOL

[bash186]

I understand ignorence,but most of you guys are just plain stupid,this vid is just that , stupid.If you are really intrested in what is coming, keep searching, it IS here.

[sativa303]

What band/group is this ? It kicks ass.

[basicminusba]

christians are dumb.

[burngreyx]

racist wanker

[sheepstir]

lol, if your christian thanks for proving his point.

Christianity is a belief system not a race, dumb ass.

[basicminusba]

Christian is not a race r tard

[dieselscience]

Hey, 'basic' Dumb just means "dumb" just means 'does not know any different' YOU are stupid. Everyone knows stupid cannon be fixed.

[southsidecalifas]

haha

[bribrihomes]

the universe is what we are made of all of us!! beings of light

united

open your minds

space is endless

[Luxeferian]

That would be fucked up to wake up one day and find out that we are planted here by some other terestrial species.

ALIEN: Hi kids daddies home. lol

[WoodlandRavah]

Perhaps not planted, but directed...

[jrk666]

Superb! i always had and still have a feeling that we are spawn of Alien super race, the human race is the only one who has evolved so fast over the last 200.000 year since the first "Human ape" could walk... look at other creatures, they havent evolved or even gained more intelligence...

[Ashwento]

Wake up man, there is no "Alien super race". Its very simple, life was intelligently designed with the ability to adapt to changing environments i.e. microevolution.

There are "watchers"(angels) appointed over mankind, but they are not physical creatures which is why the nasa objects cannot be observed in visible light but only in the higher frequency UV spectrum.

[tisdue]

Wow. But what about the inner-atmosphere UFOs? They are visible and widely documented. I believe those may be our own Government testing our own technology. That's why they "deny knowledge of UFOs." They dont say "hey we see them, but we dont know what they are." They say "They have no knowledge of them." Like they dont see them?? come on.. I dont buy it.

[jrk666]

So only humans gets the advantage in nature.. nah i think not. and i belive you are religuis when you preclaims there is "angels" i belive in my self, i am my own god.. though i do not say there is something the man kind cannot explain, but a god who created us nope.. perhaps the ancient people called " god " the creator the " aliens " who knows not you not me.

[Ashwento]

"i belive in my self, i am my own god"

And yet you also believe that you are the spawn of some "alien super race". You seem confused, as if you have had some bad influences on your life. I am a Christian. The "ancients" called God "the existing one", not "alien".

[jrk666]

No im not confused, i dont say the " aliens are my god" please try not to draw your own conclusions from what i type.... I am my own god, i do not follow some book that tells me i need to do this or this happes to me. I decide what i wish to do, no one or anything tells me to do, not even the " aliens " even if they created me, thats why i am my own god! i put my faith in my self and not in some book or anything else.

[Ashwento]

oh please, "i do not follow some book" yet you put 666 in your user name... knowing full well that is from the book of revelation. Yes, you are being influenced, the spirit world is real... you just dont know it... yet.

[jrk666]

I will end this discussion here, i can see you have no clue for what i stand for, not even have you seen my favorite and see i do belive in spritir.. og well you religius people will always look into you book even if you life depended of it, "its the will of god" you would say, even if you lost you child to some drunk fuc***, you would still say "its the will of god" take control of your own life, still living in good faith, but your own peacefully, loving and carring faith!

[jrk666]

i write to fast and didnt look for miss spells :)

[Ashwento]

you believe you are your own god, you believe in spirtualism, you use 666.. sounds pretty similar to satanism to me. Your control over your life is very limited, without God nothing is guaranteed. Dont waste your life!

[jrk666]

All i can say is, that you are fully manipulated 100% loyal to a book someone told you to belive in! you already wasted your life.

[jrk666]

666 is invented by cristians beleifs, its called control, if you dont belive in god you belive in the devil, meaning you need to submit to "god" and who control you on earth, the religius leaders in all religions.

Religion is the biggets lie/manipulation on earth.

Show me god, god has only been written about, thats not a proof!

If i write about something and people starts to belive it, that doesnt mean its true!!

[Ashwento]

"show me god"

If you want to find God, you have to put in work. Nobody can do it for you.

"he rewards those who diligently seek him" Hbr 11:6

Ask yourself. Why should you be rewarded for doing nothing? You are nobody special. You think you are a god, you are a nobody. The first step is to admit that you are nothing, and use that humility to diligently seek God.

[jrk666]

You speak the tongue of a manipulated man!

and who are you to judge about me not doing anything good. I can rip apart your religion cos it aint true! all what you are saying is not proofable.

And btw, try to reply on my comment instead of take one sentence and leave the rest!

[meatflowers]

does god have an inferiority complex? why does god care if some little insignifcant 'nobodies' as you say believe in him or not? has god got better things to do than make such a fuss about nobidies?

[Ashwento]

its called "potential", we are made in his image and therefore have incredible potential, even to have eternal life. but if we are alone and without him we can do nothing, we are "nobodies". So we must first deny ourselves, then we can follow him.

Take a look at this story to see what im saying

watch?v=EPK1GEGWS8M

[meatflowers]

but you didn't answer my questions at all.

potential does not answer why should god care about us. why should god care about potential? an infinitely powerful and intelligent being also sees the future and thus knows what we will do before we do it, rendering all this elemtn of choice meaningless and false. if that is true then god will punish us for crimes he knows we will commit? honestly......

either answer my questions or you can't expect me to check your link

[Ashwento]

"then god will punish us for crimes he knows we will commit?"

Not exactly, it goes like this...

First, God the father created the world for his son Jesus.

Then Jesus gave his life for the sins of the whole world.

Then God put Jesus in charge of judging all of mankind(The father is not going to judge anyone).

Jesus does NOT know every choice we will make, also he does not know the day and the hour of judgement day, only the father knows that.

[meatflowers]

'it goes like this?' and how do you know this? because a book says so. such a lack of critique is frankly absurd.

if jesus does not know every choice we will make then he does not know everything and if he does not know everything he doesn't match the definition of god which christians believe in. now in the process of god being perfect that's a contradiction for any one part of him to be anything less than perfect. what you talk of is not god.

[meatflowers]

and out of interest do you believe a god which knows everything can make something which it doesn't know of yet? or can it, as the old saying goes, make a stone too heavy for itself to lift?

circular logic is awful philosophy.

[meatflowers]

and also i wish to understand why an all good god makes an imperfect being like man which is weak and easily tempted, gives it a temptation and then punishes it for not resisting. if that happened in normal dfaily life you would call this creator evil but for no good reason i've ever been presented god manages to defy his own logic. how can god expect stupid imperfect beings to behave in a certain way when they are doomed to fail and then judge THEM when they do?

[meatflowers]

and when a child is born in an area which has never heard of christianity with parents who abuse it and teach it that killing is good, when that child turns out what we call a sicko jesus will judge him potentially negatively even though he never had a chance of learning what is 'good'. we are all the product of our environment and upbringing and we are essentially just what our experiences lead us to be. so all wrong doers and evil doers have no blame for being raised into their evil

[meatflowers]

and i'm pretty sure that a god which teaches selflessness won't be too impressed if people spend their time trying to please him just so they fulfill their own selfish wishes. whilst doing something for another is certainly nice, you only do so out of personal joy taken from seeing the good deed done for the other, which is inherently a selfish act. so if god wants you to be selfless, it's is paradoxically impossible for you to do anything without selfish interests at heart.

[southsidecalifas]

we don't worship god for our own selfish desire to go to heaven, but to open the eyes of others and try to literally make heaven on earth. and another thing, god does not have our future written down in stone, that is why he gave us free will.

[meatflowers]

you don't worship god for your own selfish desire to go to heaven? that's why every christian cites going to heaven as a reason to believe in god? and you want heaven to be on earth, that's also your want coming first, by giving god what he wants so you get to enjoy heaven on earth. you can't avoid the sellfishness since it's actually inherent

[southsidecalifas]

the gift of god is not only life, but the ability to judge things based on your own perspective and free will. sure it says god knows all that was, is, and will be. this doesnt mean that there is only 1 possible future. maybe god knows of different possible futures that can be depending on the choices we make.

[Ashwento]

"jesus will judge him potentially negatively even though he never had a chance of learning what is 'good'"

Who told you that? Jesus had a teaching regarding this very subject.

"people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given" Luke 12:48

[Ashwento]

You don't understand the teaching of selflessness, look at C.S. Lewis, he was a hardcore atheist... when he converted to Christianity he wrote a sermon called "the weight of glory" that talks about how he misunderstood "selflessness" when he was an atheist.

[Ashwento]

doxaweb,com/assets/doxa,pdf

[meatflowers]

will you explain why god bothers dealing with us at all if he knows everything (therefopr the future) and thus knows what we will do before we do it? and if god knows what we will do before we do it then free will is entirely an illusion and if we don't have free will then judging us for our actions is totally unfair because we didn't decide whyat we were going to do, it was already decided, we just inevitably made the certain decision which would lead to the future which god already knew.

[meatflowers]

i don't misunderstand selflessness. you talk about trying to reach heaven, you're in this for your own great future rather than because you care about the meaning behind it. selfishness is not a virtue and it is something which religious people everywhere illustrate constantly by acting how the religion teaches so they get to go to heaven. they do it for themselves first, god second. and what i said is true. unless you do something entirely free from thought you are always selfish.

[meatflowers]

you're missing the point, it says god will punish a person who had no chance to know what he did was 'wrong'. that is immoral on every level and doesn't adhere to this forgiveness idea which god always preaches of. when confronted by a god which says 'you did wrong apologise' when they had no chance of knowing you can fairly say why didn't YOU (god) tell me personally then so i could know.

[sattanhellsing]

Meatflowers : you made by fare one of the most Bullet-proof comment about GOD and religion . You are a Great person to think like this,and i would like to thank you too!

There is no GOD !! as simple as thats!

And to the poster of this video , 5 stars mate and keep up the great work !!

[meatflowers]

thanks mate! you know it just makes me so mad. people setting out with a pre-decided idea and trying to prove it right by any means, good or bad, rather than really trying to assess everything and then working out logically what is right. i don't disbelieve because i don't want to believe. i wish there's a god and i will go to heaven, but realistically christianity is based on awful, inconsistent philosophy, circumstantial and highly unrelieable evidence and i can't accept that, it's just bad.

[Ashwento]

Its called "glory".

When a nation wins a tough long battle the victory is more "glorious" than if the win was very easy.

We are talking about eternal life here. Who would want to be rewarded for not going through anything? Temptation is not all bad. We have to overcome just like Jesus who was "for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor".

[meatflowers]

as i already said. if a teacher sets his 5 year old pupil a mathematical equation which it has no realistic hope of working out, and he punished him for not getting it right, you would call this man evil. your god is doing the exact same thing and you pretend he is not?

the arrogance of you to claim that this unprovable philosophy of religion is true is remarkable. it's entirely impossible to conclusively prove god to be real and all the evidence is favouris circumstantial and often contradicts

[southsidecalifas]

god doesnt know what we will do before we do it. he knows of the possible outcomes that can result from our choices we make, but he doesn't know the definite path that one is going to take. get your shit right

[meatflowers]

oh so god isn't perfect. fair enough then, but i could have sworn you were praying to a PERFECT being. one which is omniscient? you haven't addressed my point at all. as i said everyone knows what all the possibilities are, what matter is knowing what you WILL do. if you don't know what you WILL do you don't know everything. it's a contradiction to claim otherwise. only a religious person could fail to see the awful logic.

[southsidecalifas]

and whatever the fuck you are talking about knowing everything, nobody said anything about knowing everything. this is all your head messing with you twisting everyone's words. nobody knows what THEY will do until the time actually comes. and as for the perfect being comment, whose comment are you referring to? you seem to jump around different subjects but end up not really saying anything at all. it's all gibberish. listen to yourself

[meatflowers]

GOD is supposed to be perfect. and yet with your own comments you accept that he isn't. at least decide one or the other, he's perfect or not, he can't be both. and everyone knows all the possibilities as in i know ANYTHING is possible if all the factors like decisions make it happen. therefor it's not a special quality if god has that too. i'm not twisting words and i'm not dodging logical arguments, you are.

[Guatemalanfatkid]

religius control??....well i have a free will i can believe what i want.... if i choose to believe in good is MY choice..... if thats what you call control then...

[jrk666]

I dont get your point. God is a big thing - Im talking religion here - the belief - the pointers in every religion that makes you controlled in some way. Not god in the whole point.

[Guatemalanfatkid]

well yeah, i kind of get your point now, back in the days there was no laws or goverment (ancient history)...religion was the "law" laws does not make us slaves..it makes us follow and live organized. without law or religion there is no organization or "control" over large masses of people, in other words is a really bad thing...religion keeps us from chaos, but in no way is "controlling us" for the better of a superior being...is really just helping us for the better of ourselfs.

[jrk666]

I can also see your point, but i must say, religion can also be used in a bad way, you see it everyday. But home Religion is the best ,no matter what you belive in. No one can tell you what the Book/books says, only you can interpitate it your self, No matter religion.

Peace.

[southsidecalifas]

in the end all religions end up in the same place

[jrk666]

So what you are saying is that - Good behavier like a good christian or a good muslim is the same as a suiside muslim and a neoconservatist christian?

im sorry to dissapoint you but religion is a tool to control the public.

[southsidecalifas]

i don't know where you get a suicide muslim or neoconservatist from what i said. you must not know how to read and comprehend

[jrk666]

You say all relegions end the same place, So im asking you: So it doesent mean anything what you do in life or wich relegius guide lines you follow you end up the same place... can you understand now?

[meatflowers]

so then when one religion ambigiously suggests that you MUST do one thing or else and another says you don't have to, that's leading to the same place? how can you be expected to choose? what's even the point in choosing? why not just be a nice person to other people and if some weird illogical god somehow does exist (really seems improbable) he will surely appreciate it. at least more than acting like a sheep just because a fuckjing 2000 year old book says so. seriously. gullable? YES YOU ARE.

[southsidecalifas]

in the end we were all created by one creator. everytime someone says something you rant about your bullshit egotistical nonsense that is based on nothing but your own self centered bullshit. when you can release your ego you will realize that there is a deeper reality than this.

[meatflowers]

this is not egotistical to put logic before everything else. i have WANTED to find god i have wanted to have faith in christianity, but if you stop following your heart and start using what 'god' put inbetween your ears you will see it's so riddled with contradicting logic and unsubstanciated 'proof' that i can't take it seriously. i wont run from any philosophical arguments i try to address them and reach the logical answer. so far the main religions have given me FUCK ALL solid, until then...

[southsidecalifas]

stop twisting everyone's fuckin words into something that you can bash because the bullshit you speak has no substance. it looks like a kid throwing a tantrum because no one wants to listen to him.

[southsidecalifas]

if you dont have faith in the spiritual world then that is fine with everybody, but don't go around disrespecting peoples' faiths just because you think you are right in your own little tiny ego filled mind and try to convince them to give up theirs. get over it, your bullshit does not want to be heard. there is more to these 5 sense and this material world so get the fuck over it

[meatflowers]

there's more? ok cool. proof please.

[meatflowers]

no, apparently it's not fine with everybody. i'm constantly being confronted by morons telling me my lack of faith is wrong, that i will not go to heaven (and probably go to hell) if i don't convert and have people trying to convince me to join all the time. i got in an argument with some stupid mormons just 3 days ago because they were trying to convert me. so seriously don't play the innocent side. religious people are harrassing people all over the place.

[southsidecalifas]

mormons? please. you are one serious retard

[meatflowers]

what? i've been harrassed by religious people ever since i was a kid. in school we were forced to sing hymns, on the streets people come up and try to convert you, they shout how we're all going to hell if we don't change. they brainwash children with claims they can't back up at all, going against what all scientific evidence suggests. religion has been oppressing people since its creation. it's caused so many wars, so much suffering for the victims. it makes me sick.

[southsidecalifas]

and this bullshit you idiots speak of about religion made up to control people. wrong. religion was introduced to our world to encourage people to live positive lives full of love and compassion. the people who use religion for control is these demons that run the world. they're the ones who have been manipulating humanity and hiding ancient knowledge that probably holds the secret of the ancients about life and spirituality.

[southsidecalifas]

you are the blind sheep that is convinced that there is nothing more and that we are just bags of meat with legs. don't blame religion about controlling the people, blame the people who were the first ones to discover the secrets of the ancients. those are the people you should be bashing about your religious opinions.

[meatflowers]

how am i the blind sheep? every religious argument people throw at me i take into consideration and then inevitably there are MASSIVE logical holes in the whole lot. i'm not the one praying to a deity i can't even prove exists with qualities i can't prove. i'm not the one rejecting common sense for blind faith in a system i can't base on anything objective. i don't trust the word of a book thousands of years old. now you tell me who is the sheep there.

[Randeez1]

sick1!!!

[williams45]

very well done !