The old couple were amazing, and that family friend who threatened to kill the D.A or whomever he was was my hero.... cant believe the case wasnt immeadiatley dismissed by the judge.
THIS IS THE BEST MOVIE I HAVE EVER SEEN. THE NYS POLICE SHOULD BE ASHAMED FOR RAIL ROADING THIS MAN INTO A CONFESSION THEY KNEW HE COULD BARELY READ AND WRITE. I AM PROUD TO COME FROM PEOPLE LIKE THIS HARDWORKING AND HONEST. LONG LIVE THE FARMER WITHOUT HIM WE ALL STARVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@dadsgirl0423 Could you be anymore fucking ignorant? You shouldn't be proud of the way they portray people like that. They picked the most backwoods people they could find for this documentary so they could make us seem like dumb country folk. The Ward boys bring disgrace to Madison County and its unfortunate because there is a lot of intelligent people from that town.
@renee2167 COULD I BE MORE IGONORANT? YOU SHOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE BY OPENING UP YOUR UNEDUCATED, BIG MOUTH. YOU ARE MORE IGNORANT THAN THESE MEN COULD EVER BE. YOU BRING MORE DISGRACE TO THIS TOWN THAN THESE MEN COULD EVER. WHAT A LOWLIFE PIECE OF TRASH YOU ARE.
This video is a joke, anyone who wants to believe that's how Munnsville and Madison County really are is no better than the hicks they show in this movie. That is not what real Munnsville is.
The NYS Police didn't do anything obviously wrong as I saw it portrayed in the documentary. In my opinion the case comes down to he-said, he-said regarding confession statements. I think it was likely a mercy killing. Both Adelbert & Lyman were alleged to have signed statements acknowledging Adelbert suffocated William to end his suffering, but with Roscoe & defense att. coaching them, statements retracted. Don't think Adelbert shouldve served time, but he prolly did it IMO.
@mapscannotcontainme THEY DIDN'T?????????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? THE HELL THEY DIDN'T. THE NYS POLICE KNEW THAT MAN COULD BARELY READ AND WRITE AND THEY COERCED HIM INTO SIGNING A CONFESSION. DELBERT'S DEFENSE ATTORNEY WAS EVEN SHOCKED AT WHAT THEY DID. MAYBE YOU SHOULD GO BACK AND LISTEN AGAIN. THEY KNEW EXACLTY WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND SHOULD BE ASHAMED.
Both Lyman and Adelbert signed statements acknowledging they discussed killing William and Adelbert admitted he killed him and allegedly showed them how he did. I've watched the documentary a few times now and regardless of what Adelbert's defense attorney says. You're buying into the drama. The police did their job and weren't out to railroad some poor, mentally deficient farmer. Notice how they hardly questioned the investigators in the documentary?
@mapscannotcontainme I KNOW THIS FAMILY PERSONALLY DO YOU? DELBERT'S IQ WAS 68, MENTALLY RETARDED IS 70. TELL ME WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS MAN KNEW WHAT HE WAS SIGNING? THE NYS POLICE, TOLD HIM IF HE SIGNED IT HE COULD GO HOME. THEY DIDN'T QUESTION THE INVESTIGATORS BECAUSE THEY DECLINED THE INTERVIEW. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? I HOPE THEY GET WHAT THEY DESERVE FOR WHAT THEY DID TO THIS FAMILY.
I know the investigators. They didn't decline to be interviewed. One of them was in fact interviewed and the documentarians showed him for all of 40 seconds and huge in frame. The documentary film makers were less concerned with the innocence or guilt of Adelbert and more concerned with how the family and town responded.
I didn't say Adelbert should have been incarcerated. I just said I think based on documentary there's evidence to support conclusion he killed William.
@mapscannotcontainme Been in the business a long time and I can assure you it's not a matter of "he said". The fact is, at least in the state of CA, these types of confessions are worthless. The man was mentally retarded. These days this wouldn't fly in any courtroom unless the object would be to place him in state care.
The ward brothers are all dead and my uncle harry is also dead. Most of the older people that you see in this movie are dead. I miss my uncle harry a lot . He was also a dairy farmer and a good friend of the ward brothers. I pray for them all.
Home sick with a cold and stumbled upon this Great film being broadcast on TV ..........at times I could have used subtitles though to understand what the brothers were saying..... Am I the only one who had a hard time understanding them at times ? My heart went out to Lyman ........sorry to see that Delbert has passed since it was filmed. So glad I came upon it. Outstanding.
There has always been a clash between rural NYS and the big cities, esp. NYC. They push the rural areas around without any apparent conscience at all. Outside of my hometown is the Papacton Reservoir, for NYC water supply. A few farming towns were completely wiped out for the construction of that dam, but that's innocent child's play compared to the way they are willing to destroy a man's life&rep, a whole family's life,losers to them, to get what they want. Disgusting, but very believable.
I just watched this movie tonight. I was born and grew up in a small NY dairy farming town very much like Munnsville. I could have laughed when the Madison Co's district attorney's office professed outrage that anyone would suggest that large land developers and corp. businesses, politicians, & law enforcement would be in cahoots against hard-working farmers, to discredit them, in this case the feeble, aging Ward Brothers, to get their land. Any student of NYS history&NYC history would laugh.
@marsz510 Yeah, that struck me too... really should've gotten a diff person to do the narration. GREAT film tho, one of the best docs you'll ever see!
This trailer comes no where close to describing this movie. This is one of the best films (not only documentaries) ever made. Everyone should watch this, it'll help folks understand American Justice, and people in general, film doesn't get any more real than this.
this is one of my favorite all time movies...because it is true and has elements of humanity all over it... we are all Lyman in some ways; we are all each of the boys in some ways...
The old couple were amazing, and that family friend who threatened to kill the D.A or whomever he was was my hero.... cant believe the case wasnt immeadiatley dismissed by the judge.
mannzymunster 4 months ago
THIS IS THE BEST MOVIE I HAVE EVER SEEN. THE NYS POLICE SHOULD BE ASHAMED FOR RAIL ROADING THIS MAN INTO A CONFESSION THEY KNEW HE COULD BARELY READ AND WRITE. I AM PROUD TO COME FROM PEOPLE LIKE THIS HARDWORKING AND HONEST. LONG LIVE THE FARMER WITHOUT HIM WE ALL STARVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dadsgirl0423 5 months ago
@dadsgirl0423 Could you be anymore fucking ignorant? You shouldn't be proud of the way they portray people like that. They picked the most backwoods people they could find for this documentary so they could make us seem like dumb country folk. The Ward boys bring disgrace to Madison County and its unfortunate because there is a lot of intelligent people from that town.
renee2167 3 months ago
@renee2167 COULD I BE MORE IGONORANT? YOU SHOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE BY OPENING UP YOUR UNEDUCATED, BIG MOUTH. YOU ARE MORE IGNORANT THAN THESE MEN COULD EVER BE. YOU BRING MORE DISGRACE TO THIS TOWN THAN THESE MEN COULD EVER. WHAT A LOWLIFE PIECE OF TRASH YOU ARE.
dadsgirl0423 3 months ago
This video is a joke, anyone who wants to believe that's how Munnsville and Madison County really are is no better than the hicks they show in this movie. That is not what real Munnsville is.
renee2167 3 months ago
@dadsgirl0423
The NYS Police didn't do anything obviously wrong as I saw it portrayed in the documentary. In my opinion the case comes down to he-said, he-said regarding confession statements. I think it was likely a mercy killing. Both Adelbert & Lyman were alleged to have signed statements acknowledging Adelbert suffocated William to end his suffering, but with Roscoe & defense att. coaching them, statements retracted. Don't think Adelbert shouldve served time, but he prolly did it IMO.
mapscannotcontainme 3 weeks ago
@mapscannotcontainme THEY DIDN'T?????????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? THE HELL THEY DIDN'T. THE NYS POLICE KNEW THAT MAN COULD BARELY READ AND WRITE AND THEY COERCED HIM INTO SIGNING A CONFESSION. DELBERT'S DEFENSE ATTORNEY WAS EVEN SHOCKED AT WHAT THEY DID. MAYBE YOU SHOULD GO BACK AND LISTEN AGAIN. THEY KNEW EXACLTY WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND SHOULD BE ASHAMED.
dadsgirl0423 3 weeks ago
@dadsgirl0423
Both Lyman and Adelbert signed statements acknowledging they discussed killing William and Adelbert admitted he killed him and allegedly showed them how he did. I've watched the documentary a few times now and regardless of what Adelbert's defense attorney says. You're buying into the drama. The police did their job and weren't out to railroad some poor, mentally deficient farmer. Notice how they hardly questioned the investigators in the documentary?
mapscannotcontainme 3 weeks ago
@mapscannotcontainme I KNOW THIS FAMILY PERSONALLY DO YOU? DELBERT'S IQ WAS 68, MENTALLY RETARDED IS 70. TELL ME WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS MAN KNEW WHAT HE WAS SIGNING? THE NYS POLICE, TOLD HIM IF HE SIGNED IT HE COULD GO HOME. THEY DIDN'T QUESTION THE INVESTIGATORS BECAUSE THEY DECLINED THE INTERVIEW. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? I HOPE THEY GET WHAT THEY DESERVE FOR WHAT THEY DID TO THIS FAMILY.
dadsgirl0423 3 weeks ago
@dadsgirl0423 EXCUSE ME HIS IQ WAS 64.
dadsgirl0423 3 weeks ago
@dadsgirl0423
I know the investigators. They didn't decline to be interviewed. One of them was in fact interviewed and the documentarians showed him for all of 40 seconds and huge in frame. The documentary film makers were less concerned with the innocence or guilt of Adelbert and more concerned with how the family and town responded.
I didn't say Adelbert should have been incarcerated. I just said I think based on documentary there's evidence to support conclusion he killed William.
mapscannotcontainme 2 weeks ago
@mapscannotcontainme Been in the business a long time and I can assure you it's not a matter of "he said". The fact is, at least in the state of CA, these types of confessions are worthless. The man was mentally retarded. These days this wouldn't fly in any courtroom unless the object would be to place him in state care.
theroncon 2 weeks ago
yeah what a crap trailer. but the movie is fantastic!
ge0vanny01 11 months ago
What's with this trailer? I think the person narrating this trailer was the wrong man for the job.lol
brian8793 1 year ago
The Ward boys are good men. Especially Delbert. There's no way that ole boy murdered his dear brother. Any fool can see that...
brian8793 1 year ago
The ward brothers are all dead and my uncle harry is also dead. Most of the older people that you see in this movie are dead. I miss my uncle harry a lot . He was also a dairy farmer and a good friend of the ward brothers. I pray for them all.
tparry03311982 1 year ago
Anyone know how are the old brothers are doing these days? Hope the last few years have been kind to them. Loved the film.
Freakster1970 1 year ago
@Freakster1970
According to Wikipedia the last two of the Brothers died in 2007
Bieling3 1 year ago
Home sick with a cold and stumbled upon this Great film being broadcast on TV ..........at times I could have used subtitles though to understand what the brothers were saying..... Am I the only one who had a hard time understanding them at times ? My heart went out to Lyman ........sorry to see that Delbert has passed since it was filmed. So glad I came upon it. Outstanding.
mukwah1111 1 year ago
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GeneveWelleems 1 year ago
There has always been a clash between rural NYS and the big cities, esp. NYC. They push the rural areas around without any apparent conscience at all. Outside of my hometown is the Papacton Reservoir, for NYC water supply. A few farming towns were completely wiped out for the construction of that dam, but that's innocent child's play compared to the way they are willing to destroy a man's life&rep, a whole family's life,losers to them, to get what they want. Disgusting, but very believable.
starbugster 2 years ago
I just watched this movie tonight. I was born and grew up in a small NY dairy farming town very much like Munnsville. I could have laughed when the Madison Co's district attorney's office professed outrage that anyone would suggest that large land developers and corp. businesses, politicians, & law enforcement would be in cahoots against hard-working farmers, to discredit them, in this case the feeble, aging Ward Brothers, to get their land. Any student of NYS history&NYC history would laugh.
starbugster 2 years ago
I just watched this movie and loved it.
Sevensixseven78 2 years ago
I've seen the film and it is compelling. This sweet plastic-tone voice over, does not not give this film justice.
marsz510 2 years ago 9
@marsz510 Yeah, that struck me too... really should've gotten a diff person to do the narration. GREAT film tho, one of the best docs you'll ever see!
tommyt1971 8 months ago
This trailer comes no where close to describing this movie. This is one of the best films (not only documentaries) ever made. Everyone should watch this, it'll help folks understand American Justice, and people in general, film doesn't get any more real than this.
xxWhiteBrickWallxx 2 years ago
Too little of this stuff produced.
mediamadman747 2 years ago
I love this film...Bravo!
themrlownote 2 years ago
this is one of my favorite all time movies...because it is true and has elements of humanity all over it... we are all Lyman in some ways; we are all each of the boys in some ways...
RandomPerson5004 2 years ago 5