Figures: Spanish armada 1588 vs English armada 1589:
Spanish armada- 1.800 spanish causalities& 5 ships sunk (just considering causalities by english weapons).
English armada- 13.000 english dead or captured+ other 5.000 english desertors+30 ships sunk or captured (just considering causalities by Spanish weapons).
LOOOOL compare! and remember that the anglo-spanish war of 1585-1604 was a spanish victory.
@Komnenit Medium sized spanish fleet +PLUS+ the FRENCH Navy (that was the storngest navy in the world at the time) PLUS the Brits were outnumbered in Trafalgar and lost NO ships (if they did it was only 1) plus the brits captured 20 ships
@alekzander2010 RIGHT. Now lets move to a real battle. SPAIN vs ENGLAND. 6 spanish ships, 3000 soldiers and 600 indian archers ALMOST ANNIHILATED 28.000 English soldiers, 186 SHIPS!!! (LARGEST FLEET EVER GATHERED UNTIL D-DAY) And 4000 recruits from Virginia. You can't EVEN COMPARE Cartagena de Indias with Trafalgar. YOU JUST CAN'T. Please type 'battle of Cartagena de Indias' in wikipedia, just to appreciate a REAL outstanding victory.
Tu nación de piratas da risa. Malvinas argentinas btw.
@alekzander2010 You are comparing a battle in which England fought with 31 ships against 33 spanish and french ships...you just can even compare with cartagena de Indias....186 English ships and 28K men defeated by 3k spaniards and 6 ships LOL at England.
You always tend to manipulate history to your advantage, always minimizing others victories and glorifying yours, even though they aren't as great as the ones of Spain or France. GB: A nation based on piracy, imperialism and genocide
@alekzander2010 Few brits? Dont make me laugh! You meant BAD WEATHER and dutch rebels? Oh yes, that was what you meant.
The armada invencible of 1588 was followed by an english retaliate to the iberic peninsula in 1589, which resulted in a complete spanish victory. Face it, your country over-values some insignificant defeats and try to ERRASE its humilliating DEFEATS...1589, 1741...and the list just goes on and on...
MALVINAS ARGENTINAS, GIBRALTAR ESPAÑOL. Get out of Argentina and Spain!
@alekzander2010 Dude..3000 spaniard soldiers and 600 indian archers can beat the greatest british fleet ever assembled of 186 ships and can pwn 28K british soldiers...
You have run out of arguments which only shows that you accept that the victories your country over-values are insignificant compared to spanish or french militar history which is FULL of glorious, TRUE victories. Cartagena de Indias, Contraarmada, Austerlitz, Navas de Tolosa. Show me a british Lepanto or St Quentin LOL
the duke of parma hated the whole idea of the armada and leaving the low countries to go to england, he wanted to stay in the low countries and expand on he didn't want to go to england.
It was very unlikley that the spanish armada would succeed because the Duke of Parma had written off the whole campaign before the armada even set sail and the armada made was doomed from the start they didn't bring no transport ships so they wouldn't be able to pick up parma's army from the low countries and move them to england and the Duke of Parma whole hated the whole idea of the spanish armada,Parma wanted to stay and expand on in the low countries he didn't like the idea going to england.
@shauntheassassin The Spanish Army in the Netherlands, had their own troops barges. The Armada's job was to escort these barges across the channel to England.
Whose side is God on, he can't decide? no ones ? Phillip II thought God would be on his side but the Armada failed.The repulse of Spanish naval might gave heart to the Protestant cause across Europe, and the belief that God was behind Protestant cause was shown by striking of commemorative medals that bore the inscription," He blew with His winds, and they were scattered". But the U.S. in 1776 thought God was with Washington against Britain. Everyone claims God's on their side.
when the armada was caught in the first storms at corunna on 19th of june then after they were repaired and then set sail for second time in july 21st-22nd and then after armada set sailing for the 2nd time I wish that another storm near brittany had happand and this time the armada crashed into brittany and the armada was destroyed completely and washed away into the sea and the the spanish was stranded in brittany for good, that is what should of happand, but I wished the armada never happand
Duke of Parma hated the idea of the spanish armada he wanted to stay in the low countries and not go to england and expand on but he couldn't because of a nother foolish decision in madrid, spanish armada was very unlikely to succeed because Duke of Parma had written off the whole campaign before the armada even set sail, and before the Spanish Armada set sail Medina Sidonia urged Philip to make peace but Philip didn't liston to him, this was Philip plan but Sidonia and Parma hated it.
Duke of Parma hated the spanish armada idea because he wanted to stay in the low countries, and not go to england and if parma was ready there would of been 5 probloms 1st they didn't bring no transport ships 2ed they would have to defeated the english fleet first and 3rd how would parma army be able to cross to the armada without the dutch fleet seeing them and attacking them if they were spooted the dutch would kill them all of parma's army 4th bad weather 5th shallow water for two miles out.
spanish armada was doomed from the start because they didn't bring transport ships to pick up parma's army, but parma had written the whole campaign off before the spanish armada set sail, parma hated the idea of the spanish armada plan, parma wanted to stay inthe neverlands and he didn't want to go to england.
duke of parma didn't bother getting his army ready because he hated the idea of the spanish armada, and he wanted to stay in the neverlands, not go to england and the duke of parma didn't like his army put on short rations and lost more than a third of its manpower, duke of parma wished to stay in the neverlands and expand on not go to england , but he couldn't because another foolish decision in madrid.
@belac0r92 You should be thankful that we helped liberate your country from your 'allies', the French, during the Peninsular War. Just remember that next time please
yes, but it is a pity that the important battles of the peninsula war were won by us: Battle of Bailen, Battle of Saragossa, battle of Girona, Battle of Cádiz and of course the 2nd rebolution in Madrid.
ENGLISH? complettly useless. You manly helped to the portuguese.
@belac0r92 The battle of Salamanca, battle of vitoria, seige of san sebastian. All important battles that helped to throw the French out of Spain. Say what you like but you couldn't have done it without us and the Portuguese.
@belac0r92 If the Spanish had managed to successfully invaded England, it would have turned into a nuisance for them just like the Peninsular War did with the French. After all there were no riches to be had in England like there were in South America. Spain was much better off concentrating on there as they did afterwards
If Spain had successfully invaded England, would probably not have happened, just another country would be governed by the rule of the Habsburgs.
A good example is the Belgian or the Neapolitans, It were European countries who liked being ruled by the spanish king.
And the queen Elizabeth I was not much popular in all GB. And problably were many english who prefered being ruled by an HAsburg (a very prestigious European dynasty).
English put a candle to God for having given bad weather and storms will pryecto channel during the invasion, because if not today speak Spanish. On ships that transport vast majority traveling in the best infantry the moment along with that came from Flanders had swept the British a few weeks. England had a strong professional army, and Spanish troops were hardened from years of war in Europe
the duke of parma did not like the sound of the spanish armada thats why he didn't
show and embarkation his troops at dunkirk, and parma was two weeks away, but if parma was ready at dunkirk another problem would of arose how did parma army get across with out the dutch fleet seeing them and attacking them if the dutch spotted them the dutch would kill all of parma's army and the the armada would have been a complete waste of time and it would of failed,
Actually, Starkey isn't quite right about the hellburners. The latter were highly sophisticated floating bombs and there was no secret about them as they had been used at the siege of Antwerp in 1585. The fireships used against the Spanish Armada at Calais roads were just that, vessels packed with anything that would burn but little in the way of explosives. However, the Spanish thought that they were hellburners, which is why they legged it fast.
pity spanish armada did not crash into brittany, and got destroyed, not be able to rebuild the armada because the armada should have got washed away . that's what should of happened.
@TheMunyiri In other words: you are a clown trying to be a smartass and babbling about things you have no clue about. Stop trying to learn history from True Romance and Afrocentric RAP songs and actually learn from real books and historians who specialize in such subjects.
Spanish are semetic coz the arabs fucked them in 710 when the moors conquered them, the fucking world knows that, in italy only the northern part is white, those in the south are also semetic, this is due to hannibal army invasion of italy, hannibal army was a mixture of arabs and african, they stayed in italy for 15 years, so you can imagine the results, so in other words spanish are not white, in europe the english, irish, german and the french are considered the white race.
@TheMunyiri Too bad for your ignorant delusions that: 1- Your precious "Moors" did not even make up 5% of the population of the Iberian Peninsula, the bulk of Muslims there were just native converts to Islam (consult, for example, professor Richard Hitchcock, "Mozarabs in medieval and early modern Spain", 2008, page 2.)
2- The armies of Hannibal in fact entered Italy through the north, via southern France, thus that would make them also "nonwhite" according to your silly "military invasion = massive race mixing" theories. 3- Hannibal's armies were in fact mostly made up of his Iberian and Celtic allies, not Carthaginians:
"Carthaginian armies were mercenary armies, and their commanders did not possess the advantage of, say, Roman generals, whose troops were motivated by national pride and patriotism. More often than not, Hamilcar's armies, and later Hannibal's, contained only a minority of Carthaginians, the rest being tribal levies recruited during the campaign itself." R. A. Gabriel, "Great captains of antiquity", 2001. Page 116.
"Hannibal's army included Celtiberians and Lusitanians, peoples of Celtic origin who inhabited the northern half of the peninsula. The majority of Hannibal's troops would, however, have been Iberians proper, from the southern half of the peninsula." - Gregory Daly, "Cannae: the experience of battle in the Second Punic War", 2003. Page 95.
4- Contrary to your idiotic claims, Spaniards are indeed white (if they weren't, then needless to say northern Italians wouldn't be either), and in fact the southern Europeans most genetically distant from North Africans & Middle Easterners. 5- French & Britons are in fact related to Iberians since remote times (a lot of Brits & Irish look nothing like Scandinavians and can easily pass in France & Spain; this was even pointed out many times by British anthropologists and ethnologists themselves.
6- Following your clueless ideas about history, we would have to also conclude that Brits are not "white" either, since thanks to the late Roman multi-ethnic armies that conquered Britain they are the only northern Europeans to have ever endured several centuries of "Moorish" (and Syrian, Arab and Anatolian) presence:
"The Notitia Imperii shows us that bodies of SYRIANS, CILICIANS, Spaniards, MOORS, Thracians, Dalmatians, Frisians, &c., formed the military colonists of the stations in BRITAIN; and when even the emperors themselves were often not of Italian birth, and the most trusted officers and governors provincials or even barbarians, we have no reason to suppose that any notable proportion of genuine Roman blood found its way to this country..." - John Beddoe, "The Races of Britain", page 31.
"We find Thracians at Maglona (Machynlleth) and MOORS at Aballaba (Appleby); elsewhere Batavians, Dalmatians, Spaniards, and even SYRIAN and Taifalic cavalry..." - Robert Owen, "The Kymry: their origin, history, and international relations", page 68.
"We know that there was no homogenous body of soldiery in BRITAIN.The legions contained SYRIANS, CILICIANS, Spaniards, MOORS, Thracians, Dalmatians, Frisians, etc., and this fact seems to be a clear proof of the growing paucity of Roman citizens in Italy and the provinces." - Charles McLean Andrews, "The old English manor: a study in English economic history", page 35.
"In BRITAIN there were stationed troops from Belgium, Gaul, Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, Bavaria, Dacia, Macedonia, CILICIA, and Thrace; cohorts of boatmen from the TIGRIS, the Danube and the EUPHRATES; SYRIANS, Dalmatians, ARABS, and MOORS from the NORTH OF AFRICA." - James Charles Wall, "The first Christians of Britain", page 17.
whaT THE BRITS STILL THINK THEY Are BETTER THEN US? WHAt joke i haVE a Word for you... jews... rule you... our blaCK SKIN WAs more to do with jewish ABSORTION THEN MOORISH brits UPRISING HAs one naME: JEWS... JEWS THAt we expelled from spaIN And portugaL And then staRTED WEST INDIES COMPAnies, AND supported aND tOlD BRits aND DUTCH SECRETS NAvIGAtion, routes etc brits aRE JUST Gay WEAk PPL
England was referred to in literature & documentaries by the Spanish nobility as "an island of heretics" and it was also a religious crusade a few hundred years ago by the Catholic Spanish, who took more priests on board then trained, skilled sailors.
They didn't know how to fight back, many couldn't even swim and prayed to god for help instead. How backwards.
Just like the Spanish preferred to welcome native American Indians into their Catholic religion ... instead of killing them.
@XxXAngelOfPainXxX "Just like the Spanish preferred to welcome native American Indians into their Catholic religion ... instead of killing them. " unlike the Incas who they slaughter, wholesale.
@1212nuevo And it would not have made much of a difference if they had not been expelled either, as, contrary to what RedDeadRevolva seems to think, the majority of them were not even real "Moors" but natives who had converted to Islam:
@HunterOfDuIlards "moro" was / is an synonym for muslims as the word "turk" was for the ex-Byzantine terretory under Ottoman rule by the people in those areas who are / where christians
"The 1492 expulsion of Jews involved more than 90000 people, and that of the moriscos - the descendants of INDIGENOUS converts to Islam who were ETHNICALLY (but not culturally) INDISTINGUISHABLE from the Spanish population - involved roughly 310000 people in 1609 and 1610." - Massimo Livi Bacci, "The population of Europe: a history", Wiley-Blackwell, 2000. Page 119.
The English fleet"half the size of the Armarda"....That´s a load of crap to start with. It was larger than the Armarda...Tut, tut, English historians,fibbing again and hiding Spanish victories, like they don´t exist...
@LordRobinofKent "Moors"? LOL! Get a clue, simpleton. Too bad that in 1589 the Celt-Iberian Spaniards crushed the "bloody" Scandinavian-wannabe Celt-Iberian-Germanic English "Counter Armada" as well, and unlike the Spanish Armada, most of your loses were not due to the weather, but by getting your asses kicked, even by a woman (Maria Pita), LOL!
I will assume you are one of those Spanish brown skin savages.Spain is nothing but a dirty stinking pile of poop.We British ended your quaint little empire and build one of much more power and prestige.
@LordRobinofKent You ASSume incorrectly, if for nothing else than the fact that the only "brown" people in Spain are Gypsies and immigrants & their descendants, who are not the majority of the country (yet.)
Some of the most humiliating defeats in English history (ex: "Counter Armada", Cartagena de Indias) were at the hands of your Celt-Iberian cousins to the south. And your empire was largely built on piracy of other countries' empires.
@LordRobinofKent hahaha dont make urselfe redicolous ...u were lucky the weather did "crush" u were shitting in ur pants cause u knew when we land ur godless kingdom wud be disapear ! ..Blaz de Lazo crushed the larger English "Armada" in cartagena with a few thousand Spaniards!...and that without an Storm
Go get a wash you greasy brown savage.Last time i was in Spain all i could smell is your dirty underarm stench, there is something called under arm deodorant you Islamic Spaniards should have found out about this by now. Rubbish we own Spain's arse .
@LordRobinofKent why shud i take orders from a pig skinned weakling?...even ur wifes and daughters are dreaming about us ...maybe cause we dont act and look like gays like u..and to be honest i cant even see an difference between u or an slavic person ..so maybe u shud be becarefull when u try to play the raccist ...Spain was civilisized in times where ur ancestors still where shitting in the forrest...its funny that u belive u belong to something superior ...just look in to the mirrow weakling
I take it you are talking about your Moorish period?I am glad my ancestors were living in squalor while yours was living and mixing with the half negroid Moors under better conditions,because i rather not have the stigma Spain has today.Look at it's mixed race people not to mention how it turned out today, our British empire was more powerful,larger and prosperous than the Spanish one ever was.When people a think of Spain they think of your Moorish past and that is all.
@LordRobinofKent LOL! I am glad that you think that the "Moors" were "half Negroid", and that you hilariously equate contact with a military/religious minority with "massive race mixing", since ironically you Brits are the only Northern Europeans to have endured several centuries of "Moorish" (and Syrian, and Anatolian) presence as well, courtesy of the late Roman multi-ethnic armies that were sent to conquer Britain:
"The Notitia Imperii shows us that bodies of SYRIANS, CILICIANS, Spaniards, MOORS, Thracians, Dalmatians, Frisians, &c., formed the military colonists of the stations in BRITAIN; and when even the emperors themselves were often not of Italian birth, and the most trusted officers and governors provincials or even barbarians, we have no reason to suppose that any notable proportion of genuine Roman blood found its way to this country..." - John Beddoe, "The Races of Britain", page 31.
Yank, the DNA evidence does not back that up, you might want to talk to your amigo here he is sending me some sort of Afrocentric messages about white people and he is a Spaniard.Which by the looks here you are trying to claim Spaniards are white?
@LordRobinofKent Too bad the DNA evidence also doesn't back up your claims either. Spain is in fact the southern European country most genetically distant from North Africa and the Middle East (Simoni et al. 1999, Bosch et al. 2001, Dupanloup et al. 2004.) Spaniards always cluster with French, Swiss, northern Italians and, to a lesser extent, Britons in autosomal and STRUCTURE studies, not with North Africans or Middle Easterners (not even Italians or Greeks fully cluster with them.)
@LordRobinofKent I don't need to claim it, anyone with a pair of eyes can easily see that the native (i.e. non-Gypsy, non-immigrant derived) Spaniards are white. And a lot of them do not fit the "Iberian" stereotype either (who are white anyway, despite the darker phenotypes.)
@LordRobinofKent And contrary to what you claim, the Mediterranean types which are not uncommon in the British Isles, specially in the "Celtic" areas (Ireland, Wales, Scottish Highlands, western England), easily fit in Spain. Read the works of your own British anthropologists and ethnologists (Beddoe, Huxley, Thurnam, etc. even the Nordicist Waddell did not accept loads of Britons as "Nordic" but Iberian-types) who kept comparing them with the so-called dark types of Spaniards and French.
@LordRobinofKent lol No no even if a shitload of Spaniards are fairer than a shitload of brits. What are you some jack ass that confuses nationalized gypsies, south americans etc with the celtiberian race?
Or believes the pakis and mulattoes in the propaganda film "Eli the Golden Age" look like Spaniards???
In Spain no racial clasificaitons so non whites like pedro (canary islander), sergio ramos (gypsy) etc are not reminded of there lack of whiteness. In gb u put em in a racial box/category
@LordRobinofKent In skin pigmentation studies northern Spain comes out paler than South England: Jablonski, N.G. and Chaplin, G. (2000) The evolution of human skin coloration.
@LordRobinofKent ur complexe makes me smile ...reality is u are the decent of an barbarian ...and u show ur barbaric charackter verry well even when u try to hide it behind fake noble behavior ...and btw can u reconstruct ur bloodline? ...i can ... u wannabe ...ur wifes loves us ..do u think back in the days it was different? hahahaha
@LordRobinofKent as we are christians & we are an subject of god we convertet 50% of christians no metter where they come from ...also we allowed to stay the maurans who convertet to christianity ...meanwhile u just wiped out (or tried) the indigenious people who unfortunality felt under Barbaric ( british) rule ...as i told u before ...its not only that u cant seperate us from berber its also that u are fake in every thing u call urselfe...ur lack in faith and civilisation makes england fall
@LordRobinofKent Your precious England is being filled with hordes of Islamiic/Muzlems as I post this comment !! and they are mixing in with u Brits ..don't believe it?? look up Amir Khan he's a British Muzlem and he's open about it...believe it or not but he's the new face of Englands top boxer...look up Hammasa Kohistani while your at it a Muzlem Miss England beauty contestant...at least the Spanish fought back and their people have more pride. Mexicans alone will outnumber you Brits lol
@Paula1985p Sadly Paula we don't live in civilised times. I'm ashamed as a Brit that we invaded Iraq and 100 000 innocent Iraqi's died. Spain holds Ceuta and Melilla on the basis that Morroco didn't exist when these places were colonised, and that's exactly the same with the Falklands, Argentina didn't even exist when the U.K colonised them. In this civilised world we live in, why did the British try to sponsor a coup in Equitorial guinea with Spanish warships on hand? London and Madrid want oil
@Paula1985p This video celebrates a lucky English victory over the Spanish Armada. Had the Armada defeated the English, England would have become a Catholic, perhaps Spanish speaking part of the Spanish empire, much like the New World. Gibraltar is a remnant of that time when England, Holland, France and Spain were constantly fighting each other. Had you beaten us, would you be handing back to us, that which you had won in a war?
@Paula1985p Most Gibraltarian's are Genoese,Maltese,Portuguese,German,Shephardic Jews and North Africans whom have inhabited the Rock for 400 years. In the treaty of Utrecht it does state that Spain ceded Gibraltar in perpetuity. Some argue that Gibraltarians enjoy their tax haven status, ssome say they are very pro-Britain, perhaps it's a little of both. China would have taken Hong Kong by force had they wished, Spain and Britain have no interest in a war over Gibraltar, we are allies!
@Paula1985p London would happily hand Gibraltar back to Spain, but it can't happen whilst the massive majority of Gibraltarian's vote to remain British. A democratic country like the U.K cannot force British citizens to accept another nationality. It's the Gibraltarians right to self determination, and Gibraltar could take legal action against the U.K if repatriation to Spain was enforced. I agree though, relations between Spain and the U.K would be much better if Gib was Spanish.
PLEASE, EVERY BRITIAINS WHO READ THIS, Do you know who was BLAS DE LEZO? please study it, HE DEFEAT MORE THAN 250 ENGLISHSHIPS, AND ALL OF THEM FALL more ships than the spanish armada, you wanted to take spain 50 years later of the spanish armada, BUT YOUR HISTORY dont learnt you that
@artneversleep I've nothing against the Spanish either. I've heard the Cesar quote, it's a New Testament verse of Jesus', and even us Protestants read that book! ;-) Jorge, the problems start because both Spaniards and British are proud of their glorious histories, as well they should be. At least our debate didn't descend in to bad language and threats. If you really had wanted to win the debate, you should have mentioned Spanish football, and then I would have had to shut up! All the best.
@artneversleep Go on then list all the British atrocities. When did I say the British hadn't committed atrocities? Like most of your comments which are based on your assumptions of what you think I've written instead of what I actually wrote.
@cardensdriving "Spain would have been governed by Nazis" Once again false because that is not a fact that is something you cannot prove. Yes it's very sad to know how much people were killed during that time I am aware of that. What would they have done to me?well genius i wasn't born at the time but if I was i know I would do everything in my power to make sure his movemnt is destroyed, something you prohabley don't have the heart to do.
Who's truth? Yours! English is the language of business and 2nd most widely spoken, you may say arrogance,some might say factual. The conquistadors shot native people for sport according to your clergy Bartoleme de la Casas, maybe we learnt it from you. Wasn't Colombus Italian, my geography isn't very good. Where was Magellan from? western Spain? ;-) The Latin world might think that's the most important fact, us Angol Saxons don't
@artneversleep I can honestly say I've never heard an English anecdote about a Spanish victory, we are not interested. How's this for propaganda; We went on to establish the biggest empire the world has ever seen, much of it was being handed back as recently as 1970 and in the 15th century. English is second most widely spoken language in the world, it's generally accepted the the British invented nearly everything of real importance. These are facts, the surrealism we leave to Dali.
@artneversleep Lepanto was a battle fought for your own and the Venetians trading interests not to keep Islam out of the U.K. Of course we Protestants didn't fight in your Catholic war, why would we? In fact we sponsored Barbary pirates against you. We have been invaded for over a thousand years, and it's nothing to do with the Spanish, we've protected ourselves. Why are the Spanish always looking back 500 years ago for your glories?
You are very brave with your "Bullshit" comment. You wouldn't be saying it if we were toe to toe, believe me. I mentioned in my first post that Spain owes Britain and the Allies for fighting the Nazi's. Do you know that "allies" are the Russians, U.S, Canadians, Australians and everyone else who fought Hitler? The Russians beat the Germans at Stalingrad, in part because the Nazi's were also fighting the British in Africa.The Nazi forces were being stretched on two fronts. Do some research!
@cardensdriving Spain set the record straight centuries ago. You saying nonsense like "Spain owes Britian and the allies for fighting Nazis" thats just ignorance because the Spanish does not need to prove anything to Europe because they already did by discovering the new world.
@Jazzyjaxx55 Had the allies not fought and Hitler had won the war he planned to murder the Spanish head of the Catholic church and Franco and install his own Nazi's in their place. The Nazi's had no respect for those who wouldn't fight them, and they disliked any race that wasn't Nordic in origin. In other words, Spain would have been governed by the Nazi's, and given that they murdered 6 million Jews, countless gypsies, along with 120 million others, what might they have done to you?
@cardensdriving "He planned to murder the Spanish head of the catholic church and install his own Nazi's in there place" False, you cannot prove that is a fact unless hitler told you himself he was going to do that. "The Nazi's had no respect for those who wouldn't fight them"...false, because if that were true the Nazis would have invaded Italy or Austria instead of working with them.
@Jazzyjaxx55 Hitler was Austrian, so he was hardly going to murder his own German speaking, Aryan people, whom welcomed him in to their country anyway. With Mussolini and Franco also being fascists Hitler was happy for them to be in power until he had beaten the Russians and the rest of the Allies.There exists no documentary evidence that Hitler planned to murder Franco, but highly respected Nazi sources say that he discussed it, and that the Spanish were not Aryan, so what can we deduce?
@cardensdriving When Mussolini was in power it did not necessary mean the Italians supported his views which pretty much explains why he was murdered by his own people. The Spanish were not Aryan, if you mean they were not white? then your wrong. Spain till this day has many Spaniards with blonde hair and blue eyes because I personally seen them. Due to Spanish colonization you will see Spanish speakers come in all shades however it dont mean all of there ancestors trace back of Spanish origin.
@Richrmadrid28 I, in turn also understand your point of view, and know many Spaniards detested Franco, and fought bravely against him. I know the International brigade (Los Internancionales) comprised of around 35 000 volunteers from all around the world. To fair to the U.K, during Franco's early times the U.K was busy trying to arm itself against the threat they knew would come from the Nazi's. The U.K interfering in the politics of Spain at that time may not have been tolerated.
@cardensdriving lol....No,i´ve lived in the same area (Alicante) my whole life,the "invaders" came later :D,but no problem,the coast is very large :) Saludos!
@Ximena0e Wow Alicante, lucky you. I've visited many times with my Dad on business. We love the Esplanada, and beautiful Ayuntamiento and have often taken a stroll up to El Barrio. My wife likes Maisonnave, I don't like shopping though. I did enjoy watching Hercules play though, my wife didn't! The playas at San Juan and Carrabassi are also lovely. I love Chiperones with Lemon too. You are well blessed living there.
@cardensdriving Muchas gracias! i´m very glad you and your family enjoyed my town :).I´m from a small village very close ( about 2km) to the Carabassí beach,it´s a nice place surrounded by dunes and pine trees.You´re always welcome here.
@cardensdriving Hi, I realise that you probably don't want to give personal information out on Youtube, so please don't answer the question below. Anyhow, it's a nice place.
You know Spain exercised its jurisdiction and total control of the archipielago,those islands were under the effective control of the spanish authorities, even the Duke of Wellington recognized that the sovereignity of those islands never belonged to Britain.And Argentina inherited the Spanish rights.Yes,many dutch,french,german and spanish colonies are poor and?,yet the520poorest countries on earth are the British colonies, a great honor!
This historical account is full of a lot of rubbish. After the 1588 battle the Spanish Navy gradually gain the upper hand in the sea where they were able to win most of the sea battles and ship 3 times as much precious metals from the new world despite English attempts to seize them. When the peace treaty of 1604 was signed during the reign of King James I, England gained nothing and Spain continued to dominate the seas.
The Armada of 1588 is the biggest false story ever told in the English language. During the 19 year war, the Spanish Navy gradually gained the upper hand to the point that Elizabeth's successor, James I sued for peace and signed the treaty of 1604 which was mostly on Spanish terms. In other words, the Spanish won the war.
La historia inglesa está completamente tergiversada. No se puede llamar a esta batalla 'victoria inglesa'. La tormenta destrozó casi cuarenta barcos de la Armada Española, la armada fue derrotada por culpa de eso, no ha causa de la armada inglesa.
English history is completely distorted. You can not call this battle "English victory." The storm destroyed nearly forty ships of the Spanish Armada, the fleet was defeated because of that, not because of the British navy.
The Spanish ships were larger than those of the English and were thus 'greener'. When it came to transporting pack animals to support an invasion the Spanish ships could get more mules to the galleon.
Y si hubiera ganado.Al imponer el catolicismo,gales e inglaterra se hubieran rebelado en una guerra parecida a la de los holandeses,la guerra de los 30 años se hubiera producido igual y despues de ser derrotada españa,inglaterra hubiera recuperado su independencia.En ningun caso (victoria o derrota) la cosa cambia.
la armada no cambio la historia.España siguio siendo la primera potencia mundial hasta 1659 y en el mar hasta 1639.Los inglese perdieron la guerra en 1604 (el tratado de londres fue mas favorable a españa) y no se convirtieron en un imperio hasta la guerra de los 7 años.
All I can say is that still don't get it how in thr 21st century still England is trying to manège an imperial status ? They should leave Gibraltar and the falkland islands
@Spaniard781 The Spanish ceded Gibraltar "in perpetuity" to the English, as documented in the treaty of Utrecht. You signed the contract, does your word me nothing?
The Falklands or Las Malvinas were originally settled by sailors from St.Malo in Bretagne. Las Malvinas is a corruption of Les Malouins i.e the people of St.Malo. Here's a suggestion; England can give the Falklands back to Argentina, and they can give them back to the people of St.Malo. Would that satisfy your logic?
@cardensdriving Spain ceded the property of Gibraltar,not the sovereignity.And btw Ceuta and Melilla are Spanish cities since even before the existence of Morocco as a State and unlike Gibraltar,none of them are or have ever been in the UN decolonization list.
@Ximena0e Do you believe in peoples democratic right to self determination? Gibraltarian's want to remain British, Falklanders the same and the Northern Irish too. Gibratarian's don't want to be part of Spain, Falklanders don't want to part of Argentina and the majority of the Northern Irish don't want to be part of the Republic of Ireland. It's not like we are forcing them to be colonies, they want to be!
Does Spain afford the Catalans the right to self determination?
@cardensdriving What a way to twist things!.A while ago you were complaining about my country acting in an imperialist manner when the reality is that has zero colonies.Do u remember?.You even said that Spain should give back these Spanish cities to Morocco,so even if they were colonies with that comment u already admitted that u don´t believe in the people´s right to self-determination,except,of courseee,in the case of the 10 british colonies, how convenient....;)
@cardensdriving UK,on the contrary, is the only country in the world that in the 21st century still have 10 colonies on that list,unbelievable isn´t it?..especially if we bear in mind that this list contains only 16 territories....and yet u have the balls to accuse Spain of acting in an imperialist manner lol
@Spaniard781 Ceuta and Melia? Why in the 21st century does Spain still try to act in an imperial manner? They should hand back Ceuta and Melia. I'm sure the Morrocans would appreciate them back.
Sometimes, the facts are inconvenient, in this case, especially to your argument.
@Spaniard781 Yours is the most popular comment. So i thought I'd remind you and all your followers of a few facts; The population of Gibraltar have voted many times to be British and not Spanish, and the Falklanders have also voted overwhelmingly to be British and not Argentinian. This my friend is called democracy, you may have heard of it, it you live in one. The people of Ceuta and Melilla want to be Spanish and not Morrocan, it's the same thing, unlike the Basques that don't.
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@Komnenit,Lets forget 1558/1741 for educational purposes,Is The Isle of Wight A Spanish Dominion or Is Gibraltar A British Dominion?
urbankhat65 1 week ago
@Komnenit,Lets forget 1558/1741 for educational purposes,Is The Isle of Wight A Spanish Dominion or Is Gibraltar A British Dominion?
urbankhat65 1 week ago
1588,Happy days:).
urbankhat65 2 months ago
@urbankhat65 1741; even happier :)
Komnenit 1 week ago
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Figures: Spanish armada 1588 vs English armada 1589:
Spanish armada- 1.800 spanish causalities& 5 ships sunk (just considering causalities by english weapons).
English armada- 13.000 english dead or captured+ other 5.000 english desertors+30 ships sunk or captured (just considering causalities by Spanish weapons).
LOOOOL compare! and remember that the anglo-spanish war of 1585-1604 was a spanish victory.
belac0r92 2 months ago
Everyone, please look:
Battle of Cartagena de Indias 1741.
Don Blas de Lezo.
That's all I have to say.
Komnenit 2 months ago
@Komnenit Everyone please Look at
Battle of Trafalgar
Owned
All i have to say
alekzander2010 1 week ago
@alekzander2010 Please compare Cartagena de Indias(largest english fleet in history) with Trafalgar (medium sized spanish navy).
OWNED.
That' all. xoxo
Komnenit 1 week ago
@Komnenit Medium sized spanish fleet +PLUS+ the FRENCH Navy (that was the storngest navy in the world at the time) PLUS the Brits were outnumbered in Trafalgar and lost NO ships (if they did it was only 1) plus the brits captured 20 ships
OWNED
bye bye old chap
alekzander2010 1 week ago
@alekzander2010 RIGHT. Now lets move to a real battle. SPAIN vs ENGLAND. 6 spanish ships, 3000 soldiers and 600 indian archers ALMOST ANNIHILATED 28.000 English soldiers, 186 SHIPS!!! (LARGEST FLEET EVER GATHERED UNTIL D-DAY) And 4000 recruits from Virginia. You can't EVEN COMPARE Cartagena de Indias with Trafalgar. YOU JUST CAN'T. Please type 'battle of Cartagena de Indias' in wikipedia, just to appreciate a REAL outstanding victory.
Tu nación de piratas da risa. Malvinas argentinas btw.
Komnenit 1 week ago
@alekzander2010 You are comparing a battle in which England fought with 31 ships against 33 spanish and french ships...you just can even compare with cartagena de Indias....186 English ships and 28K men defeated by 3k spaniards and 6 ships LOL at England.
You always tend to manipulate history to your advantage, always minimizing others victories and glorifying yours, even though they aren't as great as the ones of Spain or France. GB: A nation based on piracy, imperialism and genocide
Komnenit 1 week ago
@Komnenit yea sure now if you dont mind am still reading about a few brit ships defeating 130 spanish ships.....
alekzander2010 1 week ago
@alekzander2010 Few brits? Dont make me laugh! You meant BAD WEATHER and dutch rebels? Oh yes, that was what you meant.
The armada invencible of 1588 was followed by an english retaliate to the iberic peninsula in 1589, which resulted in a complete spanish victory. Face it, your country over-values some insignificant defeats and try to ERRASE its humilliating DEFEATS...1589, 1741...and the list just goes on and on...
MALVINAS ARGENTINAS, GIBRALTAR ESPAÑOL. Get out of Argentina and Spain!
Komnenit 1 week ago
@alekzander2010 insignificant victories*
You should be grateful to the dutch and the weather or else, you would be speaking spanish
Komnenit 1 week ago
@Komnenit you know you retreated to the storm? because the brits scared you and you decided it wa sbetter being killed by weather then britain
alekzander2010 1 week ago
@alekzander2010 Dude..3000 spaniard soldiers and 600 indian archers can beat the greatest british fleet ever assembled of 186 ships and can pwn 28K british soldiers...
You have run out of arguments which only shows that you accept that the victories your country over-values are insignificant compared to spanish or french militar history which is FULL of glorious, TRUE victories. Cartagena de Indias, Contraarmada, Austerlitz, Navas de Tolosa. Show me a british Lepanto or St Quentin LOL
Komnenit 1 week ago
@Komnenit its funny cause you ONLY mention Cartagena de indias
Britain IS FULL FULL OVERFLOWED with GLORIOUS Victories
The UK WON! accept it lol the UK Beat france AND Spain combined!
plus one of the greatest battles of Hisotry is Rokes Drift
100 Brit men vs Over 4,000 zulu´s and only 15 british wounded and over 500 zulu dead (and the zulus had british made rifles)
also correct me if am wrong but the spanish navy Never manged to kill Sir drake himself could they?
Spain is nothing but a joke
alekzander2010 1 week ago
the duke of parma hated the whole idea of the armada and leaving the low countries to go to england, he wanted to stay in the low countries and expand on he didn't want to go to england.
shauntheassassin 2 months ago
It was very unlikley that the spanish armada would succeed because the Duke of Parma had written off the whole campaign before the armada even set sail and the armada made was doomed from the start they didn't bring no transport ships so they wouldn't be able to pick up parma's army from the low countries and move them to england and the Duke of Parma whole hated the whole idea of the spanish armada,Parma wanted to stay and expand on in the low countries he didn't like the idea going to england.
shauntheassassin 2 months ago
@shauntheassassin The Spanish Army in the Netherlands, had their own troops barges. The Armada's job was to escort these barges across the channel to England.
MrPilchardo 2 months ago
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Whose side is God on, he can't decide? no ones ? Phillip II thought God would be on his side but the Armada failed.The repulse of Spanish naval might gave heart to the Protestant cause across Europe, and the belief that God was behind Protestant cause was shown by striking of commemorative medals that bore the inscription," He blew with His winds, and they were scattered". But the U.S. in 1776 thought God was with Washington against Britain. Everyone claims God's on their side.
zytigon 3 months ago
when the armada was caught in the first storms at corunna on 19th of june then after they were repaired and then set sail for second time in july 21st-22nd and then after armada set sailing for the 2nd time I wish that another storm near brittany had happand and this time the armada crashed into brittany and the armada was destroyed completely and washed away into the sea and the the spanish was stranded in brittany for good, that is what should of happand, but I wished the armada never happand
shauntheassassin 3 months ago
England in its history a Spanish ship sunk
fran15vcf 3 months ago
Duke of Parma hated the idea of the spanish armada he wanted to stay in the low countries and not go to england and expand on but he couldn't because of a nother foolish decision in madrid, spanish armada was very unlikely to succeed because Duke of Parma had written off the whole campaign before the armada even set sail, and before the Spanish Armada set sail Medina Sidonia urged Philip to make peace but Philip didn't liston to him, this was Philip plan but Sidonia and Parma hated it.
shauntheassassin 3 months ago
Duke of Parma hated the spanish armada idea because he wanted to stay in the low countries, and not go to england and if parma was ready there would of been 5 probloms 1st they didn't bring no transport ships 2ed they would have to defeated the english fleet first and 3rd how would parma army be able to cross to the armada without the dutch fleet seeing them and attacking them if they were spooted the dutch would kill them all of parma's army 4th bad weather 5th shallow water for two miles out.
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shauntheassassin 3 months ago
VIVA ESPANA!!
aguichris 3 months ago
spanish armada was doomed from the start because they didn't bring transport ships to pick up parma's army, but parma had written the whole campaign off before the spanish armada set sail, parma hated the idea of the spanish armada plan, parma wanted to stay inthe neverlands and he didn't want to go to england.
shauntheassassin 4 months ago
duke of parma didn't bother getting his army ready because he hated the idea of the spanish armada, and he wanted to stay in the neverlands, not go to england and the duke of parma didn't like his army put on short rations and lost more than a third of its manpower, duke of parma wished to stay in the neverlands and expand on not go to england , but he couldn't because another foolish decision in madrid.
shauntheassassin 4 months ago
And remember that the anglo-spanish war of (1585-1604) was an spanish victory xdxd
Trade of London (1604) = TOTAL ENGLISH HUMILLATION
belac0r92 4 months ago
@belac0r92 You should be thankful that we helped liberate your country from your 'allies', the French, during the Peninsular War. Just remember that next time please
aspiringdrummer17 4 months ago
@aspiringdrummer17
yes, but it is a pity that the important battles of the peninsula war were won by us: Battle of Bailen, Battle of Saragossa, battle of Girona, Battle of Cádiz and of course the 2nd rebolution in Madrid.
ENGLISH? complettly useless. You manly helped to the portuguese.
belac0r92 4 months ago
@belac0r92 The battle of Salamanca, battle of vitoria, seige of san sebastian. All important battles that helped to throw the French out of Spain. Say what you like but you couldn't have done it without us and the Portuguese.
aspiringdrummer17 4 months ago
@belac0r92 If the Spanish had managed to successfully invaded England, it would have turned into a nuisance for them just like the Peninsular War did with the French. After all there were no riches to be had in England like there were in South America. Spain was much better off concentrating on there as they did afterwards
aspiringdrummer17 4 months ago
@aspiringdrummer17
If Spain had successfully invaded England, would probably not have happened, just another country would be governed by the rule of the Habsburgs.
A good example is the Belgian or the Neapolitans, It were European countries who liked being ruled by the spanish king.
And the queen Elizabeth I was not much popular in all GB. And problably were many english who prefered being ruled by an HAsburg (a very prestigious European dynasty).
belac0r92 4 months ago
english armada of 1589 (13.000 deads, and 5.000 captured!!)
English armada battle of cartagena the indias (11.000 deads and 40 ships sunk or capturet)
OOOUUUCH!!!!
rule Hispania, Hispania rule the waves!!!
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English put a candle to God for having given bad weather and storms will pryecto channel during the invasion, because if not today speak Spanish. On ships that transport vast majority traveling in the best infantry the moment along with that came from Flanders had swept the British a few weeks. England had a strong professional army, and Spanish troops were hardened from years of war in Europe
egagu1976 5 months ago
The english had 197 smaller ships and the spanish armada 130 big ships,
the english had 55 ships situated in plymouth, and 142 ship situated at the downs,
I'v heard that if the english had 32 ship we would still have won.
shauntheassassin 5 months ago
medina sidonia didn't like the idear of the spanish armada he urged philip ii of spain
to make peace with england but philip did not liston to him.
medina sidonia and the duke of parma didn't like the idear of invading england.
shauntheassassin 5 months ago
the duke of parma did not like the sound of the spanish armada thats why he didn't
show and embarkation his troops at dunkirk, and parma was two weeks away, but if parma was ready at dunkirk another problem would of arose how did parma army get across with out the dutch fleet seeing them and attacking them if the dutch spotted them the dutch would kill all of parma's army and the the armada would have been a complete waste of time and it would of failed,
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Actually, Starkey isn't quite right about the hellburners. The latter were highly sophisticated floating bombs and there was no secret about them as they had been used at the siege of Antwerp in 1585. The fireships used against the Spanish Armada at Calais roads were just that, vessels packed with anything that would burn but little in the way of explosives. However, the Spanish thought that they were hellburners, which is why they legged it fast.
oarfrost 6 months ago
@portmanfan2 And a lot of money too...
FishBrothersReturns 8 months ago
@FishBrothersReturns I mean : lost a lot of money
FishBrothersReturns 8 months ago
pity spanish armada did not crash into brittany, and got destroyed, not be able to rebuild the armada because the armada should have got washed away . that's what should of happened.
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Haha, the spanish were fucked by the arabs, then the english, damn this spaniards are a disgrace to europe.
TheMunyiri 9 months ago
@TheMunyiri In other words: you are a clown trying to be a smartass and babbling about things you have no clue about. Stop trying to learn history from True Romance and Afrocentric RAP songs and actually learn from real books and historians who specialize in such subjects.
HunterofDolts 9 months ago
Spanish are semetic coz the arabs fucked them in 710 when the moors conquered them, the fucking world knows that, in italy only the northern part is white, those in the south are also semetic, this is due to hannibal army invasion of italy, hannibal army was a mixture of arabs and african, they stayed in italy for 15 years, so you can imagine the results, so in other words spanish are not white, in europe the english, irish, german and the french are considered the white race.
TheMunyiri 9 months ago
@TheMunyiri Too bad for your ignorant delusions that: 1- Your precious "Moors" did not even make up 5% of the population of the Iberian Peninsula, the bulk of Muslims there were just native converts to Islam (consult, for example, professor Richard Hitchcock, "Mozarabs in medieval and early modern Spain", 2008, page 2.)
HunterofDolts 9 months ago
2- The armies of Hannibal in fact entered Italy through the north, via southern France, thus that would make them also "nonwhite" according to your silly "military invasion = massive race mixing" theories. 3- Hannibal's armies were in fact mostly made up of his Iberian and Celtic allies, not Carthaginians:
HunterofDolts 9 months ago
"Carthaginian armies were mercenary armies, and their commanders did not possess the advantage of, say, Roman generals, whose troops were motivated by national pride and patriotism. More often than not, Hamilcar's armies, and later Hannibal's, contained only a minority of Carthaginians, the rest being tribal levies recruited during the campaign itself." R. A. Gabriel, "Great captains of antiquity", 2001. Page 116.
HunterofDolts 9 months ago
"Hannibal's army included Celtiberians and Lusitanians, peoples of Celtic origin who inhabited the northern half of the peninsula. The majority of Hannibal's troops would, however, have been Iberians proper, from the southern half of the peninsula." - Gregory Daly, "Cannae: the experience of battle in the Second Punic War", 2003. Page 95.
HunterofDolts 9 months ago
4- Contrary to your idiotic claims, Spaniards are indeed white (if they weren't, then needless to say northern Italians wouldn't be either), and in fact the southern Europeans most genetically distant from North Africans & Middle Easterners. 5- French & Britons are in fact related to Iberians since remote times (a lot of Brits & Irish look nothing like Scandinavians and can easily pass in France & Spain; this was even pointed out many times by British anthropologists and ethnologists themselves.
HunterofDolts 9 months ago
6- Following your clueless ideas about history, we would have to also conclude that Brits are not "white" either, since thanks to the late Roman multi-ethnic armies that conquered Britain they are the only northern Europeans to have ever endured several centuries of "Moorish" (and Syrian, Arab and Anatolian) presence:
HunterofDolts 9 months ago
"The Notitia Imperii shows us that bodies of SYRIANS, CILICIANS, Spaniards, MOORS, Thracians, Dalmatians, Frisians, &c., formed the military colonists of the stations in BRITAIN; and when even the emperors themselves were often not of Italian birth, and the most trusted officers and governors provincials or even barbarians, we have no reason to suppose that any notable proportion of genuine Roman blood found its way to this country..." - John Beddoe, "The Races of Britain", page 31.
HunterofDolts 9 months ago
"We find Thracians at Maglona (Machynlleth) and MOORS at Aballaba (Appleby); elsewhere Batavians, Dalmatians, Spaniards, and even SYRIAN and Taifalic cavalry..." - Robert Owen, "The Kymry: their origin, history, and international relations", page 68.
HunterofDolts 9 months ago
"We know that there was no homogenous body of soldiery in BRITAIN.The legions contained SYRIANS, CILICIANS, Spaniards, MOORS, Thracians, Dalmatians, Frisians, etc., and this fact seems to be a clear proof of the growing paucity of Roman citizens in Italy and the provinces." - Charles McLean Andrews, "The old English manor: a study in English economic history", page 35.
HunterofDolts 9 months ago
"In BRITAIN there were stationed troops from Belgium, Gaul, Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, Bavaria, Dacia, Macedonia, CILICIA, and Thrace; cohorts of boatmen from the TIGRIS, the Danube and the EUPHRATES; SYRIANS, Dalmatians, ARABS, and MOORS from the NORTH OF AFRICA." - James Charles Wall, "The first Christians of Britain", page 17.
HunterofDolts 9 months ago
@portmanfan2 FFS That's what I said!
UK5098 9 months ago
Lots of bad losers posting on here, LOL.
UK5098 9 months ago
YOUR LUCK IS THAt PORTUGAl Had only one million ppl aT THE TIME And until eighteen century OR ELSE YOU All be taLKING PORTUGUESE BY NOW
badsign1980 9 months ago
whaT THE BRITS STILL THINK THEY Are BETTER THEN US? WHAt joke i haVE a Word for you... jews... rule you... our blaCK SKIN WAs more to do with jewish ABSORTION THEN MOORISH brits UPRISING HAs one naME: JEWS... JEWS THAt we expelled from spaIN And portugaL And then staRTED WEST INDIES COMPAnies, AND supported aND tOlD BRits aND DUTCH SECRETS NAvIGAtion, routes etc brits aRE JUST Gay WEAk PPL
badsign1980 9 months ago
@badsign1980 lEARn hOw to speLL bEFoRE yOU ARgue aND shouT LIKe A RACIST BASTERD!
oh and Brits are gay weak people HAHAHAHA-ha...ha lol
The UK had the biggest empire ever known to man plus we beat Spain in 1588
AND beat Spain AGAIN+The FRENCH at TRAFALGAR also if am not mistaken your puny ass country is having some problems right now isnt it?
alekzander2010 1 week ago
England was referred to in literature & documentaries by the Spanish nobility as "an island of heretics" and it was also a religious crusade a few hundred years ago by the Catholic Spanish, who took more priests on board then trained, skilled sailors.
They didn't know how to fight back, many couldn't even swim and prayed to god for help instead. How backwards.
Just like the Spanish preferred to welcome native American Indians into their Catholic religion ... instead of killing them.
XxXAngelOfPainXxX 10 months ago
@XxXAngelOfPainXxX "Just like the Spanish preferred to welcome native American Indians into their Catholic religion ... instead of killing them. " unlike the Incas who they slaughter, wholesale.
UK5098 9 months ago
The beacon lighting to notify the rest of England was a clever communication system the English used.
XxXAngelOfPainXxX 10 months ago
@RedDeadRevolva Christians of moorish origins (moriscos) were expelled (fortunately) in 1609.
1212nuevo 11 months ago
@1212nuevo And it would not have made much of a difference if they had not been expelled either, as, contrary to what RedDeadRevolva seems to think, the majority of them were not even real "Moors" but natives who had converted to Islam:
HunterOfDuIlards 11 months ago
@HunterOfDuIlards "moro" was / is an synonym for muslims as the word "turk" was for the ex-Byzantine terretory under Ottoman rule by the people in those areas who are / where christians
RedDeadRevolva 11 months ago
"The 1492 expulsion of Jews involved more than 90000 people, and that of the moriscos - the descendants of INDIGENOUS converts to Islam who were ETHNICALLY (but not culturally) INDISTINGUISHABLE from the Spanish population - involved roughly 310000 people in 1609 and 1610." - Massimo Livi Bacci, "The population of Europe: a history", Wiley-Blackwell, 2000. Page 119.
HunterOfDuIlards 11 months ago
The English fleet"half the size of the Armarda"....That´s a load of crap to start with. It was larger than the Armarda...Tut, tut, English historians,fibbing again and hiding Spanish victories, like they don´t exist...
Makes one want to throw up. Lies, lies, lies.
xspjustice55 11 months ago
All hail the Kingdom of Spain!!! Long live the king!!!
TopAce777 11 months ago
Yes!We crushed those bloody Moors.
LordRobinofKent 11 months ago
@LordRobinofKent "Moors"? LOL! Get a clue, simpleton. Too bad that in 1589 the Celt-Iberian Spaniards crushed the "bloody" Scandinavian-wannabe Celt-Iberian-Germanic English "Counter Armada" as well, and unlike the Spanish Armada, most of your loses were not due to the weather, but by getting your asses kicked, even by a woman (Maria Pita), LOL!
HunterOfDuIlards 11 months ago 16
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I will assume you are one of those Spanish brown skin savages.Spain is nothing but a dirty stinking pile of poop.We British ended your quaint little empire and build one of much more power and prestige.
LordRobinofKent 11 months ago
@LordRobinofKent You ASSume incorrectly, if for nothing else than the fact that the only "brown" people in Spain are Gypsies and immigrants & their descendants, who are not the majority of the country (yet.)
Some of the most humiliating defeats in English history (ex: "Counter Armada", Cartagena de Indias) were at the hands of your Celt-Iberian cousins to the south. And your empire was largely built on piracy of other countries' empires.
HunterOfDuIlards 11 months ago 3
@LordRobinofKent Really? OK whatever you say brit...
TopAce777 11 months ago
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RedDeadRevolva 11 months ago
@LordRobinofKent hahaha dont make urselfe redicolous ...u were lucky the weather did "crush" u were shitting in ur pants cause u knew when we land ur godless kingdom wud be disapear ! ..Blaz de Lazo crushed the larger English "Armada" in cartagena with a few thousand Spaniards!...and that without an Storm
RedDeadRevolva 11 months ago 12
@RedDeadRevolva
Go get a wash you greasy brown savage.Last time i was in Spain all i could smell is your dirty underarm stench, there is something called under arm deodorant you Islamic Spaniards should have found out about this by now. Rubbish we own Spain's arse .
LordRobinofKent 11 months ago
@LordRobinofKent why shud i take orders from a pig skinned weakling?...even ur wifes and daughters are dreaming about us ...maybe cause we dont act and look like gays like u..and to be honest i cant even see an difference between u or an slavic person ..so maybe u shud be becarefull when u try to play the raccist ...Spain was civilisized in times where ur ancestors still where shitting in the forrest...its funny that u belive u belong to something superior ...just look in to the mirrow weakling
RedDeadRevolva 11 months ago
@RedDeadRevolva
I take it you are talking about your Moorish period?I am glad my ancestors were living in squalor while yours was living and mixing with the half negroid Moors under better conditions,because i rather not have the stigma Spain has today.Look at it's mixed race people not to mention how it turned out today, our British empire was more powerful,larger and prosperous than the Spanish one ever was.When people a think of Spain they think of your Moorish past and that is all.
LordRobinofKent 11 months ago
@LordRobinofKent LOL! I am glad that you think that the "Moors" were "half Negroid", and that you hilariously equate contact with a military/religious minority with "massive race mixing", since ironically you Brits are the only Northern Europeans to have endured several centuries of "Moorish" (and Syrian, and Anatolian) presence as well, courtesy of the late Roman multi-ethnic armies that were sent to conquer Britain:
HunterOfDuIlards 11 months ago
"The Notitia Imperii shows us that bodies of SYRIANS, CILICIANS, Spaniards, MOORS, Thracians, Dalmatians, Frisians, &c., formed the military colonists of the stations in BRITAIN; and when even the emperors themselves were often not of Italian birth, and the most trusted officers and governors provincials or even barbarians, we have no reason to suppose that any notable proportion of genuine Roman blood found its way to this country..." - John Beddoe, "The Races of Britain", page 31.
HunterOfDuIlards 11 months ago
@LordRobinofKent Which might explain why the majority of you do not look like real Nordics, like the Scandinavians, LOL! Get a clue, ignoramus.
HunterOfDuIlards 11 months ago
@HunterOfDuIlards
Yank, the DNA evidence does not back that up, you might want to talk to your amigo here he is sending me some sort of Afrocentric messages about white people and he is a Spaniard.Which by the looks here you are trying to claim Spaniards are white?
LordRobinofKent 11 months ago
@LordRobinofKent Too bad the DNA evidence also doesn't back up your claims either. Spain is in fact the southern European country most genetically distant from North Africa and the Middle East (Simoni et al. 1999, Bosch et al. 2001, Dupanloup et al. 2004.) Spaniards always cluster with French, Swiss, northern Italians and, to a lesser extent, Britons in autosomal and STRUCTURE studies, not with North Africans or Middle Easterners (not even Italians or Greeks fully cluster with them.)
HunterOfDuIlards 11 months ago
@LordRobinofKent I don't need to claim it, anyone with a pair of eyes can easily see that the native (i.e. non-Gypsy, non-immigrant derived) Spaniards are white. And a lot of them do not fit the "Iberian" stereotype either (who are white anyway, despite the darker phenotypes.)
HunterOfDuIlards 11 months ago
@LordRobinofKent And contrary to what you claim, the Mediterranean types which are not uncommon in the British Isles, specially in the "Celtic" areas (Ireland, Wales, Scottish Highlands, western England), easily fit in Spain. Read the works of your own British anthropologists and ethnologists (Beddoe, Huxley, Thurnam, etc. even the Nordicist Waddell did not accept loads of Britons as "Nordic" but Iberian-types) who kept comparing them with the so-called dark types of Spaniards and French.
HunterOfDuIlards 11 months ago
@LordRobinofKent lol No no even if a shitload of Spaniards are fairer than a shitload of brits. What are you some jack ass that confuses nationalized gypsies, south americans etc with the celtiberian race?
Or believes the pakis and mulattoes in the propaganda film "Eli the Golden Age" look like Spaniards???
In Spain no racial clasificaitons so non whites like pedro (canary islander), sergio ramos (gypsy) etc are not reminded of there lack of whiteness. In gb u put em in a racial box/category
1212nuevo 11 months ago
@1212nuevo *their lack...
1212nuevo 11 months ago
@LordRobinofKent In skin pigmentation studies northern Spain comes out paler than South England: Jablonski, N.G. and Chaplin, G. (2000) The evolution of human skin coloration.
English you are truly pathetic pathetic
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RedDeadRevolva 11 months ago
@LordRobinofKent ur complexe makes me smile ...reality is u are the decent of an barbarian ...and u show ur barbaric charackter verry well even when u try to hide it behind fake noble behavior ...and btw can u reconstruct ur bloodline? ...i can ... u wannabe ...ur wifes loves us ..do u think back in the days it was different? hahahaha
RedDeadRevolva 11 months ago
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I am sure you can trace your roots back to the the local Moorish whore and bastard in Spain to around the year 921 A.D.
LordRobinofKent 11 months ago
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RedDeadRevolva 11 months ago
@LordRobinofKent as we are christians & we are an subject of god we convertet 50% of christians no metter where they come from ...also we allowed to stay the maurans who convertet to christianity ...meanwhile u just wiped out (or tried) the indigenious people who unfortunality felt under Barbaric ( british) rule ...as i told u before ...its not only that u cant seperate us from berber its also that u are fake in every thing u call urselfe...ur lack in faith and civilisation makes england fall
RedDeadRevolva 11 months ago
@LordRobinofKent Your precious England is being filled with hordes of Islamiic/Muzlems as I post this comment !! and they are mixing in with u Brits ..don't believe it?? look up Amir Khan he's a British Muzlem and he's open about it...believe it or not but he's the new face of Englands top boxer...look up Hammasa Kohistani while your at it a Muzlem Miss England beauty contestant...at least the Spanish fought back and their people have more pride. Mexicans alone will outnumber you Brits lol
Jazzyjaxx55 9 months ago
@Paula1985p Sadly Paula we don't live in civilised times. I'm ashamed as a Brit that we invaded Iraq and 100 000 innocent Iraqi's died. Spain holds Ceuta and Melilla on the basis that Morroco didn't exist when these places were colonised, and that's exactly the same with the Falklands, Argentina didn't even exist when the U.K colonised them. In this civilised world we live in, why did the British try to sponsor a coup in Equitorial guinea with Spanish warships on hand? London and Madrid want oil
cardensdriving 1 year ago
@Paula1985p This video celebrates a lucky English victory over the Spanish Armada. Had the Armada defeated the English, England would have become a Catholic, perhaps Spanish speaking part of the Spanish empire, much like the New World. Gibraltar is a remnant of that time when England, Holland, France and Spain were constantly fighting each other. Had you beaten us, would you be handing back to us, that which you had won in a war?
cardensdriving 1 year ago
@Paula1985p Most Gibraltarian's are Genoese,Maltese,Portuguese,German,Shephardic Jews and North Africans whom have inhabited the Rock for 400 years. In the treaty of Utrecht it does state that Spain ceded Gibraltar in perpetuity. Some argue that Gibraltarians enjoy their tax haven status, ssome say they are very pro-Britain, perhaps it's a little of both. China would have taken Hong Kong by force had they wished, Spain and Britain have no interest in a war over Gibraltar, we are allies!
cardensdriving 1 year ago
@Paula1985p London would happily hand Gibraltar back to Spain, but it can't happen whilst the massive majority of Gibraltarian's vote to remain British. A democratic country like the U.K cannot force British citizens to accept another nationality. It's the Gibraltarians right to self determination, and Gibraltar could take legal action against the U.K if repatriation to Spain was enforced. I agree though, relations between Spain and the U.K would be much better if Gib was Spanish.
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cardensdriving 1 year ago
All the Spanish on here crying about the evil pirate English. Just who was trying to take over which country exactly..??
JollyRodders 1 year ago
PLEASE, EVERY BRITIAINS WHO READ THIS, Do you know who was BLAS DE LEZO? please study it, HE DEFEAT MORE THAN 250 ENGLISHSHIPS, AND ALL OF THEM FALL more ships than the spanish armada, you wanted to take spain 50 years later of the spanish armada, BUT YOUR HISTORY dont learnt you that
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yasmincs1 1 year ago
@artneversleep I've nothing against the Spanish either. I've heard the Cesar quote, it's a New Testament verse of Jesus', and even us Protestants read that book! ;-) Jorge, the problems start because both Spaniards and British are proud of their glorious histories, as well they should be. At least our debate didn't descend in to bad language and threats. If you really had wanted to win the debate, you should have mentioned Spanish football, and then I would have had to shut up! All the best.
cardensdriving 1 year ago
@artneversleep Go on then list all the British atrocities. When did I say the British hadn't committed atrocities? Like most of your comments which are based on your assumptions of what you think I've written instead of what I actually wrote.
cardensdriving 1 year ago
@cardensdriving "Spain would have been governed by Nazis" Once again false because that is not a fact that is something you cannot prove. Yes it's very sad to know how much people were killed during that time I am aware of that. What would they have done to me?well genius i wasn't born at the time but if I was i know I would do everything in my power to make sure his movemnt is destroyed, something you prohabley don't have the heart to do.
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cardensdriving 1 year ago
Who's truth? Yours! English is the language of business and 2nd most widely spoken, you may say arrogance,some might say factual. The conquistadors shot native people for sport according to your clergy Bartoleme de la Casas, maybe we learnt it from you. Wasn't Colombus Italian, my geography isn't very good. Where was Magellan from? western Spain? ;-) The Latin world might think that's the most important fact, us Angol Saxons don't
cardensdriving 1 year ago
@artneversleep I can honestly say I've never heard an English anecdote about a Spanish victory, we are not interested. How's this for propaganda; We went on to establish the biggest empire the world has ever seen, much of it was being handed back as recently as 1970 and in the 15th century. English is second most widely spoken language in the world, it's generally accepted the the British invented nearly everything of real importance. These are facts, the surrealism we leave to Dali.
cardensdriving 1 year ago
@cardensdriving Not, should be in there before 15th century.
cardensdriving 1 year ago
@artneversleep Lepanto was a battle fought for your own and the Venetians trading interests not to keep Islam out of the U.K. Of course we Protestants didn't fight in your Catholic war, why would we? In fact we sponsored Barbary pirates against you. We have been invaded for over a thousand years, and it's nothing to do with the Spanish, we've protected ourselves. Why are the Spanish always looking back 500 years ago for your glories?
cardensdriving 1 year ago
You are very brave with your "Bullshit" comment. You wouldn't be saying it if we were toe to toe, believe me. I mentioned in my first post that Spain owes Britain and the Allies for fighting the Nazi's. Do you know that "allies" are the Russians, U.S, Canadians, Australians and everyone else who fought Hitler? The Russians beat the Germans at Stalingrad, in part because the Nazi's were also fighting the British in Africa.The Nazi forces were being stretched on two fronts. Do some research!
cardensdriving 1 year ago
@cardensdriving Spain set the record straight centuries ago. You saying nonsense like "Spain owes Britian and the allies for fighting Nazis" thats just ignorance because the Spanish does not need to prove anything to Europe because they already did by discovering the new world.
Jazzyjaxx55 1 year ago 2
@Jazzyjaxx55 Had the allies not fought and Hitler had won the war he planned to murder the Spanish head of the Catholic church and Franco and install his own Nazi's in their place. The Nazi's had no respect for those who wouldn't fight them, and they disliked any race that wasn't Nordic in origin. In other words, Spain would have been governed by the Nazi's, and given that they murdered 6 million Jews, countless gypsies, along with 120 million others, what might they have done to you?
cardensdriving 1 year ago
@cardensdriving "He planned to murder the Spanish head of the catholic church and install his own Nazi's in there place" False, you cannot prove that is a fact unless hitler told you himself he was going to do that. "The Nazi's had no respect for those who wouldn't fight them"...false, because if that were true the Nazis would have invaded Italy or Austria instead of working with them.
Jazzyjaxx55 1 year ago
@Jazzyjaxx55 Hitler was Austrian, so he was hardly going to murder his own German speaking, Aryan people, whom welcomed him in to their country anyway. With Mussolini and Franco also being fascists Hitler was happy for them to be in power until he had beaten the Russians and the rest of the Allies.There exists no documentary evidence that Hitler planned to murder Franco, but highly respected Nazi sources say that he discussed it, and that the Spanish were not Aryan, so what can we deduce?
cardensdriving 1 year ago
@cardensdriving When Mussolini was in power it did not necessary mean the Italians supported his views which pretty much explains why he was murdered by his own people. The Spanish were not Aryan, if you mean they were not white? then your wrong. Spain till this day has many Spaniards with blonde hair and blue eyes because I personally seen them. Due to Spanish colonization you will see Spanish speakers come in all shades however it dont mean all of there ancestors trace back of Spanish origin.
Jazzyjaxx55 1 year ago
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@cardensdriving "Spain would have been governed by Nazis" once again something that you cannot prove because it is not a fact.
Jazzyjaxx55 1 year ago
@Richrmadrid28 I, in turn also understand your point of view, and know many Spaniards detested Franco, and fought bravely against him. I know the International brigade (Los Internancionales) comprised of around 35 000 volunteers from all around the world. To fair to the U.K, during Franco's early times the U.K was busy trying to arm itself against the threat they knew would come from the Nazi's. The U.K interfering in the politics of Spain at that time may not have been tolerated.
cardensdriving 1 year ago
"peaceful agreements" is a great motto, I prefer "Speak softly, but carry a big stick". ;-)
The population of Ceuta and Melilla want to remain Spanish, so I totally agree that they should, it would be unfair to force them to be Morroccans.
Where in Spain do you live? Did you choose to live near Ex-Pats or did they invade your area? ;-) Saludos!
cardensdriving 1 year ago
@cardensdriving lol....No,i´ve lived in the same area (Alicante) my whole life,the "invaders" came later :D,but no problem,the coast is very large :) Saludos!
Ximena0e 1 year ago
@Ximena0e Wow Alicante, lucky you. I've visited many times with my Dad on business. We love the Esplanada, and beautiful Ayuntamiento and have often taken a stroll up to El Barrio. My wife likes Maisonnave, I don't like shopping though. I did enjoy watching Hercules play though, my wife didn't! The playas at San Juan and Carrabassi are also lovely. I love Chiperones with Lemon too. You are well blessed living there.
cardensdriving 1 year ago
@cardensdriving Muchas gracias! i´m very glad you and your family enjoyed my town :).I´m from a small village very close ( about 2km) to the Carabassí beach,it´s a nice place surrounded by dunes and pine trees.You´re always welcome here.
Take care! :)
Ximena0e 1 year ago
@Ximena0e Urbanova? Santa pola? Gran Alacant?
cardensdriving 1 year ago
@cardensdriving Hi, I realise that you probably don't want to give personal information out on Youtube, so please don't answer the question below. Anyhow, it's a nice place.
cardensdriving 1 year ago
* peaceful agreements*
Ximena0e 1 year ago
You know Spain exercised its jurisdiction and total control of the archipielago,those islands were under the effective control of the spanish authorities, even the Duke of Wellington recognized that the sovereignity of those islands never belonged to Britain.And Argentina inherited the Spanish rights.Yes,many dutch,french,german and spanish colonies are poor and?,yet the520poorest countries on earth are the British colonies, a great honor!
Ximena0e 1 year ago
This historical account is full of a lot of rubbish. After the 1588 battle the Spanish Navy gradually gain the upper hand in the sea where they were able to win most of the sea battles and ship 3 times as much precious metals from the new world despite English attempts to seize them. When the peace treaty of 1604 was signed during the reign of King James I, England gained nothing and Spain continued to dominate the seas.
StefanZ17 1 year ago
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The Armada of 1588 is the biggest false story ever told in the English language. During the 19 year war, the Spanish Navy gradually gained the upper hand to the point that Elizabeth's successor, James I sued for peace and signed the treaty of 1604 which was mostly on Spanish terms. In other words, the Spanish won the war.
StefanZ17 1 year ago
La historia inglesa está completamente tergiversada. No se puede llamar a esta batalla 'victoria inglesa'. La tormenta destrozó casi cuarenta barcos de la Armada Española, la armada fue derrotada por culpa de eso, no ha causa de la armada inglesa.
English history is completely distorted. You can not call this battle "English victory." The storm destroyed nearly forty ships of the Spanish Armada, the fleet was defeated because of that, not because of the British navy.
Pablogj444 1 year ago
@Pablogj444, that's not what the rest of the world things..they still kick your arses!
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mitott8 1 year ago 2
english had better ships and better cannons and also outnumbered the spanish
ships, the spanish had 130 ships and the english had 197 ships
the english ships were faster and stronger than the spanish ships
the spanish ships was first sighted off the Isles of Scilly to the west of Cornwall
in the distance
shauntheassassin 1 year ago
The Spanish ships were larger than those of the English and were thus 'greener'. When it came to transporting pack animals to support an invasion the Spanish ships could get more mules to the galleon.
laerad 1 year ago
Y si hubiera ganado.Al imponer el catolicismo,gales e inglaterra se hubieran rebelado en una guerra parecida a la de los holandeses,la guerra de los 30 años se hubiera producido igual y despues de ser derrotada españa,inglaterra hubiera recuperado su independencia.En ningun caso (victoria o derrota) la cosa cambia.
ANTIHYTLERS 1 year ago
la armada no cambio la historia.España siguio siendo la primera potencia mundial hasta 1659 y en el mar hasta 1639.Los inglese perdieron la guerra en 1604 (el tratado de londres fue mas favorable a españa) y no se convirtieron en un imperio hasta la guerra de los 7 años.
ANTIHYTLERS 1 year ago
1:23 is from hornblower lol
isaactrio 1 year ago
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it's so funny how the spanish STILL can't get over the fact that their misogynist asses got beat by a woman. It amuses me...
evaperonfan 1 year ago
@evaperonfan but if that's what we learned from the English when they ran every time Joan of Arc came. ajjajajaja
ANTIHYTLERS 1 year ago
All I can say is that still don't get it how in thr 21st century still England is trying to manège an imperial status ? They should leave Gibraltar and the falkland islands
Spaniard781 1 year ago 7
@Spaniard781 The Spanish ceded Gibraltar "in perpetuity" to the English, as documented in the treaty of Utrecht. You signed the contract, does your word me nothing?
The Falklands or Las Malvinas were originally settled by sailors from St.Malo in Bretagne. Las Malvinas is a corruption of Les Malouins i.e the people of St.Malo. Here's a suggestion; England can give the Falklands back to Argentina, and they can give them back to the people of St.Malo. Would that satisfy your logic?
cardensdriving 1 year ago
@cardensdriving Spain ceded the property of Gibraltar,not the sovereignity.And btw Ceuta and Melilla are Spanish cities since even before the existence of Morocco as a State and unlike Gibraltar,none of them are or have ever been in the UN decolonization list.
Ximena0e 1 year ago
@Ximena0e Do you believe in peoples democratic right to self determination? Gibraltarian's want to remain British, Falklanders the same and the Northern Irish too. Gibratarian's don't want to be part of Spain, Falklanders don't want to part of Argentina and the majority of the Northern Irish don't want to be part of the Republic of Ireland. It's not like we are forcing them to be colonies, they want to be!
Does Spain afford the Catalans the right to self determination?
cardensdriving 1 year ago
@cardensdriving What a way to twist things!.A while ago you were complaining about my country acting in an imperialist manner when the reality is that has zero colonies.Do u remember?.You even said that Spain should give back these Spanish cities to Morocco,so even if they were colonies with that comment u already admitted that u don´t believe in the people´s right to self-determination,except,of courseee,in the case of the 10 british colonies, how convenient....;)
Ximena0e 1 year ago
@cardensdriving UK,on the contrary, is the only country in the world that in the 21st century still have 10 colonies on that list,unbelievable isn´t it?..especially if we bear in mind that this list contains only 16 territories....and yet u have the balls to accuse Spain of acting in an imperialist manner lol
Ximena0e 1 year ago
@Spaniard781 Ceuta and Melia? Why in the 21st century does Spain still try to act in an imperial manner? They should hand back Ceuta and Melia. I'm sure the Morrocans would appreciate them back.
Sometimes, the facts are inconvenient, in this case, especially to your argument.
cardensdriving 1 year ago
@Spaniard781 In your mind...
GwaishfulGuy 1 year ago
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@Spaniard781
How about no?
Why leave it when you can keep it?
Imperial status? What the fuck are you on about?
Whats the matter? Embarrased by your shitty Spanish history? Stop being a jealous, pathetic faggot
spudnick3490 1 year ago
@spudnick3490 wow please kill yourself you know absolutely nothing...
TopAce777 11 months ago
@TopAce777
Nope...How about you kill yourself?
spudnick3490 11 months ago
@spudnick3490 Hahahahahahaha It's been a while since someones responded to that comment like that...Sorry I can't
TopAce777 11 months ago
@TopAce777
And it's been a while since a nerd like you has wasted everyones time...But theres always a first
spudnick3490 11 months ago
@spudnick3490 I like that answer you just gave me ;)
TopAce777 11 months ago
@TopAce777
I like it aswell ;)
spudnick3490 11 months ago
@spudnick3490 :)
TopAce777 11 months ago
@Spaniard781 Yours is the most popular comment. So i thought I'd remind you and all your followers of a few facts; The population of Gibraltar have voted many times to be British and not Spanish, and the Falklanders have also voted overwhelmingly to be British and not Argentinian. This my friend is called democracy, you may have heard of it, it you live in one. The people of Ceuta and Melilla want to be Spanish and not Morrocan, it's the same thing, unlike the Basques that don't.
cardensdriving 1 year ago