I love Muslim like any human beings in the world and I must admit that I met some of them whom I consider one of the best people I have ever met. However I do believe that there is something in that religion that is not quite right. We know all religions of the world teach love, compassion and peace. There has not been one movement in the name of Islam without violence and blood shed. What can explain that?
Bush finally found the weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq.
These were in the form of size 9 scud missile (Shoes) which really were a
Message of Mass Democracy when the shoes were projected towards the coward.
This projection aimed at Bush was very powerful as it conveyed sentiments from the billions of voices all over the world and carried their resentment towards Bush
(A.K.A) Bush and Blair 2 cheeks of a Donkeys Ass but later retracted after several donkeys complained of being offended
'Behead those who insult islam'; im sure you are familiar with this rant- im aware many muslims wouldn't dream of acting in this way, so why is it these people found something in Islam to encourage them to make such slogans. It wasn't 'behead those who insult democracy' or 'behead those who insult sikhism' If 'Islam means peace' why do you think these people seriously misinterpreted it?
some muslims are violent extremists. So what? what has the behaviour of a tiny minority got to do with the majority of muslims? The fact that they share the same religion is only relevant to those - like you - that see all muslims as a problem.
Nothing, it has nothing to do with the majority of muslims.
But the ones that are behaving like douche-bags are doing so because of the way they have interpreted the religion. If these guys were atheists they'd be playing pro evo and jerking off like everyone else.
It's the twats coupled with the religion that's the problem. Just like you get twat christians, jews and atheists. Only thing is twat christians just knock on your door not bombing a load of buses or flying into buildings...
Twat atheists (like me) are offensive when discussing religion, but I can't remember a time when a load of atheists kidknapped some poor bloke on his holiday and cut off his head.
There's twats in any pigeonhole of people. It's just that some do completely abhorrent things.
cont... distancing themselves from Maoism or Stalinism because 'it wasn't real communism'. Too many muslims distance themselves from militant islamism because 'it isn't really Islam'- EXCEPT THAT IT IS. I admit that some people criticising Islam are hate filled idiots- so why can't you admit some muslims are militant islamists? And by making these points I AM NOT endorsing 42 days or certain other domestic policies which have been seriously abused.
cont... such should be open to criticism like any other set of believes. Its obvious 1.3 billion people aren't terrorists; the majority are not, but its also obvious that islamist violence is very real and arguably growing. Recent events in Algeria and India prove this.
You are attacking muslims for "not accepting islamic extremism exists". This speaker is arguing that the roots of extremism are not based in islam but are caused by an imperial foreign policy that kills scores of innocent muslim civilians and a domestic policy that targets all muslims for stop and search, attacks their right to wear the clothes they wear and pretends that this is somehow liberal and secular. It's not.
there's over 6 Billion people on the planet, In Britain there's about 3 million muslims out of a total population of over 60 million. Do the maths moron.
adycousins- A bad foreign policy is not an excuse for treason which is exactly what the 7/7 jihadists were doing, not to forget the attempted attacks in Birmingham and Exeter. You are just confirming my point about the defensive attitude many muslims take when criticised. You are also distancing terrorism from Islam when it is a blatant fact that some members of the islamic community use violence to express their hatred of western freedom. This is like communists distancing themselves cont...
adycousins...... someone questions an aspect of Islam is a defensive and victimhood position. Basically 'islamophobia' is a way to silence anyone that criticises Islam. Having said that, stupidity and hatred of the kind donal56 displays does exist.
Islamophobia isn't about criticising Islam it's holding islam and muslims responsible for terrorism and expecting every muslim to apologize for things that are nothing to do with them. You should apologize therefore for the racist comments that are made by those who share your anti-muslim views.
adycousins- I have already made it clear my views on donal56. I DID NOT say muslims should apologise for Islamist terrorists, simply that they acknowledge their existence. I agree with Sadiq Khan (MP for Tooting) in his recent statements on the subject. You say islamophobia isn't about criticising Islam and yet whenever anyone publicly criticises Islam in the UK, they are branded an ignorant racist. This is the same as saying every muslim is a terrorist. Islam is a set of believes and as cont...
would you say that Judaism is simply a set of ideas? You hold Salma responsible for despotic Islamic regimes because she is a muslim. You imply that islam and democracy are incompatible. You hold the same point of view as an bin Laden supporter. Salma lives here, shes a British citizen, a councillor and a participant in our democratic process. She has the same rights to criticise government policy and bigotry as you do.
adycousins- Because I hold a position that donal56 may hold, that does not make us the same but I don't deny he holds that position. If more moderate muslims could admit that extremist muslims existed then there would be less ground to generalise muslims which I think is unfair. Your response is an example of how instead of admitting the problem of militant islamism is real many (but certainly not all) muslims resort to victimhood and defensive status. Using 'Islamophobia' every time cont...
Most Americans are good people...but there's a lot of Islamophobia.
My aunt lives in Texas and is not voting for Obama because she thinks he is a Muslim and that Muslims are trying to overrun America!
I was talking to another one of my relations in America and one said Muslims follow a bad God!
Now these are my relations. They're good people and originally from Ireland, but 20 years of propaganda has took them. There's huge Islamophobia in America.
But Islam only restricts freedom, democracy + individualism when it is imposed by authorities(e.g. in Iran) Yaqoob means something different: the FREEDOM of the INDIVIDUAL in a DEMOCRATIC society to practice their own religion.
For your own info: Guevara actually became very critical of the Cuban model which is why he left Cuba so I don't see any inconsistency there.
There is a problem in her comparison of Islam with Communism. The problem is, she's right. They are both systems of thought which are wholly and openly (and even proudly) opposed to the ideals of freedom, democracy, and the rights of the individual which allow them such resonant voice. I have never heard anyone argue so convincingly against their own cause since one of the fireman's strike leaders appeared in front of a Che Guevara poster. That was funny. try forming a Union in Cuba now!
the word islam comes from the salam which means peace- and islam comes from salam, islam means,acceptance,submission,obiedience to the will of god, what is saddining is that people who claim to believe in reason and fairness,unfairly take bits of quran out of context,giving the impression that islam supports murder
islam supports jihad and respect for Islam and all prophets, Islam is about peace and is about war. Islam is not one thing, it is many things, Islam is broad and whatever is within the context of islam is justified in detail. They may bring out bits of the quran, but those who are ignorant do not research it- so research it people, it would do you some justice and less ignorance.
I am an atheist but I see the mark of the beast on Bush and Blaire's ugly faces; with their shameful support for Israel I surprised they show themselves in public let alone look people in the eye.
They rule the world and we can't do anything about it. Thatz wut sux. They will go on unless we do something to stop it...and that is by spreading the message. :)
I love Muslim like any human beings in the world and I must admit that I met some of them whom I consider one of the best people I have ever met. However I do believe that there is something in that religion that is not quite right. We know all religions of the world teach love, compassion and peace. There has not been one movement in the name of Islam without violence and blood shed. What can explain that?
najiballah1 1 year ago
Bush finally found the weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq.
These were in the form of size 9 scud missile (Shoes) which really were a
Message of Mass Democracy when the shoes were projected towards the coward.
This projection aimed at Bush was very powerful as it conveyed sentiments from the billions of voices all over the world and carried their resentment towards Bush
(A.K.A) Bush and Blair 2 cheeks of a Donkeys Ass but later retracted after several donkeys complained of being offended
NRG242X 3 years ago
'Behead those who insult islam'; im sure you are familiar with this rant- im aware many muslims wouldn't dream of acting in this way, so why is it these people found something in Islam to encourage them to make such slogans. It wasn't 'behead those who insult democracy' or 'behead those who insult sikhism' If 'Islam means peace' why do you think these people seriously misinterpreted it?
CULAVE 3 years ago
some muslims are violent extremists. So what? what has the behaviour of a tiny minority got to do with the majority of muslims? The fact that they share the same religion is only relevant to those - like you - that see all muslims as a problem.
adycousins 3 years ago
Nothing, it has nothing to do with the majority of muslims.
But the ones that are behaving like douche-bags are doing so because of the way they have interpreted the religion. If these guys were atheists they'd be playing pro evo and jerking off like everyone else.
It's the twats coupled with the religion that's the problem. Just like you get twat christians, jews and atheists. Only thing is twat christians just knock on your door not bombing a load of buses or flying into buildings...
legoflamb504 2 years ago
Twat atheists (like me) are offensive when discussing religion, but I can't remember a time when a load of atheists kidknapped some poor bloke on his holiday and cut off his head.
There's twats in any pigeonhole of people. It's just that some do completely abhorrent things.
legoflamb504 2 years ago
cont... distancing themselves from Maoism or Stalinism because 'it wasn't real communism'. Too many muslims distance themselves from militant islamism because 'it isn't really Islam'- EXCEPT THAT IT IS. I admit that some people criticising Islam are hate filled idiots- so why can't you admit some muslims are militant islamists? And by making these points I AM NOT endorsing 42 days or certain other domestic policies which have been seriously abused.
CULAVE 3 years ago
cont... such should be open to criticism like any other set of believes. Its obvious 1.3 billion people aren't terrorists; the majority are not, but its also obvious that islamist violence is very real and arguably growing. Recent events in Algeria and India prove this.
CULAVE 3 years ago
You are attacking muslims for "not accepting islamic extremism exists". This speaker is arguing that the roots of extremism are not based in islam but are caused by an imperial foreign policy that kills scores of innocent muslim civilians and a domestic policy that targets all muslims for stop and search, attacks their right to wear the clothes they wear and pretends that this is somehow liberal and secular. It's not.
adycousins 3 years ago
Muslims are a minority and are under attack. The enemy of democracy is not muslims but our own governments
adycousins 3 years ago
Muslims are a minority? Some minority! 1.8 billion at last count I believe.
CharmingLordSausage 2 years ago
there's over 6 Billion people on the planet, In Britain there's about 3 million muslims out of a total population of over 60 million. Do the maths moron.
adycousins 2 years ago
@adycousins
How would Muslims treat minorities in an Islamic state ?
Homosexuals ?
Atheists ?
Polytheists ?
Pagans ?
What do you reckon ?
yington 2 years ago
can you supplu is with links to where of which you receive such statistics
BOLSHEVIXTREME 2 years ago
adycousins- A bad foreign policy is not an excuse for treason which is exactly what the 7/7 jihadists were doing, not to forget the attempted attacks in Birmingham and Exeter. You are just confirming my point about the defensive attitude many muslims take when criticised. You are also distancing terrorism from Islam when it is a blatant fact that some members of the islamic community use violence to express their hatred of western freedom. This is like communists distancing themselves cont...
CULAVE 3 years ago
adycousins...... someone questions an aspect of Islam is a defensive and victimhood position. Basically 'islamophobia' is a way to silence anyone that criticises Islam. Having said that, stupidity and hatred of the kind donal56 displays does exist.
CULAVE 3 years ago
Islamophobia isn't about criticising Islam it's holding islam and muslims responsible for terrorism and expecting every muslim to apologize for things that are nothing to do with them. You should apologize therefore for the racist comments that are made by those who share your anti-muslim views.
adycousins 3 years ago
adycousins- I have already made it clear my views on donal56. I DID NOT say muslims should apologise for Islamist terrorists, simply that they acknowledge their existence. I agree with Sadiq Khan (MP for Tooting) in his recent statements on the subject. You say islamophobia isn't about criticising Islam and yet whenever anyone publicly criticises Islam in the UK, they are branded an ignorant racist. This is the same as saying every muslim is a terrorist. Islam is a set of believes and as cont...
CULAVE 3 years ago
would you say that Judaism is simply a set of ideas? You hold Salma responsible for despotic Islamic regimes because she is a muslim. You imply that islam and democracy are incompatible. You hold the same point of view as an bin Laden supporter. Salma lives here, shes a British citizen, a councillor and a participant in our democratic process. She has the same rights to criticise government policy and bigotry as you do.
adycousins 3 years ago
donal56- if we want to stand up to Islamism, that is not the way to go about it.
CULAVE 3 years ago
By your use of the word "we" you obviously consider racist filth like donal56 to be part of your campaign against islam.
adycousins 3 years ago
adycousins- Because I hold a position that donal56 may hold, that does not make us the same but I don't deny he holds that position. If more moderate muslims could admit that extremist muslims existed then there would be less ground to generalise muslims which I think is unfair. Your response is an example of how instead of admitting the problem of militant islamism is real many (but certainly not all) muslims resort to victimhood and defensive status. Using 'Islamophobia' every time cont...
CULAVE 3 years ago
adycousins- furthermore, are you suggesting anyone critical of Islam is a hate filled racist?
CULAVE 3 years ago
Most Americans are good people...but there's a lot of Islamophobia.
My aunt lives in Texas and is not voting for Obama because she thinks he is a Muslim and that Muslims are trying to overrun America!
I was talking to another one of my relations in America and one said Muslims follow a bad God!
Now these are my relations. They're good people and originally from Ireland, but 20 years of propaganda has took them. There's huge Islamophobia in America.
AsianPolitics 4 years ago
I agree
Glahnnia 3 years ago
But Islam only restricts freedom, democracy + individualism when it is imposed by authorities(e.g. in Iran) Yaqoob means something different: the FREEDOM of the INDIVIDUAL in a DEMOCRATIC society to practice their own religion.
For your own info: Guevara actually became very critical of the Cuban model which is why he left Cuba so I don't see any inconsistency there.
PinkoPapist89 4 years ago
There is a problem in her comparison of Islam with Communism. The problem is, she's right. They are both systems of thought which are wholly and openly (and even proudly) opposed to the ideals of freedom, democracy, and the rights of the individual which allow them such resonant voice. I have never heard anyone argue so convincingly against their own cause since one of the fireman's strike leaders appeared in front of a Che Guevara poster. That was funny. try forming a Union in Cuba now!
campbellonia 5 years ago
We want what they have, that's why we're attacking their religion.
migrantworker007 5 years ago
the word islam comes from the salam which means peace- and islam comes from salam, islam means,acceptance,submission,obiedience to the will of god, what is saddining is that people who claim to believe in reason and fairness,unfairly take bits of quran out of context,giving the impression that islam supports murder
zaman27 5 years ago
islam supports jihad and respect for Islam and all prophets, Islam is about peace and is about war. Islam is not one thing, it is many things, Islam is broad and whatever is within the context of islam is justified in detail. They may bring out bits of the quran, but those who are ignorant do not research it- so research it people, it would do you some justice and less ignorance.
xnermeenx 5 years ago
important stuff this.
icecorescientist 5 years ago
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straightchris 5 years ago
I totally agree with you Chris.
moonlightdance 5 years ago
I am an atheist but I see the mark of the beast on Bush and Blaire's ugly faces; with their shameful support for Israel I surprised they show themselves in public let alone look people in the eye.
straightchris 5 years ago
They rule the world and we can't do anything about it. Thatz wut sux. They will go on unless we do something to stop it...and that is by spreading the message. :)
phatty4life 5 years ago