Search Google video for a video documentary named "Scientology - Above the law". You'll see how even in France, scientology remains close to power, but also the justice system and private companies. It's pretty scary...
JAN 2009 Members of the Women's Auxiliary of the Churches of Scientology recently delivered 100 hand-crocheted infant caps and blankets and handmade quilts to Garfield Medical Center in Monterey Park, California. The caps and blankets help premature infants regulate their body temperature, a bodily function that is undeveloped when babies are born prematurely. Care was taken to use non-allergenic yarn and with no fragrances.
Talk about printing lies on the Internet! When it's good PR you believer every word.
Somethings not right about your story. According to one of Scientology's front websites (womens-auxiliary dot blogspot) that story was published Sept 2006. Now you're claiming that this happened in Jan 2009. So which is it, and where did you get this story from? Was it a credible source, or was it from one of those random, unverifiable, self-publishing websites?
@sk8mike You are right. People shouldn't believe what they see, hear, read via the media. But if folks are going to expose themselves to slander, they may as well get the other stuff too.
Religion is a fraud. Freedom of religion law should be re-written to be more strict. I say u should be free to practice in your home. No religion is tax exempted. No religion can have a mega church or large church for that matter. And if any one associated with a religion decided to claim their religion is telling them to commit a crime of any kind must punish not only the person but the religion as a whole.
They're not banned anymore. Foreign Scientologists (eg. L Ron Hubbard, etc) were banned from entering the United Kingdom between 1968–1980. The Charity Commission for England and Wales still does not class Scientology as a religion on financial grounds.
The core of Christianity (same is true for most other religions) is an idea to be good to each other, while atheists for some reason are always focusing on its "how the World Began" part which is a small part of the whole.
@alexgrinkov Atheist's don't need a religion to tell them to be good to others. Nobody should, really. Being good toward others is just common social norms. Being good out of fear of some negative sanction (hell, for instance) vs. being good just because it's the right thing says a lot about a person.
The apparent focus on "how the world began" is only to combat creationist silliness. Not all Atheist's are scientists, and not all scientists are Atheist's.
Or, for example, how Hinduism or Judaism can be frauds, since it's nation-centered institutes. It's like say that American President is "a fraud to manipulate people"
Nice video. Too bad they weren't convicted of all the murders they are guilty of starting with my room mate about 30 years ago. They have been hiding behind the first ammendment for decades while raping and pillaging as they go. V
like 6 years ago a girl dragged me to a health food store where people were giving a free health test. we get there and it looks dam near identical to the old e-meters. i start asking questions and yep they where scientologist trying to trick health nuts.
the store owner ended up telling them to leave after they tried throwing me out of the store. it was funny because the store owner and the crowd thanked me because they had no idea it was scientologist
@Nibielari Yes, I've experienced that, too. When Scilons are trying to exploit a new market, they NEVER tell you who they really are. That should tell people a lot, but unfortunately not enough people get the message.
@Berus777 I really don't care about the World Cup and I hate football too. For me, the french football team doesn't represent in any way our nation ;)
@Lucassandro25 You can't really say that the French World Cup team does not represent France. That is the most important, popular sport in your country, and all of the world. Your press and media give it more attention than any other sport, and many news stories. You can't claim that Football is the "world sport" and then turn around and say it doesn't represent your nation. You can't have it both ways. Yes, what your team did in Africa in front of the entire world DOES REPRESENT FRANCE.
@Berus777 The french football team might represent France but only for Sports. I mean how can a bunch of overpaid and sellfish millionaires (and I know what I'm talking about) represent an entire nation of 65 million people?
your so messed up you make me cry scientology is true i just dont believe in half the stuff they teach me when they hypnotize me thats why im half catholic to i am the first of my kind a hybrid religion
All other religions don't fucking require money to fully learn thier religion but to fucking learn Scientology, well you have to pay fucling $200K and $1K to actually join.
I wonder, if we survive that long, what people will think in a thousand years about all this. They'll think society was insane for letting this go on as long as it has
well, you're familiar only with cheesy American version of christinaity and it still gives you impression you can speak for all religions and cults out there
well, you're familiar only with cheesy American version of christinaity and it still gives you impression you can speak? for all religions and cults out there
@alexgrinkov Oh, I'm only familiar with cheesy American version of Christianity? I'm not too sure how much you think about me, or what "cheesy American version of christinaity [sic]" is even supposed to mean.
It's supposed to mean that Christianity in America is lame and is yet another form of business, as healthcare is -- everything is being turned into business -- and you can't speak for all religions based on your little limited experience. You can't say that Christianity in Old Eastern churches is a fraud, for example.
@alexgrinkov Religion in general, everywhere, is fraud, I can say that. God can never be proven either way, but there is NO evidence for magic lots for naturalism. You're investing time (possibly $) into a into a delusion. Religion explains life to uneducated imbeciles. Logic and reason explains life to everybody else.
And again with the petty assumptions: "on your little limited experience." Do you have any idea who I am, what my degree's are in, where I've been, what I've done, and what I do?
Well, I was just saying that not every religion is a fraud, because a fraud is an intentional deception made for personal gain, while a religion is a set a beliefs, which sporadically involved in prehistoric time from some sorts of primitive deduction. But nowadays, religion is a good therapeutic tool for poors. Religion isn't anything bad. And also there're religions out there that are just a set of moral rules plus some philsophy.
@alexgrinkov I wouldn't go so far as saying every religion is not a fraud, as on some level the church leaders (temple, synagogue, &c...) must realise the difference between chance and divine intervention. If they do, their teaching of divine intervention is emotional fraud.
Consider the Roman Catholic Church's consistent reform of their official views of science and the world, as an example.
I do agree with you on the rest of your statement though.
What you depicting as religion in general, is actually a depiction of lame American Christinaity, with singing cheesy songs about doves and Popoffs healing on TV
That's pretty subjective. IMHO a person should be able to practice any religion, 'proper' or 'improper', as a matter of right. If the religion is scamming them out of time and money so be it; they have chosen to be scammed and it's their right to do so.
@MrDustandechoes "They have chosen to be scammed"? Are you for real? So you're saying that people don't join scientology because they think it will improve their lives, but because they want to be scammed?
I never want to live in a nanny state that monitors my associations and tells me what religious groups I can or cannot affiliate with. It should be up to me as an individual citizen to make responsible decisions regarding my personal religious affiliation, not the government. If an individual is illegally scammed, charges need to be filed against the offending party. End of story IMO.
IMHO banning any one religion for any reason leads us down a slippery slope.
So we should outlaw Jehova's Witness and Mormon practices because some label those organizations "cults"?
In my country I would want the freedom to peaceably assemble and practice whatever religion ("cult" or not) I wanted to, regardless of what my neighbors thought of it.
I've heard some terrible things about Scientology and think it's a cult as well, but I think it's a severe blow to the civil liberties of the people when government steps in and bans religious activity.
To all of you Atheists, sure there are few Jews, Muslims, Christians, etc that are frauds, I say that as a practicing Jew. But that is only a very small portion of the overall leaders/followers of the religions. Then by contrast you have Crapology, I mean $cientology that as a whole is a farce, and THAT is the problem. That is why I fully support Anonymous and all of their endeavors.
Well, to be fair Scientology is no more of a scam than the other religions with tax exempt status in the USA, except they are more forward in taking your money.
I say remove the tax exempt status from ALL religions. It's bad enough we have religion to start with, but attracting money grabbers into it with tax exemption is a foolish thing to do.
Just like most every Theist I've met in the last few years, you are great at ignoring what was already said.
You have the memory of a goldfish. I'm not going to repeat what I said yesterday to refute your bullshit, and now that I educated you in how to go back into all the comments and look things up, you have no excuse.
I also think its funny you are ignoring the facts about government LEADING the country.
Our President is called the Commander and Chief. Those are ALPHA MALE designations.
Government in all levels, from borough assembly members to mayors to governors and senators are LEADERS of the people they represent. "We need strong leadership" is something you will hear EVERY election in every level.
I think you are ignorant of much in the world, kid.
Have you seen this?
watch?v=f5OEKA47xFI
A dog goes out into a busy highway to rescue another dog hit by a car. Both survived. This dog shows more compassion and bravery than most humans.
National Geographic magazine, April 07, a leopard killed a mother baboon. The orphan baby reached out to hug the leopard and she stayed with the baby for four hours to care for it like a mother would, grooming it and taking it to higher branches.
That female leopard stopped right after the baby reached out for her. After caring for the baby baboon for four hours it died from the cold, and only then did she resume being the predator to actually eat the kill, but she left the baby alone. That female leopard already had a cub of her own.
I'm sure you will say the female leopard was not acting out of compassion or guilt, but that this hunter was turned into a mother again at the sight of a food source's baby. Sure.
Government has leadership, I never denied that. If you read what I responded with you would know that.
Government also protects it's people, such as laws against rape. The animal kingdom does not have this. You have failed to prove that it does, and simply act as if punishment for crime is meaningless and is no different from a lion pride or a dolphin pod.
You are ignoring facts to keep your argument alive. It's fine, I just usually expect it from religious fundamentalists.
Let me tell you what will happen here ThatOneQuestion.
You will either explain how you discipline your dog, and after that I will tell you exactly why your dog is afraid when you get out the gum wrapper.
OR you will lie about it and protect your argument with false data
OR you won't face the argument at all, just like you did with free will, just like you do any time someone disagrees with you and is getting the upper hand.
I can say this with my own brief personal experience of you.
"I can say this with my own brief personal experience of you"
Says the habitual liar, yeah, that is REAL credible.
Just like with free will? I FUCKING told you TWICE at LEAST why you are too idiotic to even go into brain chemistry. The comment on page 2 of your own channel already kicked your ass on the free will thing, and HE thought you were religious as well. Hummmm.
I think someone is lying out there ass here, and it isn't me.
Actually you haven't. You believe your dog seeks atonement when it does something wrong. This belief flies in the face of almost all modern canine research.
You think "survival instincts" means it thinks it's life is threatened. This is due to your lack of knowledge on the subject as well.
You cannot explain why my dog thinks it's in trouble any time I clean a stain on the floor...other than my dog is "stupid".
fictiontology will be shut down eventually. look how much youtube is doing right now? the only church of scientology in my city is in a very old rundown building inbetween 2 tatoo parlors, and across the street from a strip club.
Why pay so much for religion practice? That got my attention for scientology scams on new followers. Islam,christianity, judaism and even atheism are free to join. A lot of followers of scientology pay so much to practice the religion. The only reason they are after hollywood stars or wealthy people is because money.
Scripture is HEARSAY & SUPERSTITION of an old civilisation that had very little knowledge of their surroundings. So there goes your "circumstantial evidence" argument in a puff of thick smoke. It has got ZERO amount of credibility.
None of the mainstream religions practice and encourage anything to the extent fair game is applied. The majority of these religions do not apply fairgame tactics as institutionalized policies;Scientology does.
Activities this sect is currently participating in havent been seen since the dark ages. It was wrong then and its wrong now. Just because people used to burn witches, heretics, and atheists, does that make a new religion doing the same thing today alright? No, of course it doesnt.
No major religion coerces its members to pay for religious services. Scientology requires its members to pay "fixed donations" for any service. Staff members aggressively try to convince other Scientologists to purchase services in a practice known as "hard regging". Furthermore, staff and Sea Org members are often recruited with the promise of free services, but required to do nearly unpaid work for the organization in exchange, and will be billed for a "freeloader debt" if they leave.
Yeah they are giving out their little stress test at my local mall here in Tennessee. Yeah and they do it under the Dianetics logo not $cientology. Keep up the good work, because our knowledge is free.
The law modification was part of a processus that begun years ago. Every 2 months, a law article is simplified to make its use easier for the judges.
Ofc the fact that this particular law was modified while CoS was sued is no coincidence. It created a huge controversy and lawyers are still arguing over this.
At least a verdict was given. The trial lasted for too long and it was not judicious to keep on holding back its end.
Sorry for the English, hope that helped you understand the problem.
To me the evidence is in nature itself. If you walk in to a room and there is shit on the floor, it just didn't scientifically appear there, someone or something put it there. Every man has a father, and I think the universe has one aswell. If you don't think man has a overall purpose in life, then why are we even here then? Words like (GOD) and purose where to they originate from?
To me the evidence is in nature itself. If you walk in to a room and there is shit on the floor, it just didn't scientifically appear there, someone or something put it there. Every man has a father, and I think the universe has one aswell. If you don't think man has a overall purpose in life, then why are we even here then? Words like (GOD) and purose where to they originate from?
To me the evidence is in nature itself. If you walk in to a room and there is shit on the floor, it just didn't scientifically appear there, someone or something put it there. Every man has a father, and I think the universe has one aswell. If you don't think man has a overall purpose in life, then why are we even here then? Words like (GOD) and purose where to they originate from?
The shit didn't just show up in the room and you know it, and if it was scientific, well then who said God wasn't behind science. Someone had to create at some point.
Sure, here is something else that has been written:
10 And in the eight hour of the day of Thurs, He cast about the room looking for the chair he had fallen out of. 11 With the unbridled joy of laughter echoing still, he set his gaze upon the scene once more. 12 Thus, and forever still, he marked the posts as SPAM, for they were unrelated to the channel in which he spoke.
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and goodwill shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
ok... where is your god right now? i can point out numerous people that god should take out, he can use my binoculars if he likes! bible =no basis of fact..unprovable. it is also a big money maker. i so wish people would wake up to the real world.
Keep quoting from your magical book, kid, yeah... because Circular Logic will TOTALLY convince everyone you are right!
Why dont you go find a Creationist propaganda video to go share yourself on? They would love to hear your intellectual suicide and would actually thank you for vomiting your ignorance in their face.
The reason that you would know that the shit got there from someone or something is because you have shit yourself and odds are you have seen other animals shit. If you had never seen shit before and saw it in a room, it would take some scientific investigation and simply saying "goddoneit" doesn't cut it for me. And I don't equate there being a god to me having purpose. Purpose is something I define for myself.
You did not create the meaning of the word purpose. If (GOD) is not real then who came up with the general idea that there is one? So you are saying there is no reason, no meaning, no purpose behind science? Science just starting happening one day and has never stopped since? Sciendce made itself?
You are not in charge of me! So science made itself. You believe that life just came to be, you actually belive science and life were not even created. In other words your fucking crazy! lol
You don't believe in a (GOD), so what do you believe in? What science do you go by that explains your existence here on earth and more important whats the energy/force that is running your science and theories. How did your theory begin?
There are a few different questions there, it might take a few comments. First: people needed a way to explain natural phenomenon around them. What causes the earthquakes, the sun to rise, the tides? Gods.
Second: The purpose of science is to study and learn more about the natural world around us. People have always wanted to do that. Scientific inquiry as we now understand it probably originated in ancient Greece. Many people attribute it to Aristotle and Theophrastus.
Were did Aristotle and Theophrastus all get there ideas from and whats running those ideas and whats running earthquakes, the sun and the tides and nateral phenomenon. Whats running nature and how did nature come to be in general. I don't want to know what people think runs nature just please you tell me what runs nature in general and how it come into play?
Nature runs itself. It's too broad a question to answer. If you'd like to know how a specific thing runs I'd be happy to tell you and if I don't know I can certainly point you in the right direction. But so far as I can tell there is no force that controls everything.
Well, I'm not entirely sure. Do you have a theory of how it happened, and some evidence to back that theory up? Because if you're just going to say "goddoneit" then I don't really care. If you have some EVIDENCE that is what happened, please, share it with the world and accept your Nobel Prize.
So your not entirely sure what started nature, but you are sure it wasn't a higher power aka (GOD) who is a spirit? Your saying there was no creator of nature it just made itself.
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm not saying that I know it wasn't a god. I'm saying if you're going to claim that, you have to provide evidence just like everyone else. Do you have some evidence?
The only evidence I have is common sense, we have learned from science that things don't create themself so how could nature makes itself without a creator.
Again, "common sense" doesn't cut it. To illustrate, point me to something that we have seen "created". All that we have observed is energy being reorganized. Reorganized into matter, and back into energy. But we have never seen anything "created". So how could we use common sense to draw conclusions about something we have never seen happen?
No no, I'm not saying common sense doesn't have it's place, I'm simply saying that this isn't it. Again, please give me some evidence that this was "created" and I will follow it. I'm not saying that it was always there. I'm not saying anything. I make no comment on a question without evidence being presented. As far as science being created. As I said, scientific inquiry in the way we now think of it was most likely thought up by Greek philosophers.
Energy just was did not have a maker, no such thing as a maker of anything. Just because people talk about Tom Cruise doesn't mean he is real, because I have never met him so there is no evidence to me he is real, plus tv might just be made up as well as everything else.
lol
duncangray2011 6 months ago
Great words wise beard man.
Thanks as always for your support.
Anonymous will never leave you.
We are legion.
We are a force of good.
We are a revolution of intelligence and subversion.
Expect us.
Always.
CoronaMage 10 months ago
Search Google video for a video documentary named "Scientology - Above the law". You'll see how even in France, scientology remains close to power, but also the justice system and private companies. It's pretty scary...
niaj4 1 year ago 2
what award is that you've got up there mark? left of the V mask. i can't place it...
DecadentDisturber 1 year ago
JAN 2009 Members of the Women's Auxiliary of the Churches of Scientology recently delivered 100 hand-crocheted infant caps and blankets and handmade quilts to Garfield Medical Center in Monterey Park, California. The caps and blankets help premature infants regulate their body temperature, a bodily function that is undeveloped when babies are born prematurely. Care was taken to use non-allergenic yarn and with no fragrances.
Darn those Scientologists.
TheGoalSetter 1 year ago
@TheGoalSetter
Talk about printing lies on the Internet! When it's good PR you believer every word.
Somethings not right about your story. According to one of Scientology's front websites (womens-auxiliary dot blogspot) that story was published Sept 2006. Now you're claiming that this happened in Jan 2009. So which is it, and where did you get this story from? Was it a credible source, or was it from one of those random, unverifiable, self-publishing websites?
LOL, what a joke.
sk8mike 1 year ago
@sk8mike You are right. People shouldn't believe what they see, hear, read via the media. But if folks are going to expose themselves to slander, they may as well get the other stuff too.
TheGoalSetter 1 year ago
@TheGoalSetter
If you want to expose yourself to slander then I suggest you take a look at religious freedom watch dot org.
sk8mike 1 year ago
Religion is a fraud. Freedom of religion law should be re-written to be more strict. I say u should be free to practice in your home. No religion is tax exempted. No religion can have a mega church or large church for that matter. And if any one associated with a religion decided to claim their religion is telling them to commit a crime of any kind must punish not only the person but the religion as a whole.
LikMyFace 1 year ago
scientology isnt banned in england, what is this guy on about?
bansheewhiskey 1 year ago
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sk8mike 1 year ago
@bansheewhiskey
They're not banned anymore. Foreign Scientologists (eg. L Ron Hubbard, etc) were banned from entering the United Kingdom between 1968–1980. The Charity Commission for England and Wales still does not class Scientology as a religion on financial grounds.
sk8mike 1 year ago
The core of Christianity (same is true for most other religions) is an idea to be good to each other, while atheists for some reason are always focusing on its "how the World Began" part which is a small part of the whole.
alexgrinkov 1 year ago
@alexgrinkov Atheist's don't need a religion to tell them to be good to others. Nobody should, really. Being good toward others is just common social norms. Being good out of fear of some negative sanction (hell, for instance) vs. being good just because it's the right thing says a lot about a person.
The apparent focus on "how the world began" is only to combat creationist silliness. Not all Atheist's are scientists, and not all scientists are Atheist's.
Locke99GS 1 year ago
"And also there're religions out there that are just a set of moral rules plus some philsophy." -- i.e. you can't say it's for imbeciles.
alexgrinkov 1 year ago
Or, for example, how Hinduism or Judaism can be frauds, since it's nation-centered institutes. It's like say that American President is "a fraud to manipulate people"
alexgrinkov 1 year ago
You're welcome in Russia -- there's no scientology here. :) Maybe they're officially present, but not more that a marginal group nobody cares for.
alexgrinkov 1 year ago
Indiana Jones approves of what you are doing! Keep fighting those scientology snakes!
shadowjsw 1 year ago
Nice video. Too bad they weren't convicted of all the murders they are guilty of starting with my room mate about 30 years ago. They have been hiding behind the first ammendment for decades while raping and pillaging as they go. V
shatros 1 year ago
like 6 years ago a girl dragged me to a health food store where people were giving a free health test. we get there and it looks dam near identical to the old e-meters. i start asking questions and yep they where scientologist trying to trick health nuts.
the store owner ended up telling them to leave after they tried throwing me out of the store. it was funny because the store owner and the crowd thanked me because they had no idea it was scientologist
Nibielari 1 year ago
@Nibielari Yes, I've experienced that, too. When Scilons are trying to exploit a new market, they NEVER tell you who they really are. That should tell people a lot, but unfortunately not enough people get the message.
TheAdultChild101 1 year ago
Awesome video Mark. Good for France. I wish Canada would do the same.
evilninja3000 1 year ago
Lol 0:58 Voice crack
shippo7890 1 year ago
I love the Guy Fawkes mask in the background. You're awesome EBG
WeAreL3gion 1 year ago
When are you going to make a new video, Mark?
lithjimmy 1 year ago
Good for France at least they have more sense than us.
GuysSeriously 1 year ago
this is why i'm proudbeing french!!!
Lucassandro25 1 year ago
@Lucassandro25 Can I be French too?
frankensteinmoneymac 1 year ago
@Lucassandro25 Yes, and you should be! The World Cup was a perfect example of French superiority in action!
Berus777 1 year ago
@Berus777 I really don't care about the World Cup and I hate football too. For me, the french football team doesn't represent in any way our nation ;)
Lucassandro25 1 year ago
@Lucassandro25 You can't really say that the French World Cup team does not represent France. That is the most important, popular sport in your country, and all of the world. Your press and media give it more attention than any other sport, and many news stories. You can't claim that Football is the "world sport" and then turn around and say it doesn't represent your nation. You can't have it both ways. Yes, what your team did in Africa in front of the entire world DOES REPRESENT FRANCE.
Berus777 1 year ago
@Berus777 The french football team might represent France but only for Sports. I mean how can a bunch of overpaid and sellfish millionaires (and I know what I'm talking about) represent an entire nation of 65 million people?
Lucassandro25 1 year ago
A mask of yourself on the shelf.... love it.
ahachie 1 year ago
Who is this guy? He's awesome! How bout YOU keep up the good work? :D
SaintsCanada 1 year ago
your so messed up you make me cry scientology is true i just dont believe in half the stuff they teach me when they hypnotize me thats why im half catholic to i am the first of my kind a hybrid religion
cream183st 1 year ago
i LOVE THOSE MASKS IN THE BACKGROUND
finnbjerke 1 year ago 2
All other religions don't fucking require money to fully learn thier religion but to fucking learn Scientology, well you have to pay fucling $200K and $1K to actually join.
WHy require money to join a religoon!?
Seems like they make money out of this religion.
TSMK900 1 year ago 3
I wonder, if we survive that long, what people will think in a thousand years about all this. They'll think society was insane for letting this go on as long as it has
thatsMrSmileytoyou 1 year ago 2
WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED..........
SuckaFr33ze 1 year ago
@SuperSoylent
As a christain. FUCKING YEAH!!!
HxCandGore 1 year ago
Scientology is NOT a religion, it is built on fraud.
The treatment of Staff/SO/children in this cult proves that its built on lies.
All head and no heart.
vaaLLarr 1 year ago 26
@vaaLLarr just because its built on fraud doesnt mean its not a religion
pigballs911 1 year ago
@vaaLLarr This is true for all religions.
Locke99GS 1 year ago
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alexgrinkov 1 year ago
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@Locke99GS
well, you're familiar only with cheesy American version of christinaity and it still gives you impression you can speak for all religions and cults out there
alexgrinkov 1 year ago
@Locke99GS
well, you're familiar only with cheesy American version of christinaity and it still gives you impression you can speak? for all religions and cults out there
alexgrinkov 1 year ago
@alexgrinkov Oh, I'm only familiar with cheesy American version of Christianity? I'm not too sure how much you think about me, or what "cheesy American version of christinaity [sic]" is even supposed to mean.
Locke99GS 1 year ago
@Locke99GS
It's supposed to mean that Christianity in America is lame and is yet another form of business, as healthcare is -- everything is being turned into business -- and you can't speak for all religions based on your little limited experience. You can't say that Christianity in Old Eastern churches is a fraud, for example.
alexgrinkov 1 year ago
@alexgrinkov Religion in general, everywhere, is fraud, I can say that. God can never be proven either way, but there is NO evidence for magic lots for naturalism. You're investing time (possibly $) into a into a delusion. Religion explains life to uneducated imbeciles. Logic and reason explains life to everybody else.
And again with the petty assumptions: "on your little limited experience." Do you have any idea who I am, what my degree's are in, where I've been, what I've done, and what I do?
Locke99GS 1 year ago
@Locke99GS
Well, I was just saying that not every religion is a fraud, because a fraud is an intentional deception made for personal gain, while a religion is a set a beliefs, which sporadically involved in prehistoric time from some sorts of primitive deduction. But nowadays, religion is a good therapeutic tool for poors. Religion isn't anything bad. And also there're religions out there that are just a set of moral rules plus some philsophy.
alexgrinkov 1 year ago
@alexgrinkov I wouldn't go so far as saying every religion is not a fraud, as on some level the church leaders (temple, synagogue, &c...) must realise the difference between chance and divine intervention. If they do, their teaching of divine intervention is emotional fraud.
Consider the Roman Catholic Church's consistent reform of their official views of science and the world, as an example.
I do agree with you on the rest of your statement though.
Locke99GS 1 year ago
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@Locke99GS and consider the protestant religions too. no difference buddy. and you were born into one or the other.
bansheewhiskey 1 year ago
@Locke99GS protestants are the same buddy.and i bet you were born into either one or the other.
bansheewhiskey 1 year ago
What you depicting as religion in general, is actually a depiction of lame American Christinaity, with singing cheesy songs about doves and Popoffs healing on TV
alexgrinkov 1 year ago
I think the important question here is,what are france's crimes?
ViralMessiah 2 years ago
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teethindarkness 1 year ago
ViralMessiah-$ciFag Troll.
teethindarkness 1 year ago
@teethindarkness seriously? jeeze there are a lot of people who can't understand jokes.
ViralMessiah 1 year ago
@ViralMessiah I think your definition of a joke differs greatly from the already formulated and accepted definition of said joke. *shrugs*
teethindarkness 1 year ago
Wise beard man is amazing...as usual.
KoruKinshi 2 years ago 3
guy fawkes mask ftw
Opqosite 2 years ago
I guess "tax free" is a Religion...........
Elevationary 2 years ago
I read about this fraud in a newspaper. I was kind of furious that france did not ban scientology for this fraud. I hope they will ban it someday.
Necrosadistic123 2 years ago
Hope the church of Scientology's greed will be its own undoing
GoMeteorite 2 years ago 2
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GoMeteorite 2 years ago
@MrDustandechoes scientology is doing all sorts of tax fraud
upgrayedd96 2 years ago
How dare the French? They are clearly being paid by Anon...the French government/ Judiciary, I mean. Tsk.
gcowings 2 years ago
banning a religion from a country? that's rediculous.
MrDustandechoes 2 years ago
@MrDustandechoes It's not really a proper religion though is it.
Johnytxtc 2 years ago
That's pretty subjective. IMHO a person should be able to practice any religion, 'proper' or 'improper', as a matter of right. If the religion is scamming them out of time and money so be it; they have chosen to be scammed and it's their right to do so.
MrDustandechoes 2 years ago
@MrDustandechoes "They have chosen to be scammed"? Are you for real? So you're saying that people don't join scientology because they think it will improve their lives, but because they want to be scammed?
PontubeChannel 2 years ago
I never want to live in a nanny state that monitors my associations and tells me what religious groups I can or cannot affiliate with. It should be up to me as an individual citizen to make responsible decisions regarding my personal religious affiliation, not the government. If an individual is illegally scammed, charges need to be filed against the offending party. End of story IMO.
IMHO banning any one religion for any reason leads us down a slippery slope.
MrDustandechoes 2 years ago
Ah it was only french they ripped off.
core1976scotland 2 years ago
It's not a religion....it only pretends to be.
jedihunter176 2 years ago 3
They're banning a cult, not a religion.
KzrrainzYes 2 years ago 2
So we should outlaw Jehova's Witness and Mormon practices because some label those organizations "cults"?
In my country I would want the freedom to peaceably assemble and practice whatever religion ("cult" or not) I wanted to, regardless of what my neighbors thought of it.
I've heard some terrible things about Scientology and think it's a cult as well, but I think it's a severe blow to the civil liberties of the people when government steps in and bans religious activity.
MrDustandechoes 2 years ago
@MrDustandechoes
Jehova's Witness yeah, Mormon no
Miskatakeable 1 year ago
we need more scilons in court and convictedfor what they done and they will vanish into thin air
good riddance !!!
xenuisot3 2 years ago
Cam was a lil out of focus but well said!
Johnytxtc 2 years ago
To all of you Atheists, sure there are few Jews, Muslims, Christians, etc that are frauds, I say that as a practicing Jew. But that is only a very small portion of the overall leaders/followers of the religions. Then by contrast you have Crapology, I mean $cientology that as a whole is a farce, and THAT is the problem. That is why I fully support Anonymous and all of their endeavors.
gigarath 2 years ago
is the movement dying out? i don't hear much about the movement anymore
arweiss21 2 years ago
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Which one? Scientology is already on its way down the crapper. I can then assure you on the same note that Anonymous is very much alive!
We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us.
gigarath 2 years ago
I once saw wise beard man melt steel by staring at it. Later while walking down the street I saw him lift a semi truck to save a trapped chid.
DELTAwun 2 years ago 4
I detect the presence of a $cifag in this comment section
ChrisTripp 2 years ago
Well, to be fair Scientology is no more of a scam than the other religions with tax exempt status in the USA, except they are more forward in taking your money.
I say remove the tax exempt status from ALL religions. It's bad enough we have religion to start with, but attracting money grabbers into it with tax exemption is a foolish thing to do.
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
Fine, you can have that opinion and I won't stop you - but Scientology isn't even a religion to start with, it's just an organisation.
freezeflamer 2 years ago 2
Why should ANY religion have tax exempt status? If they make money they should pay tax, if they work for nothing then they don't need to pay any.
For me it's this simple. Why should one bullshit fairy tale belief system get tax exempt and not another?
AlRasuwl 2 years ago 3
That's right. ChristFags, Sclilons, IslamoFags---all of them should pay up like the disingenuos businesses they are.
We Are Legion
MuslimRevolutionFag 2 years ago
"The best way to enslave people is to tell them you're going to give them total freedom." - L. Ron Hubbard
ChurchOfSientology 2 years ago 40
wasnt it: "those who are most hopelessly enslaved, are those who falsly believe they are free."
klomedih 2 years ago
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You would like the governments of the world to have the power to ban religion? Boy, are you screwed up.
998987987698765 2 years ago
Research the subject before you form an opinion.
AnonymousLiberation 2 years ago
Buyer Beware! The law isn't going to do the lion's share, education here as elsewhere, is the real hope for the world.
When did we get hyponotised into thinking governments would protect us?
newbetterandhappy 2 years ago 2
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ThatOneQuestion, if I could pick a youtube video that reminded me of you the most, it would be the crazy lady vs the telemarketer.
watch?v=qkE1Nbk-wuI
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
What is known right now however, is that you are going against an abundant supply of canine research...scientific research.
Dogs do not see carpet cleaner and "remember" the time they peed on the floor, and then feel sorry for it.
They see you doing the same action that you were doing when they got in trouble, and perhaps similar smells.
They do not ask for "repentance" nor do they attempt to atone for their action.
Your dog is exactly the same as a thief begging for mercy.
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
Just like most every Theist I've met in the last few years, you are great at ignoring what was already said.
You have the memory of a goldfish. I'm not going to repeat what I said yesterday to refute your bullshit, and now that I educated you in how to go back into all the comments and look things up, you have no excuse.
Must be nice to be young and stupid, kid.
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
I also think its funny you are ignoring the facts about government LEADING the country.
Our President is called the Commander and Chief. Those are ALPHA MALE designations.
Government in all levels, from borough assembly members to mayors to governors and senators are LEADERS of the people they represent. "We need strong leadership" is something you will hear EVERY election in every level.
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
I'm also still laughing that you think a dog cant possibly have any repentance because they dont have any money, THAT was really funny!
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
I think you are ignorant of much in the world, kid.
Have you seen this?
watch?v=f5OEKA47xFI
A dog goes out into a busy highway to rescue another dog hit by a car. Both survived. This dog shows more compassion and bravery than most humans.
National Geographic magazine, April 07, a leopard killed a mother baboon. The orphan baby reached out to hug the leopard and she stayed with the baby for four hours to care for it like a mother would, grooming it and taking it to higher branches.
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
That female leopard stopped right after the baby reached out for her. After caring for the baby baboon for four hours it died from the cold, and only then did she resume being the predator to actually eat the kill, but she left the baby alone. That female leopard already had a cub of her own.
I'm sure you will say the female leopard was not acting out of compassion or guilt, but that this hunter was turned into a mother again at the sight of a food source's baby. Sure.
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
Clearly animals are just lesser creatures, right?
Clearly we are so much better than they are.
Obviously there is no way they have the possibility to express the emotions we arrogantly assume are 100% human.
Yeah. Sorry kid, but you really dont have a clue.
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
Spam much?
anonynat 2 years ago
Spam is the same thing repeated over and over.
If you had taken two seconds to see that this is just one cycle of an argument with a retarded Theist, you might realized its obviously not spam.
Fail.
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
He does spam a lot, but so am I. I am turning our conversation to a private one through messages on youtube instead of cluttering Mark's page here.
Unless of course he wishes to continue calling me bad names in this thread lol...I'll keep my responses short here though.
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
"That female leopard stopped right after the baby reached out for her."
I saw this video months before you've posted about it here. The baby baboon doesn't reach out for the leopard.
The leopard was about to eat the mother and hears it crying, and becomes unsure of what to do.
You're hilarious man...you think the leopard was sorry for doing what is natural to it, what it does its whole life.
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
The dog was caring for a mate, still not atonement. Keep trying.
The leopard was a young mother herself who had recently lost her cubs I believe? Motherly instinct.
Do you think the leopard was "sorry" for killing the baboon and so atoned for her crime by caring for the baby?
You realize the idea of "good and evil" doesn't exist in the animal kingdom? That it is a philosophy that humans have come up with?
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
Government has leadership, I never denied that. If you read what I responded with you would know that.
Government also protects it's people, such as laws against rape. The animal kingdom does not have this. You have failed to prove that it does, and simply act as if punishment for crime is meaningless and is no different from a lion pride or a dolphin pod.
You are ignoring facts to keep your argument alive. It's fine, I just usually expect it from religious fundamentalists.
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
Let me tell you what will happen here ThatOneQuestion.
You will either explain how you discipline your dog, and after that I will tell you exactly why your dog is afraid when you get out the gum wrapper.
OR you will lie about it and protect your argument with false data
OR you won't face the argument at all, just like you did with free will, just like you do any time someone disagrees with you and is getting the upper hand.
I can say this with my own brief personal experience of you.
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
"I can say this with my own brief personal experience of you"
Says the habitual liar, yeah, that is REAL credible.
Just like with free will? I FUCKING told you TWICE at LEAST why you are too idiotic to even go into brain chemistry. The comment on page 2 of your own channel already kicked your ass on the free will thing, and HE thought you were religious as well. Hummmm.
I think someone is lying out there ass here, and it isn't me.
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
"They do not ask for "repentance""
Already shot this argument of yours to shit.
I dont care if your dog is too stupid or you too arrogantly ignore your dog.
Your examples of "survival" instinct is bullshit, especially when my dog would know that its survival is not in question.
But then, I already said that. How many fucking times are you going to ignore what I already said, kid?
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
"Already shot this argument of yours to shit."
Actually you haven't. You believe your dog seeks atonement when it does something wrong. This belief flies in the face of almost all modern canine research.
You think "survival instincts" means it thinks it's life is threatened. This is due to your lack of knowledge on the subject as well.
You cannot explain why my dog thinks it's in trouble any time I clean a stain on the floor...other than my dog is "stupid".
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
You're the habitual liar, so it doesn't suprise me you'd say that about me.
If you believe in free will, you cannot explain to me where it comes from scientifically, which means your "belief" is as good as mine.
If you don't believe in free will, then this isn't an argument in the first place, it's a predetermined event, like two astreroids colliding.
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
Schizophrenia is a disease, not a religion.
jerrylewis333 2 years ago 2
I'll continue this tomorrow with you if you're up for it, right now I have to leave.
I'll leave you with the final post for now, so make it one of those "you have no argument so you are pretending to leave" ones...those are good :D
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
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fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
fictiontology will be shut down eventually. look how much youtube is doing right now? the only church of scientology in my city is in a very old rundown building inbetween 2 tatoo parlors, and across the street from a strip club.
hl2vshalo2 2 years ago
Why pay so much for religion practice? That got my attention for scientology scams on new followers. Islam,christianity, judaism and even atheism are free to join. A lot of followers of scientology pay so much to practice the religion. The only reason they are after hollywood stars or wealthy people is because money.
Chromegrillz 2 years ago
Scripture is HEARSAY & SUPERSTITION of an old civilisation that had very little knowledge of their surroundings. So there goes your "circumstantial evidence" argument in a puff of thick smoke. It has got ZERO amount of credibility.
isreasontaboo 2 years ago
None of the mainstream religions practice and encourage anything to the extent fair game is applied. The majority of these religions do not apply fairgame tactics as institutionalized policies;Scientology does.
Activities this sect is currently participating in havent been seen since the dark ages. It was wrong then and its wrong now. Just because people used to burn witches, heretics, and atheists, does that make a new religion doing the same thing today alright? No, of course it doesnt.
OpenComments 2 years ago
No major religion coerces its members to pay for religious services. Scientology requires its members to pay "fixed donations" for any service. Staff members aggressively try to convince other Scientologists to purchase services in a practice known as "hard regging". Furthermore, staff and Sea Org members are often recruited with the promise of free services, but required to do nearly unpaid work for the organization in exchange, and will be billed for a "freeloader debt" if they leave.
OpenComments 2 years ago
Yeah they are giving out their little stress test at my local mall here in Tennessee. Yeah and they do it under the Dianetics logo not $cientology. Keep up the good work, because our knowledge is free.
etna69 2 years ago
love the indiana jones poster, mark!
TheeIntolerableKidd 2 years ago
All organised religion is fraud and should be convicted of it.
isreasontaboo 2 years ago
OMG, the video quality is great!
nitheea 2 years ago
YAY FRANCE!!!!!
Francie32 2 years ago
FUCK YEA!
RedDracolich 2 years ago
Yeah cause if they pay the fine they won't be able to have diamond encrusted swimming pools.. for a couple of months.
SOUTHPARK REFERENCE ANYONE
ColouredPenguins 2 years ago
The law modification was part of a processus that begun years ago. Every 2 months, a law article is simplified to make its use easier for the judges.
Ofc the fact that this particular law was modified while CoS was sued is no coincidence. It created a huge controversy and lawyers are still arguing over this.
At least a verdict was given. The trial lasted for too long and it was not judicious to keep on holding back its end.
Sorry for the English, hope that helped you understand the problem.
Lyxilokojo 2 years ago
I am really wondering that no one checked it that sudden law change in France. They should have. It's absolutely not coincidence.
mollie2810 2 years ago
Guy Fawkes mask.. :)
metalxx7 2 years ago
I believe that your videos download much slower than any other videos I want to watch. Why is that???
niccwag 2 years ago
Check out Scientology's response to the issue -- Google "Spokesman: Scientologists arent anti-gay"
ghummybears 2 years ago
Hey Mark I love the second mask of You .I think is hilarous !!! Where did You get it from ??? Many greetings from Poland !
klaudio73 2 years ago
Hubbard did it. He is OT9. He has exteriorized and created a society that he can control. There is an end to the bridge, and Ron reached it!
hydrophonicspace 2 years ago
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To me the evidence is in nature itself. If you walk in to a room and there is shit on the floor, it just didn't scientifically appear there, someone or something put it there. Every man has a father, and I think the universe has one aswell. If you don't think man has a overall purpose in life, then why are we even here then? Words like (GOD) and purose where to they originate from?
BentHenny 2 years ago
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To me the evidence is in nature itself. If you walk in to a room and there is shit on the floor, it just didn't scientifically appear there, someone or something put it there. Every man has a father, and I think the universe has one aswell. If you don't think man has a overall purpose in life, then why are we even here then? Words like (GOD) and purose where to they originate from?
BentHenny 2 years ago
To me the evidence is in nature itself. If you walk in to a room and there is shit on the floor, it just didn't scientifically appear there, someone or something put it there. Every man has a father, and I think the universe has one aswell. If you don't think man has a overall purpose in life, then why are we even here then? Words like (GOD) and purose where to they originate from?
BentHenny 2 years ago
Finding out that someone had put "it" there in your example is a scientific explanation.
Your almost completely nonsensical BentHenny.
Laevi1337 2 years ago
The shit didn't just show up in the room and you know it, and if it was scientific, well then who said God wasn't behind science. Someone had to create at some point.
BentHenny 2 years ago
Your either a basket case, or your just a troll...
Laevi1337 2 years ago
I would say the same about you, what kind of a person doesn't believe they were created by something of someone?
BentHenny 2 years ago
"what kind of a person doesn't believe they were created by something of someone? "
...seriously?
HAHAHA!!!!
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
Hear this, you stupid and senseless people! You have eyes, but you cannot see. You have ears, but you cannot hear.
Jeremiah 5:21
BentHenny 2 years ago
Is English your first language?
Do you even know this video has nothing to do with your religion!?!?!
Laevi1337 2 years ago
Laevi1337, I wonder if this lost sheep got lost on the way to the priests Happy Time barn with all the others...
I seriously dont know what he thinks he will accomplish talking about such a random tangent on an unrelated video. Poor brain damaged sheep.
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
To the choirmaster. Of David. The fool says in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good.
Psalm 14:1
BentHenny 2 years ago
Jesus said to him, Again it is written, You shall not put the Lord your God to the test. Matthew 4:7
BentHenny 2 years ago
It is written?
Sure, here is something else that has been written:
10 And in the eight hour of the day of Thurs, He cast about the room looking for the chair he had fallen out of. 11 With the unbridled joy of laughter echoing still, he set his gaze upon the scene once more. 12 Thus, and forever still, he marked the posts as SPAM, for they were unrelated to the channel in which he spoke.
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
Proverbs 29:9 ESV / 4 helpful votes
If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.
BentHenny 2 years ago
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and goodwill shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
BentHenny 2 years ago
ok... where is your god right now? i can point out numerous people that god should take out, he can use my binoculars if he likes! bible =no basis of fact..unprovable. it is also a big money maker. i so wish people would wake up to the real world.
dangerousprimate 2 years ago
How long, O simple ones, will you love being simple? How long will scoffers delight in their scoffing and fools hate knowledge?
Proverbs 1:22
BentHenny 2 years ago
Keep quoting from your magical book, kid, yeah... because Circular Logic will TOTALLY convince everyone you are right!
Why dont you go find a Creationist propaganda video to go share yourself on? They would love to hear your intellectual suicide and would actually thank you for vomiting your ignorance in their face.
Not so much here, though.
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
The reason that you would know that the shit got there from someone or something is because you have shit yourself and odds are you have seen other animals shit. If you had never seen shit before and saw it in a room, it would take some scientific investigation and simply saying "goddoneit" doesn't cut it for me. And I don't equate there being a god to me having purpose. Purpose is something I define for myself.
mfaulkner12 2 years ago
You did not create the meaning of the word purpose. If (GOD) is not real then who came up with the general idea that there is one? So you are saying there is no reason, no meaning, no purpose behind science? Science just starting happening one day and has never stopped since? Sciendce made itself?
BentHenny 2 years ago
"Sciendce made itself? "
HAHHAHAHA!!!
What, are you 12 or something??
Go play with the Creationists. You are in the wrong channel.
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
You are not in charge of me! So science made itself. You believe that life just came to be, you actually belive science and life were not even created. In other words your fucking crazy! lol
BentHenny 2 years ago
Amazing how you project your Creationist bullshit onto others, creating a strawman logical fallacy, and then proceed to laugh at it.
Dont you realize that you are laughing at yourself when you do this, because it is a projection of your own psychological issues?
So... all that effort, just to laugh at yourself. Nice.
That really does show just how "fucking crazy" you are.
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
You are on your own little planet now buddy! Whats the force behind science in general?
BentHenny 2 years ago
The force behind science??
I thought that was obvious!
Its Lord Xenu working with the Flying Spaghetti Monster to fabricate the stuff of the universe!
Didn't you know that? You can divine it yourself! All ya do is get a good friend and a bowl of pasta. Stare into the bowl and pray for revelation.
If it doesn't work, then that means you arn't a believer.
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
You don't believe in a (GOD), so what do you believe in? What science do you go by that explains your existence here on earth and more important whats the energy/force that is running your science and theories. How did your theory begin?
BentHenny 2 years ago
There are a few different questions there, it might take a few comments. First: people needed a way to explain natural phenomenon around them. What causes the earthquakes, the sun to rise, the tides? Gods.
Second: The purpose of science is to study and learn more about the natural world around us. People have always wanted to do that. Scientific inquiry as we now understand it probably originated in ancient Greece. Many people attribute it to Aristotle and Theophrastus.
mfaulkner12 2 years ago
Were did Aristotle and Theophrastus all get there ideas from and whats running those ideas and whats running earthquakes, the sun and the tides and nateral phenomenon. Whats running nature and how did nature come to be in general. I don't want to know what people think runs nature just please you tell me what runs nature in general and how it come into play?
BentHenny 2 years ago
Nature runs itself. It's too broad a question to answer. If you'd like to know how a specific thing runs I'd be happy to tell you and if I don't know I can certainly point you in the right direction. But so far as I can tell there is no force that controls everything.
mfaulkner12 2 years ago
What started nature?
BentHenny 2 years ago
Well, I'm not entirely sure. Do you have a theory of how it happened, and some evidence to back that theory up? Because if you're just going to say "goddoneit" then I don't really care. If you have some EVIDENCE that is what happened, please, share it with the world and accept your Nobel Prize.
mfaulkner12 2 years ago
So your not entirely sure what started nature, but you are sure it wasn't a higher power aka (GOD) who is a spirit? Your saying there was no creator of nature it just made itself.
BentHenny 2 years ago
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm not saying that I know it wasn't a god. I'm saying if you're going to claim that, you have to provide evidence just like everyone else. Do you have some evidence?
mfaulkner12 2 years ago
The only evidence I have is common sense, we have learned from science that things don't create themself so how could nature makes itself without a creator.
BentHenny 2 years ago
Again, "common sense" doesn't cut it. To illustrate, point me to something that we have seen "created". All that we have observed is energy being reorganized. Reorganized into matter, and back into energy. But we have never seen anything "created". So how could we use common sense to draw conclusions about something we have never seen happen?
mfaulkner12 2 years ago
The oppsite of common sense to me is stupid! Nothing created energy & nature & general science they just always were there. Sure
BentHenny 2 years ago
No no, I'm not saying common sense doesn't have it's place, I'm simply saying that this isn't it. Again, please give me some evidence that this was "created" and I will follow it. I'm not saying that it was always there. I'm not saying anything. I make no comment on a question without evidence being presented. As far as science being created. As I said, scientific inquiry in the way we now think of it was most likely thought up by Greek philosophers.
mfaulkner12 2 years ago
Who created the Greek philosophers and who put the idea into there head about creation? Who created the idea of being created?
BentHenny 2 years ago
Energy just was did not have a maker, no such thing as a maker of anything. Just because people talk about Tom Cruise doesn't mean he is real, because I have never met him so there is no evidence to me he is real, plus tv might just be made up as well as everything else.
BentHenny 2 years ago