We can not leave an illegal war. Don't you see how dangerous that is to our country? If we are in a war we need to fight to the end we cant just cower away and then do nothing. That leads to even more un stability.
Illegal? How? What law did the President or Congress break?
Are you just parroting the same old tired CodePink blather?
I'm not saying I support the waste of tax payers money to try and create a just government in a culture that doesnt value justice but how is it illegal???
alieco...so Iraq and Al Qaeda were related how in 2002, or for that matter on 9/11? He was the only one wise enough to set his emotions aside and make the prudent decision about the war in Iraq because he knew it would turn into a quagmire. Thankfully most American's understand that and elected Obama! We finally have a President that's smarter than you are... doesn't that make you the least bit happy to know that the person running it all knows what's better for you than you do?
the argument he used to expose Iraq war voters wrong is timeless. Perhaps if this republic is to last a century, we will always know at what point did we change the force of emotion by the force of reason.
Only someone of Obama's intelligence, judgment, and wisdom could've predicted what has happened in Iraq. The fact that he was against the war when it was unpopular to do so(2002) shows that he will do what he believes is right for America regardless of what the majority of people here thinks. Look at his record and he has been right on every single decision he has made since becoming a politician. Vote for this man this year or you don't love this country and are condemning it fail
Wait if the war was a mistake then why did he say in one of his speeches that out soldiers reduced the violence dramatically in the middle east. If he said that, then obviously he's saying that it was for a good cause. Obama's such an idiot.
Gotta love his judgment and character: he promised to filibuster the fisa bill giving blanket immunity to telecoms for breaking the law and he voted for it. Gotta love the kind of character he has as a former constitutional law professor who vocally opposed the SCOTUS Kennedy case, ignoring a 50 year precedent in case law.
The War is already getting to an end and so we should be focusing on bringing our troops home and cater for them and their families as Obama just said.Bush strategies have failed and is still failing and I guess with Obama on the lead he will push for a quick but careful withdrawal who will return home in fame and glory.Obama's promises does not go only the troops and veterans it expands to all social and political spectrums to make America what it ougth to be.
Iran's Revolutionary Guard IS a terrorist group. Brave American, British, and other coalition forces are dying in Iraq because of the support both logistical and materialistically that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard provides to destabilize the region.
Obama's opposition to the Iraq war was clear from the very beginning.Bush misled the Americans by saying Saddam had WMD which wasn't the case.Obama envisaged and forecasted the aftermath of the war and thats exactly what we are seeing today....
Iraq had WMDs. Iraq had chemical munitions which they used to gas the Kurds before the First Gulf War. As for the situation in Iraq, it has been improving especially since the troop surge which many liberals forecasted and envisaged would FAIL.
There were chemical munitions found scattered throughout Iraq. It simply doesn't matter in which manner they were stacked. They are just as lethal. Saddam and the Baath Party killed THOUSANDS of Kurds with these WMDs.
I'm sorry but you're wrong. I was a staff writer for a newspaper in college last year and we had half an issue devoted just to this topic with supporting pictures. If you'd like I can mail you a copy for proof of the WMDs. (Chemical munitions.)
Staff writer for the college newspaper! Yippee! The chemical munitions found in Iraq amounted to commercial grade insecticides and were all leftovers from GW1 -- this shit has a shelf life you know. There were no "reconstituted nuclear bombs," no "remote guided drones" that could fly the Atlantic and deliver "chemical weapons" on New York, there were no "mobile labs" and there wasn't even weapons grade anthrax like that sent after 911 (ours). wake up.
My point has nothing to do with me writing for a newspaper. I was merely trying to point out that I have photographic evidence to refute your claim that there were no WMDs in Iraq. Chemical munitions are weapons of mass destruction to me. I don't think anyone would want a bunch of terrorists running around with chemical munitions.
Since they're so safe, I'm sure you wouldn't mind parking a few in your garage. I mean they have a shelf life, right? So they must be safe!
#1 - By definition chemical weapons are not a great "weapon of mass destruction." Delivery and deployment are just to hard - fact.
#2 - Saddam Husein couldn't even inflict conventional harm on his neighbors let alone a "WMD" attack on the US.
#3 - Saddam had nothing to do with terrorists.
#4 - Photo evidence backed up by whom? The same administration that lied to get us there in the first place? That war was in the works long before any of this. You are living in their fantasy world.
Army Col. John Chu told the House Armed Services Committee:
"Regardless of (how much material in the weapon is actually chemical agent), any remaining agent is toxic," he said. "Anything above zero (percent agent) would prove to be toxic, and if you were exposed to it long enough, lethal."
#2: WRONG. He killed thousands of his own PEOPLE! He inflicted conventional harm on Iran! He killed thousands of Kurds! Look it up!
LOL! You are a dumb-shit. Expose yourself to enough H20 long enough and that would be lethal too.
Your #2 - Where did he get his initial chem weapons? There are some nice photos of he and Rumsfeld shaking hands in Baghdad if you care to look that up.
If he was so eager to use WMD's on Americans why didn't he use them during GW1(in which I participated) or during the GW2 invasion? Simply because A) he didn't have a desire to and B) he didn't have the effective means to.
Making personal attacks on me and my quoting of an Army Colonel's report to the House Armed Services Committee does not help bolster your position or prove your point.
You are construing and fabricating statements that I never said. I never said that Saddam used WMDs on Americans in GW1. I said that he used them on Kurds and I believe that he used them on Iranians.
23 May-25 May 1988; Iraqi offensive in northern and central sectors recaptures Shalamche using chemical weapons.
I didn't say that you said that he used them on US soldiers. It was a simple question. If Sadam was so delighted by the idea of using WMDs on Americans, what better time to do it than during GW1, or the invasion GW2. He couldn't.
BTW - those new oil contracts with Iraq are again no-bid contracts.
"The no-bid contracts are unusual for the industry, and the offers prevailed over others by more than 40 companies, including companies in Russia, China and India."
The truth always comes to light you Nazi sympathizing test tube baby. I was not surprised to find Nazi videos on your home page. Go sail your facsist BS somewhere else. Ziek Heil, Nazi SWINE.
The same administration that lied to get us there in the first place?
The administration does not have control over every aspect of the coalition and every single photograph that leaves Iraq.
That war was in the works long before any of this.
Yes it was in the works long before this. I agree. I personally think it should have been dealt with back in 1991. We should have gone to Baghdad back in 1991, IMHO.
June 29, 2006 -- The 500 munitions discovered throughout Iraq since 2003 and discussed in a National Ground Intelligence Center report meet the criteria of weapons of mass destruction, the center's commander said here today.
"These are chemical weapons as defined under the Chemical Weapons Convention, and yes ... they do constitute weapons of mass destruction," Army Col. John Chu told the House Armed Services Committee.
LOLROFL! That's what you constitute WMD's and a reason to invade and take the lives of nearly 1 million people? 500 chemical arty shells found over a period of THREE YEARS? I've seen the photographs you are speaking of. 90% of those "munitions" were old, out of date, and had been sitting burried in the sand from GW1. The ONLY reason Sadam was a "threat" is because he selling oil to the Russians, China, and France - period. Please. Wake from your slumber.
Listen buddy, Iraq and Saddam's Baath regime had repeatedly violated INTERNATIONAL UN SANCTIONS since 1991. These are sanctions placed on Iraq not just by the United States, but by members of the United Nations. Secondly, your figure of 1 million is absurd. Did you include the innocent Iraqi Muslim lives that the Islamofascists took in that figure of yours and multiply by 10? The whole oil argument is ludicrous. I'm pretty sure that we get more oil from Canada or Saudi Arabia than Iraq.
June 29, 2006 - Hamdan v. Rumsfeld: The U.S. Supreme Court rules that President George W. Bush's plan to try Guantanamo Bay detainees in military tribunals violates U.S. and international law.
June 19, 2008 - Four Western oil companies are in the final stages of negotiations this month on contracts that will return them to Iraq, 36 years after losing their oil concession to nationalization as Saddam Hussein rose to power.
June 29, 2006 - Hamdan v. Rumsfeld: The U.S. Supreme Court rules that President George W. Bush's plan to try Guantanamo Bay detainees in military tribunals violates U.S. and international law.
OFF TOPIC. SEPARATE ISSUE.
June 19, 2008 - Four Western oil companies are in the final stages of negotiations this month on contracts that will return them to Iraq, 36 years after losing their oil concession to nationalization as Saddam Hussein rose to power.
My reference to the June 29, 2006 story - The U.S. Supreme Court decision on Hamdan v. Rumsfeld was not off topic. That was the REAL story of the day which was eclipsed by your story silly story of the discovery of 500 circa 1980's chem arty shells found burried somewhere in the Iraqi desert along with their aircraft.
Big surprise that they couldn't use their aircraft to deliver chemical munitions like they did against the Kurdish population. It's called AIR SUPERIORITY.
"The personal attack was warranted. :)"
You are not going to convince me that you are right by harassing & making personal attacks against me, going off topic, or by trying to
convince people the the Geneva Convention written in it's original language along with the Hague convention applies to TERRORISTS.
The U.S.'s #1 oil import comes from Canada - then Saudi Arabia - then Mexico. And, Saddam GASSED whole villiages in his own country - hundreds of thousands were killed - mass graves were discovered - he used WMD during his invasion of Kuwait and the war with Iran. Keep heart, matthewjdenn, there's alot of idiots posting on uTube that haven't a clue.
Bush ran on the platform to change Washington DC Look it. He said he will change and use his CEO skills to run the country. Now BO comes in and said DC needs to be changed from ground up using his community organizing skills. God help us!
Most believe Hillary is now campaigning for Sen. John McCain and against Obama. Why not for herself? Because Hillary has already LOST the Nomination for 2008. She knows this, experts know this, & those who aren't brainsless know that Hillary CAN NOT WIN!
Hillary is in this to get her long-time friend John McCain elected. McCain has vowed to only serve one term, as McCain is as old as the DEAD SEA SCROLLS!
McCain will help Hillary in 2012!They've agreed on it!
Sen. Obama was correct from the start, Sen. Clinton has cleared the muddle desseminated about her (very)qualified vote, ... what is the issue? It seems to be personal and superficial with most Americans, who, merely get their 'information' from Tv and youtube soundbites. We are in trouble.
Obama had no intelligence information given to him as he sat in Illinois. Clinton was presented with intelligence (erroneous we NOW know). I'm sure it was a hard decision for everyone. Obama had no vote. He just talked. As he does now...he just talks, and talks, and talks...
Hillary has lost the Nomination. She has NO CHANCE of Winning.
She has run a piss-poor campaign and embarassed herself in the process. Her campaign is bankrupted and she is a horrible manager, a SERIAL LIAR, and a person of no integrity.
Hillary is now working for John McCain, in hopes he can get her back into The White House in 2012, Hillary and Monica Lewinsky, Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones and the like.
So they can continue SCREWING AND LYING to the American people!
Wake up Obama was not privy to the intelligence that the Senators of whom was not then. He is playing Monday morning quarterback.
Obama is being dishonest. Now he's fucked be cause he lacked the judgment to know that Reverend Wright his mentor of 20 years was crazier than a shit house rat.
Hillary is sitting back watching Osama self destruct. This comes as no surprise.
Obama is naive at best. I think he is a racist and perhaps a closet Muslim.
Would you rather, have your government pay your healthcare bill year after year. Or would you rather your government, start researching such projects as a $2000.00 per year solution to family energy needs? The goal being for under $2000.00 a year, a family would have enough energy to power a home, and 2 cars for a year.
What would save you the most money? What result would be the best for America? Please I would love to see America's answers on this.
That's right. Being married to a pilot doesn't automatically qualify one to fly a jet. So much for Hillary's claims of experience. Now 68% of Americans believes that she lies like a carpet, a bad rash for the democrats, she slices and dices democrat party, she cheered when John Kerry did not win in the last election, now she and her two faced husband are running a smear campaign against another fellow democrat! SHAME ON YOU!!!!
Billary and John McShitstain are snakes in the grass slithering around together plotting, scheming, and manipulating the media(Fox,etc.) in a desperate attempt at dragging Barack Obama into the dirt. Like pigs, Hil, Bill, and John are comfortable rolling around in feces....the SPIN STARTS HERE! They are full of foxshit! lol
with regards to Hillary clintons "experience"... k, yes she was a senator. NO she was not a president. being married to a pilot doesnt give you the experience to become a pilot... same with the presidency. go obama!
Why former Labor Secretary Robert Reich endorses Obama:
"I saw the ads" — the negative man-on-street commercials that the Clinton campaign put up in Pennsylvania in the wake of Obama's bitter/cling comments a week ago — "and I was appalled, frankly. I thought it represented the nadir of mean-spirited, negative politics. And also of the politics of distraction, of gotcha politics. It's the worst of all worlds.
I think that out of all the girls I know, i am the only one willing to admit that Hillary stands no chance. Obama clearly has the upper hand no matter what his past is. People grow from their mistakes. obviously.
ShmeeShoo, that is even a better case for Obama u just made. He was one of the only ones because he felt it was not a just or reasonable war, he didnt just o with the flow. That the type of CDR-in-Chief we need.
I just worry about his experience is all, I think Hilary could actually get both parties to work together and atleast get some good things done before her term ended. Obama would most likely have trouble getting anything done at all, everything would be a battle for him. He was right about the war, but there is so much more to being president.
She is tearing the Dem Party a part, because of her self centered ego. She has created anger and division in her own party. How in the world could she bring both parties together?
what other harm could he possibly do to this country, i dont think he can do any worse than bush has, plus i like the fact thatll he'll pull our troops out within 16months no questions asked and then restore our nation money and global wise, and in terms of hillary bringing both parties together, i highly doubt she could, shes messing up the democratic party enough as it is, imagine if her and the republicans had a disagreement on anything her ego would get in the way of any possible compromise
I don't think you can blame Hilary for her vote in that bill, all elected officials in this country represent the people who elected them. They don't just make descisions because they feel its best, but rather make the choice they believe the voters would support. At that time a overwhelming amount of people believed we should go to war, look at Bush's approval ratings in those early stages. Majority of America was for war, so we went to war. Not because they voted for it.
I know, but i'm just saying as voters we were all responsible for that war. Not just the congress members that represented us in casting a yes vote to it. Majority of America supported the war at the time afterall. Now that the war is seen as unwinnable, and is largely unpopular, we blame the congress members that casted the vote we all supported? We are all to blame, all Americans that supported bush in the initial stages are to blame and thats the majority of us.
Im annoyed with th esupposrt barak gets but who the hell is he really we all love the idea of who he could be but the question of who he really is still has to be answered.
Barack is a Joke, an Empty Suit. He claims to be a 'Uniter' and a true Unifier he will bring EVERYONE from both sides together we are all told.
I challenge you to Name me One Piece of Legislation that Barack has Reached across the Aisle and worked on successfuly to get passed through ? Name me anything nationally of substance that he was a key member of and had significance on ? YOU CANT BECAUSE THERE ARE NONE.
Why is everyone so 'Mezmerized' by all this sugar coated fluff ?
Is this the same woman who said: "we acted on faulty intelligence" and later said "this is George Bush's war...this was always George Bush's war..."? That there was "stuff" in Iraq? The word is Weapons of Mass Destruction that they did not have.
yeah, and don't forget her voting for NAFTA and then saying she "hoped it wouldn't pass"!!
inconsistent.
that's exactly the kind of lack of integrity and straightforwardness that got your country into trouble. i think the world, as well as america, could do without such people in power. vote obama.
I think you are talking about the Bankruptcy bill, just to clarify, but either way you are right. Obama said,"usually if you don't want something to pass you vote against it."
It seems as though there is a lot that Hillary cannot talk her way out of lately like NAFTA and supposed sniper fire in Bosnia back in 1996. Character is an important consisderation in picking a President AND isn't it obvious that the Clinton's lack character?
Obama is a man in his time. It is seldom that people are born and raised and step into the place at the right time. Martin Luther King who fought for equality, Mahatma Gandhi, John F Kennedy, Nelson Mandela and many others. Unfortunately, because the wickedness of the world abounds, we know what happened to a majority of the enlightened. Let us all pray hard for America. What it was able to bear with the assassination of Kennedy and King will not be easy if they touch the anointed this time.
Another thing I hvae to point out. Clinton stated she has always been a critic of NAFTA. Recently, White House documents were released that she was an ardent advocate for NAFTA. She held at least five meetings to strategize about how to win congressional approval of the deal. She blatantly lied. What's her defense? THIS person cannot be voted into office.
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ok so after 911? were we just supposed to fucking sit there and not do anything about it? ofcourse we had to fight back. just because hillary clinton voted to go to war doesnt mean she planned for it to last this long.
uhm first of all nobody even knows who caused 9/11 bin laden denied it everytime he was asked some say its the taliban others say its a conspiracy nobody knows but it led us into a war with afganistan idiot iraq was a country the invaded because they were scared of sadam hussein hilary was spineless and agreed with the bush administrations flawwed plans so dont try and defend an obvious fault on her part
I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.
Bad judgement is not a good thing in presidency. when Bush tryed to jump start the economy, he had no idea what he was doing. the economy works when the lower class spend money on neccesities which gives to the middle class which then spends on neccesities and luxurys to fund the middle and high class. it is a circular economy. a few thousand will be used up in a few weeks and then what? its like trying to jump start a car that has no fuel.
another point i would like to make is that hillary always says she can lead the military on day one. how may i ask will she do that when she has not spent a single day in her life leading any military force?How, when she shows the bad judgement to vote for the war in iraq? and how, when she shows the immaturity to try and claim that the bill for war was a bill for "resolution" when it clearly said "AUTHORIZATION OF MILITARY FORCE IN IRAQ?" Barrack voted against the war. That is judgment people.
Hillary, like Bill Clinton is clueless on national defense. Both Bill & Hillary will do and say whatever they have to to win votes. Hillary voted for the war and voted against giving our military extra armor and weapons. She clearly wants us to lose.
im black and if i were him id do the same as would anyone else. he doesnt claim to be of the lower class black upbringing or does he try to fit in or identify with them, people just assume so because he is black.
It just so happens that Obama was right in this case, but really, there were legitimate reasons to go to war. Almost 80 percent of the Senate voted in favor of the war: this wasn't Hillary being stupid, this was a reasonable mistake of the entire United States Senate.
It's easy to have 20/20 hindsight, and Obama just got lucky on this one.
That is not true. It was not a reasonable mistake, as much a clear example of the will of the political establishment. It is a perfect example of how a majority of democrats and republicans will blow with the wind in Washington. Even the press was intimidated into supporting the war. In 2002, I had the same judgement as Obama. I agreed that Saddam was a horrible tyrant, but timing to me is everything.
Obama will not waste our soldiers' lives. He did not just "get lucky." No one did.
According to page 294 of Obama's Audacity of Hope, "Like most analysts, I assumed that Saddam had chemical and biological weapons and coveted nuclear arms."
During a July 2004 interview on Meet the Press when asked how he would have voted on the Iraq resolution, Obama answered "I don't know...There's not much of a difference between my position on Iraq and George Bush's position at this stage."
2006- HE SAID, "I'm always careful to say that I was NOT in the Senate, so PERHAPS the reason I thought it was such a bad idea was that I didn't have the benefit of US intelligence. And for those who did, it MIGHT have led to a different set of choices."
i fully agree. its about analysis. the senate did not analyze, they just voted for the majority. Barrack did not. he voted against the war that would cause billions each day and thousands of casualties. those billions should be invested in the economy, in healthcare, and in clean fuel. barrack had the judgement to choose not to vote for war and the hillary campaign will just have to stop trying to cover up hillarys mistakes. we dont need another bush. we need change. vote Barrack 08 for change.
Notice how Hillary stumbles when you take away the Hillary plants with the planted questions? She has had 20 debates with Obama and lost everytime. No wonder she said words mean nothing. Or is it because her words mean nothing. Remember when Hillary promised 250,000 new jobs for Buffalo, NY and the whole state, especially Buffalo showed a deficit? Indeed, Hillary's words are worthless.
you can tell barack is different by 2 things. 1, he runs an honest campaign that does not partake in the dirty politics that hillarys does even when attacked by her ads and speeches. 2, his political history shows that he thinks about the people and he has very good judgement. he voted against the war in iraq which i think many will agree is one of the biggest political blunders in history. who voted for the war? hilary. yet she always makes excuses about how"the bill wasnt clear" Obama ftw.
honest campaign? You mean misleading flyers? You mean using the race card to turn black people away from Hillary? How about running an Ad in florida against DNC agreements? How bout perpetuating the ferraro news? Also how bout using his wife to directly attack hillary so he doesn't have to? Or how about trying to destroy her records by belittling her experience?
what do u mean by race card? all obama has ever said about race was that all races should be united under one america. just because he appeals to other racial groups, doesnt mean that he is tricking them to vote for him. this behavior is typical of the hilary campaign. you take barracks good qualitys, and then say that hes all talk because he is a good orator, or that all blacks will vote for him because he has an african american heritage.stop using worthless criticisms to justify your point.
Maybe Hitlery can get her votes counted in Michigan & Florida. She likes to run when there's only one candidate, just like her Hitlery heroes: Stalin, Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Pinochet, Marcos, Pinochet, etc. Hitlery can be our dictator for the 21st century.
history already shows that Hillary redefined what a 1st lady does and going back to Carters admin, she was selected to head the Legal Services Commison which is responsible for providing legal services to the poor, while she was doing that, Obama by his own admission in his book was a "street kid in jakarta"
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what issues does he talk about? I heard him say "we are the change we have been waiting for" ...that doesnt make sense, if we are the change why are we waiting? for him...oh please..dont think so highly of yourself, this guy is full of it!!! his actual voting record does not match his rhetoric, not even close, open your eyes, research from unbiased sources,if you get all your info from his website, thats not an unbiased source.
It's time for a change. It's time to stop the Clinton/Bush criminal junta that has occupied the executive branch since 1981. This is about change from the privileged elite that have dominated government & destroyed its economy. It's time for change, now. It's time for Obama. Go to hell, Hellray.
Barack's entire campaign is premised on his superior judgement, even though he wasn't even in the US Senate at the time of the vote, had no access to Senate intelligence reports and admitted in '04 that he basically agreed with W on the war. He also conceded that had he actually been in the US Senate, he does not now how he would have voted. When he was actually in the senate, he voted against time lines, and continuously voted for funding the war. nuff said.
Hillary and her team's treatment of treating Obama like a houseboy is dispicable.....People of color are tired of being in the number treated like that Shame on you hillary. Hillary is an abused Mental wife of a cheating husband who can't eve stand up to her husband let alone stand up to Bin Ladin. nuff said.
May we not forget that it was during the Clintons that America had a surplus up to the time when Bill Clinton finished his term. I still believe it takes a Clinton to clean up a Bush mess.
Hillary will scare swing voters to McCain. She will push more dems to Ralph Nader. A vote for Hillary is a vote for McCain. Do you want the Dems to win? Put aside your bias to her and pick the candidate that won't make for "an all red" map (i.e. she'll make Reagan's victories look weak)
lizben, It takes a Clinton to clean up after a Bush?? By your rationale, we will have to elect another Bush to mess up after a Clinton! Please! This is a ridiculous argument! What unique qualities does "a Clinton" possess to clean up after a Bush? How arrogant of Hillary to suggest only a Clinton can do the job!!
liz, focus on the fact that it will take a whole government to keep our country going. Hillary cannot do this, as she CAN NOT be elected. She won't get swing voters, she'll scare off her own democrats.
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Mo, disagree. Hillary is our best chance at the swing vote in the large electoral college states Dems need most like Ohio. BO is getting delegates in small states that will go red and he is becoming more polarizing. Check out exit polls in Texas and Ohio.
or was the economy going well because of Bill? Its just a coincidence that following George H we had a recession, and that right now we are heading for a craaazy recession? Foreclosures up, unemployment up, inflation high, household savings down. Don't bore me with that "dot com recession" nonsense either. That whole thing was fueled by wall street speculation. Thank god bill clinton fostered technological development under his historically succesful administration. Can you say surplus?
jano, the "personal" behavior of Bill Clinton IS an issue! What will happen to Hillary's presidency when he is caught cheating again? Who can guarantee this scenario won't occur? Knowing the Republicans, they would use his indiscretions as a way to question her authority as president. They'll ask, if she can't keep her man in line, how can she control her country? I'm not saying that would be fair -- I'm just making a prediction.
EKSartist, that is my point that who knows what he had voted for if he was a member. He spoke he was opposed to war okay. Hillary said he voted for the war to fill the vaccum left by Al Queda during the 911. But she opposed of having the war too long. And she regretted it and said it in one of their debates.
jano1001, Obama was not a member of congress when the war in Iraq began. He was opposed to the war spoke out against our invasion of Iraq at a time when it was very unpopular to do so. He stuck by his principles, and spoke out for what he believed was right, and that shows his good judgment. Hillary allowed herself to be duped by George W., and voted for allowing the invasion. She has never apologized for her vote,
idtfjmk, yea a political leader needs to have a great and clear vision, just like MM Lee Kuan Yew from Singapore. i'm not sure if h.clinton has, but i can see that obama seems to be a better candidate in this part. fr SG.
Clinton, Boxer donor pleads guilty, Abdul Rehman Jinnah admits he used straw donors to contribute at least $53,000 to the Democratic senators.From a Times Staff Writer LA TIMES
According to page 294 of Obama's Audacity of Hope, "Like most analysts, I assumed that Saddam had chemical and biological weapons and coveted nuclear arms."
During a July 2004 interview on Meet the Press when asked how he would have voted on the Iraq resolution, Obama answered "I don't know...There's not much of a difference between my position on Iraq and George Bush's position at this stage."
Also one thing the Clintons will not tell you is that Bush vito his bill for immediate withdrawal from Iraq. Saddam has weapons of course we know that but war was unwise, so are you telling me that Clinton will go after IRAN which she gave BUSH the benefit of a doubt.
IF HILLARY BECOMES PRESIDENT SHE WILL MAKE A LOT OF MISTAKES BECAUSE SHE KEEPS RELYING ON EVERYBODY AND HAS NO CLEAR VISION FOR THE COUNTRY.
OBAMA VISION IS VISION IS CHANGE, UNITY, AND PEACE. Talking to those countries we don't like and the countries we like. THIS WILL EASE ALL THE TENSION AMERICA HAS not just with Iran, Iraq, but also Russia, China, and many more.
Just like her campaign She changes her message everyday. What will She do when She becomes president?
I like how he says how "We're" going to make decisions in the future, as opposed to "I." It shows that his campaign isn't about "Me, me, me" and his tendency to surround himself with the best and brightest. Although I like Hillary, I don't completely see this from her. She also often uses the phrase "I," and talks about what "she's" going to do.
Regardless...even Texas and Ohio...OBAMA is still in the lead. OBAMA2008! The momentum continues for a good race. That is what America is all about. She may have won TX and OH but look at the numbers people. The momentum is in full swing. Keep strong Pres. Obama, we are with you! Vote for Hillary is really a vote for Bill Clinton and driver's licenses for illegal immigrants. I rather have a candidate that cares about my kids!
obama supports drivers license for illegal immigrants. Know your facts. Also if you know politics, right now its not really about the lead, it is about who will cross the finish line and right now it looks like neither. That is why florida and michigan may come into play..or it will be done by superdelegates.
supportinghillary, I'm not upset about Obama's driver's licenses proposal, because I know Obama's concern is about safety, and protecting the country from unlicensed drivers. They're already out there driving on our roads every day, and at least he is trying to make it safer for all of us to drive.
OH no, you cannot see that Hillary has already shown the US what kind of dirty president she would be, the thought of her in office makes me sick, People please dont let the best candidate we ever had slip by, remember Bush Clinton, Bush............com'on folks THINK!!!
because she has the strength and experience thats needed to be president. its not about who dumb college kids think is "cool" its about who has real solutions not pretty words.
kdtv2lvr, I resent your implication that Obama supporters are a bunch of kids who don't know any better than to elect the latest "fad." First, why complain about college students getting excited and involved in politics? I thought college kids were criticized for being apathetic. How dare you suggest their interest in Obama's campaign is meaningless!
Second, the Clintons' base is the working class. Democrats who are college-educated generally prefer Obama. Dumb college kids? I think not!
we're still at war.
Obama has shown the world that he is from the same mold as the fascist George w. Bush
bugsycline 1 year ago
they had a lotta bad stuff. gg clinton
ajcitg2400 2 years ago
you all are sooo easily fooled.
Urbania05 3 years ago
We can not leave an illegal war. Don't you see how dangerous that is to our country? If we are in a war we need to fight to the end we cant just cower away and then do nothing. That leads to even more un stability.
alieco 3 years ago
they will never understand.
Urbania05 3 years ago
Illegal? How? What law did the President or Congress break?
Are you just parroting the same old tired CodePink blather?
I'm not saying I support the waste of tax payers money to try and create a just government in a culture that doesnt value justice but how is it illegal???
espada9 2 years ago
alieco...so Iraq and Al Qaeda were related how in 2002, or for that matter on 9/11? He was the only one wise enough to set his emotions aside and make the prudent decision about the war in Iraq because he knew it would turn into a quagmire. Thankfully most American's understand that and elected Obama! We finally have a President that's smarter than you are... doesn't that make you the least bit happy to know that the person running it all knows what's better for you than you do?
KyndestKid 2 years ago
the argument he used to expose Iraq war voters wrong is timeless. Perhaps if this republic is to last a century, we will always know at what point did we change the force of emotion by the force of reason.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008
Shaft2009 3 years ago 3
Only someone of Obama's intelligence, judgment, and wisdom could've predicted what has happened in Iraq. The fact that he was against the war when it was unpopular to do so(2002) shows that he will do what he believes is right for America regardless of what the majority of people here thinks. Look at his record and he has been right on every single decision he has made since becoming a politician. Vote for this man this year or you don't love this country and are condemning it fail
Obama 08!!
KyndestKid 3 years ago 5
OBAMA-BIDEN '08 !!!!!!!
Obamathebest08 3 years ago 3
GOD bless Obama....
karshon 3 years ago 3
Wait if the war was a mistake then why did he say in one of his speeches that out soldiers reduced the violence dramatically in the middle east. If he said that, then obviously he's saying that it was for a good cause. Obama's such an idiot.
MaryBeth321123 3 years ago
fly away, shill.
LeoBloomWilder 3 years ago
Yeah vote for Obama, vote for change!
CHANGE THAT KEEPS ON CHANGING!
WHAT A JOKE!
And McCain is no better!!
love4talent 3 years ago
Amen.
PeteMisener 3 years ago
I can't believe AC told the country Obama voted against the war. He was an Illinois state senator with no decision to make at all.
colonelmatterson 3 years ago
at least he opposed it it shows real judgment and character
johngrazz101 3 years ago
Gotta love his judgment and character: he promised to filibuster the fisa bill giving blanket immunity to telecoms for breaking the law and he voted for it. Gotta love the kind of character he has as a former constitutional law professor who vocally opposed the SCOTUS Kennedy case, ignoring a 50 year precedent in case law.
colonelmatterson 3 years ago
The War is already getting to an end and so we should be focusing on bringing our troops home and cater for them and their families as Obama just said.Bush strategies have failed and is still failing and I guess with Obama on the lead he will push for a quick but careful withdrawal who will return home in fame and glory.Obama's promises does not go only the troops and veterans it expands to all social and political spectrums to make America what it ougth to be.
GoBama 08.....You have my vote!!
Fritzane 3 years ago
Iran's Revolutionary Guard IS a terrorist group. Brave American, British, and other coalition forces are dying in Iraq because of the support both logistical and materialistically that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard provides to destabilize the region.
matthewjdenn 3 years ago 2
Obama's opposition to the Iraq war was clear from the very beginning.Bush misled the Americans by saying Saddam had WMD which wasn't the case.Obama envisaged and forecasted the aftermath of the war and thats exactly what we are seeing today....
OBAMA 08 go go go..
Fritzane 3 years ago
Iraq had WMDs. Iraq had chemical munitions which they used to gas the Kurds before the First Gulf War. As for the situation in Iraq, it has been improving especially since the troop surge which many liberals forecasted and envisaged would FAIL.
matthewjdenn 3 years ago 2
Sorry but NONE of the STOCKPILES were found!
silenzioso84 3 years ago
There were chemical munitions found scattered throughout Iraq. It simply doesn't matter in which manner they were stacked. They are just as lethal. Saddam and the Baath Party killed THOUSANDS of Kurds with these WMDs.
matthewjdenn 3 years ago
you're an idiot. There were no WMD's. After the first GW they were destroyed.
LeoBloomWilder 3 years ago
I'm sorry but you're wrong. I was a staff writer for a newspaper in college last year and we had half an issue devoted just to this topic with supporting pictures. If you'd like I can mail you a copy for proof of the WMDs. (Chemical munitions.)
matthewjdenn 3 years ago
Staff writer for the college newspaper! Yippee! The chemical munitions found in Iraq amounted to commercial grade insecticides and were all leftovers from GW1 -- this shit has a shelf life you know. There were no "reconstituted nuclear bombs," no "remote guided drones" that could fly the Atlantic and deliver "chemical weapons" on New York, there were no "mobile labs" and there wasn't even weapons grade anthrax like that sent after 911 (ours). wake up.
watch?v=EYI7JXGqd0o
nough said.
LeoBloomWilder 3 years ago
My point has nothing to do with me writing for a newspaper. I was merely trying to point out that I have photographic evidence to refute your claim that there were no WMDs in Iraq. Chemical munitions are weapons of mass destruction to me. I don't think anyone would want a bunch of terrorists running around with chemical munitions.
Since they're so safe, I'm sure you wouldn't mind parking a few in your garage. I mean they have a shelf life, right? So they must be safe!
matthewjdenn 3 years ago
#1 - By definition chemical weapons are not a great "weapon of mass destruction." Delivery and deployment are just to hard - fact.
#2 - Saddam Husein couldn't even inflict conventional harm on his neighbors let alone a "WMD" attack on the US.
#3 - Saddam had nothing to do with terrorists.
#4 - Photo evidence backed up by whom? The same administration that lied to get us there in the first place? That war was in the works long before any of this. You are living in their fantasy world.
LeoBloomWilder 3 years ago
Army Col. John Chu told the House Armed Services Committee:
"Regardless of (how much material in the weapon is actually chemical agent), any remaining agent is toxic," he said. "Anything above zero (percent agent) would prove to be toxic, and if you were exposed to it long enough, lethal."
#2: WRONG. He killed thousands of his own PEOPLE! He inflicted conventional harm on Iran! He killed thousands of Kurds! Look it up!
matthewjdenn 3 years ago
LOL! You are a dumb-shit. Expose yourself to enough H20 long enough and that would be lethal too.
Your #2 - Where did he get his initial chem weapons? There are some nice photos of he and Rumsfeld shaking hands in Baghdad if you care to look that up.
If he was so eager to use WMD's on Americans why didn't he use them during GW1(in which I participated) or during the GW2 invasion? Simply because A) he didn't have a desire to and B) he didn't have the effective means to.
LeoBloomWilder 3 years ago
Making personal attacks on me and my quoting of an Army Colonel's report to the House Armed Services Committee does not help bolster your position or prove your point.
You are construing and fabricating statements that I never said. I never said that Saddam used WMDs on Americans in GW1. I said that he used them on Kurds and I believe that he used them on Iranians.
23 May-25 May 1988; Iraqi offensive in northern and central sectors recaptures Shalamche using chemical weapons.
matthewjdenn 3 years ago
I didn't say that you said that he used them on US soldiers. It was a simple question. If Sadam was so delighted by the idea of using WMDs on Americans, what better time to do it than during GW1, or the invasion GW2. He couldn't.
BTW - those new oil contracts with Iraq are again no-bid contracts.
"The no-bid contracts are unusual for the industry, and the offers prevailed over others by more than 40 companies, including companies in Russia, China and India."
Hmmmmmmm. Not about oil.
LeoBloomWilder 3 years ago
The truth always comes to light you Nazi sympathizing test tube baby. I was not surprised to find Nazi videos on your home page. Go sail your facsist BS somewhere else. Ziek Heil, Nazi SWINE.
LeoBloomWilder 3 years ago
#4 - Photo evidence backed up by whom?
By coalition service members!
The same administration that lied to get us there in the first place?
The administration does not have control over every aspect of the coalition and every single photograph that leaves Iraq.
That war was in the works long before any of this.
Yes it was in the works long before this. I agree. I personally think it should have been dealt with back in 1991. We should have gone to Baghdad back in 1991, IMHO.
matthewjdenn 3 years ago
June 29, 2006 -- The 500 munitions discovered throughout Iraq since 2003 and discussed in a National Ground Intelligence Center report meet the criteria of weapons of mass destruction, the center's commander said here today.
"These are chemical weapons as defined under the Chemical Weapons Convention, and yes ... they do constitute weapons of mass destruction," Army Col. John Chu told the House Armed Services Committee.
matthewjdenn 3 years ago
LOLROFL! That's what you constitute WMD's and a reason to invade and take the lives of nearly 1 million people? 500 chemical arty shells found over a period of THREE YEARS? I've seen the photographs you are speaking of. 90% of those "munitions" were old, out of date, and had been sitting burried in the sand from GW1. The ONLY reason Sadam was a "threat" is because he selling oil to the Russians, China, and France - period. Please. Wake from your slumber.
LeoBloomWilder 3 years ago
Listen buddy, Iraq and Saddam's Baath regime had repeatedly violated INTERNATIONAL UN SANCTIONS since 1991. These are sanctions placed on Iraq not just by the United States, but by members of the United Nations. Secondly, your figure of 1 million is absurd. Did you include the innocent Iraqi Muslim lives that the Islamofascists took in that figure of yours and multiply by 10? The whole oil argument is ludicrous. I'm pretty sure that we get more oil from Canada or Saudi Arabia than Iraq.
matthewjdenn 3 years ago
June 29, 2006 - Hamdan v. Rumsfeld: The U.S. Supreme Court rules that President George W. Bush's plan to try Guantanamo Bay detainees in military tribunals violates U.S. and international law.
June 19, 2008 - Four Western oil companies are in the final stages of negotiations this month on contracts that will return them to Iraq, 36 years after losing their oil concession to nationalization as Saddam Hussein rose to power.
Your argument died with Sadam Husein.
LeoBloomWilder 3 years ago
June 29, 2006 - Hamdan v. Rumsfeld: The U.S. Supreme Court rules that President George W. Bush's plan to try Guantanamo Bay detainees in military tribunals violates U.S. and international law.
OFF TOPIC. SEPARATE ISSUE.
June 19, 2008 - Four Western oil companies are in the final stages of negotiations this month on contracts that will return them to Iraq, 36 years after losing their oil concession to nationalization as Saddam Hussein rose to power.
Good, I hope they make lots of money.
matthewjdenn 3 years ago
My reference to the June 29, 2006 story - The U.S. Supreme Court decision on Hamdan v. Rumsfeld was not off topic. That was the REAL story of the day which was eclipsed by your story silly story of the discovery of 500 circa 1980's chem arty shells found burried somewhere in the Iraqi desert along with their aircraft.
The personal attack was warranted. :)
LeoBloomWilder 3 years ago
Big surprise that they couldn't use their aircraft to deliver chemical munitions like they did against the Kurdish population. It's called AIR SUPERIORITY.
"The personal attack was warranted. :)"
You are not going to convince me that you are right by harassing & making personal attacks against me, going off topic, or by trying to
convince people the the Geneva Convention written in it's original language along with the Hague convention applies to TERRORISTS.
YOU ARE BLOCKED, TROLL.
matthewjdenn 3 years ago
The U.S.'s #1 oil import comes from Canada - then Saudi Arabia - then Mexico. And, Saddam GASSED whole villiages in his own country - hundreds of thousands were killed - mass graves were discovered - he used WMD during his invasion of Kuwait and the war with Iran. Keep heart, matthewjdenn, there's alot of idiots posting on uTube that haven't a clue.
cecefranki 3 years ago 4
Thank you for your support.
matthewjdenn 3 years ago
no sir....Bush did not lie, he went on evidence. beat him up if you want, but can you ask why we bombed Iraq many times in the 90's?
Obama is full of empty promises
VdomanZ 3 years ago
Bush ran on the platform to change Washington DC Look it. He said he will change and use his CEO skills to run the country. Now BO comes in and said DC needs to be changed from ground up using his community organizing skills. God help us!
kabaau 3 years ago
its better to let the community change it though:)
Wulfgar12 3 years ago 2
OBAMA for President in 2008!!
Lui2theG 3 years ago
OBAMA 08!
xurrealism3 3 years ago
I love you Hillary.
2025DPlaza 3 years ago
What intel do you need Iraq a third world nation already beaten and disarmed
was attacked by a preemptive American force using ww3 tactics and ammo.
1 million innocent IRAQIs were murdered America you are no longer a leader in the world you are now a rogue banana republic
Whose people are sheep.
your own leaders laugh at you
Obama clinton Mccain the 3 stooges will continue the plan of North American union
40 million American jobs are slated to go to China and India in the next 5 years.
dave777blaster 3 years ago
There were plenty of hard-left liberals opposed to the war.
kdTV2Lvr 3 years ago
***IT'S A BITCH PACK***
Most believe Hillary is now campaigning for Sen. John McCain and against Obama. Why not for herself? Because Hillary has already LOST the Nomination for 2008. She knows this, experts know this, & those who aren't brainsless know that Hillary CAN NOT WIN!
Hillary is in this to get her long-time friend John McCain elected. McCain has vowed to only serve one term, as McCain is as old as the DEAD SEA SCROLLS!
McCain will help Hillary in 2012!They've agreed on it!
blueguise23 3 years ago 4
Sen. Obama was correct from the start, Sen. Clinton has cleared the muddle desseminated about her (very)qualified vote, ... what is the issue? It seems to be personal and superficial with most Americans, who, merely get their 'information' from Tv and youtube soundbites. We are in trouble.
tracer740 3 years ago 3
Obama had no intelligence information given to him as he sat in Illinois. Clinton was presented with intelligence (erroneous we NOW know). I'm sure it was a hard decision for everyone. Obama had no vote. He just talked. As he does now...he just talks, and talks, and talks...
whiteoakindian 3 years ago
You are just one pathetic fool. Hillary is no more get ready to accept Obama as your next President.
bthushilp 3 years ago
Hillary has lost the Nomination. She has NO CHANCE of Winning.
She has run a piss-poor campaign and embarassed herself in the process. Her campaign is bankrupted and she is a horrible manager, a SERIAL LIAR, and a person of no integrity.
Hillary is now working for John McCain, in hopes he can get her back into The White House in 2012, Hillary and Monica Lewinsky, Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones and the like.
So they can continue SCREWING AND LYING to the American people!
blueguise23 3 years ago 4
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not way obama won't win.
helmutnyc 3 years ago
Wake up Obama was not privy to the intelligence that the Senators of whom was not then. He is playing Monday morning quarterback.
Obama is being dishonest. Now he's fucked be cause he lacked the judgment to know that Reverend Wright his mentor of 20 years was crazier than a shit house rat.
Hillary is sitting back watching Osama self destruct. This comes as no surprise.
Obama is naive at best. I think he is a racist and perhaps a closet Muslim.
Balldez 3 years ago
Question:
Would you rather, have your government pay your healthcare bill year after year. Or would you rather your government, start researching such projects as a $2000.00 per year solution to family energy needs? The goal being for under $2000.00 a year, a family would have enough energy to power a home, and 2 cars for a year.
What would save you the most money? What result would be the best for America? Please I would love to see America's answers on this.
James92802 3 years ago
That's right. Being married to a pilot doesn't automatically qualify one to fly a jet. So much for Hillary's claims of experience. Now 68% of Americans believes that she lies like a carpet, a bad rash for the democrats, she slices and dices democrat party, she cheered when John Kerry did not win in the last election, now she and her two faced husband are running a smear campaign against another fellow democrat! SHAME ON YOU!!!!
dragonlancet 3 years ago 2
Billary and John McShitstain are snakes in the grass slithering around together plotting, scheming, and manipulating the media(Fox,etc.) in a desperate attempt at dragging Barack Obama into the dirt. Like pigs, Hil, Bill, and John are comfortable rolling around in feces....the SPIN STARTS HERE! They are full of foxshit! lol
nebaioth 3 years ago 3
saddam had "a lot of bad stuff for a very long time" ha!! how eloquent. How is it that this lady is even running?
CountofMortain 3 years ago
with regards to Hillary clintons "experience"... k, yes she was a senator. NO she was not a president. being married to a pilot doesnt give you the experience to become a pilot... same with the presidency. go obama!
Tristan00 3 years ago 4
Why former Labor Secretary Robert Reich endorses Obama:
"I saw the ads" — the negative man-on-street commercials that the Clinton campaign put up in Pennsylvania in the wake of Obama's bitter/cling comments a week ago — "and I was appalled, frankly. I thought it represented the nadir of mean-spirited, negative politics. And also of the politics of distraction, of gotcha politics. It's the worst of all worlds.
EKSartist 3 years ago
I think that out of all the girls I know, i am the only one willing to admit that Hillary stands no chance. Obama clearly has the upper hand no matter what his past is. People grow from their mistakes. obviously.
ilov3cong 3 years ago
i believe if Americans stop wasting billions of dollars on a war that you cant win it will help your economy stabilize
Sractch360 3 years ago 2
ShmeeShoo, that is even a better case for Obama u just made. He was one of the only ones because he felt it was not a just or reasonable war, he didnt just o with the flow. That the type of CDR-in-Chief we need.
DizzyDizzle18 3 years ago
I just worry about his experience is all, I think Hilary could actually get both parties to work together and atleast get some good things done before her term ended. Obama would most likely have trouble getting anything done at all, everything would be a battle for him. He was right about the war, but there is so much more to being president.
ShmeeShoo 3 years ago
She is tearing the Dem Party a part, because of her self centered ego. She has created anger and division in her own party. How in the world could she bring both parties together?
Jaceegrl 3 years ago
what other harm could he possibly do to this country, i dont think he can do any worse than bush has, plus i like the fact thatll he'll pull our troops out within 16months no questions asked and then restore our nation money and global wise, and in terms of hillary bringing both parties together, i highly doubt she could, shes messing up the democratic party enough as it is, imagine if her and the republicans had a disagreement on anything her ego would get in the way of any possible compromise
pimpinkin87 3 years ago
I don't think you can blame Hilary for her vote in that bill, all elected officials in this country represent the people who elected them. They don't just make descisions because they feel its best, but rather make the choice they believe the voters would support. At that time a overwhelming amount of people believed we should go to war, look at Bush's approval ratings in those early stages. Majority of America was for war, so we went to war. Not because they voted for it.
ShmeeShoo 3 years ago
Historically only congress can declare war. This was the congress declaring/acquiescing war.
bryanamburgey 3 years ago
I know, but i'm just saying as voters we were all responsible for that war. Not just the congress members that represented us in casting a yes vote to it. Majority of America supported the war at the time afterall. Now that the war is seen as unwinnable, and is largely unpopular, we blame the congress members that casted the vote we all supported? We are all to blame, all Americans that supported bush in the initial stages are to blame and thats the majority of us.
ShmeeShoo 3 years ago
2:00: oooooo look at the daggers coming outta her eyes lol
sashamo66 3 years ago
Thanks to Senator Mccain and Senator Clinton, more mothers are suffering.
He's right it is a DUMB war.
Obama 08
selemawit14 3 years ago 4
Im annoyed with th esupposrt barak gets but who the hell is he really we all love the idea of who he could be but the question of who he really is still has to be answered.
oceansoultandt 3 years ago
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Barack is a Joke, an Empty Suit. He claims to be a 'Uniter' and a true Unifier he will bring EVERYONE from both sides together we are all told.
I challenge you to Name me One Piece of Legislation that Barack has Reached across the Aisle and worked on successfuly to get passed through ? Name me anything nationally of substance that he was a key member of and had significance on ? YOU CANT BECAUSE THERE ARE NONE.
Why is everyone so 'Mezmerized' by all this sugar coated fluff ?
MccainsaLIBERAL 3 years ago
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the next President of the United States of America; that's who
darcskies777 3 years ago
"a lot of bad stuff" what kind of stuff? porn magazines!!!!
awahab22 3 years ago
i would give my life for this man =]
BYRON2SEXY 3 years ago 2
Go obama!
FatMaster2002 3 years ago 2
Is this the same woman who said: "we acted on faulty intelligence" and later said "this is George Bush's war...this was always George Bush's war..."? That there was "stuff" in Iraq? The word is Weapons of Mass Destruction that they did not have.
alyceclover 3 years ago
OH SNAP!!! hahahah!!!!
PrettyDoctor 3 years ago
She voted for the Iraq war. She was wrong. Inconsistent and unreliable. Reminds me of George W. Bush.
America made two mistakes in electing and re-electing George W. Bush.
Pittsburgh, PA is for Obama.
zereoue 3 years ago 2
yeah, and don't forget her voting for NAFTA and then saying she "hoped it wouldn't pass"!!
inconsistent.
that's exactly the kind of lack of integrity and straightforwardness that got your country into trouble. i think the world, as well as america, could do without such people in power. vote obama.
geodesicks 3 years ago
I think you are talking about the Bankruptcy bill, just to clarify, but either way you are right. Obama said,"usually if you don't want something to pass you vote against it."
bryanamburgey 3 years ago
i could never trust hilarry and i find obama is a fresh start
dph13 3 years ago 3
I'm in Pa i can't wait to vote against Hellery Clinton.
She is Bush's choice for president.
johnnorvaisas 3 years ago 3
It seems as though there is a lot that Hillary cannot talk her way out of lately like NAFTA and supposed sniper fire in Bosnia back in 1996. Character is an important consisderation in picking a President AND isn't it obvious that the Clinton's lack character?
gary200810 3 years ago
"alot of bad stuff" nice on hillary lol.
mainstreamluke92 3 years ago 3
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Obama is a man in his time. It is seldom that people are born and raised and step into the place at the right time. Martin Luther King who fought for equality, Mahatma Gandhi, John F Kennedy, Nelson Mandela and many others. Unfortunately, because the wickedness of the world abounds, we know what happened to a majority of the enlightened. Let us all pray hard for America. What it was able to bear with the assassination of Kennedy and King will not be easy if they touch the anointed this time.
shpeabody 3 years ago
Obama runs circles around her. Great video.
Another thing I hvae to point out. Clinton stated she has always been a critic of NAFTA. Recently, White House documents were released that she was an ardent advocate for NAFTA. She held at least five meetings to strategize about how to win congressional approval of the deal. She blatantly lied. What's her defense? THIS person cannot be voted into office.
LBOOGiE73 3 years ago 2
And the people who sat in on the NAFTA meetings stated she fought for changes in the agreement
nmnykg 3 years ago
Thanks for the response. I'll look deeper for what changes she pressed for in the NAFTA agreement.
LBOOGiE73 3 years ago
I can't stand those smug smirks on Hilary's face.
sveria1210 3 years ago 8
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ok so after 911? were we just supposed to fucking sit there and not do anything about it? ofcourse we had to fight back. just because hillary clinton voted to go to war doesnt mean she planned for it to last this long.
Vanevlls 3 years ago
fight back? iraq was not involved in the attacks of 9-11.
supercognito 3 years ago 10
uhm first of all nobody even knows who caused 9/11 bin laden denied it everytime he was asked some say its the taliban others say its a conspiracy nobody knows but it led us into a war with afganistan idiot iraq was a country the invaded because they were scared of sadam hussein hilary was spineless and agreed with the bush administrations flawwed plans so dont try and defend an obvious fault on her part
Slashfreak 3 years ago
Senator Obama did not vote for the war in Iraq contrary to Senator McCain and Senator Clinton!
Albert Einstein: No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it.
brain96969 3 years ago 5
Obama BEFORE the war in Iraq:
I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.
Obama opposed the war in Iraq on DAY ONE!
EKSartist 3 years ago 3
Bad judgement is not a good thing in presidency. when Bush tryed to jump start the economy, he had no idea what he was doing. the economy works when the lower class spend money on neccesities which gives to the middle class which then spends on neccesities and luxurys to fund the middle and high class. it is a circular economy. a few thousand will be used up in a few weeks and then what? its like trying to jump start a car that has no fuel.
nintendowns 3 years ago
another point i would like to make is that hillary always says she can lead the military on day one. how may i ask will she do that when she has not spent a single day in her life leading any military force?How, when she shows the bad judgement to vote for the war in iraq? and how, when she shows the immaturity to try and claim that the bill for war was a bill for "resolution" when it clearly said "AUTHORIZATION OF MILITARY FORCE IN IRAQ?" Barrack voted against the war. That is judgment people.
nintendowns 3 years ago
Hillary, like Bill Clinton is clueless on national defense. Both Bill & Hillary will do and say whatever they have to to win votes. Hillary voted for the war and voted against giving our military extra armor and weapons. She clearly wants us to lose.
Showtime082001 3 years ago
im black and if i were him id do the same as would anyone else. he doesnt claim to be of the lower class black upbringing or does he try to fit in or identify with them, people just assume so because he is black.
nyramparts 3 years ago
It just so happens that Obama was right in this case, but really, there were legitimate reasons to go to war. Almost 80 percent of the Senate voted in favor of the war: this wasn't Hillary being stupid, this was a reasonable mistake of the entire United States Senate.
It's easy to have 20/20 hindsight, and Obama just got lucky on this one.
shortamina 3 years ago
thats probably true but that sucks for hillary. lol
nyramparts 3 years ago
That is not true. It was not a reasonable mistake, as much a clear example of the will of the political establishment. It is a perfect example of how a majority of democrats and republicans will blow with the wind in Washington. Even the press was intimidated into supporting the war. In 2002, I had the same judgement as Obama. I agreed that Saddam was a horrible tyrant, but timing to me is everything.
Obama will not waste our soldiers' lives. He did not just "get lucky." No one did.
bryanamburgey 3 years ago
According to page 294 of Obama's Audacity of Hope, "Like most analysts, I assumed that Saddam had chemical and biological weapons and coveted nuclear arms."
During a July 2004 interview on Meet the Press when asked how he would have voted on the Iraq resolution, Obama answered "I don't know...There's not much of a difference between my position on Iraq and George Bush's position at this stage."
lea210 3 years ago
2006- HE SAID, "I'm always careful to say that I was NOT in the Senate, so PERHAPS the reason I thought it was such a bad idea was that I didn't have the benefit of US intelligence. And for those who did, it MIGHT have led to a different set of choices."
lea210 3 years ago
i fully agree. its about analysis. the senate did not analyze, they just voted for the majority. Barrack did not. he voted against the war that would cause billions each day and thousands of casualties. those billions should be invested in the economy, in healthcare, and in clean fuel. barrack had the judgement to choose not to vote for war and the hillary campaign will just have to stop trying to cover up hillarys mistakes. we dont need another bush. we need change. vote Barrack 08 for change.
nintendowns 3 years ago
I love how hillary says "they had a lot of bad stuff." ...real presedential of you, ms. perfect....
jimber22 3 years ago 3
Notice how Hillary stumbles when you take away the Hillary plants with the planted questions? She has had 20 debates with Obama and lost everytime. No wonder she said words mean nothing. Or is it because her words mean nothing. Remember when Hillary promised 250,000 new jobs for Buffalo, NY and the whole state, especially Buffalo showed a deficit? Indeed, Hillary's words are worthless.
Showtime082001 3 years ago
exactly. nice point.
nintendowns 3 years ago
you can tell barack is different by 2 things. 1, he runs an honest campaign that does not partake in the dirty politics that hillarys does even when attacked by her ads and speeches. 2, his political history shows that he thinks about the people and he has very good judgement. he voted against the war in iraq which i think many will agree is one of the biggest political blunders in history. who voted for the war? hilary. yet she always makes excuses about how"the bill wasnt clear" Obama ftw.
nintendowns 3 years ago
honest campaign? You mean misleading flyers? You mean using the race card to turn black people away from Hillary? How about running an Ad in florida against DNC agreements? How bout perpetuating the ferraro news? Also how bout using his wife to directly attack hillary so he doesn't have to? Or how about trying to destroy her records by belittling her experience?
lea210 3 years ago
what do u mean by race card? all obama has ever said about race was that all races should be united under one america. just because he appeals to other racial groups, doesnt mean that he is tricking them to vote for him. this behavior is typical of the hilary campaign. you take barracks good qualitys, and then say that hes all talk because he is a good orator, or that all blacks will vote for him because he has an african american heritage.stop using worthless criticisms to justify your point.
nintendowns 3 years ago
hilary she is really stupid vote obama and .what she said about benladen this man doesn't represent islam he is stupid too
vote barack obama
fuck the bitch hilary
sa9r9oraych 3 years ago
Maybe Hitlery can get her votes counted in Michigan & Florida. She likes to run when there's only one candidate, just like her Hitlery heroes: Stalin, Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Pinochet, Marcos, Pinochet, etc. Hitlery can be our dictator for the 21st century.
dayglowgreendoor 3 years ago
'RIGHT from day one' - nice Wan Obi. Take that Clinterous. Really starting to tire of that woman...
gentlemanimal 3 years ago
history already shows that Hillary redefined what a 1st lady does and going back to Carters admin, she was selected to head the Legal Services Commison which is responsible for providing legal services to the poor, while she was doing that, Obama by his own admission in his book was a "street kid in jakarta"
jabusso 3 years ago
here is my opinion. barack is very good at talking about the issues. hillary is good at talking her way out of the issues. Obama ftw.
nintendowns 3 years ago 4
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what issues does he talk about? I heard him say "we are the change we have been waiting for" ...that doesnt make sense, if we are the change why are we waiting? for him...oh please..dont think so highly of yourself, this guy is full of it!!! his actual voting record does not match his rhetoric, not even close, open your eyes, research from unbiased sources,if you get all your info from his website, thats not an unbiased source.
jabusso 3 years ago
what that means is that we have the power to make the changes that we need to make. basically, barracvk wants people to be involved int there govt.
nintendowns 3 years ago 2
It's time for a change. It's time to stop the Clinton/Bush criminal junta that has occupied the executive branch since 1981. This is about change from the privileged elite that have dominated government & destroyed its economy. It's time for change, now. It's time for Obama. Go to hell, Hellray.
dayglowgreendoor 3 years ago 3
you mean the Clinton presidency that created 22 million new jobs? Or the record surplus left in our budget when he left office?
jabusso 3 years ago
Barack's entire campaign is premised on his superior judgement, even though he wasn't even in the US Senate at the time of the vote, had no access to Senate intelligence reports and admitted in '04 that he basically agreed with W on the war. He also conceded that had he actually been in the US Senate, he does not now how he would have voted. When he was actually in the senate, he voted against time lines, and continuously voted for funding the war. nuff said.
conk014 3 years ago
Hillary and her team's treatment of treating Obama like a houseboy is dispicable.....People of color are tired of being in the number treated like that Shame on you hillary. Hillary is an abused Mental wife of a cheating husband who can't eve stand up to her husband let alone stand up to Bin Ladin. nuff said.
chazverado 3 years ago 5
You hit the nail on the head! ha ha ha
federaikkonerer 3 years ago
mr. "don't be confused" &
mr "I don't mean it"
mr "You will come back to Iraq if al Qaeda there."
You promised don't make me confused, don't bully me.
erlynabauman 3 years ago
May we not forget that it was during the Clintons that America had a surplus up to the time when Bill Clinton finished his term. I still believe it takes a Clinton to clean up a Bush mess.
jano1001 3 years ago
I agree and add it will take Hillary Clinton to clean up after Bush. Hillary has the momentum all the way to the White House. Go Hillary!
lizben08 3 years ago
Hillary will scare swing voters to McCain. She will push more dems to Ralph Nader. A vote for Hillary is a vote for McCain. Do you want the Dems to win? Put aside your bias to her and pick the candidate that won't make for "an all red" map (i.e. she'll make Reagan's victories look weak)
MotownMoleman 3 years ago
No bias, just a good look at the candidate records and Hillary's points all the way to the White House.
lizben08 3 years ago
lizben, It takes a Clinton to clean up after a Bush?? By your rationale, we will have to elect another Bush to mess up after a Clinton! Please! This is a ridiculous argument! What unique qualities does "a Clinton" possess to clean up after a Bush? How arrogant of Hillary to suggest only a Clinton can do the job!!
EKSartist 3 years ago
liz, focus on the fact that it will take a whole government to keep our country going. Hillary cannot do this, as she CAN NOT be elected. She won't get swing voters, she'll scare off her own democrats.
MotownMoleman 3 years ago
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Mo, disagree. Hillary is our best chance at the swing vote in the large electoral college states Dems need most like Ohio. BO is getting delegates in small states that will go red and he is becoming more polarizing. Check out exit polls in Texas and Ohio.
lizben08 3 years ago
YOU GOT IT
GO HILLARY GO 2008.
miststick 3 years ago
And how well did the Clinton's reduce the debt? Clinton had it easy because the economy was going well.
MotownMoleman 3 years ago
or was the economy going well because of Bill? Its just a coincidence that following George H we had a recession, and that right now we are heading for a craaazy recession? Foreclosures up, unemployment up, inflation high, household savings down. Don't bore me with that "dot com recession" nonsense either. That whole thing was fueled by wall street speculation. Thank god bill clinton fostered technological development under his historically succesful administration. Can you say surplus?
conk014 3 years ago 2
And lets not talk about personal. Lets talk on issues.
jano1001 3 years ago
jano, the "personal" behavior of Bill Clinton IS an issue! What will happen to Hillary's presidency when he is caught cheating again? Who can guarantee this scenario won't occur? Knowing the Republicans, they would use his indiscretions as a way to question her authority as president. They'll ask, if she can't keep her man in line, how can she control her country? I'm not saying that would be fair -- I'm just making a prediction.
EKSartist 3 years ago
I mean she voted for the war not he. Thanks
jano1001 3 years ago
EKSartist, that is my point that who knows what he had voted for if he was a member. He spoke he was opposed to war okay. Hillary said he voted for the war to fill the vaccum left by Al Queda during the 911. But she opposed of having the war too long. And she regretted it and said it in one of their debates.
jano1001 3 years ago
jano1001, Obama was not a member of congress when the war in Iraq began. He was opposed to the war spoke out against our invasion of Iraq at a time when it was very unpopular to do so. He stuck by his principles, and spoke out for what he believed was right, and that shows his good judgment. Hillary allowed herself to be duped by George W., and voted for allowing the invasion. She has never apologized for her vote,
EKSartist 3 years ago
idtfjmk, yea a political leader needs to have a great and clear vision, just like MM Lee Kuan Yew from Singapore. i'm not sure if h.clinton has, but i can see that obama seems to be a better candidate in this part. fr SG.
beiyuan82 3 years ago
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Go Hillary! We're so proud of you! You have our vote! Although if Barack Obama wins the democratic nominee, we will vote for him!
"YES WE CAN" "YES WE CAN"
GenealogyKR 3 years ago
Clinton, Boxer donor pleads guilty, Abdul Rehman Jinnah admits he used straw donors to contribute at least $53,000 to the Democratic senators.From a Times Staff Writer LA TIMES
February 29, 2008
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DeeM1890 3 years ago 4
According to page 294 of Obama's Audacity of Hope, "Like most analysts, I assumed that Saddam had chemical and biological weapons and coveted nuclear arms."
During a July 2004 interview on Meet the Press when asked how he would have voted on the Iraq resolution, Obama answered "I don't know...There's not much of a difference between my position on Iraq and George Bush's position at this stage."
supportinghillary 3 years ago
Also one thing the Clintons will not tell you is that Bush vito his bill for immediate withdrawal from Iraq. Saddam has weapons of course we know that but war was unwise, so are you telling me that Clinton will go after IRAN which she gave BUSH the benefit of a doubt.
IF HILLARY BECOMES PRESIDENT SHE WILL MAKE A LOT OF MISTAKES BECAUSE SHE KEEPS RELYING ON EVERYBODY AND HAS NO CLEAR VISION FOR THE COUNTRY.
idtfjmk 3 years ago 2
OBAMA VISION IS VISION IS CHANGE, UNITY, AND PEACE. Talking to those countries we don't like and the countries we like. THIS WILL EASE ALL THE TENSION AMERICA HAS not just with Iran, Iraq, but also Russia, China, and many more.
Just like her campaign She changes her message everyday. What will She do when She becomes president?
idtfjmk 3 years ago 3
if the face off is between mc cain obama obama will bury his ass.
wungkevin 3 years ago 3
Since Billary want to talk about Rezko, what abut their dealings with Norman Hsu? If anybody want to know more about him, just google his name.
cdub153340 3 years ago 3
Clinton-an empty pants suit.
shogun37 3 years ago 5
bad stuff. LMAO she doesn't even know what the bad stuff are.
0xR3B3L 3 years ago 2
great video it was nice to see older clips from the past. thanks
ewigkase1 3 years ago
I like how he says how "We're" going to make decisions in the future, as opposed to "I." It shows that his campaign isn't about "Me, me, me" and his tendency to surround himself with the best and brightest. Although I like Hillary, I don't completely see this from her. She also often uses the phrase "I," and talks about what "she's" going to do.
TiJayEve 3 years ago
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The votes are in for Hillary!
A big thank you to Ohio and Texas from Illinois!
lizben08 3 years ago
Guess what!? Only widdle liberal Vermont did!
Obama - an empty suit.
kdTV2Lvr 3 years ago
Regardless...even Texas and Ohio...OBAMA is still in the lead. OBAMA2008! The momentum continues for a good race. That is what America is all about. She may have won TX and OH but look at the numbers people. The momentum is in full swing. Keep strong Pres. Obama, we are with you! Vote for Hillary is really a vote for Bill Clinton and driver's licenses for illegal immigrants. I rather have a candidate that cares about my kids!
Passiespel 3 years ago
Momentum with Hillary. Look at the exit polls and polls today.
lizben08 3 years ago
lizben for spammer 08!
Scrantonicitytwo 3 years ago 2
obama supports drivers license for illegal immigrants. Know your facts. Also if you know politics, right now its not really about the lead, it is about who will cross the finish line and right now it looks like neither. That is why florida and michigan may come into play..or it will be done by superdelegates.
supportinghillary 3 years ago
supportinghillary, I'm not upset about Obama's driver's licenses proposal, because I know Obama's concern is about safety, and protecting the country from unlicensed drivers. They're already out there driving on our roads every day, and at least he is trying to make it safer for all of us to drive.
EKSartist 3 years ago
OH no, you cannot see that Hillary has already shown the US what kind of dirty president she would be, the thought of her in office makes me sick, People please dont let the best candidate we ever had slip by, remember Bush Clinton, Bush............com'on folks THINK!!!
Obama is the better person!
jessemoralestube 3 years ago 4
It will be so sad if Ohio lets Hilliary win today, that will mean they cant see a snake coming rtight at them!
Why in the world would amy body voe for her,
Please people (Taxas and Ohio) see that power hungry lady for what she is...... vote for Obama so we can be a great nation again!
jessemoralestube 3 years ago
because she has the strength and experience thats needed to be president. its not about who dumb college kids think is "cool" its about who has real solutions not pretty words.
kdTV2Lvr 3 years ago
kdtv2lvr, I resent your implication that Obama supporters are a bunch of kids who don't know any better than to elect the latest "fad." First, why complain about college students getting excited and involved in politics? I thought college kids were criticized for being apathetic. How dare you suggest their interest in Obama's campaign is meaningless!
Second, the Clintons' base is the working class. Democrats who are college-educated generally prefer Obama. Dumb college kids? I think not!
EKSartist 3 years ago 4
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Ohio has the longest record for picking our next President. Go Ohio! Go Hillary!
lizben08 3 years ago
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Venezuela ya esta comprometida hace rato, quien no sabe que Chavez apoya a la guerrilla??
Cobardes???
Cobardes los guerrilleros que matan, secuestran, ponen minas, etc, etc. Esos sí son cobardes.
chavez y los que le apoyan tienen que pagar por apoyar el terrorismo.
pobre ignorante!!!
jimmylovesdogs 3 years ago
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I will vote for Hiliary. Obama is all smoke and mirrors. No real plan.Let's get real. No matter who is elected, they will have to a