,they said: Jiro said that Aaron and he admire and like Rainie Yang as of For Calvin she also admire Rainie because she like what Rainie show her personality in the tv..just wu zun only like Ariel...
Calvin said although he never acted with Ariel but they attended acting class together she is very professional although she is very experienced but she still practised the basic routine with everybody. Jiro said it was enjoyable and comfortable to act with Ariel as she will do her homework(prepare) before filming so she could bring the co stars into the role very quickly.
Wu Chun said although Ella and Ariel are very famous they are still very humble and take their acting seriously thus he.
the host said yan ya lun likes ariel but calvin said arron likes rainie because he said ya lun xi huan yang cheng lin..i think he admires both of them...
first he says "the one that likes Ariel Lin is clearly me", followed by fangirl scream, then he says hes just kidding. The host then asks him about him and Ariel, and he says its cuz ppl get too engrossed in the drama, and cuz hes chasing Ariel in the drama ppl think its real. Then they just go back and forth talking about how professional and serious Ariel Lin is about acting.
its rainie yang that arron loves the most..im sure till now aaron sitll admire/loves rainie yang..he's keeping his love for rainie inside his heart..pls support aaron for rainie yang..thanks
I'm confused, some people are saying that Calvin was the one who likes Rainie & that everyone else likes Ariel & Wu Chun likes Ella too, others are saying that everyone likes Rainie & only Wu Chun likes Ariel, & others are saying that Aaron only liked Rainie, & then others are saying that Calvin didn't say anything & that Aaron wasn't there so he didn't say anything? Damn confusing, Sub please? I love Ariel though, so if they all admire her, that's great :)
I think I know roughly... Wuzun said Ariel and Ella are both great actresses and Jiro think so too since they both worked with them before in (Tokyo Juliet, Hana Kimi, ISWAK) And Calvin said that even though he never worked with them before and he thinks that they're great actresses too! (That's what this video says)
On the other hand, Aaron from the video I saw before! He thinks that Rainie is a great actress and singer! ^^ Hope that helps!
Oh my gosh, thank you very much! I was so confused about what they were saying and what was happening, and now someone (you) has finally translated for me :)
Well, they already won the bid to have the olympics there, so everything was already planned. Vancouver, Canada gets the 2010 winter olympics, and london, England gets the 2012 summer olympics and Sochi, Russia gets the 2014 winter olympics. They don't just choose a year before. They also have a bid logo, and then they come out with the official logo after they win the bid.
yah yah., there is a logo at the back "Beijing 2008"..So this interview is recently happened this year-2008..But why, the date he/she added is November 14, 2006?.. ngek! haha..JiRO is soo handsome && SupErRRRR Cute..Wo Ai Ni Da Dong..
i think this happened recently...please correct me if im wrong because i noticed the 2008 olympics logo at the back...so i pressume that this happened this year 2008...
omgg you guys have to calm down lol they said that aaron yan likes rainie (everyone noe that ^^ so cute!) and then jiro and wuzun both really admire ariel cuz shes very good at acting and very proffesional. and wu zun only said that he only worked with two ppl in dramas before and thats ella and ariel and he learnt a lot and he admires both of them
Hi people, i understand what they're talking about because im half taiwanese,they said: Jiro said that Aaron and he admire and like Rainie Yang as of For Calvin she also admire Rainie because she like what Rainie show her personality in the tv..just wu zun only like Ariel...
jiro & calvin didnt say tht they like rainie they say is arron is d one who admire rainie...but another way round fahrenheit they all admire ariel of her profesionality...
@gentallan thank you so much.. i really imagine calvin and rainie!! hahaha i think they are cute together!! but i still like jiro with rainie or rainie with aaron!!
Actually, the host said in the beginning that Arron said Jiro liked Ariel, and then Jiro said "I like Ariel...*laughter* I mean Ah Jin liked..." It was confusing, b/c the host simultaneously asked who Arron liked, and Calvin answered that Arron liked Rainie. Then Jiro talked about working with Ariel, and Calvin said that Ariel is very professional, because she'll help out all of the newbies with the basics (Calvin had a cameo in ISWAK).
when they talk about the actresses, they said that arron likes rainie, and calvin didn't really say anyone. he just commented on rainie, saying that even though he hasn't worked with her she's a very accomplished actress who's filmed/worked on many dramas.
wait I tried understanding them....i thought arron iked rainie why did the host said he like ariel?? I thought jiro said he like ariel...and wu zu picked ariel too no??
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They're just saying how Ariel a really good actress and they admire people like her. Even though Jiro and Wu Zun both have chased after Ariel it doesn't mean they like her in that way but she really motivates them to work harder and be inspired by her. They're saying that Ariel shows them that you always have to work harder and no matter what you have to be humble.
Man,where are the eng subs?!!!????
leighbricken 2 weeks ago
,they said: Jiro said that Aaron and he admire and like Rainie Yang as of For Calvin she also admire Rainie because she like what Rainie show her personality in the tv..just wu zun only like Ariel...
cutie9134 3 months ago
Calvin said although he never acted with Ariel but they attended acting class together she is very professional although she is very experienced but she still practised the basic routine with everybody. Jiro said it was enjoyable and comfortable to act with Ariel as she will do her homework(prepare) before filming so she could bring the co stars into the role very quickly.
Wu Chun said although Ella and Ariel are very famous they are still very humble and take their acting seriously thus he.
ethl313 1 year ago 4
i heard ella, what did chunnie say bout his ella <3 :)
KujoGirl 1 year ago
can someone pls sub this..
YukineSenritsu 1 year ago 3
traduccion........... q lindos se ven..... peero no entiendo nada
Bunnyofmoon 1 year ago
can any one translate plsss
4april8 1 year ago
no entiendo ni madre !!
canelita1213 2 years ago
how come aaron not around????
adeqsetan 2 years ago
aww aaron likes ariel.
freestyle095 2 years ago
Im a chinese major university student so heres my translation.
0:09-0:10 - Yan Ya Lun Ta Xi Huan Lin Yi Chen = Therefore Arron Yan likes Ariel Lin (she is his favurite actress)
0:25-0:27 - Wo Xi Huan Yang Cheng Lin - I like Rainie Yang (Calvin)
They all admire ariel. Thats all i could make out.
lillyrain01 2 years ago
the host said yan ya lun likes ariel but calvin said arron likes rainie because he said ya lun xi huan yang cheng lin..i think he admires both of them...
iloveeeteuk2 2 years ago 2
yeah your right. Its hard to hear that part though cause Jiro talks over the top. Thanks for picking that up for me.
Yeah arron's fav actress is Ariel but hes always admired Rainie =)
thanks
lillyrain01 2 years ago
no problem i am chinese in high school 3 yrs now
iloveeeteuk2 2 years ago
@lillyrain01 but i thought arron liked rainie yang what happened???
Cambodiangirl1 2 years ago
Arron does like Rainie, but he also admires Ariel.
lillyrain01 2 years ago 2
aaron likes rainieee.... sniff
LucizzlegirL 2 years ago
In this video it says Arron likes Ariel, which is true she is his favourite actress.
Though we all know that he has mentioned he admires Rainie on Wo Ai Hei Se Hui.
lillyrain01 2 years ago
Where's Aaron???? =[
azncookieo3o 2 years ago
taiwan because his leg
kadajcool132 2 years ago 2
OMG wu chun allways talks about ella !!!
lamaslinda13 2 years ago 3
hindi ko maintindihan!!!
hahaha
yian818 2 years ago 4
he also work with angela right~ *wu zun
pinkish7 2 years ago
ahhh jiroo ehhh yes him an ariel would make a great couple though hehe in my oppionion :D
sparrowgirl84 2 years ago 5
can someone tell me wat jiro is saying????
rainiemike1fan 2 years ago
first he says "the one that likes Ariel Lin is clearly me", followed by fangirl scream, then he says hes just kidding. The host then asks him about him and Ariel, and he says its cuz ppl get too engrossed in the drama, and cuz hes chasing Ariel in the drama ppl think its real. Then they just go back and forth talking about how professional and serious Ariel Lin is about acting.
hitmanabcde 2 years ago
oh ok i thought he says yan chenling so i thought his talking about rainie yang
rainiemike1fan 2 years ago 2
its rainie yang that arron loves the most..im sure till now aaron sitll admire/loves rainie yang..he's keeping his love for rainie inside his heart..pls support aaron for rainie yang..thanks
norma1621 2 years ago
yea i hope so too ^.^
i always dream about that aaron and rainie become a couple
"Prince of Cuteness + Princess of Cuteness = Cutest Love Ever" xD
but i also love guilun, but i still prefer rainie than gui gui :D
CuTe8Mjnj8Me 2 years ago
yes pls sub.
hgescol 3 years ago
does anyone know where they are? that girl interviewing them doesn't really sound like she's from taiwan...
lals0192 3 years ago
where's aaron?
sleepyhead9012 3 years ago
i think he broke his leg
xdorkified96 3 years ago
Hey, can someone we sub this pretty pretty plz?
iluvmusic714 3 years ago 20
translate please... i love Jiro. .. and ariel lin... i am peruvian... and love all about ISWAK
ccsakuralove 3 years ago 8
WHERES AARON?!!
xcandyxl0v3rx 3 years ago
he pulled a ligament
purgleangel 2 years ago
Jiro is soo cute playing with the little bird doll~~ ^^
lamlamlover 3 years ago 3
plz sub that..cnt understand wat their sayin
kewtiepiesandy 3 years ago 4
o can you get this subed?
gozooka 3 years ago 4
does jiro lik ariel??
pls reply asap.. cuz i dont relli understand
candiezgurl 3 years ago
where is another person?i thought their were 4 of them.
BFFnhe 3 years ago
farenheit so kawaii <3
ginxbby 3 years ago
I'm confused, some people are saying that Calvin was the one who likes Rainie & that everyone else likes Ariel & Wu Chun likes Ella too, others are saying that everyone likes Rainie & only Wu Chun likes Ariel, & others are saying that Aaron only liked Rainie, & then others are saying that Calvin didn't say anything & that Aaron wasn't there so he didn't say anything? Damn confusing, Sub please? I love Ariel though, so if they all admire her, that's great :)
lilygiang 3 years ago 2
I think I know roughly... Wuzun said Ariel and Ella are both great actresses and Jiro think so too since they both worked with them before in (Tokyo Juliet, Hana Kimi, ISWAK) And Calvin said that even though he never worked with them before and he thinks that they're great actresses too! (That's what this video says)
On the other hand, Aaron from the video I saw before! He thinks that Rainie is a great actress and singer! ^^ Hope that helps!
chocoxice 3 years ago 6
Oh my gosh, thank you very much! I was so confused about what they were saying and what was happening, and now someone (you) has finally translated for me :)
lilygiang 3 years ago
Lol!! ^^ Well, I'm glad I could help!
chocoxice 3 years ago
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bigfatbelly123 3 years ago
calvin looks so shuai here hahah
envyh 3 years ago
Uh, how is this added in 2006 when the background is Beijing 2008? *confuzo* ..two years.
MsDeath 3 years ago
Well, they already won the bid to have the olympics there, so everything was already planned. Vancouver, Canada gets the 2010 winter olympics, and london, England gets the 2012 summer olympics and Sochi, Russia gets the 2014 winter olympics. They don't just choose a year before. They also have a bid logo, and then they come out with the official logo after they win the bid.
cookiechickiefudge 3 years ago
Thanks for informing me. :)
MsDeath 3 years ago
That was just a promotional poster for the Olympics
Hebeboyz 3 years ago
Dude, can you upload it with subs?
garfieldcookie 3 years ago 2
was wu zun blushing when he said ella?
berrysugary 3 years ago 3
what are they saying? can anyone translate?
who is talking a bout who?
wateverlarh0ii 3 years ago 4
can u plz put an English sub to this?. . .
pleazzze. . .
thanx
La13raine 3 years ago 6
English sub plz..
La13raine 3 years ago 2
can u plz put an English sub to this?. . . pleazzze...thanx
La13raine 3 years ago 2
who did they choose??
hiaziry 3 years ago
aaron chose ariel, jiro chose rainie, i think calvin admired ariel and wu chun didnt really choose one he kinda chose both ariel and ella
SweetieJoJo278 3 years ago
correction. Jiro chooses Ariel and Calvin chooses Rainie. And wuchun doens't say much.
lilithao 3 years ago 4
which ella was he talking about? whats ella's last name that he was talking about?
pinkstrawberry6 3 years ago
ella from S.H.E
her last name is chen
SweetieJoJo278 3 years ago
ohh i thought it was ella koon from the hong kong tvb
pinkstrawberry6 3 years ago
wheres aaaarrronnnn??? ;(
itsJSTher 3 years ago
i think he was recovering from his leg injury
T3MP0R2NC3 3 years ago
Ads for the 2008 Olympics were out long before this year even began. :)
xxCourtieCakesxx 3 years ago 2
yah yah., there is a logo at the back "Beijing 2008"..So this interview is recently happened this year-2008..But why, the date he/she added is November 14, 2006?.. ngek! haha..JiRO is soo handsome && SupErRRRR Cute..Wo Ai Ni Da Dong..
alandians 3 years ago 5
Their talking is a bit fuzzy, I can't make out what they're saying. Who chose who?
StarlightStudio 3 years ago 3
this needs subs!!
please!!
CrazyMe012 3 years ago 5
aww...
Aaron Yan is not here.
I think it's the time
when he had his injury.
XxSapphire05xX 3 years ago
i think this happened recently...please correct me if im wrong because i noticed the 2008 olympics logo at the back...so i pressume that this happened this year 2008...
XJDCprideX 3 years ago
hehe this was added: November 14, 2006 =) cant believe It Started With A kiss aired two years ago! I stil love it now!
MSshan123 3 years ago 2
yh! i notice as well ages ago but thats so cool!hehe!
FahrenheitareCool 3 years ago
he didn't mention angela zhang in romantic princess
naturallysadie 3 years ago
please add subtitles
josephvina 3 years ago 3
i love these guys...
they're so fucking sexy!!!
even though i don't know what the heck they're saying!
eeyorelm09 3 years ago 5
..,'GOSH!!! JIRO SOOO CUTE...
PrettyGhurlz 3 years ago 2
omgg you guys have to calm down lol they said that aaron yan likes rainie (everyone noe that ^^ so cute!) and then jiro and wuzun both really admire ariel cuz shes very good at acting and very proffesional. and wu zun only said that he only worked with two ppl in dramas before and thats ella and ariel and he learnt a lot and he admires both of them
Monkeycraze 3 years ago 6
ha ha...he didn't mention barbie...
or was this before then?
eeyorelm09 3 years ago
@eeyorelm09 barbie?? you mean angela??
misakichii 1 year ago
yay they admire arile lin i love ariel lin she is so good at acting and she is good at singing oh and rianie yang they are both awsome
abigailjanet 3 years ago 25
this was november of 2006 and hana kimi was aired december 2006? am i right? please correct me.
jezika009 3 years ago
what?!?
wu zun like ariel?!?
i can't beleive it or i dont beleive it!
i thought wu zun likes ella?!?
pls..add subs..plss..i beg you..
Nnyph 3 years ago
Yeah I agree with Nnyph
Please add subs!
...we're begging you...
PrincessMusiclover 3 years ago
lol just becuase u watched hana kimi doesent mean he like ella and beside jiro stated you are too into the drama and think theat she is thier lover
khiem500 3 years ago
lolz
i watched an interview with wu chun and he said that he LIKE ella>?!
and now! he said that he like ariel?!?
what's that?!?
Nnyph 3 years ago
Hi people, i understand what they're talking about because im half taiwanese,they said: Jiro said that Aaron and he admire and like Rainie Yang as of For Calvin she also admire Rainie because she like what Rainie show her personality in the tv..just wu zun only like Ariel...
gentallan 3 years ago 2
why? wuchun choose ella! whyyyyyyyyyyy???? im CE FOREVER. im disapointed. huhuhu. T_T
chloe0828 3 years ago
jiro & calvin didnt say tht they like rainie they say is arron is d one who admire rainie...but another way round fahrenheit they all admire ariel of her profesionality...
Lydiaz 3 years ago 2
@gentallan thank you so much.. i really imagine calvin and rainie!! hahaha i think they are cute together!! but i still like jiro with rainie or rainie with aaron!!
cutie9134 7 months ago
Wheres Aaron
LovenKissesxoxo 4 years ago
hmmm interesting calvin and ariel...
punay17 4 years ago
wu zun an hoo?-
jiro hoo?-
Calvin hoo?-
Quyenten 4 years ago
i can't make head or tail what they are talking 'bout. will someone pls translate it into English, hix
cumeodaidam 4 years ago 4
love ariel lin
TVBAngel 4 years ago 3
Wu Zun praised both Ella and Ariel (notice he said "tamen" = they), because they're big in the acting arena, but still so modest about their fame.
peaceTrose 4 years ago 3
Actually, the host said in the beginning that Arron said Jiro liked Ariel, and then Jiro said "I like Ariel...*laughter* I mean Ah Jin liked..." It was confusing, b/c the host simultaneously asked who Arron liked, and Calvin answered that Arron liked Rainie. Then Jiro talked about working with Ariel, and Calvin said that Ariel is very professional, because she'll help out all of the newbies with the basics (Calvin had a cameo in ISWAK).
peaceTrose 4 years ago 4
fahrenheit*
ks96119 4 years ago
yea but he said it before somewhere else on a tv show thing
xaurorajulietx 4 years ago 3
he did say tht he admired rainie on wo ai hei se hui talk show...
Sallia 4 years ago 3
calvin! :]
dbskpassion 4 years ago 3
that host sounds like she's from beijing because of her accent
tor3rider 4 years ago
i dont understand yo no hablo taiwanes!!! subs plis! xiexieni
lpag119 4 years ago
i think the host asked if aaron like rainie and the jiro agreed. its not true that jiro like rainie.
janah11 4 years ago
jiro's is: ariel lin
arron's is: rainie yang
wu zun's is: ella
Washuii 4 years ago 3
That's not Arron- it's Calvin.
phantomwitch 4 years ago 3
when they talk about the actresses, they said that arron likes rainie, and calvin didn't really say anyone. he just commented on rainie, saying that even though he hasn't worked with her she's a very accomplished actress who's filmed/worked on many dramas.
musicalkiddie094life 4 years ago 2
how come jiro did not choose ella?.. tsk.
tiffanybaboy 3 years ago
not a surprise wu zun "admires" ella
AznXMiche 4 years ago 5
wait I tried understanding them....i thought arron iked rainie why did the host said he like ariel?? I thought jiro said he like ariel...and wu zu picked ariel too no??
fahrenheitlover247 4 years ago
technically calvin didnt pick anyone.
but they all said good stuff abt all of them
jiro=ariel
wu zhun=ella
arron=rainie
calvin=go with the flow
xaurorajulietx 4 years ago 3
thx for telling me<33!!!
fahrenheitlover247 4 years ago 3
no problem
xaurorajulietx 4 years ago 2
who said they admire who?? can someone translate pls?? who did calvin pick and chun??
fahrenheitlover247 4 years ago 4
jiro picked yang cheng lin/rainie yang
blahblahyuyu 4 years ago
:(( could anyone plsss tell me what they are talking about?? who pick WHOOOM??
alexMhuong 4 years ago 2
What did Jiro say in the beginning that everybody laughed?
xhowtheycharm 4 years ago 2
arron?
shoua07 4 years ago 2
QUESTION: i dont speak chinese.. but im jus interested who they chose as the actress they each admire...
who chose who??
SincerelyJackie 4 years ago 3
Calvin Chen doesnt relle look like Zhang Dong Liang.... but maybe he does...weird dat u would think dat
toushiroizmaihubby 4 years ago 2
Too bad you couldn't put any sub titles
JULIEHIEN 4 years ago 7
you know the other boy next to jiro was he from smieling pasta reply back please x
xlilkarenjadetranx 4 years ago
no he isn't, he just looks like nicholas teo a bit..
SupaSawkie 4 years ago
AWW COOL! THANKSS X
xlilkarenjadetranx 4 years ago
Ohh the "joke" Jiro made at the beginning ... maybe it isn't a joke after all =P
jlshadoww 4 years ago
hey isn't that ah lin(ariel's admirer) in ISWAK? wow if it is i didn't know he was a singer..he's hot and so are his band members :D
lad33x 4 years ago
Yes, he is!!
I know, rite!??!1 xD
Meeeh0n0You 4 years ago
You didn't no? and that's "ah jin" not "ah lin"金
sweetheartfrog 4 years ago
haha yeah i noticed that after i wrote it but i knew you'd get the point :p
lad33x 4 years ago
aiyoh, what r they saying? can't understand a word :(
domesticgoddessnot 4 years ago
sum one translated it in the earlier comments
lalalandgrl87 4 years ago
geez, i didn't see that. thx for telling me, girl :D
domesticgoddessnot 4 years ago
haha ur welcome. it happens to evrybody ^.^
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azngrl924 4 years ago
i have no idea what they're saying...but they look soooooooooooooooo hot!!!
kaboyang 4 years ago 2
Hey does Arron put on make up ??? he's eye lashes are like so girly!!!
sweetheartfrog 4 years ago
arron isnt in there..theres only jiro calvin and wu zun....
kelly2lin 4 years ago
Ok,my bad =)
sweetheartfrog 3 years ago
Sorry!I mean Jiro Wang
sweetheartfrog 4 years ago
celviiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin
miyuI3I 4 years ago
calvin!!!!
jinxchixy 4 years ago
err..I hate that woman's voice.!! Her beijing accent is soo freaking annoying!!
ziyanli 4 years ago
Yea!!! I agree with u
sweetheartfrog 4 years ago
wat????? don't arron admire Rainie? When it turn to Ariel? lol I love Ariel better though. lol Go Arron!
AsianFuse 4 years ago 2
he loves rainie it's just that ariel is his favorite actress
bbnn90 4 years ago 2
i like calvin
noona91 4 years ago
wow~ My fav group likes my fav actress!! That's awesome^^~ keke~~
tvxqsaraeng 4 years ago
i was thinking the same thing!
bbnn90 4 years ago
awe aaron and ranie would look soooo cute together
Xopinkxloverxo 4 years ago
is there any translations to this show? if there is can you please let me know plz thx!!! bye
SailorMoonchick8 4 years ago
ARRON LOVE FOREVER [=
peacefulsmile 4 years ago
o thats cool that ariel motivates them to work harder lol
rogenica1 5 years ago
sub?:( dont understand mandarin :/
gedix 5 years ago
why there is no ya lun...but wu zun is rocks too. i love ariel too!
jeslyn92 5 years ago
calvin looks better and better when i watch him more ;D
YA LUN!! <3
bequitejoyce 5 years ago
I love Wu Zun!! He is so hot! luv them
cuteangel48 5 years ago
calvin does not look like micheal jackson...wtf..
anywaise HES cute!
wu zun and jiro is too!!! lol
HeArTxChenYiRu 5 years ago 3
aww translations.. :(
aznpear72 5 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
is it just me or does the guy in the middle look like michael jackson.
-_-
ohnoxheartbreak 5 years ago
LOL
maybe X]
peacefulsmile 4 years ago
LMFAO! that what i thought since the first time i saw him!!!
XD
xhowtheycharm 4 years ago
wu zun also likes ella =]
TMC219 5 years ago
They all admire Ariel thats so KEWL!! <33
sammyx3 5 years ago 2
YAYA! I love Ariel.
RiceyThu 4 years ago
me 2!!!
bbnn90 4 years ago
they all have cool hair
mangabunnie 5 years ago
jiro is soooo HOTTT!!! imma cry! huhuhu T_T
kyoote 5 years ago
=]] jiro is soo HOT!
miszjessica 5 years ago
they all like ariel.. hehe <3
amimii 5 years ago 2
They're just saying how Ariel a really good actress and they admire people like her. Even though Jiro and Wu Zun both have chased after Ariel it doesn't mean they like her in that way but she really motivates them to work harder and be inspired by her. They're saying that Ariel shows them that you always have to work harder and no matter what you have to be humble.
imyerhomiexD 5 years ago 4