White LS6 RX7 FD3S

[pawns17]

1 dislike person drives a scion Tc LuL

[Strongtube68]

how was the wiring when you did the swap? did you get a kit or how did you do it?

[fadedfd]

Very nice FD. She sounds like a fricken beast with that cam.

[mfpimp28]

I love the accelerating sound of LSx engines in FDs. I just hate how loud it is when it idles. When I get an FD I'm seriously going to be debating whether to get an LSx engine or bridgeport the current rotary engine.

[blockheadface]

@mfpimp28 A working low-mileage rotary could probably be sold for decent money to go towards the swap. If it was a high-mileage one though, it probably wouldn't be worth much so I'd personally just drive it until it dies, haha.

[boostedrsx10]

That is incredible and sounds mean as hell! Very nice car!

[Subsw00fers]

They only banned the rotary cause of it's weight .

[Subsw00fers]

You should have just bought a mustang if your going to add in a domestic engine.

This doesn't make it an RX-7 anymore it makes it into a muscle. Heck why not buy An S2000 or a Supra and add an LS1 in there? People say Rotaries aren't reliable are kinda re-tarted. Look at the 24 hour Le Man competition. It ran for 24 hours, few stops. You just need to learn how to get around a few things in a rotary to keep it running great.

[Rotaryisgarbage]

@Subsw00fers

You should just shut up. The rotary is junk. It probably ruined and he saved the car by adding a real engine. You are a real moron to compare a non-production race engine that had millions invested in it to the production failure 13Bs.

Another rotard idiot that doesn't know anything.

[miamipacheco]

@Rotaryisgarbage  your mother loves rotarys

[Rotaryisgarbage]

@miamipacheco She might until she had her rotary powered car in the shop all the time, which they usually are, then she would NOT like them.

[zcarporn]

@Rotaryisgarbage - lol that Subsw00fers kid is a moron. I agree with you. lol 2 referencing a fully machined race motor to a convo on stock motors. ---- ON A SIDE NOTE: Rotory's are ok for what they are. But what makes then bad is the fact they are temperamental, not very reliable, and drink as much oil as it does gas. Meaning emissions and efficiency is brutal. ----

[devildriverfff]

ur my hero hahah

[Rotaryisgarbage]

Very nice!

No junk rotary in this Rx7

[vicioustrees]

pos why to bastardize an rx7

[Disbro87]

oh and how did your a/c go? any problems with that? i thought about it and was wondering if you just drop the ls6 in and the a/c components and it wont give you a problem in the factory rx7 vents and everything

[Disbro87]

did you install this all by yourself or did you have a shop do it? i see you have the hinson supercar kit correct?? how was the install on it? i have been looking at this for sometime now and been going back and forth on ls6 and the hinson kit or a 20b rotor. i wanna get a piston motor in there for better reliability just want your input on this kit.

[cuomz730]

hahaha its like adding TNT to a fire

[rotarycorvette1]

it does sound like a rotary iddle only 3 times quieter i dont like the v8 swaps for myself i prefer a streetport or bridgy and huge turbo for the brap brap brap brap brap....lol its way better than this.

[MethanolHead94]

engine sounds nice, but does not suit the car

[Decapitator08]

wow it fits in there like it belongs in there

[GodschildJCE]

@Decapitator08 I know mazda should have just sold the chassies ready for dumping an LS motor in there haha

[fadedfd]

Excellent conversion. Can't wait for mines to be finished :)

[year1966]

i belive in keeping the rotary in an rx7 but the sound of a v8 .....damn its nice

[Fotenks]

Awesome job on the RX7!! Although I do find that idle to be pleasant haha. I'm in the process of swapping an LS1 into my FC3s rx7

[daygon128]

TRASH

[thacrunkmasta69]

What kind of power is that making?

[PingPong700]

woahhh the thing is loud as fuck!! but awesome

[PuppetSinXD]

how much did that cost excluding the engine. I know the engine is like 5.4k USD from GM website cheapest iv seen on the net

[xdaedisevolx]

did the guys in birmingham al do the motor swap for you? a buddy of mine has a 96 efini with an ls2. he had the same sticker under the hood.

[randyrhoads6]

thunder racing huh, what are the specs on the cam?

[JustinStrife]

English must not be your first language. For that, I'll forgive your post which nobody can understand.

I don't know who decided, that revving to 12,500 was ideal. There's also a power under the curve to factor in. What good is 12,000 rpm redlimits, if you only make power in the last 2-3k?

I'd rather only be able to rev to 7k, and make lots of power from 2500 rpms all the way up to 7k rpms, and for it to be smooth.

[abominableaussieman]

its just massive fun that all lol.

[akademiks604bc]

k well the v8 is so heavy and the ttrans ull need to use well make the car way so dam much 20 b with no turbo or any power adders will stomp it easy half the wieght

[Blazn710]

hey look another uninformed person. The LSx motors are lighter and have better weight distribution then the rotary. dumbass

[Rosatii]

Lighter than a 20B?

I think ur "blazn" too much buddy

People swap out the rotary's not because the LS's are superior, but because they are MORE RELIABLE and easily modded.

I have to say that if you are a true FD enthusiast, you would never do this and you would suck up the back and wallet breaking work to keep the legacy going.

They dont call it the "dark side" for a reason

[kawana87]

the weight of the LS1 motor in a rx7 has shows to improve the front:rear weight distribution. Yes it weighs more, but the car will handle better and have more power... and be more reliable.

[formulafun00]

fully accessorized they are within a 10lb difference. A more reliable, easilly modded motor in my mind would mean it is superior..what do you consider superior? And saying somebody swaps out a motor not because it is superior? It is superior in the person who wants the motor swappeds mind. Otherwise why would they do it? common sense would lead me to believe the person assumed the ls1 was more fit for their style. thus making it superior to what it had prior...

[milkthecow2200]

this

[abominableaussieman]

actually thats not completely true. as the other guy said, lsx motors or as light if not lighter than a rotary.

[RobbyBuchin]

Maybe you're all correct? The shortblock (flywheel, wpump, thermostat, pulleys and block) in the Mazda weighs a measly 70kgs, significantly lighter than the V8, but if you do an LS1 swap into a FD3S you're taking out a lot more than 70kgs. The turbos are very heavy, and after the entire conversion the gains are around 10-30kgs. Nothing a diet can't fix. I'm a huge fan of Japanese engineering, but I like the look of the FD and I like cheap, reliable performance. This swap is purely academic.

[shizzzleboo]

wow the engine in that car made me laugh uncontrollably for a sec. sounds amazing

[akademiks604bc]

u stop pullin fast at 12.500 but no v8 will do that unlesss it was a full out drag car maybe and that would be maybe 10,000 max

[akademiks604bc]

Mazda Rx-7 series 5 with 20b on dyno pt.1 serch that 14,000 on rev limiter

[akademiks604bc]

search this (700HP RX7 Dyno)

[WRXDEX]

I want it!

[b00b00]

Very nice swap. I was thinking of building one of these, but not sure how long the down time would be.

I dont have another car.

I wanna sell my 350z, and get me a high mileage rx-7, and go from there.

[yagam1]

aw man u destroyed the FD . tarnishing the reputation of an FD wif ur stinking v8 . sheesh

[50Cal586]

I love peoples comments on here...those two engines are in two completely different leagues...people just cant see beyond that. 6.0 vs a 1.3...no shit is the ls6 gonna kill it, but the rotary holds its own really fuckin good against a 6.0liter!!!

[a43468camaro]

sweet

[a43468camaro]

sweet toy

[buklah3]

man these muscle engine just make the rx7 look bad man

just buy a muscle car if u like muscle engine

[LS6RX7]

For the record the car ran a 10.7 with a cam, headers, and on these drag radials. It has working a/c and is COMPLETLY streetable.

[blackspecv]

who gives a shlt about power.. the rx7 twin turbo 13b not the 20b.. the 13b twin turbo can make 600 hp and run 9 seconds street tires go show me a corvette 600 hp and runs 9s in the quarter with street tires. not possible the z06 is 505 hp and it runs 11.5 so shutup i hate people who dis on cars who probably dont even drive on here go ride your mongoose fag boy

[route66boy]

i understand but an LSx is aluminum intake to oil pan.high revving high horse high torque its everything you need.i can see traction being a HUGE problem.i have heard those rotaries spin pretty high but why need 10000rpm when you have 8000 and 900horse?

[route66boy]

yeah your fuckin dumb as hell,there is no way that that little ricer motor will make more power then that LS6(which blows compared to an LSx) people are pulling 900hp from NA LS2's(same config. as LS6) and thats nothing compared to an LSx which is rated OUT OF THE BOX to 2500 before it takes a shit.you can have one stroked to 454ci and YES thats a small block with big block cubic inches so there is no way that little microwave motor will ever stand up to the cojones that AMERICAN MUSCLE HAS

[ryanacehigh]

yer your right in the context of going in a straight line.. but if your circuit racing, a rotary engine is alot lighter and gives the car a better balance than a ls engine.. but in a straight line it will loose yer..

[route66boy]

thank you for giving that import some balls now it doesnt sound like a microwave on high anymore

[akademiks604bc]

funny cause by sayin that i can c uve never heard a 20b rotary its used in the mazda indi and formula 1 cars puts out 450 hp stock without mods and before the turbo its a fullout racing engine except they take off the throdle stop and rev limiter in race car build ups

[akademiks604bc]

plus a 20b would eat up an ls6 if both had no power add ons and with a twin turbo the ls6 would get smoked still the 20b is = to a v 10 street ported so i think ur miss informed if u think a ls6 is faster

[simplybebop]

what a rotary fanboy, your just mad cause you cant keep the seals in a engine for longer than 30,000 miles. To bad I can buy a 400hp v8 for 1,000 but you have to spend multiple thousands on a 20b that you have to rebuild before you put it in a car.

[JustinStrife]

450 N/A hp from a 20b. Whoop dee doo. There are LS1's with over 500rwhp N/A. LS2's with over 550-600rwhp. The power potential of a v8 is higher(How many rotaries can make over 2000 hp?).

The rotary is amazing for what it can do, but reliable it is not. Not to mention the 20b screwing up the handling on an Rx-7, when the big bad V8 doesn't...

[akademiks604bc]

k well ur a noob in a stop s5 trubo 13 b block u can go 700 rwhp with our a turbo and if u go 3 rotar 20 b then u can go 1000 before a trubo easy with a turbo u can take off rev limiter n go 15,000 on ur tack so lets c a v8 do that

[JustinStrife]

Who gives a crap about 15,000 rpms? So much wasted RPM's underneath that.

As I said before, how many rotaries are making over 2000 horsepower? It's not about your max revs, or your horsepower/liter, those are paper arguments. They mean nothing.

Lets see a turbo 13b last over 120k miles, and get you 30mpg, while requiring almost no maintenance besides oil changes. You won't find them.

[johntran]

does an ls1 really get near 30 mpg? i like the idea of an ls1 swap

[JustinStrife]

Yes on the freeway driving 75-85mph. The 6th gear is really tall, so at 80mph you're only taching 1700rpms with the standard 3.42 rear end. With the 4.10's you should be around 2200rpms at the same speed.

My supercharged C5 gave me 29.3mpg driving up to Los Angeles at 85mph with 2 S14's(one with SR20 swap).

It's the around town stuff where the V8 gets thirsty(then again so does the 13b)

[johntran]

not bad. so around town, how bad is the mpg?

[JustinStrife]

My 4spd automatic with 2.73 gears gave me 17-20 around town, and 24-26 on the freeway. The 6spd gives me 12-16 around town, and 26-30 on the freeway.

You'll see better with naturally aspirated engines, I'm running 60lb injectors when stock is 28, so I go through a bit more fuel with the supercharger. But it is so worth it!

[johntran]

oh alright. thats not too bad, i thought it would be worse. thanks for all the info

[akademiks604bc]

so dam weak hillbilly move ls6 is a joke 20b rotary is better and much faster

[rorocuz]

more videos please. this thing is sick

[thevinceberry]

i been seeing alot of ppl putting chevy v8 in a rx7.....why?

[ksmin1153]

basically, more power, less work(as in repairs), lighter(if it is a LS engine), and better gas mileage.

[ksmin1153]

my bad, idk why I said ligher. but it is still darn close to 50/50 ratio

[R0JIBLANC0]

the car looks pretty much stock from the outside exept the aftermarket rims, thats cool,

[adambenno]

left hand drive boo

[Authentix143]

12,000 + cost of the shell

[celisto001]

need 4 speed is stupid

[jphillips04]

why would u put that kuk in a rx7 :S

[XxNeed4SpdxX]

Because it makes more power than most rotary's, for a lot less money, but with a lot more reliability? Just taking a guess here.

[jphillips04]

yer well if u know how to look after a rotory then it will b reliable and ur only gettin the power coz ur puttin that crappy ls6 in a light car by doin this it will b fast but hav no handling coz it will b front heavy

[XxNeed4SpdxX]

No it won't, most people who have done the swap have come out with a better weight distribution. As far as the power, an LS6 can easily make over 400rwhp with just a cam and some bolt ons. You'd need thousands of dollars to do the same with a rotary.

[styles707]

Fuck yea! The car it comes in has 405HP out the door, and this car is cammed so can you say "POWER"

The ls6 will make the rotary its bitch!

[Exulia]

your gaining about 30 pounds by doing an lsX swap...

[Sephirius]

Which as the original car has 47-53 weight distribution, you've actually improved the balance.

[KreepinOutThaKut]

i keep hearin' that line Over an Over an Over an Over again ..... like the sound of a J port rotary that kicks the bucket at 30,000 miles. IT DOES NOT ADD SIGNIFICANT WEIGHT. PERIOD. 30lbs......thats it....keeps 50/50 with half tank of gas.....LS engines are all aluminum

[rompn4x]

All the idiots that always say "American engine is so much heavier" make me laugh. 13b's were a good idea but why not improve the car with an ls motor superior in all aspects...

[DirtridinElCamino]

who cares about handeling ya i would take turns slower but by the time u get the the turn ill be at the next one! score one for america

[jedsmart]

Actually the weight difference with aluminum head V8 is is very small, and they still retain close to a 50/50 atio.

[rotara666]

damn nice 7 can you post some racing vids plz

[carlover2000]

How much did the whole swap cost you?

[akademiks604bc]

nah rotary is much better and i run no seals noob metal to metal