WikiLeaks - Kevin Rudd: Chinese leaders are "paranoid" - ABC 101205

[figbat1]

china invades tibet because it thinks it owns it and wants to throw its weight around to show the world how much power it has........and because they are so powerful...the rest of the world just watches them.......we have billions of dollars of trade deals with them and are so afraid to say anything.....WHAT A JOKE......the tibetans try to leave their country to escape the oppression...and are shot in the back. MOST AUSTRALIANS HATE THE F U C K IN G CHINESE but we cant do a damned thing about it

[dabaox]

@figbat1 very interest comment, so China invade tibet, like White invade the aboriginals' land, China should back off, Australian just say sorry. and you feel ok about it. correct? please have a rest, Australian mine can sell to countries other than China, it's up to BHP and Rio and other companies.

[figbat1]

CHINA YOU REALLY GIVE ME THE S H I T S! and you really shit off most of australians...and our government bends over for you arsewipes everytime and we take it up the arse. you have no right to come here and buy up our farmland like you are doing. our government is as weak as piss. all our companies shouldnt be allowed to be sold overseas so our profits go overseas...i blame the swanette and people like that.....WEAK AS PISS! its not right...and when you try to do something about it....you cant.

[dabaox]

@figbat1 so stop exporting? would you buy them all?

[AntiDefm]

@alwaysliam You thought you have the ability to access information?! You must be kidding yourself, kiddo.

The deep-rooted problem of Western democarcy is people's inability to access the information to control their government and to decide their own fate. Every election is spin, Government counts on spining to launch a policy or a war. You tell me where you can get your ability to access the information you needed to manage the political affair in any Western country?!

[AntiDefm]

@alwaysliam C'mon, kiddo, don't be brain-washed by the West.

There have been more than 20 years of "freedom" and "democracy" for all these former Soviet countries in East Europe now. You tell me which country is doing better than before?! Examples are plenty, Ukraine even can't afford the heating cost in last winter.

There are so many old "free and democratic" countries in Europe, Greece is the cradle of Western civilization and democracy, Thanks to China's help to stabilize its economy. ...

[ActuallyLiam]

Ignoring all this "God hates" bull shit. I happen to agree, with what was outlined in this video. China is a dangerous nation, frankly. They hold different values than those commonly portrayed in the western world. Eventually if they want to come into the western forum and have a say. They will have to abide by the diplomatic rules. If they get out of hand, they should be dealt with accordingly. It's the way it is. If force becomes needed to protect our interests. Then it should be used.

[AntiDefm]

@ActuallyLiam No one expects a 20 year-old Australian boy knows too much about thsi world he lives in.

Listen, kiddo, when Egyptians had Giza pyramid, Persians had Persepolis and Chinese had Great Wall, "your western" ancesters were still running in nude and fu*king in brushes.

Just less than 150 years, "your Western" greatgrand or grandparants were still trading slaves in open market, and that was more than 2000 years after Persians had Cyrus Cylinder - the first human rights declaration.

[AntiDefm]

@ActuallyLiam Also, in case you don't know, the largest child trafficking happened in human history is in Australia and it happened as recent as less than 50 years ago. More than 150,000 British children were sent to the British colonies including Australia. You won't call that as "Western" value, will you?!

C'mon, kiddo, even Kevin Rudd has openly repeatedly shown his admiration for Chinese civilization. He is, as he said, "deeply grateful" Australia is not in recession because of China.

[ThePaultheking123]

what a big deal,I am chinese,I donot care,anyway,politician is politician

[richardyeo100]

wikileak is actually wikileak pant out lies. They are blatant lies. After exhausting all avenue to destroy china and split asian unity by way of fabricating lies,the new toos of propaganda is wikileaks. Wikileaks are designed to lies about who say this and who say that. It was designed to make nations turns against nations. How true is wikileak when you are not witness to testify . It is just based on 007 personal opinion. All are damn malicious lies.Now the west has fallen ,east has triump.

[whytedog]

@richardyeo100

So before you descend into yet another self conceited and arrogant rant which is big on insults but offers nothing in the way of critical analysis like a spoilt child who loves to give criticism but throws a tantrum whenever someone is critical of you. Answer me this I have given you clear examples (John Stewart, Mike Moore and Sixty Minutes) of elements of the American media that is freely and openly critical of American society and business where is the Chinese equivalent?

[whytedog]

This wiki leaks thing is actually a blessing as for too long people have been indulging in some whimsical notion that China and the Chinese Communist Party would automatically through the "virtue of multilateral engagement" would be naturally transformed into a benevolent and peaceful giant. Well being "sensitive" to China's core interests as only emboldened the C.C.P into been beligerant and playing the ultra nationalist card in order to prolong their regieme legitmacy

[AntiDefm]

@whytedog LOL! WikiLeaks is a blessing because as for too long people have been brain washed and couldn't see the facts right in front of their eyes.

As a matter of fact, WikiLeaks just remind people that the US is the biggest threat to the human civilization and the world. US national intersts is to instigate hatred and conflicts around the world. Just look at how many wars these bloody American have launched in the foreign lands since the end of WW2. You don't need to be a moron to see that.

[whytedog]

@AntiDefm

I find it most amusing you used the term "brain washed" do you even know what that means? It appears not. As for mass brain washing to take place across the majority of the population you need to have all medias repeating the same message from the same point of view without deviation. If you knew anything about the media in the U.S or Australia you would know there is a broad spectrum of media avaliable expressing a full spectrum of ideals on all issues.

[AntiDefm]

@whytedog LOL! American government is built upon brain-washing. American spirit is brain-washing and hypocrisy. These bloody Americans stick their fingers everywhere.

American media?! LOL! look at what the latest happeneing to WikiLeaks!

What a retarded idiot! White dog?! Ouff, Ouff! LOL!

[AntiDefm]

@whytedog If you follow the latest news happened with WikiLeaks and Kevin Rudd, then you should know even Kevin Rudd got sick of the hypocrite Americans. You don't need to be a retarded stupid white dog to know that, LOL!

[whytedog]

@AntiDefm

Why exactly do people write "LOL" as it is the most self indulgant and narcissistic thing someone could do. Yes, Kevin Rudd and some other Western leaders may see the American government as arrogant but he like many other Western leaders would have to be retarded to fail to see that the U.S.A brings far more than its fair share of big ticket military capacity to the Western table in proportion to its population. For example if you looked at the entire European Union aggregate naval

[whytedog]

@whytedog

For example if you looked at the entire European Union aggregate naval fleet you would see there is only one conventional aircraft carrier at this point in time however the U.S has 12 even though the combined E.U has a greater combined population and G.D.P than the U.S.A. It is this unparalleled ability to put some muscle behind the hustle that other Western leaders have a grudging respect for even though they mght not voice it.

[AntiDefm]

@whytedog How could you not laugh when you see a stupid retarded American white dog?! You even can't figure out why you are dying by the side of the road in Afghansitan, LOLLLL!

[whytedog]

@AntiDefm

Now now there is nothing clever, smart or intelligent about posting insults especially via cyberspace as it proves nothing. I mean you don't have to be tough to do it as I could post all kinds of insults but I would be lowering myself to your level. You still have not addressed the issue that the American media freely offers a wide variety of perspectives and narratives of social, political and historical issues where as what is on offer in the P.R.C apart from C.C.T.V and Xinhua.

[whytedog]

@AntiDefm

For example at one end of the spectrum you have Fox News at the other end you have John Stewart and the Daily Show. One other thing how the hell did you come to the conclusion that I am an American in the first place. You also have documentaries like "60 minutes" which are openly critical of a range of issues in American society not to mention people like Mike Moore who has literally made millions publically making all kinds of criticisms of American society, government and business.

[AntiDefm]

@whytedog LOL! "99-cents" American brainwash! LOL!

[whytedog]

@AntiDefm

I think a more apt thing to say would be "Chinese Brain Wash'. Anyway why the hell do you even bother writing "LOL" it makes you look naricistic and self conceited. Let me makes things easy for you (I know it's hard but I will try) In order for someone to be brain washed they usually need to be relentlessly bombarded with the same banal trite message without deviation. As already shown the far freer media environment in the U.S means Chinese are more likely to be brain washed.

[whytedog]

@AntiDefm

let me give you a specific example of the greater media freedom offered in the U.S. which is right at your finger tips (literally) type in "Everybody Hates Chris S1EP21 - Racial Discrimination " into the youtube search box and you will see first hand evidence of media freedom in the U.S Where as in China the only media on race relations would be C.C.P propoganda designed to brain wash the population.

[AntiDefm]

@whytedog BTW, do a search on "Thanks God for Dead Soldiers" on YouTube or Google.

Open your evil eyes, God Hate America, god Hate You!

Chinese won't say that, BUT WE WILL !!!

May God save your American evil souls!

[whytedog]

@AntiDefm

Is it just me or can anyone else see the painful irony that you are using a media platform i.e. "You Tube" a media platform which facilitates the dissemination of different ideas, narratives and theories which is blocked inside of the People's Republic of China thanks to the great firewall of China along with any other blog or web page that goes against the narrow party sanctioned version of reality to accuse American society of brainwashing its inhabitants.

[AntiDefm]

@whytedog

America Is Cursed! God Hate America!

Thanks God for American Dead Soldiers in Iraq, Afghanistan and in all the foreign lands that they shouldn't be there!

Let's pray to God, May God forgive all the evil things Americans have done in foreign lands, may God save you American evil souls!

[whytedog]

@AntiDefm

Yes, Kevin Rudd may have had some differences with the U.S but then again even in the best relationships people have differences but the thing is Australia is still a committed member of ANZUS and made on ongoing committment to putting some of the best front line troops on the ground in Afghanistan including the Australian S.A.S which is absolutely second to none amongst the special forces. Whats more Australia's is developing it's military to work along side the U.S

[mikenagoya]

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[Searching4Truth1]

Wasn't the same thing said of the Ruskies not so long ago?

Wikileaks was given information by an anonymous whistle blower. They published the info on the web. The New York Times, The Guardian, La Monde, El Pais and Der Spiegel, along with other news outlets such as TV and Cable programs, also published this info.

Why aren't the owners of these news organizations being threatened with arrest, and hacked, like Julian Assange is?