@rockoutmichigan The Christian God is very different and true. He loved man so much to the point He save them by sending Jesus Christ to die on the cross for the forgiveness of sins.
@artemis198975 To me it's not so much that God doesn't exist, as is the logic pointing to the unlikelyhood that any religon has the idea of God right. I live a good life, and I'm a just person, and if I'm wrong about the unlikely hood(it would be like hitting the lottery really if you think about it). If you want me to point out the plaguerism in Christianity, I will, but I would rather this be less of an argument and more of an open communication. I do not reject your God, I find Him unlikely
@artemis198975 The idea of being born into sin seems like a prejudice to me. Are other animals held in that regard in your beliefs? Like for instance ants, they have a vast intelligence if you study them, they can build structures stronger in scale to anything we can, they have a collective intelligence. Are they born into sin? Or is it only us humans who get the burden of God given guilt. Are the other animals not Gods creations too in your belief system? Do all dogs really go to heaven?
@rockoutmichigan Sin came into the world when Adam and Eve disobeyed God.That Sin caused the world to become sinful.
After looking through the bible,I saw no direct answer that animals have salvation.They do have souls but the human soul is eternal because man was made in God's image.
There are Christians that believe animals go to heaven and others that don't. Personally I believe that anything is possible with God. So it is possible for animals to go to heaven
1: Titanic sank because it was poorly captained, a 1 inch thick hull was relativley thin for a vessel of that size BTW.
2: If you're talking about JFK, then you're just a sick fucker.
3: DO YOU REALLY THINK (yes! "think") that peoples pets/kids heal because they prayed, and not because they went to a place where people who have qualifications from a scientifically proven back
ground like, idunnno, school - college etc, have saved thier lives. IDIOT.
@64MojoMan 1 and 2 (because they're both the same point) There are people who say that they're never going to win the lottery then they win the lottery, does this prove god made them win the lottery?
3. peoples children/pets are gonna die, they pray and they die. does this disprove god? peoples children/pets are gonna die, they don't pray and they live. does this disprove god? prayer is demonstrably as effective as not praying
@fabiolopes92 God doesn't exist, do you see any other animals on this earth bowing down and praying to the skies? No, that's because we'd call them crazy if they did. Why is it any different for humans? Ever heard of evolution? Or maybe the Big Bang Theory? Christians just move the goal posts every time someone comes up with new evidence. Remember the old days when people said god lived in the skies? Basically, there's no chance what so ever that there is a "god". Get some common sense.
@fabiolopes92 No, it's the fire breathing dragon that is the one true god, recant your faith in your false god Yahweh or burn in the pit of the fire dragon on the day of scaley judgement!
@honeyblossom17 well, how else was everything made and dont say evolution because that is stupid if you think about it. But im sorry if i offended you or anything.
there is no logical reason for either side if he does or doesn't you can bring on your bio-genesis views on which we said that there must be intelligent matter to make intelligent matter when you counter how does God exist who created him comparing him to a human who is to say there is no God we may just be here doing nothing following no niche in life but anyone on you-tube give me a good reason why he exists or doesn't exist
@theunstopabletomato- Please cut the crap, have you ever even thought of just how many people have been saying over the decades and nothing has ever happend!? And besides that, just where is your proof for this other than a 2000 year old book?
@honeyblossom17 Oh yeah. It also annoys me when people say The Bible. There are so many different the bibles no one stands as THE bible, as that implies one. If it was just translation differences sure, but its cannon differences! They can't all be 'the word of god' lol.
I don't understand why either side needs to argue about whether or not god exists. We will all find out for ourselves when we die. Religion is a very personal thing, and I don't believe that it should ever be brought up in civilized conversation. Peoples' beliefs are way too deep to change by arguing about them.
one thing i don't understand, why most people that doesn't believe in God, believe in Devil? If God doesn't exist, the Devil automatically wouldn't exist !
How is this for a theory. If a thing takes up no space, emits no energy, and is invisible there is no proof of existence. The only place that no existence can exist is in the mind as a concept or belief. That puts it in the realm of imagination and therefore it is imaginary. The religious believe in a imaginary deity that exist only in their imagination. Does this make any sense to anyone else?
@royme55 This is circular reasoning: Existence is defined by what is observable by humans - humans can only observe what exists. You said non-existence can only exist (HAHAHA) in the mind. I didn't know non existence could exist. By your own philosophical arguments the existence of a concept in the mind could prove existence because it exists in the mind. I can counter your silly argument with equally silly circular arguments. Does this make sense to anyone else?
@yumpin If you would stop and think for just a minute you would see how stupid your response is. You can imagine something, such a a god or gods but for it to be real, it has to be provable in the real world. If there is no way to prove or disprove your god then it remains as a concept in your mind. There is no "circular" anything to this it is either real and provable or imaginary. If that isn't simple enough for you then you lack critical think abilities.
@royme55 again in this response you define the terms of existence. All things in existence do not necessarily take up space, emit energy etc. Some examples would be gravity or any force, and many laws of science. These things have been discovered because of their effects not because of observable properties=why people can believe in God. Your argument is circular because it relies on it's proposition (your definition of existence). Intelligent athiests would be embarrased to see your logic
@yumpin The gravity argument is not valid because gravity is provable just drop something heavier than air and it falls. Okay, buy your thinking you should be able to prove there is a God or gods but their effect. So go ahead and describe an effect that proves there is a god. It must pass your own criteria of an observable physical effect. This effect must be more than and imagined one and extent beyond mere belief to reality. I look forward to your response.
@yumpin I will reply to your comment about intelligent atheist and my logic. I scored 162 on my last IQ test and I at least have logic. I do not believe in an imaginary man created deity that lives in the sky. His other attributes are (if you believe the Buy Bull) the greatest mass murderer in history (the flood). He advocate such things as genocide, slavery and the subjugation of women. I submit to you that is a lack of logic for a modern world.
@royme55 regardless of your claimed IQ you still use circular reasoning. There is no way to disprove the existence of God. Even Richard Dawkins himself says he can't be 100% (he is 99% lol) percent sure there is no God because he knows you cannot disprove (or prove) his existence. You have faith that there was an uncaused effect called the big bang, and I have faith that an uncaused Creator made the universe. Both views are beyond empirical science and require faith.
@yumpin By the strict terms of 'prove' that's true, that one cannot prove a negative. This god doesn't exist, so there's no evidence one way or the other.
How could your creator be uncaused? At any rate, no one has faith in the 'big bang' because there's evidence for it. That's a logical conclusion, not a belief. And no, the big bang is not beyond science, or we'd have no concept of it.
@yumpin It is, however possible to disprove the christian god logically. Since it's only logic, it's not empiracle proof and not the level of which you speak, but it's a form of disproving it at any rate.
For example, no being could be both omnipotent and omniscient. They are mutually exclusive terms, but the christian god is said to be. Since it's impossible, said god cannot exist.
@humanistheart You cannot disprove something logically that you cannot disprove through empirical science. You say no being could be all knowing and all powerful. These terms are not exclusive, they go hand in hand. This is not logically impossible by any means other than in your own mind. You can't define these terms by anything because you can't test or demonstrate them (empirical science). Your logic is based on philosophical assumptions, and not proof, hence the term opinion.
@yumpin Stricktly speaking no, you are correct in that. Because logic can only be as advanced as our own understanding. But for all intensive purposes, one can discredit gods or faith systems.
Yes, one can say those are logically mutually exclusive. Your right in that that's not and end all, as you said, there is no empirical bases for it, but is more of an intellectual and ethical exercise.
@yumpin you can't disprove the existence of a un-defined deity but you can disprove a certain deity by looking at the "books" they gave man. Seeing what they say and use science to disprove the claims. As we have done with every Popular Deity ever imagined by man. What we have exhaustively done with Yahweh and Allah! It's funny the first few paragraphs in the bible talk about day and night being created. Yet the sun hasn't even been created yet. And it calls the Moon a Great Light. Too funny!
@ThorTheOdinSon If there is a God who created everything, would it then defy logic for Him to have created light waves from earth all the way to where the stars were going to be, so we wouldn't have to wait billions of years for the light from the stars? The verse you refer to defines day as literally light, Could a God who created everything not create a continuous directional light source to have day and night? You have disproved nothing, you gave an opinion based on your logic.
@ThorTheOdinSon In short, you cannot disprove God by reading a book that is open to interpretation (not even in its original language) and finding 'logical flaws' which are just your interpretations on how things have to be because of your prior convictions. As I have stated before you cannot disprove God through empirical science, nor can you prove any origins theory, or any historical book. try reading evolution handbook by vance ferrell for evidence for God
@yumpin and you have priests and pastor's running around telling their flock of sheep that the theory's science provides us, match perfectly with genesis. And you know those sheep aren't going home to make sure that's the case. Otherwise they wouldn't believe in the first place. Unless of course they also have not read the bible. Which in my years of debating sadly a majority of "Christians" do not know there religion as well as the atheists i talk to.
The ratio of people who honestly did not believe they were healed is like 1 out of 15. This can be for various reasons and even though basically everyone gets healed and is like totally surprised and without doubt, it is still rare for them to accept Jesus because of there own ideas, sinful ways, and doubts about how they get healed. The reason i do this is for them to accept Jesus and be saved and sadly they are often to deceived to believe.
Do you know wind exists? Well you can't see it. But of course, you can feel it and see its work.
Its the same for God! You can't see Him yet if you, as the bible says, seek then you will find. When i did seek, i found. He has only been real and proven Himself to me. I can't see Him but i can feel Him and see His works and as he works.
@EradicateEndings Actually, its more like God knocks on your door at your house(mind,spirit). You may even start to see Him move before you receive Him in such ways as seeing Him move in church or atmospheres of God's presence, witnessing miracles, or even having a miracle happen to you.
Example: Sometimes i pray for people who are sick or have pains and different physical problems. Basically, even though i will often do it in a place where they are not seeking God(mainly public school)......
@MrOnfireforGod God is not real. Man created God. He allow cults like the Jws the exist. He allowed the Black Race to suffer. MORE than Jews. Because now you can just say, that we don't even own a country. Why would he would want a new person being born against him ? The Adam and Eve doesn't make any sense. Didn't Satan LIE To Eve. Because of this why does Satan live longer than we do ? Plants live long than us. Because Man created stories.
@EradicateEndings What question? Restate it. Its sounds to me like your the one brainwashed. Jews have suffered for thousands of years and they(talking about the Israelis) have been nearly wiped out several times. In the last chapter of Daniel it talked about the days in which the Roman army would be going to war with the Israelis. the days are completely accurate according to history. It even says if these days weren't shortened then no one would survive. There was a ceasefire.
@MrOnfireforGod Iol I forgot about you. Why does Satan live longer than us, if Satan was the one who lied to Eve in the first place? Blacks suffered more than Jews, How long wear Jews slaves ? For thousands of years, were Jews will educated? Did they looked ugly as hell ? with diseases ? Did they live in shit holes ? Name a black person in Africa that had a relationship with God without the accompany of other races. during those times ?
@EradicateEndings This isn't an argument of who suffered more. Besides, black is a color, while Jew is a religion. Over history a lot of different people suffered for various reasons and in various ways. Some suffered more then others. You saying "The bible is fake" is a general statement made with opinion. I don't know anyone who has ever said its stories came from different cultures. It appears to me that everyone is saying it came from the Israelis/Hebrews/Jew.
@MrOnfireforGod lol or yes it is. God only came up to the Jews while everyone else was killing themselves. The bible is fake because it was made by "imperfect " humans. That is a mistake, if you are going to allow A "perfect" person die for us. and have our lives at the hands of imperfect people. One right, one wrong ? What is the point ? It sounds like the work of humans not a God. Some of the stories fables came from Romain, Greek, and Indian culture.
@EradicateEndings Indian? Where not American Indian. Besides that, God chose them before they even came to be. You can't put it in the perspective of the bible and God without doing it completely. God chose them before the world was even created. He told Abraham that he would give birth to great nations. He made it know to Jacob that his offspring would be God's before they were even born. The bible was given through the Spirit to humans. The bible was inspired by God and that's what it says.
@EradicateEndings The work of humans is people saying that there are many gods. An idea of the different aspects of this world being gods or having gods for them. That is what man created. Belief that are of One God that contradicts the God of the bible can be found to have come after the God of the Jews and so are perversions, while Jesus Christ is fulfillment to the OT and the Jews.
@EradicateEndings I already addressed your question of why Satan lives longer than us. If you look at my comments then you will see and understand that he doesn't live longer then us. You saying God doesn't exist if Satan exists is just an opinion based on your own secular understanding. In the bible it says not to lean on your own understanding. I have never understood better then i did when God's Spirit started revealing things to me.
@MrOnfireforGod you over looked my question. Satan lives longer than us. We die, he continues. lol Its commonsense. God doesn't exist if Satan exists because God himself don't make mistakes and he don't make himself to appear unclean and hypercritical. Do you believe what the bible states ? He don't associate with unclean things. Satan is unclean and is the problem that God is going to have to fix.
@EradicateEndings Satan doesn't live longer then us. He doesn't even live in the way that humans lived. He is physically dead because he was never created to be physical but he was always spiritual. He fell and so died spiritually by sinning and so was separated from God. He doesn't have fellowship with God and you should see that he was dead spiritually before humans were even created. Can you still say he lives longer then us? He was dead before we existed.
@EradicateEndings Sorry i am putting so many comments but it seems necessary to reply. Satan was called before God at times such as in Job. He has to come before God when called for obvious reasons. God does not associate with the devil but he does do such things as are outlined in Job. Gods Spirit is not with the devil nor is it with any sinners. There is something else. The devil, because he started this perversion(sin), has the right to those who sin.
@EradicateEndings One more point. Everyone suffers about the same when they die, if they are not true Christians anyway and in the case of History if they were not true Jews and servants of God. I'm talking about Hell of course. While these others i named, go to have eternal peace with God.
@MrOnfireforGod the religion thing is fake. its for people who can't face the fact that they are going to die and not come back. Lol you know what happens after death, but you don't know what happened before birth. This sounds like God with no beginning or end. The bible is fake because it can't answer the real world's question. Why do you cry when somebody dies ? Wouldn't you know that there is going to be resurrection ? There are coming back why cry ? Because you don't believe. lol
@EradicateEndings Sins is separation from God and invitation to the devil and demonic spirits. I first realized that God is real when i was just a little kid. It had nothing to do with where i felt i was going to go when i died. I don't even think i had thought about it.
@EradicateEndings Here is a little testimony: When i was young i hated my life, hated going to church, and didn't believe in God and even hated the thought of Him. One day at Sunday School i felt miserable and decided to ask Him if He is there to be real to me. I can't remember exactly what i said but it had something to do with that. I was kinda mellow at that moment but then came this awesome peace that surpasses all understanding and this overwhelming presence. I didn't expect it.
@EradicateEndings Last comment. My testimony reflects on what the bible says. "If you will seek then you will find." Of course you have to really mean it and be open to God. I didn't stay consistent in my relationship with God. After all, i was young, just a kid. So hey, instead of this discussion between me and you why don't you just open yourself to the possibility and seek in the same way i did. Also ask Him to forgive you of your sins in Jesus s name. PLEASE READ COMMENTS FROM BOTTOM UP.
@EradicateEndings Cont: Both the days till the end of the last battle between them and the days after that when the ceasefire happened are in the last chapter of Daniel. Look it up. Not just in the bible but also according to history. Compare the time lines. Also, it doesn't appear that anyone knows the color of the Israelis at that time. It doesn't appear to be the same of today. It was like dark or tan. Really, it doesn't matter though. Satan isn't physical. He is spiritual( a fallen angel)
@EradicateEndings Cont again: We all have spirits and so what does this mean? Context clues. We all live forever! Whether in pain and misery or peace and the life of God, well, that depends if you have a true relationship with Jesus Christ. Man does create stories. So did a lot of people in churches in our history. Yet, Gods word is sound. Its historically and scientifically accurate. It also isn't contradicted. I have only found it to make sense in my life and others. Don't assume things.
@MrOnfireforGod The bible is fake. All these stories came from different cultures. There is no such thing as a fly human with winds. God don't exist if Satan exist.
what you are asking is someone to believe in your delusion..you said :maybe I need help"...meds will be a solution to your delusion. Thanks for sharing your reality but so ill supported by mine.
@mysticgatekeeper Thats not entirely true. There are a lot of things in this world that we can't see but they exist......but they CAN be detected and observed.
The same applies about God. If you are willing then you too can experience God. When it comes to God, people refuse to believe unless they can see him but that's the astonishing fact about God. If you are willing to take the first small step, He will reveal himself to you! So what's stopping you?
@mysticgatekeeper So, the experience of God is completely dependent upon individuals choosing to have that experience? That is the same as acknowledging that God is a man-made idea. Your concept of experiencing God is on the same level as a vision brought on by a hallucinogen.
No, the reality here is that your ignorance is what's keeping you from seeing what you have blinded yourself to. Experiencing God is like building a relationship with any friend you have. If you are not willing to put in the time to get to know your friends, they will walk away. You only get what you put into it. If you only call your friends when you need something, they won't have anything to do with you. If you're willing to spend the time and have it develop, then you will discover something
that your mind is not capable of comprehending. You chose to blind yourself to God and you're blaming me for it. If you want to tape your eyes shut, then that is a choice that you made for yourself. Pull the tape off and see what's been in front of you all the time.
@mysticgatekeeper I never blamed you for anything, did I? I explained a flaw in your reasoning and you responded with a jumble of analogies that when disassembled contain exactly this: "I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG!" You think I'm ignorant and blinded, when in truth I am more knowledgeable and open-minded then you will ever be. I am not opposed to the idea of there being a god, nor am I dependent on it one way or the other. It is for that reason that I am able to see the world for what it is.
You may not have openly blamed me but your stance is clear. There is no God and I'm ignorant etc. I'm glad I'm not open minded as you claim. In fact, believing in God is a very narrow minded approach which I take as a compliment. You've been too busy following what others have been telling you rather than looking for yourself. By claiming you are far more knowledgeable only supports the fact that you also vain and ignorant. You see what you want to see and ignore the rest.
I've never been able to understand people such as yourself and your resentment towards God. What has God done to you to make you so resentful? What exactly is it that you hate about God? How were you harmed by him?
If you have the right to attack God then don't I have the right to defend? Are you prepared to go to your grave with your beliefs considering you have no proof which supports your stance? You are either 100% right or 100% wrong. There is no second chance in this race.
@mysticgatekeeper I just said I have no "resentment" towards god, nor the idea of there being one. To spell it out for you again, I am not dependent upon it one way or the other. I am not attacking god, because I don't believe there is one. I am arguing with you.
And I am not making any claims here, therefore I have no burden of evidence. You make the claim that god exists, and must back it up with evidence, not tell me something is there and ask me to prove it isn't.
You in fact are making a very profound claim. You have made it clear that you don't believe in God. There are only two options for every human. You believe or reject. There is no middle ground. Just because you have no evidence proves nothing. The evidence exists and it's up to you to take the initiative to locate it. Once you find it, you will have no option but to believe. It's that overwhelming.
You are afraid of what you will find and that means you are accountable to somebody greater than yourself. If God is the creator then you are the created. God sets the rules and you have no option but to either abide or rebel. You hate the idea of having somebody tell you there is a line that cannot be crossed or there will be consequences. You are happy living your life by your rules and you don't want anybody telling you that you are doing something wrong.
Denying God changes nothing. He still exists regardless of your beliefs. You may as well deny that gravity exists while you're at it. As for proving God, that's not something I will do. God has already provided the evidence which you have chosen to ignore. Consider this question very carefully. If you did have the evidence you want in your hands. What are you prepared to do with it?
If you had the evidence, the fact is that you are terrified with what it will mean to your existence.
@mysticgatekeeper You're not going to prove that YOUR GOD even exists!!! Wow, then why don't you go ahead and believe in even the most ludicrous ideas such as the existence of pixies and unicorns?! Why do you believe in something that has unproven and also makes some of the most ridiculous claims that any intelligent person would laugh off as complete insanity?
Regardless of what I say or provide, you won't accept it to begin with. So what do you want me to offer here? You say there is no God. Ok, I say that skepticism/atheism has never given hope to the hopeless. It has never restored a broken life. It has never cured sickness. It has never made anybody smile when surrounded by darkness. It has never offered a future for anything. This is your life bubba, how great things must seem to you. From my side, I have witnessed sight restored to the blind.
I have seen the deaf receive hearing. I have seen those who were given a death sentence from doctors cured from cancer. I have seen the lame stand up from the wheelchair and walk again. I have seen those with one leg shorter than the other have it grow grow in length instantly as I stood and watched. I have the proof of God which says "call on me and I WILL answer you". I have never seen anybody forsaken who trusts in God. I have the proof you refuse to accept. You have no answers to anything.
You will never accept any evidence because you are terrified of what that will mean to somebody like yourself. For every thought, there is a thinker. For every design there is a designer. For every plan there is a planner. You have convinced yourself that if you don't believe in God, then you are not accountable. Wrong bub. You are accountable regardless of what you believe. What you believe has no bearing on reality. Ever.
@mysticgatekeeper Sir, you're just dodging my question. Just give me A SINGLE EXAMPLE OF YOUR GOD'S EXISTENCE! Surely that can't be too hard for you considering you are clearly a very religious person.
You're asking the wrong question. I don't need proof. You do. You should be asking "how can I have proof of God". The answer is clear. First. YOU are required to take initiative if you want God to answer. Second, the scripture is clear "call on me and I WILL answer". God makes it clear that he has every intention to prove himself to you but you have to take the first step. What are you prepared to do. How badly do you want your proof and what will you do with it once you get it?
@mysticgatekeeper Okay, now we're done. You are so ridiculously deluded that you cannot understand how reasoning and evidence work together for a person claiming something to persuade others. You are claiming that a so called "God" exists, therefore you must give me extraordinary evidence on behalf of this entity to prove it.
@mysticgatekeeper I'll make a scenario just so you can get this through your extremely thick, brainwashed mind.
I wonder if you believe that I can fly. Yes, it is true that I can fly and I have flown to Mars.
Now, what would say if I told you that YOU have to disprove that I can fly to Mars. You would say that is completely wrong and my logic was completely backwards. This is exactly the same with your mumbo-jumbo logic. Your reasoning is no greater that fools like Ray Comfort and children.
The only thing you have proven here is that you don't know what you want. If you are expecting me to spoon feed you, think again. You want proof but you refuse to do what's necessary. The proof is at your fingertips and you prefer to play games. We're not talking about flying here. We're talking about proving that God exists and you are changing directions. The fact is that you don't want proof because it terrifies you. You prefer to convince yourself that it's not possible so you can live your
@mysticgatekeeper Alright, we are obviously done. You clearly cannot answer one simple question to justify your belief. Have a good life wallowing in ignorance and complete idiocy.
Try reading what I wrote to you below and you'll find your answers. If you could only admit that you won't try then I would actually have respect for your honesty. Instead, you have decided to turn the tables and run. Fine, I do intend to have a good life. You on the other hand are the one who has refused to comment and answer some very simple questions. I take your insults as compliments and thank you for your time.
@mysticgatekeeper Wow, oh wow. Your ignorance and complete idiocy knows no bounds. I have asked you a simple question. And all you do is do circles around it with extremely long comments that have no relevance to the question. I will give you a final chance. JUSTIFY THAT YOUR GOD EXISTS.
I can already see how your going to respond. Your just going to spout off some pathetic scripture or give meaningless appeals to emotions like fear.
life the way you want. Ok, feel free to keep living your way. I personally don't care what you do. You wanted to know if God is real and I gave you the answer and you reject it. Why? What is it about God that terrifies you? What are you afraid you're going to find? You have no choice but to answer that question to yourself. It what you don't see in life that matters most. This is all about faith and faith has no limitations. I'll prove to you that even you rely on faith in life.
You would NEVER get into a plane unless you knew somebody certified it safe. You would never take any medication unless you knew it will help you. You would never sit in a car unless you knew the driver could drive. Faith is a part of your life regardless of what you believe. Call me anything you want if it makes you feel superior. Remember, it's what you can't see that will always affect you the most. Ignorance is never an excuse for anything. Why do you rely on it?
@CRISNCHIPS12398 'Why don't you go ahead and believe in even the most ludicrous ideas such as the existence of pixies and unicorns?' Who are you to say pixies and unicorns aren't out there some where? Especially unicorns? We are finding crazier forms of life than that right here on Earth and youtube.
I praise All in One because I'm quite certain the spaghetti entity will come to consume those who do not give thanks for pasta. Peace be with your noodles. May you have much cheese with your whine.
With all the evidence Allah has given man, only those who will not believe will think otherwise, and woe to the unbeliever, tell them of a day when man will wish he were one with the earth.
I won't be rude and I don't mean to offend you. I appreciate your attempt to assert ideas as well. Philosophically, if there wasn't an All-Mighty Creator/Ruler of the universe then you couldn't account for the very truth of "evidence" to begin with. Nothing would make sense. There would be no preconditions for intelligibility.
@JohnO318 Nothing make sense in the first place. It is humans that create these preconditions for intelligibility. Reality is more complex than our minds can cope with, so we break it down and compartmentalize it. The very notion of an all-powerful creator is testament to this, it is a coping mechanism, the largest of most people's compartments. Do not attempt to out philosophize someone who has been up all night.
it pisses me off how you heartless dumb ass doesnt belive in god and if we have feelings and cry and have faith in luck that comes from a higher power we would not think and have a deep feelin g in our heart thats a soul but head maybe his names not god but theres a good strong power up there but I dont give a shit if you believe when you die and go to hell you will cry and regret what you just said I feel sorry for you .
@thetrazor well i u stop shoving twinkies down ur throat get alife old hag and ur an athiast retarded punk that probly is a 40yr old non married man so shut up
how did the universe start then and if you can tell me that then how did your answer start... there might be a god might not all i no is even if there is no god i dont think you wasted ur life at church if you think so then well then fuck off. Btw didnt mean to go gods servant on ur as im not religous at all
Hi! I've often noticed that atheists crave for certainty. They need to know, for sure, that there's no God. I guess a more secure (mature?) aptitude would be to say: “I can't prove there's a God, I can't prove there's no God, but whether there's a God or not, I'll do what I think is right, regardless of the consequences. Believers in God should also say: “I'll do what I think is right, whether there's a God or not.” To me, this is a more mature approach to the dilemma of God's existence. Peace.
@RabinoBoricuaVirtual Just because people want to debate the existence of God doesn`t mean they need to know if god exists before they can make decisions or that they need to know if God exists to know what is right. Surely you realize that most atheists believe that morality exists but did not come from a God? Atheists DO do what they think is right whether or not there is a God. To suggest that we are in some kind of moral waiting room until a decision about God is reached is silly.
I respect your position.It would be great if thinks were the way you describe them. Unfortunately, they aren't.The fact is that too many Americans are atheists not as a result of a personal search for "truth" (actually, truth often doesn't really matter), but rather as a response to an American religious establishment whose depiction of God is little more than a caricature.I'm Jewish and, while living in the USA, I often visited church services; eventually, I stop believing in their God.
@RabinoBoricuaVirtual The problem is that to many ppl use gods to justify what they do, even they bring death, starvation and terrors to men women and children... And ppl follow them cuz they think it is that gods will...
I Completely agree with you. No perspective of God (whether it be religious or secular) that portraits the source of all being as promoting hatred, strife and evil behaviour toward our fellow human beings can be a true conception of that Supreme Authority; the One which contains the perfect paradigms of all manifested reality. Maybe evil can be ascribed to a super advanced, "near god", alien being; but certainly never to the Supreme Authority that gave birth to our Universe. Peace!
And about Israel... hard to explain how a country about the size of New Jersey is able to defend and keep out countries and terrorist from countries many times their size ... and look how often the jews are persecuted through out history and how much they are HATED today...if the devil influences the earth doesnt it make sense he would go after Gods chosen people more than anyone
@mhwelcholemissedu First of all, Israel failed to defend themselves. They lost to the Assyrians, they lost to the Babylonians, they lost to the Romans. And today they're the one's committing genocide against the Palestinians with the help from one of the most powerful countries in the world, the USA.
2nd of all, minority groups that refuse to assimilate into their hosts cultures always cause problems, and the jewish people were no exception. Look into it.
This guy who wrote the book kinda contradicted himself when he said to "reject the hypothesis" and then says stay "open to future physical data" ... well to stay well if you just reject the idea then its rjected but to stay open minded you cant completely reject an idea
@77Merav The history of the jewish people is all a fake. nothing historically prooven. Just bullshit.how can a god choose one people among the creatures he was supposed to have created??? To think jews are THE people is the same thing as the nazi's theory according which they were THE best humans on Earth !!
Bullshit. God is just a story made by the strong to control the weak. fuck him !
@77Merav "wow and sorry to tell you but The jews are Not Nazis and do NOT have a nazi's theory!"
Perhaps not. But in the fictional bible the hebrew and israelite people to commit numerous mass genocides and infanticides. And the state of israel in modern day is committing a genocide even today against he Palestinians. Sounds nazi-ish to me.
@77Merav I know of no one named Lanin who committed mass genocide. As for Mao, he started a CULT of personality. That's a religious thing, not an atheist thing.
"The Arabs so called Palestinians supported Hitler(The mufti)- fact!"
First of all, I've never seen evidence to support that, second even if it were true, so what? They did something you don't like so it's okay to commit mass genocide? What kind of logic is that?
"ignorance it's like a disease" And you sound terminal with it.
@77Merav LOL, that's the best you can do? Couldn't defend your genocide claims so now your just making personal attacks. Haha. Why'd you even bother responding? You couldn't possibly have thought that would work, could you?
you are funny. i was raise Pentecostal, sanctified or whatever you know it to be. i was in church all of my young life and into early adulthood. i still believe all that i was taught. do i put it all into practice. no. i should, but i don't. it's not a deliberate thing. i just have tons of excuses. lazy, sex, demonic movies, pride, fear. you name it. God will always be something you and your fellow atheist will find impossible to disprove, and i can't use my proof to prove it to you.
heard it before from other atheists. please be original next time. quoting another athiest is hardly proof that God doesn't exist. it's all one-sided. i don't doubt carl sagan wasn't clever. he's just wrong. lol
@jww312 so your saying you can't disprove the dragon... lol. It's not that difficult to make up something that can't be disproving like i just made you with all your memories and the entire world that you remember. Disprove me...
@iAMsoBEAST1 lmao. dude i don't give a shit what you believe. i just hate humans who want to be gods. as i've been saying, you'll have all the proof you need when you are dead. as young as the human race is people like you believe that EVERYTHING has been discovered. until we die no one can say what is beyond death. so when idiots like you open your ignorant mouths denying what you don't know for certain, you sound like mental patient. i simply operate on the principal of faith. NEXT
@jww312 so your faith is fear driven... Here let me show you with a one question. Are you scared of the unknown of death? Your answer will be no, I'm going to heaven, but really, what got you to believe that. In fact it was that you are scared of what you don't know and instead of accepting it as a unknown you replace it with god as a filler. Your afraid of death, and so is everyone else, but unlike atheists, Christians and other religions decide, " oh let's just say your eternally rewarded."
@iAMsoBEAST1 lol. no i am going to hell in my current state. i'm no saint. like i told the idiot before you. i am probably FAAAR more evil than you could ever imagine being. i just accept what i was taught. as a child and no empty-headed person who believes in nothing at all can never change that at least. now the application is o whole other matter. one day i will find my way back to God. maybe you too. he knows you better than you do.
@jww312 The truth is much more interesting then the made up stories of any cultural beliefs. If you get the chance look up at the night sky. Think of all the solar systems that may harbor life, the multitude of galaxies, and the new discovery of an earth like solar system. From this I hope you will realize how ignorant it is to believe that the Universe is ours and only ours. Sorry 'bout the last rather vulgar comment. Peace
@iAMsoBEAST1 i'm with you 1000% in believing that there is life beyond us. you have me confused with a fanatic who think God was only limited to making humans. we may differ about theism, but we are on par about life elsewhere.
@jww312 I'm still confused, how, even though it goes against the bible, along with many other things, you still are somehow clinging onto the belief of god... Please just answer this, do you actually follow Christianity as you are suppose to, following the bible, or have you dropped most of the mistakes people have found reading through it and created your own miniature religion that works best for you, creating an image that is impossible to disprove...?
@jww312 Everything hasn't been discovered and some things will never be discovered. You and your faith are as little truth as a person saying you'll end up in a magic world of chocolate. Faith is useless except as false hope
@Godisawesome44 Absolutely not! I believe dragons were a real animal, and thus an invisible one could never exist. I know people talk about gods with different attributes, but the God of the Bible, by definition, is invisible. We must keep the attributes of an object with the object itself.
Carl Pagan came up with a stupid argument. It's easy to disprove that a dragon is in a garage. Simply looking around in the garage is adequate because an invisible dragon is not a dragon. If a dragon is not observable in a garage, then it is non-existent.
Views such as these derive directly from a system of thought centered on materialism; within it, everything is defined and delimited with reference to materialism.
To interpret materialism in such a sense is in the final analysis strictly meaningless; it would be a superstitious notion involving the perversion of truth, and to regard it as scientific would, in fact, be *treason* to science.
Your delusions that science has put out the notion of God is purely rhetorical and has nothing to do with logical method, because even thousands of scientific experiments could not possibly suffice to demonstrate that no non-material being or factor exists. Your claim is nothing more than a fanatical illusion based on unproven theories. ...
Allah brought Christianity sooo the last religion is Islam ao follow it
imsocute1992 1 month ago
There is Allah but he's in sky you can't see him!!!!!! This life is a test
imsocute1992 1 month ago
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@JohnnyNorris125 Every religon is a rip off of the Egyptian sun god Horus.
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@rockoutmichigan The Christian God is very different and true. He loved man so much to the point He save them by sending Jesus Christ to die on the cross for the forgiveness of sins.
artemis198975 5 months ago
@artemis198975 no, it really isn't....
rockoutmichigan 5 months ago
@rockoutmichigan Show me proof then. Then I will show you my proof.
artemis198975 5 months ago
@artemis198975 To me it's not so much that God doesn't exist, as is the logic pointing to the unlikelyhood that any religon has the idea of God right. I live a good life, and I'm a just person, and if I'm wrong about the unlikely hood(it would be like hitting the lottery really if you think about it). If you want me to point out the plaguerism in Christianity, I will, but I would rather this be less of an argument and more of an open communication. I do not reject your God, I find Him unlikely
rockoutmichigan 5 months ago
@artemis198975 The idea of being born into sin seems like a prejudice to me. Are other animals held in that regard in your beliefs? Like for instance ants, they have a vast intelligence if you study them, they can build structures stronger in scale to anything we can, they have a collective intelligence. Are they born into sin? Or is it only us humans who get the burden of God given guilt. Are the other animals not Gods creations too in your belief system? Do all dogs really go to heaven?
rockoutmichigan 5 months ago
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artemis198975 4 months ago
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artemis198975 4 months ago
@rockoutmichigan Sin came into the world when Adam and Eve disobeyed God.That Sin caused the world to become sinful.
After looking through the bible,I saw no direct answer that animals have salvation.They do have souls but the human soul is eternal because man was made in God's image.
There are Christians that believe animals go to heaven and others that don't. Personally I believe that anything is possible with God. So it is possible for animals to go to heaven
artemis198975 4 months ago
@artemis198975
You and your idea is disgusting.
d3st88 2 months ago
@JohnnyNorris125 Silly Christan, reality is for adults.
karloney 5 months ago 12
Carl Sagan was such a badass!
andyman626 6 months ago 7
If God Doesnt Exists! tell me this...
People not even god could sink titanic- Sank on its maiden voyage!
(Believe-1/Non-believer-0)
A man said not Even god can stop me from running office-he died before he got out of his limo!
(Believers-2/Non-believers-0)
Peoples children/ or pets are gonna die- they pray and they heal in just DAYS with no chance of SURVIVAL
(Believers-3/Non-believers-0)
Are you Gonna Convert?
Your losing! lol
Comment Non Believers! I BEG YOU!!!
64MojoMan 7 months ago
@64MojoMan I beg you to use better arguments, troll.
Koss42 7 months ago
@64MojoMan troll less lol, you made me laugh though thank you.
ThorTheOdinSon 7 months ago
@64MojoMan
1: Titanic sank because it was poorly captained, a 1 inch thick hull was relativley thin for a vessel of that size BTW.
2: If you're talking about JFK, then you're just a sick fucker.
3: DO YOU REALLY THINK (yes! "think") that peoples pets/kids heal because they prayed, and not because they went to a place where people who have qualifications from a scientifically proven back
ground like, idunnno, school - college etc, have saved thier lives. IDIOT.
mikester1290 6 months ago
@64MojoMan 1 and 2 (because they're both the same point) There are people who say that they're never going to win the lottery then they win the lottery, does this prove god made them win the lottery?
3. peoples children/pets are gonna die, they pray and they die. does this disprove god? peoples children/pets are gonna die, they don't pray and they live. does this disprove god? prayer is demonstrably as effective as not praying
AntiMatterWave 6 months ago
God exisits you fool
fabiolopes92 8 months ago
@fabiolopes92 God doesn't exist, do you see any other animals on this earth bowing down and praying to the skies? No, that's because we'd call them crazy if they did. Why is it any different for humans? Ever heard of evolution? Or maybe the Big Bang Theory? Christians just move the goal posts every time someone comes up with new evidence. Remember the old days when people said god lived in the skies? Basically, there's no chance what so ever that there is a "god". Get some common sense.
scootler 8 months ago
@fabiolopes92 No, it's the fire breathing dragon that is the one true god, recant your faith in your false god Yahweh or burn in the pit of the fire dragon on the day of scaley judgement!
pamew 7 months ago
@honeyblossom17 well, how else was everything made and dont say evolution because that is stupid if you think about it. But im sorry if i offended you or anything.
theunstopabletomato 8 months ago
there is no logical reason for either side if he does or doesn't you can bring on your bio-genesis views on which we said that there must be intelligent matter to make intelligent matter when you counter how does God exist who created him comparing him to a human who is to say there is no God we may just be here doing nothing following no niche in life but anyone on you-tube give me a good reason why he exists or doesn't exist
P.S. im a Christian
failpeople1 9 months ago
sweet dawn of the dead poster in the background
afreakingjew2 10 months ago
One day every knee will bow and every tongue will sing for the glory of God
theunstopabletomato 10 months ago
@theunstopabletomato:
Erm, yeah.....sure.....
And one day tomatoes will grow on our elbows and dogs will have 3 heads.
throbule 10 months ago
@theunstopabletomato- Please cut the crap, have you ever even thought of just how many people have been saying over the decades and nothing has ever happend!? And besides that, just where is your proof for this other than a 2000 year old book?
honeyblossom17 9 months ago
@honeyblossom17 Plus the older portion of said 'book' is a collection of even older 'books'.
humanistheart 9 months ago
@humanistheart- I know right, which worries me even more than people just have no IDEA!
honeyblossom17 9 months ago
@honeyblossom17 Oh yeah. It also annoys me when people say The Bible. There are so many different the bibles no one stands as THE bible, as that implies one. If it was just translation differences sure, but its cannon differences! They can't all be 'the word of god' lol.
humanistheart 9 months ago
@humanistheart- lol Lmao! I know right!
honeyblossom17 9 months ago
I don't understand why either side needs to argue about whether or not god exists. We will all find out for ourselves when we die. Religion is a very personal thing, and I don't believe that it should ever be brought up in civilized conversation. Peoples' beliefs are way too deep to change by arguing about them.
monsterhunterjack 10 months ago
who wants to talk about helios
soothingspirt17 11 months ago
carl sagan is the man. for those of you who are having trouble understanding this. LOL!
tripleraven 11 months ago
one thing i don't understand, why most people that doesn't believe in God, believe in Devil? If God doesn't exist, the Devil automatically wouldn't exist !
MAXMARTINS23 1 year ago
man this is one boring video. I fell a sleep
lostbot101 1 year ago
How is this for a theory. If a thing takes up no space, emits no energy, and is invisible there is no proof of existence. The only place that no existence can exist is in the mind as a concept or belief. That puts it in the realm of imagination and therefore it is imaginary. The religious believe in a imaginary deity that exist only in their imagination. Does this make any sense to anyone else?
royme55 1 year ago
@royme55:
It makes absolutely perfect sense - but try telling that to the 'god' pushers.
throbule 10 months ago
@royme55 This is circular reasoning: Existence is defined by what is observable by humans - humans can only observe what exists. You said non-existence can only exist (HAHAHA) in the mind. I didn't know non existence could exist. By your own philosophical arguments the existence of a concept in the mind could prove existence because it exists in the mind. I can counter your silly argument with equally silly circular arguments. Does this make sense to anyone else?
yumpin 8 months ago
@yumpin If you would stop and think for just a minute you would see how stupid your response is. You can imagine something, such a a god or gods but for it to be real, it has to be provable in the real world. If there is no way to prove or disprove your god then it remains as a concept in your mind. There is no "circular" anything to this it is either real and provable or imaginary. If that isn't simple enough for you then you lack critical think abilities.
royme55 8 months ago
@royme55 again in this response you define the terms of existence. All things in existence do not necessarily take up space, emit energy etc. Some examples would be gravity or any force, and many laws of science. These things have been discovered because of their effects not because of observable properties=why people can believe in God. Your argument is circular because it relies on it's proposition (your definition of existence). Intelligent athiests would be embarrased to see your logic
yumpin 8 months ago
@yumpin The gravity argument is not valid because gravity is provable just drop something heavier than air and it falls. Okay, buy your thinking you should be able to prove there is a God or gods but their effect. So go ahead and describe an effect that proves there is a god. It must pass your own criteria of an observable physical effect. This effect must be more than and imagined one and extent beyond mere belief to reality. I look forward to your response.
royme55 8 months ago
@yumpin I will reply to your comment about intelligent atheist and my logic. I scored 162 on my last IQ test and I at least have logic. I do not believe in an imaginary man created deity that lives in the sky. His other attributes are (if you believe the Buy Bull) the greatest mass murderer in history (the flood). He advocate such things as genocide, slavery and the subjugation of women. I submit to you that is a lack of logic for a modern world.
royme55 8 months ago
@royme55 regardless of your claimed IQ you still use circular reasoning. There is no way to disprove the existence of God. Even Richard Dawkins himself says he can't be 100% (he is 99% lol) percent sure there is no God because he knows you cannot disprove (or prove) his existence. You have faith that there was an uncaused effect called the big bang, and I have faith that an uncaused Creator made the universe. Both views are beyond empirical science and require faith.
yumpin 8 months ago
@yumpin By the strict terms of 'prove' that's true, that one cannot prove a negative. This god doesn't exist, so there's no evidence one way or the other.
How could your creator be uncaused? At any rate, no one has faith in the 'big bang' because there's evidence for it. That's a logical conclusion, not a belief. And no, the big bang is not beyond science, or we'd have no concept of it.
humanistheart 8 months ago
@yumpin It is, however possible to disprove the christian god logically. Since it's only logic, it's not empiracle proof and not the level of which you speak, but it's a form of disproving it at any rate.
For example, no being could be both omnipotent and omniscient. They are mutually exclusive terms, but the christian god is said to be. Since it's impossible, said god cannot exist.
humanistheart 8 months ago
@humanistheart You cannot disprove something logically that you cannot disprove through empirical science. You say no being could be all knowing and all powerful. These terms are not exclusive, they go hand in hand. This is not logically impossible by any means other than in your own mind. You can't define these terms by anything because you can't test or demonstrate them (empirical science). Your logic is based on philosophical assumptions, and not proof, hence the term opinion.
yumpin 8 months ago
@yumpin Stricktly speaking no, you are correct in that. Because logic can only be as advanced as our own understanding. But for all intensive purposes, one can discredit gods or faith systems.
Yes, one can say those are logically mutually exclusive. Your right in that that's not and end all, as you said, there is no empirical bases for it, but is more of an intellectual and ethical exercise.
humanistheart 8 months ago
@yumpin you can't disprove the existence of a un-defined deity but you can disprove a certain deity by looking at the "books" they gave man. Seeing what they say and use science to disprove the claims. As we have done with every Popular Deity ever imagined by man. What we have exhaustively done with Yahweh and Allah! It's funny the first few paragraphs in the bible talk about day and night being created. Yet the sun hasn't even been created yet. And it calls the Moon a Great Light. Too funny!
ThorTheOdinSon 7 months ago
@ThorTheOdinSon If there is a God who created everything, would it then defy logic for Him to have created light waves from earth all the way to where the stars were going to be, so we wouldn't have to wait billions of years for the light from the stars? The verse you refer to defines day as literally light, Could a God who created everything not create a continuous directional light source to have day and night? You have disproved nothing, you gave an opinion based on your logic.
yumpin 7 months ago
@ThorTheOdinSon In short, you cannot disprove God by reading a book that is open to interpretation (not even in its original language) and finding 'logical flaws' which are just your interpretations on how things have to be because of your prior convictions. As I have stated before you cannot disprove God through empirical science, nor can you prove any origins theory, or any historical book. try reading evolution handbook by vance ferrell for evidence for God
yumpin 7 months ago
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@yumpin and you have priests and pastor's running around telling their flock of sheep that the theory's science provides us, match perfectly with genesis. And you know those sheep aren't going home to make sure that's the case. Otherwise they wouldn't believe in the first place. Unless of course they also have not read the bible. Which in my years of debating sadly a majority of "Christians" do not know there religion as well as the atheists i talk to.
ThorTheOdinSon 7 months ago
The ratio of people who honestly did not believe they were healed is like 1 out of 15. This can be for various reasons and even though basically everyone gets healed and is like totally surprised and without doubt, it is still rare for them to accept Jesus because of there own ideas, sinful ways, and doubts about how they get healed. The reason i do this is for them to accept Jesus and be saved and sadly they are often to deceived to believe.
MrOnfireforGod 1 year ago
@MrOnfireforGod You are brashwashed. You didn't even answer my questions.
EradicateEndings 1 year ago
How about this........
Do you know wind exists? Well you can't see it. But of course, you can feel it and see its work.
Its the same for God! You can't see Him yet if you, as the bible says, seek then you will find. When i did seek, i found. He has only been real and proven Himself to me. I can't see Him but i can feel Him and see His works and as he works.
MrOnfireforGod 1 year ago
@MrOnfireforGod no its not that is a complete different example. Winds doesn't hide in the closet
EradicateEndings 1 year ago
@EradicateEndings Actually, its more like God knocks on your door at your house(mind,spirit). You may even start to see Him move before you receive Him in such ways as seeing Him move in church or atmospheres of God's presence, witnessing miracles, or even having a miracle happen to you.
Example: Sometimes i pray for people who are sick or have pains and different physical problems. Basically, even though i will often do it in a place where they are not seeking God(mainly public school)......
MrOnfireforGod 1 year ago
@MrOnfireforGod God is not real. Man created God. He allow cults like the Jws the exist. He allowed the Black Race to suffer. MORE than Jews. Because now you can just say, that we don't even own a country. Why would he would want a new person being born against him ? The Adam and Eve doesn't make any sense. Didn't Satan LIE To Eve. Because of this why does Satan live longer than we do ? Plants live long than us. Because Man created stories.
EradicateEndings 1 year ago
@EradicateEndings What question? Restate it. Its sounds to me like your the one brainwashed. Jews have suffered for thousands of years and they(talking about the Israelis) have been nearly wiped out several times. In the last chapter of Daniel it talked about the days in which the Roman army would be going to war with the Israelis. the days are completely accurate according to history. It even says if these days weren't shortened then no one would survive. There was a ceasefire.
MrOnfireforGod 1 year ago
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EradicateEndings 1 year ago
@MrOnfireforGod Iol I forgot about you. Why does Satan live longer than us, if Satan was the one who lied to Eve in the first place? Blacks suffered more than Jews, How long wear Jews slaves ? For thousands of years, were Jews will educated? Did they looked ugly as hell ? with diseases ? Did they live in shit holes ? Name a black person in Africa that had a relationship with God without the accompany of other races. during those times ?
EradicateEndings 1 year ago
@EradicateEndings This isn't an argument of who suffered more. Besides, black is a color, while Jew is a religion. Over history a lot of different people suffered for various reasons and in various ways. Some suffered more then others. You saying "The bible is fake" is a general statement made with opinion. I don't know anyone who has ever said its stories came from different cultures. It appears to me that everyone is saying it came from the Israelis/Hebrews/Jew.
MrOnfireforGod 1 year ago
@MrOnfireforGod lol or yes it is. God only came up to the Jews while everyone else was killing themselves. The bible is fake because it was made by "imperfect " humans. That is a mistake, if you are going to allow A "perfect" person die for us. and have our lives at the hands of imperfect people. One right, one wrong ? What is the point ? It sounds like the work of humans not a God. Some of the stories fables came from Romain, Greek, and Indian culture.
EradicateEndings 1 year ago
@EradicateEndings Indian? Where not American Indian. Besides that, God chose them before they even came to be. You can't put it in the perspective of the bible and God without doing it completely. God chose them before the world was even created. He told Abraham that he would give birth to great nations. He made it know to Jacob that his offspring would be God's before they were even born. The bible was given through the Spirit to humans. The bible was inspired by God and that's what it says.
MrOnfireforGod 1 year ago
@EradicateEndings The work of humans is people saying that there are many gods. An idea of the different aspects of this world being gods or having gods for them. That is what man created. Belief that are of One God that contradicts the God of the bible can be found to have come after the God of the Jews and so are perversions, while Jesus Christ is fulfillment to the OT and the Jews.
MrOnfireforGod 1 year ago
@EradicateEndings I already addressed your question of why Satan lives longer than us. If you look at my comments then you will see and understand that he doesn't live longer then us. You saying God doesn't exist if Satan exists is just an opinion based on your own secular understanding. In the bible it says not to lean on your own understanding. I have never understood better then i did when God's Spirit started revealing things to me.
MrOnfireforGod 1 year ago
@MrOnfireforGod you over looked my question. Satan lives longer than us. We die, he continues. lol Its commonsense. God doesn't exist if Satan exists because God himself don't make mistakes and he don't make himself to appear unclean and hypercritical. Do you believe what the bible states ? He don't associate with unclean things. Satan is unclean and is the problem that God is going to have to fix.
EradicateEndings 1 year ago
@EradicateEndings Satan doesn't live longer then us. He doesn't even live in the way that humans lived. He is physically dead because he was never created to be physical but he was always spiritual. He fell and so died spiritually by sinning and so was separated from God. He doesn't have fellowship with God and you should see that he was dead spiritually before humans were even created. Can you still say he lives longer then us? He was dead before we existed.
MrOnfireforGod 1 year ago
@EradicateEndings Sorry i am putting so many comments but it seems necessary to reply. Satan was called before God at times such as in Job. He has to come before God when called for obvious reasons. God does not associate with the devil but he does do such things as are outlined in Job. Gods Spirit is not with the devil nor is it with any sinners. There is something else. The devil, because he started this perversion(sin), has the right to those who sin.
MrOnfireforGod 1 year ago
@EradicateEndings One more point. Everyone suffers about the same when they die, if they are not true Christians anyway and in the case of History if they were not true Jews and servants of God. I'm talking about Hell of course. While these others i named, go to have eternal peace with God.
MrOnfireforGod 1 year ago
@MrOnfireforGod the religion thing is fake. its for people who can't face the fact that they are going to die and not come back. Lol you know what happens after death, but you don't know what happened before birth. This sounds like God with no beginning or end. The bible is fake because it can't answer the real world's question. Why do you cry when somebody dies ? Wouldn't you know that there is going to be resurrection ? There are coming back why cry ? Because you don't believe. lol
EradicateEndings 1 year ago
@EradicateEndings Sins is separation from God and invitation to the devil and demonic spirits. I first realized that God is real when i was just a little kid. It had nothing to do with where i felt i was going to go when i died. I don't even think i had thought about it.
MrOnfireforGod 1 year ago
@EradicateEndings Here is a little testimony: When i was young i hated my life, hated going to church, and didn't believe in God and even hated the thought of Him. One day at Sunday School i felt miserable and decided to ask Him if He is there to be real to me. I can't remember exactly what i said but it had something to do with that. I was kinda mellow at that moment but then came this awesome peace that surpasses all understanding and this overwhelming presence. I didn't expect it.
MrOnfireforGod 1 year ago
@EradicateEndings Last comment. My testimony reflects on what the bible says. "If you will seek then you will find." Of course you have to really mean it and be open to God. I didn't stay consistent in my relationship with God. After all, i was young, just a kid. So hey, instead of this discussion between me and you why don't you just open yourself to the possibility and seek in the same way i did. Also ask Him to forgive you of your sins in Jesus s name. PLEASE READ COMMENTS FROM BOTTOM UP.
MrOnfireforGod 1 year ago
@EradicateEndings Cont: Both the days till the end of the last battle between them and the days after that when the ceasefire happened are in the last chapter of Daniel. Look it up. Not just in the bible but also according to history. Compare the time lines. Also, it doesn't appear that anyone knows the color of the Israelis at that time. It doesn't appear to be the same of today. It was like dark or tan. Really, it doesn't matter though. Satan isn't physical. He is spiritual( a fallen angel)
MrOnfireforGod 1 year ago
@EradicateEndings Cont again: We all have spirits and so what does this mean? Context clues. We all live forever! Whether in pain and misery or peace and the life of God, well, that depends if you have a true relationship with Jesus Christ. Man does create stories. So did a lot of people in churches in our history. Yet, Gods word is sound. Its historically and scientifically accurate. It also isn't contradicted. I have only found it to make sense in my life and others. Don't assume things.
MrOnfireforGod 1 year ago
@MrOnfireforGod The bible is fake. All these stories came from different cultures. There is no such thing as a fly human with winds. God don't exist if Satan exist.
EradicateEndings 1 year ago
there's no theory of evolution just a list of creatures Chuck Norris allows to live
poopsack21 1 year ago
what you are asking is someone to believe in your delusion..you said :maybe I need help"...meds will be a solution to your delusion. Thanks for sharing your reality but so ill supported by mine.
Talonsage 1 year ago
It's very sad how so many people go through life only trusting in what their eyes see.
mysticgatekeeper 1 year ago
@mysticgatekeeper Thats not entirely true. There are a lot of things in this world that we can't see but they exist......but they CAN be detected and observed.
talover30 1 year ago
The same applies about God. If you are willing then you too can experience God. When it comes to God, people refuse to believe unless they can see him but that's the astonishing fact about God. If you are willing to take the first small step, He will reveal himself to you! So what's stopping you?
mysticgatekeeper 1 year ago
@mysticgatekeeper So, the experience of God is completely dependent upon individuals choosing to have that experience? That is the same as acknowledging that God is a man-made idea. Your concept of experiencing God is on the same level as a vision brought on by a hallucinogen.
CheezMonsterCrazy 1 year ago
No, the reality here is that your ignorance is what's keeping you from seeing what you have blinded yourself to. Experiencing God is like building a relationship with any friend you have. If you are not willing to put in the time to get to know your friends, they will walk away. You only get what you put into it. If you only call your friends when you need something, they won't have anything to do with you. If you're willing to spend the time and have it develop, then you will discover something
mysticgatekeeper 1 year ago
that your mind is not capable of comprehending. You chose to blind yourself to God and you're blaming me for it. If you want to tape your eyes shut, then that is a choice that you made for yourself. Pull the tape off and see what's been in front of you all the time.
Ignorance is not an excuse for anything.
mysticgatekeeper 1 year ago
@mysticgatekeeper I never blamed you for anything, did I? I explained a flaw in your reasoning and you responded with a jumble of analogies that when disassembled contain exactly this: "I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG!" You think I'm ignorant and blinded, when in truth I am more knowledgeable and open-minded then you will ever be. I am not opposed to the idea of there being a god, nor am I dependent on it one way or the other. It is for that reason that I am able to see the world for what it is.
CheezMonsterCrazy 1 year ago
You may not have openly blamed me but your stance is clear. There is no God and I'm ignorant etc. I'm glad I'm not open minded as you claim. In fact, believing in God is a very narrow minded approach which I take as a compliment. You've been too busy following what others have been telling you rather than looking for yourself. By claiming you are far more knowledgeable only supports the fact that you also vain and ignorant. You see what you want to see and ignore the rest.
mysticgatekeeper 1 year ago
I've never been able to understand people such as yourself and your resentment towards God. What has God done to you to make you so resentful? What exactly is it that you hate about God? How were you harmed by him?
If you have the right to attack God then don't I have the right to defend? Are you prepared to go to your grave with your beliefs considering you have no proof which supports your stance? You are either 100% right or 100% wrong. There is no second chance in this race.
mysticgatekeeper 1 year ago
@mysticgatekeeper I just said I have no "resentment" towards god, nor the idea of there being one. To spell it out for you again, I am not dependent upon it one way or the other. I am not attacking god, because I don't believe there is one. I am arguing with you.
And I am not making any claims here, therefore I have no burden of evidence. You make the claim that god exists, and must back it up with evidence, not tell me something is there and ask me to prove it isn't.
CheezMonsterCrazy 1 year ago
You in fact are making a very profound claim. You have made it clear that you don't believe in God. There are only two options for every human. You believe or reject. There is no middle ground. Just because you have no evidence proves nothing. The evidence exists and it's up to you to take the initiative to locate it. Once you find it, you will have no option but to believe. It's that overwhelming.
mysticgatekeeper 1 year ago
You are afraid of what you will find and that means you are accountable to somebody greater than yourself. If God is the creator then you are the created. God sets the rules and you have no option but to either abide or rebel. You hate the idea of having somebody tell you there is a line that cannot be crossed or there will be consequences. You are happy living your life by your rules and you don't want anybody telling you that you are doing something wrong.
mysticgatekeeper 1 year ago
@mysticgatekeeper Dude, prove your God exists first, then we can talk about whether he hates "him".
CRISNCHIPS12398 1 year ago
Denying God changes nothing. He still exists regardless of your beliefs. You may as well deny that gravity exists while you're at it. As for proving God, that's not something I will do. God has already provided the evidence which you have chosen to ignore. Consider this question very carefully. If you did have the evidence you want in your hands. What are you prepared to do with it?
If you had the evidence, the fact is that you are terrified with what it will mean to your existence.
mysticgatekeeper 1 year ago
@mysticgatekeeper You're not going to prove that YOUR GOD even exists!!! Wow, then why don't you go ahead and believe in even the most ludicrous ideas such as the existence of pixies and unicorns?! Why do you believe in something that has unproven and also makes some of the most ridiculous claims that any intelligent person would laugh off as complete insanity?
CRISNCHIPS12398 1 year ago
Regardless of what I say or provide, you won't accept it to begin with. So what do you want me to offer here? You say there is no God. Ok, I say that skepticism/atheism has never given hope to the hopeless. It has never restored a broken life. It has never cured sickness. It has never made anybody smile when surrounded by darkness. It has never offered a future for anything. This is your life bubba, how great things must seem to you. From my side, I have witnessed sight restored to the blind.
mysticgatekeeper 1 year ago
I have seen the deaf receive hearing. I have seen those who were given a death sentence from doctors cured from cancer. I have seen the lame stand up from the wheelchair and walk again. I have seen those with one leg shorter than the other have it grow grow in length instantly as I stood and watched. I have the proof of God which says "call on me and I WILL answer you". I have never seen anybody forsaken who trusts in God. I have the proof you refuse to accept. You have no answers to anything.
mysticgatekeeper 1 year ago
You will never accept any evidence because you are terrified of what that will mean to somebody like yourself. For every thought, there is a thinker. For every design there is a designer. For every plan there is a planner. You have convinced yourself that if you don't believe in God, then you are not accountable. Wrong bub. You are accountable regardless of what you believe. What you believe has no bearing on reality. Ever.
mysticgatekeeper 1 year ago
@mysticgatekeeper Sir, you're just dodging my question. Just give me A SINGLE EXAMPLE OF YOUR GOD'S EXISTENCE! Surely that can't be too hard for you considering you are clearly a very religious person.
CRISNCHIPS12398 1 year ago
You're asking the wrong question. I don't need proof. You do. You should be asking "how can I have proof of God". The answer is clear. First. YOU are required to take initiative if you want God to answer. Second, the scripture is clear "call on me and I WILL answer". God makes it clear that he has every intention to prove himself to you but you have to take the first step. What are you prepared to do. How badly do you want your proof and what will you do with it once you get it?
mysticgatekeeper 1 year ago
@mysticgatekeeper Okay, now we're done. You are so ridiculously deluded that you cannot understand how reasoning and evidence work together for a person claiming something to persuade others. You are claiming that a so called "God" exists, therefore you must give me extraordinary evidence on behalf of this entity to prove it.
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CRISNCHIPS12398 1 year ago
@mysticgatekeeper I'll make a scenario just so you can get this through your extremely thick, brainwashed mind.
I wonder if you believe that I can fly. Yes, it is true that I can fly and I have flown to Mars.
Now, what would say if I told you that YOU have to disprove that I can fly to Mars. You would say that is completely wrong and my logic was completely backwards. This is exactly the same with your mumbo-jumbo logic. Your reasoning is no greater that fools like Ray Comfort and children.
CRISNCHIPS12398 1 year ago
The only thing you have proven here is that you don't know what you want. If you are expecting me to spoon feed you, think again. You want proof but you refuse to do what's necessary. The proof is at your fingertips and you prefer to play games. We're not talking about flying here. We're talking about proving that God exists and you are changing directions. The fact is that you don't want proof because it terrifies you. You prefer to convince yourself that it's not possible so you can live your
mysticgatekeeper 1 year ago
@mysticgatekeeper Alright, we are obviously done. You clearly cannot answer one simple question to justify your belief. Have a good life wallowing in ignorance and complete idiocy.
CRISNCHIPS12398 1 year ago
Try reading what I wrote to you below and you'll find your answers. If you could only admit that you won't try then I would actually have respect for your honesty. Instead, you have decided to turn the tables and run. Fine, I do intend to have a good life. You on the other hand are the one who has refused to comment and answer some very simple questions. I take your insults as compliments and thank you for your time.
mysticgatekeeper 1 year ago
@mysticgatekeeper Wow, oh wow. Your ignorance and complete idiocy knows no bounds. I have asked you a simple question. And all you do is do circles around it with extremely long comments that have no relevance to the question. I will give you a final chance. JUSTIFY THAT YOUR GOD EXISTS.
I can already see how your going to respond. Your just going to spout off some pathetic scripture or give meaningless appeals to emotions like fear.
CRISNCHIPS12398 1 year ago
@mysticgatekeeper So basically you can't provide any evidence for the existence of god. Come on, cut to the chase and stop changing the subject.
cakeisnotanumber 1 year ago
life the way you want. Ok, feel free to keep living your way. I personally don't care what you do. You wanted to know if God is real and I gave you the answer and you reject it. Why? What is it about God that terrifies you? What are you afraid you're going to find? You have no choice but to answer that question to yourself. It what you don't see in life that matters most. This is all about faith and faith has no limitations. I'll prove to you that even you rely on faith in life.
mysticgatekeeper 1 year ago
You would NEVER get into a plane unless you knew somebody certified it safe. You would never take any medication unless you knew it will help you. You would never sit in a car unless you knew the driver could drive. Faith is a part of your life regardless of what you believe. Call me anything you want if it makes you feel superior. Remember, it's what you can't see that will always affect you the most. Ignorance is never an excuse for anything. Why do you rely on it?
mysticgatekeeper 1 year ago
@CRISNCHIPS12398 'Why don't you go ahead and believe in even the most ludicrous ideas such as the existence of pixies and unicorns?' Who are you to say pixies and unicorns aren't out there some where? Especially unicorns? We are finding crazier forms of life than that right here on Earth and youtube.
I praise All in One because I'm quite certain the spaghetti entity will come to consume those who do not give thanks for pasta. Peace be with your noodles. May you have much cheese with your whine.
Keiranforreal 1 year ago
With all the evidence Allah has given man, only those who will not believe will think otherwise, and woe to the unbeliever, tell them of a day when man will wish he were one with the earth.
wiseyedgirl 1 year ago
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JohananRaatz 1 year ago
Finally I have something to believe in!!!
WatashiwaCheese 1 year ago
I won't be rude and I don't mean to offend you. I appreciate your attempt to assert ideas as well. Philosophically, if there wasn't an All-Mighty Creator/Ruler of the universe then you couldn't account for the very truth of "evidence" to begin with. Nothing would make sense. There would be no preconditions for intelligibility.
JohnO318 1 year ago
@JohnO318 Nope, I don't understand what you are talking about.
UrukEngineer 1 year ago
@JohnO318 Nothing make sense in the first place. It is humans that create these preconditions for intelligibility. Reality is more complex than our minds can cope with, so we break it down and compartmentalize it. The very notion of an all-powerful creator is testament to this, it is a coping mechanism, the largest of most people's compartments. Do not attempt to out philosophize someone who has been up all night.
CheezMonsterCrazy 1 year ago
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All the religions are made for money by the sharp peoples.
But the original massages of GOD or ALLAH,s by his massinger
are the true. And excellent for the practical life. If you read
the GOD,s original books then you automatically believe.
mafzalmr 1 year ago
it pisses me off how you heartless dumb ass doesnt belive in god and if we have feelings and cry and have faith in luck that comes from a higher power we would not think and have a deep feelin g in our heart thats a soul but head maybe his names not god but theres a good strong power up there but I dont give a shit if you believe when you die and go to hell you will cry and regret what you just said I feel sorry for you .
ZAYFATful 1 year ago
@ZAYFATful Go back to school OR please stop commenting on youtube! :)
thetrazor 1 year ago
@thetrazor well i u stop shoving twinkies down ur throat get alife old hag and ur an athiast retarded punk that probly is a 40yr old non married man so shut up
ZAYFATful 1 year ago
how did the universe start then and if you can tell me that then how did your answer start... there might be a god might not all i no is even if there is no god i dont think you wasted ur life at church if you think so then well then fuck off. Btw didnt mean to go gods servant on ur as im not religous at all
MarshulLaw 1 year ago
Religion is one massive FAIL!
if there was no religion, there wouldnt be any problems
if you dont agree then your just being retarded and in denial
MrCanadaOntario 1 year ago 2
CHALLENGE
WELL U SAID THAT WILE TESTING UR PHISICAL LAWS ON DRAGON,ALL OF THEM FAILED.BUT U DINT TELL WITH WHICH PHYSICAL LAW U R TESTING GOD ,
GIVE ME ONE SUCH LAW ,I WILL INSHAALLAH DISPROVE IT.USING U SO CALLED LOGICAL APPROACH.ITS A CHALLENGE
mmtheripper 1 year ago
@mmtheripper your english is so horrible, that i cant understand a shit
OmfgItsHenu 1 year ago
Hi! I've often noticed that atheists crave for certainty. They need to know, for sure, that there's no God. I guess a more secure (mature?) aptitude would be to say: “I can't prove there's a God, I can't prove there's no God, but whether there's a God or not, I'll do what I think is right, regardless of the consequences. Believers in God should also say: “I'll do what I think is right, whether there's a God or not.” To me, this is a more mature approach to the dilemma of God's existence. Peace.
RabinoBoricuaVirtual 1 year ago
@RabinoBoricuaVirtual Just because people want to debate the existence of God doesn`t mean they need to know if god exists before they can make decisions or that they need to know if God exists to know what is right. Surely you realize that most atheists believe that morality exists but did not come from a God? Atheists DO do what they think is right whether or not there is a God. To suggest that we are in some kind of moral waiting room until a decision about God is reached is silly.
shrikechan 1 year ago
@shrike
I respect your position.It would be great if thinks were the way you describe them. Unfortunately, they aren't.The fact is that too many Americans are atheists not as a result of a personal search for "truth" (actually, truth often doesn't really matter), but rather as a response to an American religious establishment whose depiction of God is little more than a caricature.I'm Jewish and, while living in the USA, I often visited church services; eventually, I stop believing in their God.
RabinoBoricuaVirtual 1 year ago
@RabinoBoricuaVirtual The problem is that to many ppl use gods to justify what they do, even they bring death, starvation and terrors to men women and children... And ppl follow them cuz they think it is that gods will...
thetrazor 1 year ago
@thetrazor
I Completely agree with you. No perspective of God (whether it be religious or secular) that portraits the source of all being as promoting hatred, strife and evil behaviour toward our fellow human beings can be a true conception of that Supreme Authority; the One which contains the perfect paradigms of all manifested reality. Maybe evil can be ascribed to a super advanced, "near god", alien being; but certainly never to the Supreme Authority that gave birth to our Universe. Peace!
RabinoBoricuaVirtual 1 year ago
And about Israel... hard to explain how a country about the size of New Jersey is able to defend and keep out countries and terrorist from countries many times their size ... and look how often the jews are persecuted through out history and how much they are HATED today...if the devil influences the earth doesnt it make sense he would go after Gods chosen people more than anyone
mhwelcholemissedu 1 year ago
@mhwelcholemissedu First of all, Israel failed to defend themselves. They lost to the Assyrians, they lost to the Babylonians, they lost to the Romans. And today they're the one's committing genocide against the Palestinians with the help from one of the most powerful countries in the world, the USA.
2nd of all, minority groups that refuse to assimilate into their hosts cultures always cause problems, and the jewish people were no exception. Look into it.
humanistheart 1 year ago
This guy who wrote the book kinda contradicted himself when he said to "reject the hypothesis" and then says stay "open to future physical data" ... well to stay well if you just reject the idea then its rjected but to stay open minded you cant completely reject an idea
mhwelcholemissedu 1 year ago
Learn the The jewish history + come live in Israel for a year and you will find that God is exist!
77Merav 1 year ago
@77Merav The history of the jewish people is all a fake. nothing historically prooven. Just bullshit.how can a god choose one people among the creatures he was supposed to have created??? To think jews are THE people is the same thing as the nazi's theory according which they were THE best humans on Earth !!
Bullshit. God is just a story made by the strong to control the weak. fuck him !
alain973 1 year ago
@alain973 Why is fake.. tell me where ? bring the me verses.
Interesting coz I heard Many Muslims like you That claiming that The Bible is corrupt.
wow and sorry to tell you but The jews are Not Nazis and do NOT have a nazi's theory!
MY grandfather was a Christian that saved jews in war world II and after the war chose to Live In Israel..
sell Your hate To your ignorant Islamo leftist friends , I'm suer they will like it. pathetic !
God exists and Israel Is the proof!
77Merav 1 year ago
@77Merav "wow and sorry to tell you but The jews are Not Nazis and do NOT have a nazi's theory!"
Perhaps not. But in the fictional bible the hebrew and israelite people to commit numerous mass genocides and infanticides. And the state of israel in modern day is committing a genocide even today against he Palestinians. Sounds nazi-ish to me.
humanistheart 1 year ago
@humanistheart and The atheists didn't? Lanin- 22 million, Stalin- 52 million
Mao-40 million...
The state of Israel "committing a genocide even today"..lol !
The Arabs so called Palestinians supported Hitler(The mufti)- fact!
The Arabs so called Palestinians- PLO, Hamas cite Hitler in Their platform- fact
The Arabs so called Palestinians- reject The UN partition and in The name of Islam Wag wars agianst Israel!
How do you say Palestinians in Arabic?
ignorance it's like a disease !
77Merav 1 year ago
@77Merav I know of no one named Lanin who committed mass genocide. As for Mao, he started a CULT of personality. That's a religious thing, not an atheist thing.
"The Arabs so called Palestinians supported Hitler(The mufti)- fact!"
First of all, I've never seen evidence to support that, second even if it were true, so what? They did something you don't like so it's okay to commit mass genocide? What kind of logic is that?
"ignorance it's like a disease" And you sound terminal with it.
humanistheart 1 year ago
@humanistheart to much psychology (in penny) can damage your brain.
find the truth and a shrink- psychoanalytic( a jewish one )!
77Merav 1 year ago
@77Merav LOL, that's the best you can do? Couldn't defend your genocide claims so now your just making personal attacks. Haha. Why'd you even bother responding? You couldn't possibly have thought that would work, could you?
humanistheart 1 year ago
you are funny. i was raise Pentecostal, sanctified or whatever you know it to be. i was in church all of my young life and into early adulthood. i still believe all that i was taught. do i put it all into practice. no. i should, but i don't. it's not a deliberate thing. i just have tons of excuses. lazy, sex, demonic movies, pride, fear. you name it. God will always be something you and your fellow atheist will find impossible to disprove, and i can't use my proof to prove it to you.
jww312 1 year ago
heard it before from other atheists. please be original next time. quoting another athiest is hardly proof that God doesn't exist. it's all one-sided. i don't doubt carl sagan wasn't clever. he's just wrong. lol
jww312 1 year ago
@jww312 so your saying you can't disprove the dragon... lol. It's not that difficult to make up something that can't be disproving like i just made you with all your memories and the entire world that you remember. Disprove me...
iAMsoBEAST1 1 year ago
@iAMsoBEAST1 lmao. dude i don't give a shit what you believe. i just hate humans who want to be gods. as i've been saying, you'll have all the proof you need when you are dead. as young as the human race is people like you believe that EVERYTHING has been discovered. until we die no one can say what is beyond death. so when idiots like you open your ignorant mouths denying what you don't know for certain, you sound like mental patient. i simply operate on the principal of faith. NEXT
jww312 1 year ago
@jww312 so your faith is fear driven... Here let me show you with a one question. Are you scared of the unknown of death? Your answer will be no, I'm going to heaven, but really, what got you to believe that. In fact it was that you are scared of what you don't know and instead of accepting it as a unknown you replace it with god as a filler. Your afraid of death, and so is everyone else, but unlike atheists, Christians and other religions decide, " oh let's just say your eternally rewarded."
iAMsoBEAST1 1 year ago
@iAMsoBEAST1 lol. no i am going to hell in my current state. i'm no saint. like i told the idiot before you. i am probably FAAAR more evil than you could ever imagine being. i just accept what i was taught. as a child and no empty-headed person who believes in nothing at all can never change that at least. now the application is o whole other matter. one day i will find my way back to God. maybe you too. he knows you better than you do.
jww312 1 year ago
@iAMsoBEAST1 and no death never scares me. i am bi-polar and have been suicidal. now what.
jww312 1 year ago
@jww312 Don't have kids. Let your genes die out so evolution can take its course...
iAMsoBEAST1 1 year ago
@jww312 The truth is much more interesting then the made up stories of any cultural beliefs. If you get the chance look up at the night sky. Think of all the solar systems that may harbor life, the multitude of galaxies, and the new discovery of an earth like solar system. From this I hope you will realize how ignorant it is to believe that the Universe is ours and only ours. Sorry 'bout the last rather vulgar comment. Peace
iAMsoBEAST1 1 year ago
@iAMsoBEAST1 i'm with you 1000% in believing that there is life beyond us. you have me confused with a fanatic who think God was only limited to making humans. we may differ about theism, but we are on par about life elsewhere.
jww312 1 year ago
@jww312 I'm still confused, how, even though it goes against the bible, along with many other things, you still are somehow clinging onto the belief of god... Please just answer this, do you actually follow Christianity as you are suppose to, following the bible, or have you dropped most of the mistakes people have found reading through it and created your own miniature religion that works best for you, creating an image that is impossible to disprove...?
iAMsoBEAST1 1 year ago
@jww312 Everything hasn't been discovered and some things will never be discovered. You and your faith are as little truth as a person saying you'll end up in a magic world of chocolate. Faith is useless except as false hope
iAMsoBEAST1 1 year ago
@Godisawesome44 Absolutely not! I believe dragons were a real animal, and thus an invisible one could never exist. I know people talk about gods with different attributes, but the God of the Bible, by definition, is invisible. We must keep the attributes of an object with the object itself.
YHWHisSovereign 1 year ago
so????
i ve toy`s ....so.....santa exists???
robot014 1 year ago
This mans head looks like a penis.
seansalvador1 1 year ago
Carl Pagan came up with a stupid argument. It's easy to disprove that a dragon is in a garage. Simply looking around in the garage is adequate because an invisible dragon is not a dragon. If a dragon is not observable in a garage, then it is non-existent.
YHWHisSovereign 1 year ago
@YHWHisSovereign
That is patently not the argument. The argument is that the inability to disprove something is not proof of the things existence.
If you can't understand that then there's no hope for you.
Illogical people are much more likely to be theists.
seansalvador1 1 year ago
Views such as these derive directly from a system of thought centered on materialism; within it, everything is defined and delimited with reference to materialism.
To interpret materialism in such a sense is in the final analysis strictly meaningless; it would be a superstitious notion involving the perversion of truth, and to regard it as scientific would, in fact, be *treason* to science.
1tabligh 1 year ago
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1tabligh 1 year ago
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pchobbynut 1 year ago