Let's also not forget the total difference between throwing a typical bomb or 16" shell at a 3.5 inch deck, and than taking a 16" shell from one of the Nagatos, equipping it with wooden fins, and then dropping it on top of the ship, at a steep angel. In battle, Nagato would've been clobbered by even the Arizona.
Even though 12' narrower at the beam and 13,000 tons lighter the Colorado class ships were still 10 knots slower the the Iowa class ships. The paper thin deck armor and slow propulsion brand this ship as a fail, this is a shame since it could have been a good answer to the concept of a battle cruiser.
@Zyworski You do realize the Colorados were laid down in 1919, correct? Also, paper thin decks? The Bismarck had 3.9 to 4.7 inches maximum, and that the Kongos were given 2.3 (upgraded later), correct? 3.5 inches is actually relatively well armored for any BB, and her fire control was outstanding. Though old, Colorado was an excellent war winner - Certainly capable of taking on anything Japanese.
@Tyco200 I like the layout of the Colorado and it is one of the better looking battleships, but the slow speed means it cannot be part of a carrier task force, and dooms it to more routine duties like shore bombardment, and escort.
The whole naval establishment was slow to realize the threat from gravity bombs, and plunging fire which explains why a lot of ships had thin deck armor. By the time the Iowa class came out they were up to a respectable 7.5 inches
@Zyworski Battlecruisers, themselves, are a failed concept. Thinly armored, Britain lost three in the battle of Jutland, and would/had lost plenty of others.
@Tyco200 Battle cruisers do just fine until they have to stand and fight against another heavy ship, and then the weakness of the armor comes back to haunt them. As long as there are no battleships around a battle cruiser is just as good as a battleship.
Three. Colorado, Maryland, West Virginia. They were however very similar to earlier Tennessee class, two ships, Tennesee, California, and previous again New Mexico class, three ships, New Mexico, Mississippi, Idaho. Colorado class mainly differed by having somewhat heavier armor and 8 X 16" guns instead of 12 X 14".
All these ships were modified in WW2. Most of them very much so. With much improved resistance to torpedos and mines, and vastly enhanced AA.
@Vermiliontea Colorado was the only one not modernized with the new AA and fire control systems. She also kept the lattice masts through the end of her career, so she's easy to spot in a picture.
Yeah, and I from West Virginia...Anyway, apparently, when the USS West Virginia sunk, a watertight compartment was holding like...3 men or something and they had a calendar, so when the ship was brought up, they discovered that the men survived nealy two months in the sunken ship. They died though...Poor fellows.
@NCOProductions Wow... West Virginia was an amazing warship, taking eight torpedo hits before nearly capsizing. It was her crew who saved the ship, by counter flooding. If it weren't for them? America would've had a fourth-permanent loss (USS Arizona, Oklahoma and the Utah were three.)
Let's also not forget the total difference between throwing a typical bomb or 16" shell at a 3.5 inch deck, and than taking a 16" shell from one of the Nagatos, equipping it with wooden fins, and then dropping it on top of the ship, at a steep angel. In battle, Nagato would've been clobbered by even the Arizona.
Tyco200 2 weeks ago
My dad served on the USS Colorado in WWII - He was on a 20mm.
strykerseven 3 months ago
BB-47 Washington
kuluku 7 months ago
My Dad was on the USS Colorado. In WWII. He was on the 3 Turt.
honeycomb46 11 months ago
Even though 12' narrower at the beam and 13,000 tons lighter the Colorado class ships were still 10 knots slower the the Iowa class ships. The paper thin deck armor and slow propulsion brand this ship as a fail, this is a shame since it could have been a good answer to the concept of a battle cruiser.
Zyworski 1 year ago
@Zyworski You do realize the Colorados were laid down in 1919, correct? Also, paper thin decks? The Bismarck had 3.9 to 4.7 inches maximum, and that the Kongos were given 2.3 (upgraded later), correct? 3.5 inches is actually relatively well armored for any BB, and her fire control was outstanding. Though old, Colorado was an excellent war winner - Certainly capable of taking on anything Japanese.
Tyco200 2 weeks ago
@Tyco200 I like the layout of the Colorado and it is one of the better looking battleships, but the slow speed means it cannot be part of a carrier task force, and dooms it to more routine duties like shore bombardment, and escort.
The whole naval establishment was slow to realize the threat from gravity bombs, and plunging fire which explains why a lot of ships had thin deck armor. By the time the Iowa class came out they were up to a respectable 7.5 inches
Zyworski 2 weeks ago
@Zyworski Battlecruisers, themselves, are a failed concept. Thinly armored, Britain lost three in the battle of Jutland, and would/had lost plenty of others.
Tyco200 2 weeks ago
@Tyco200 Battle cruisers do just fine until they have to stand and fight against another heavy ship, and then the weakness of the armor comes back to haunt them. As long as there are no battleships around a battle cruiser is just as good as a battleship.
Zyworski 2 weeks ago
how big is the red china navy today?
Rico8458 2 years ago
how many of these were made?
Rico8458 2 years ago
Three. Colorado, Maryland, West Virginia. They were however very similar to earlier Tennessee class, two ships, Tennesee, California, and previous again New Mexico class, three ships, New Mexico, Mississippi, Idaho. Colorado class mainly differed by having somewhat heavier armor and 8 X 16" guns instead of 12 X 14".
All these ships were modified in WW2. Most of them very much so. With much improved resistance to torpedos and mines, and vastly enhanced AA.
Vermiliontea 2 years ago
@Vermiliontea Colorado was the only one not modernized with the new AA and fire control systems. She also kept the lattice masts through the end of her career, so she's easy to spot in a picture.
randomrail 1 year ago
Yeah, and I from West Virginia...Anyway, apparently, when the USS West Virginia sunk, a watertight compartment was holding like...3 men or something and they had a calendar, so when the ship was brought up, they discovered that the men survived nealy two months in the sunken ship. They died though...Poor fellows.
NCOProductions 2 years ago 2
OMG that's awful :(
aribenzane 2 years ago
PWNED
TheZuikaku 2 years ago
@NCOProductions Wow... West Virginia was an amazing warship, taking eight torpedo hits before nearly capsizing. It was her crew who saved the ship, by counter flooding. If it weren't for them? America would've had a fourth-permanent loss (USS Arizona, Oklahoma and the Utah were three.)
Tyco200 2 weeks ago
very interesting
josh03000 2 years ago
nice klip';-)
tacticalbattledroid 2 years ago