one thing I like about a Le Mans race - watching the cars going down the Mulsanne - really can enjoy the speed difference and the faster ones manuevering amongst the slower ones - no other series/race can provide such competition and make it so fun to watch
The speed record for the circuit was set in 1989 by a WM Peugeot. It had it all holes taped shut for less drag, then it went out and did 253 mph down the Mulsanne, a record to this day.
@Mr450 the best time by the Toyota GT-One was just 3:29.930 so don't say that is faster than the 908 and the R10, as for the Sauber and the 787B, those raced before the two chicanes were added to the mulsanne straight and the two turns after Dunlop bridge, Gropu C cars that raced after those changes take effect had times around highs 3:30's with the exception of the Peugeot 905b.
Well back in those days, they were group c cars except for the toyota gt1. Group C had unlimited horsepower, so some of the cars were putting out over 1000 bhp. Then the ACO deemed them to dangerous and slowed them down dramatically.
Not all of us like nascar, personally I hate it... I see nascar as a joke and enjoy sports car racing, I wish I had channels like motors tv so I could watch LMS and WRC and FIA Gt sereis.
that's an awesome goal - wish you luck - I share the same goal, but more I'd like to build the car rather than drive it - already half way there by studying engineering, just don't know who to talk to get hired by those teams who race at Le Mans
I mean, like...is there a difference to their porformance? or is one harder to drive than the other? Im sure the open-cockpit would be a little harder because of the wind, right??
The truth is in 2007 The Peugeot 908 was very unreliable in 24 hour tests so Peugeot tuned the car down to around 670hp while the Audis tuned their car up to around 690hp. Peugeot ran a low downforce configuration to try and make up for the lower horsepower, thats why they are slower through the corners.
However for 2008 Peugeot has found reliability and have tuned the 908 to around 720 HP. Now Peugeot 5 mph faster down straights and 2 mph faster in turns. LeMans will be very close in 2008
yeah i heard that this is the last year for open cockpit cars which in my opinion is stupid cause i find they look better hopefully some people agree with me
and by the way, as far as this video goes...audi showed an excellent race pace that overwhelmed the peugeots, which looked a bit faster in qualifying. i guess audi kept their true performance as a surprise for the race :P
well there're lots of drivers who actually find the mulsanne chicane version more dangerous than the one without them, and also a lot more demanding for the car's mechanics. and the cars still do over 330 km/h on this configuration of the track, i can't see why 380-400 km/h would be that much more dangerous than 330 km/h. i mean, it's a respectable speed anyway, right? for instance, the audi r10 did 339 km/h in 2007.
No, see I was just behind the podium on top of the pits. And unfortunately he went straight into the post race press conference. All of the podium finishers were back there talking before walking inside though. Werner, Massen, Luhr, McNish, Bernhard. It was neat. By the way, I can't see the Peugot beating the R10 Audi this year
The Audis are faster because the Peugeots have trouble braking and turning at the same time because the power steering was 'saturated'. Notice that is where Audi makes alot of their time.
Peugeot most likely has solved this problem and should be much quicker at Le Mans this year
The fast car of the 24h 2007 did 330 moreless. But the fastest car ever through the Hunaudieres straight line was the 1988 WM Peugeot P88, it did 406km/h. The year after, a Mercedes did 401 km/h. But with the two chicanes installed in the early 90s it's impossible to rich 370km/h.
Even if there were no chicanes (which would be good) the speeds now would still not be as high as in the late 80s. Remember LMPs are not as powerful as group C cars. LMPs do about 340km/h with the chicanes, without they could probably reach about 370km/h the true top speed, depending on gearing and downforce. Only the group C cars broke 400km/h. However i think it's a shame that the CanAm cars of the early 70s never raced at lemans. The 917/30 could break 400km/h
Fucking Jean Marie Balestre. He's a killjoy if there ever was one.
FACT: when the chicanes were introduced (in 1990),there were two HUGE accidents and one HUGE failure because of the chicanes happened: Jonathan Palmer crashed on Qualifying at 215mph, Massimo Magani during the night of the race, and if I remember correctly, James Weaver picked up debris and caused his tire to deflate, finally blowing up the engine.
I saw a video of one of the Toyota prototypes in 1998 or so completly shatter its rear suspension coming up to the second chicane, the one infront of the the really big bumps. The tv reporter, formerly a british lemans driver who had driven with and without the chicances, said that he had something similar happen to him at that chicane; he was thankful that the chicanes had slowed the cars down or else, at a faster speed over those bumps he would have died.
i have to seed every thing back before i start uploading vids here again. just sign up at racing underground, the full link is in my profile. they got the entire race there.
damn how fast is Capello, 3-4 secs a lap quicker than the rest! Would've son for sure if it wasn't for the tyre loss they were the class act of the field
Love LeMans. In my opinion of all the races in the world this one is in a class of its own. That said go Audi and Corvette.
KA128183 3 days ago
Anyone know when Le Mans is this year.
Nascarking24 9 months ago
@Nascarking24 watch the show Fast Lane Daily, they have daily episodes on youtube, thier shakedown video has all that info bro.
lovelyigorilla 9 months ago
@Nascarking24 June 11-12th... Go Peugeot, and Porsche
byffonwrx 9 months ago
this le mans track is a big deja vu cos i go on forza 3 xD
ffsyourself 9 months ago
one thing I like about a Le Mans race - watching the cars going down the Mulsanne - really can enjoy the speed difference and the faster ones manuevering amongst the slower ones - no other series/race can provide such competition and make it so fun to watch
ratzinator1 11 months ago
I wish they would show some more of the other classes.
leylandcarsloverslea 1 year ago
The speed record for the circuit was set in 1989 by a WM Peugeot. It had it all holes taped shut for less drag, then it went out and did 253 mph down the Mulsanne, a record to this day.
TheCarlsonsRaiders 1 year ago
@Mr450 the best time by the Toyota GT-One was just 3:29.930 so don't say that is faster than the 908 and the R10, as for the Sauber and the 787B, those raced before the two chicanes were added to the mulsanne straight and the two turns after Dunlop bridge, Gropu C cars that raced after those changes take effect had times around highs 3:30's with the exception of the Peugeot 905b.
HoveringAboveMyself 2 years ago
nothing to heard with those crapy diesel cars...too bad
gorka222 2 years ago
Well back in those days, they were group c cars except for the toyota gt1. Group C had unlimited horsepower, so some of the cars were putting out over 1000 bhp. Then the ACO deemed them to dangerous and slowed them down dramatically.
iDarkspeed 2 years ago
They had built 2 chicanes on and 2 curves after the Dunlop Bridge, thats make the race track also slower.
honda900000 2 years ago 2
787B forever
Chugabun 3 years ago
I hope i'm going to race 24h Le Mans at least once in my life !
I'm 14 years old and I'm karting driver, racing is my passion !
pierrickx89 3 years ago 15
Good luck with that, have you given Formula 1 any thought?
batou06 3 years ago
man i feel ya cuz in north america its nascar shit all the time u r lucky to be in europe to see this stuff lol
unlawf 3 years ago 2
Not all of us like nascar, personally I hate it... I see nascar as a joke and enjoy sports car racing, I wish I had channels like motors tv so I could watch LMS and WRC and FIA Gt sereis.
iDarkspeed 2 years ago 2
@pierrickx89 Good for you. Keep at it buddy, don't give up! :D
TFToxixity 1 year ago
@pierrickx89
that's an awesome goal - wish you luck - I share the same goal, but more I'd like to build the car rather than drive it - already half way there by studying engineering, just don't know who to talk to get hired by those teams who race at Le Mans
ratzinator1 11 months ago
@pierrickx89 nice dream. Good that you told us.
Andrzej14414 10 months ago
2 very good looking cars and fast too!
Burkealator 3 years ago
Audi has always been strong in my opinion.
racer99a 3 years ago 4
Whats the difference between the open-cockpit cars and the closed cars?
WWMac 3 years ago
you answer to yourself man lol.what the differnce between a normal car and a cabrio car? :)
gorka222 2 years ago
I mean, like...is there a difference to their porformance? or is one harder to drive than the other? Im sure the open-cockpit would be a little harder because of the wind, right??
WWMac 2 years ago
BTW the co-commentator is David Leslie who died a few months ago at in a air crash. RIP Sorely missed.
dccodring21 3 years ago
at* whoops.
dccodring21 3 years ago
I'm curious about what happens this year! Peugeot has become stronger but Audi still knows how to win a race. Beeing faster isn't enough
bere5de 3 years ago
Do they shit in their pants? regarding 24h
DeathUnlimited69 3 years ago
The truth is in 2007 The Peugeot 908 was very unreliable in 24 hour tests so Peugeot tuned the car down to around 670hp while the Audis tuned their car up to around 690hp. Peugeot ran a low downforce configuration to try and make up for the lower horsepower, thats why they are slower through the corners.
However for 2008 Peugeot has found reliability and have tuned the 908 to around 720 HP. Now Peugeot 5 mph faster down straights and 2 mph faster in turns. LeMans will be very close in 2008
hacimed 3 years ago
I agree. I am a huge audi fan, but face the truth, Peugeot is really killing them. Do u know why they failed at sebring 2008
AudiR10Guy 3 years ago
I agree. I am a huge audi fan, but face the truth, Peugeot is really killing them. Do u know why they failed at sebring 2008
AudiR10Guy 3 years ago
were audi r 10s in this race
striderhiryu201 3 years ago
yeah i heard that this is the last year for open cockpit cars which in my opinion is stupid cause i find they look better hopefully some people agree with me
lloydgarnett 4 years ago
its jus coz its safer an more aero dynamic with the roof
serridgeas 3 years ago
i agree :) open cockpits do look better
mcmarga 3 years ago
yeah but i was told this is the last year for open cars(2008)
lloydgarnett 3 years ago
and by the way, as far as this video goes...audi showed an excellent race pace that overwhelmed the peugeots, which looked a bit faster in qualifying. i guess audi kept their true performance as a surprise for the race :P
Ssseptimiusss 4 years ago
well there're lots of drivers who actually find the mulsanne chicane version more dangerous than the one without them, and also a lot more demanding for the car's mechanics. and the cars still do over 330 km/h on this configuration of the track, i can't see why 380-400 km/h would be that much more dangerous than 330 km/h. i mean, it's a respectable speed anyway, right? for instance, the audi r10 did 339 km/h in 2007.
Ssseptimiusss 4 years ago
Tom Kristensen and Audi i the best... See you on the 1est place 2008
abbruun 4 years ago 2
Oh hell no they are not. Allan McNish and the Audi are the best.
AudiR10Guy 3 years ago
At the 2007 Utah GP I was like 10 feet from Mcnish at the end of the race. Pretty cool, especially when he used to race against Schumacher in karts.
number1Schumacherfan 3 years ago
That is freakin awesome did u get 2 ask questions?
AudiR10Guy 3 years ago
No, see I was just behind the podium on top of the pits. And unfortunately he went straight into the post race press conference. All of the podium finishers were back there talking before walking inside though. Werner, Massen, Luhr, McNish, Bernhard. It was neat. By the way, I can't see the Peugot beating the R10 Audi this year
number1Schumacherfan 3 years ago
The Audis are faster because the Peugeots have trouble braking and turning at the same time because the power steering was 'saturated'. Notice that is where Audi makes alot of their time.
Peugeot most likely has solved this problem and should be much quicker at Le Mans this year
hacimed 4 years ago
The fast car of the 24h 2007 did 330 moreless. But the fastest car ever through the Hunaudieres straight line was the 1988 WM Peugeot P88, it did 406km/h. The year after, a Mercedes did 401 km/h. But with the two chicanes installed in the early 90s it's impossible to rich 370km/h.
ori599gtb 4 years ago
Even if there were no chicanes (which would be good) the speeds now would still not be as high as in the late 80s. Remember LMPs are not as powerful as group C cars. LMPs do about 340km/h with the chicanes, without they could probably reach about 370km/h the true top speed, depending on gearing and downforce. Only the group C cars broke 400km/h. However i think it's a shame that the CanAm cars of the early 70s never raced at lemans. The 917/30 could break 400km/h
golfer0000001 4 years ago
ei guys wath is the max-speed of these too cars??
400 km/h???
joaofarm 4 years ago
The Peugeot managed 340km/h on the mulsanne, i'm not sure what was Audis top speed but they weren't as quick as Peugeot. i'm guessing 335km/h
Porsche911GT1 4 years ago
but =|=| in the wikipedia tell 400 km/h
this cars are prototypes!
joaofarm 4 years ago
whereabouts in wikipedia is this?
Porsche911GT1 4 years ago
write in wikipedia
24h of le mans
joaofarm 4 years ago
maybe in the late 80s but not anymore, they put those chicanes on the straight, which is intended to limit the cars speed.
Porsche911GT1 4 years ago
Fucking Jean Marie Balestre. He's a killjoy if there ever was one.
FACT: when the chicanes were introduced (in 1990),there were two HUGE accidents and one HUGE failure because of the chicanes happened: Jonathan Palmer crashed on Qualifying at 215mph, Massimo Magani during the night of the race, and if I remember correctly, James Weaver picked up debris and caused his tire to deflate, finally blowing up the engine.
mauownage 4 years ago
I saw a video of one of the Toyota prototypes in 1998 or so completly shatter its rear suspension coming up to the second chicane, the one infront of the the really big bumps. The tv reporter, formerly a british lemans driver who had driven with and without the chicances, said that he had something similar happen to him at that chicane; he was thankful that the chicanes had slowed the cars down or else, at a faster speed over those bumps he would have died.
Ill go with the driver here
ToroQ3000 4 years ago
what is the r10's engine output unrestricted?
umaseti 4 years ago
what speeds were reached on the mulsanne this year? i can't find the classification anywhere
golfer0000001 4 years ago
check your PM
Porsche911GT1 4 years ago
PM?
golfer0000001 4 years ago
i sent you a message, since it doesn't allow me to post links in comments.
Porsche911GT1 4 years ago
...thanks for a huge budget
LolaJudd 4 years ago
left.
Jaeger123456789 4 years ago
Bmw leave 1999 le Mans after 1 Victory.
Jaeger123456789 4 years ago
where is BMW? where is BMW? what what? where?
NO WHERE
MUWHAHA HA HAHAH AHah ha hHAhahaaaHHAA
vangoghsear 4 years ago
FIA F1, FIA GT, WTCC n BTCC
GTRboyx 4 years ago
F*CK DIESEL ENGINES !!!
tronxo206 4 years ago
hey torque rules so if you dont mined
STOP TORQUING SHIT. or i'll crap on your mothers pillows.
THUNDERDOMEXXIV 4 years ago
man your videos rock, I love Peugeot
porscheman18 4 years ago
sincerly hope to see as many parts as it takes toget all 24hrs. LOL! extremely wishfull thinking. Thanks for upload
Escalla 4 years ago
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Porsche911GT1 4 years ago
just started browsing that site. WOW!! I have no words to describe my feelings. Thank you just isn't enough.
Escalla 4 years ago
no worries, the reason i set up this account was to promote that site. the only i ask is that you seed back what you've downloaded.
Porsche911GT1 4 years ago
sure, ......how is seeding done? lol I've never attempted to do it before.
Escalla 4 years ago
just leave it uploading when you've finished downloading.
Porsche911GT1 4 years ago
wad website is tat? i also wan to get Lemans race action! dun wanna miss out
GTRboyx 4 years ago
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GTRboyx 4 years ago
sent via pm
Porsche911GT1 4 years ago
yeah what site is it man?
RAFCFOREVER 4 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
the link is my profile
Porsche911GT1 4 years ago
i mean IN my profile
Porsche911GT1 4 years ago
damn how fast is Capello, 3-4 secs a lap quicker than the rest! Would've son for sure if it wasn't for the tyre loss they were the class act of the field
abermouse 4 years ago
AUDI IS THE BEST!
dubnation 4 years ago