Jonny Greenwood Max/MSP patch #2

[themennisspk]

If you think this is ''just noise'' then you've never understood music. just listened to it.

[Kimotobuddha]

はいはい。

[hoihiugufufy]

Jonny don't is like a boss,he is like a boss of the boss.

[chopperdave13]

Sometimes you just have to break stuff

[youwouldknow]

what a fucking boss

[Dieecai]

Joni greenwood idolo de muchos!

[fendermaxime]

this is shit

[Dieecai]

@fendermaxime qe?

[yose851]

that guitar sounds broken xDDDD

[heppareppana]

yeah but google for "Sick guitar noise from Johnny Greenwood video" and you can find similar discussion but then somebody posts a photo of their compu setup and its running ableton. But still, actively doing this stuff myself in Ableton, i would say this sounds exactly the as beat repeater. But then again you can probably do it in max, as the effect is only tempo synced audio stutters. But still, i would put my money on ableton...

[katenzcool]

All hail Jonny Greenwood! All hail Jonny Greenwood!

[urmumsbaps]

why the fuck are people arguing over what effect this is? IT SAYS MAX MSP PATCH IN THE VIDEO TITLE FFS

[Tazwegian]

Sounds like shit

[biscuitchannel]

wat song is it?

[heppareppana]

why would this be max msp? this could be Ableton's Beat Repeat rather...google

Awesome radiohead live show info" and result from offsetguitars, it shows picture their live show running ableton..

[Flipflip79]

@heppareppana I doubt its Ableton. Theres more Granular stuff going on in that patch than there would be in the Beat Repeat.

[halostereo]

@heppareppana Well, Johnny has said in interviews that he uses his own Max/MSP programs....

[Skalasky]

go to sleep

[steverzilly]

go to sleep

[gezshaper1]

its def max/msp. he loves it.

[nichtfinn]

I have an electro harmonix memory man with hazarai an I can do exactly the same sounds with it so I suggest that this isn`t done with max/msp. nevertheless I think Johnny is using max/msp though. the song "the gloaming" for example, reminds me on what you can do with max/msp.

[nepalnt21]

im looking into those... is it possible for you to post an example?

[nichtfinn]

yeah I´ll try to post a video. do you want an example of exactly this function or the whole memory man? cause it has also some other freaky features.

[nepalnt21]

awesome... i want to hear it do this because i think this is one of the coolest effects ive heard but sure id like to hear some other freaky stuff too.

thanks

[PabloMaffioli]

this is better than the first one

[th3cobb]

its the hold function on a boss dd-anything pedal, allowing you to record a short snippet beginning when you depress your foot, and ending when your foot releases, it then loops until you repeat the process, or quickly tap the pedal kill the buffer. the dd-6 and 7 def have that goin on, but methnks the boss dd-3 has had the capability to do what johnny's up to in this video. suppose it just takes ingenuity, intuition, and plenty of tinkering time to "misuse" a feature so musically.

[nichtfinn]

no it doesn`t work. I have a dd-7 and dd-3 and i tried it for a long time to make it sound just rarely similar to what johnny is doing the. the pedal just doesn`t react that fast. so it must be something different.

[whynottalklikeapirat]

johnny greenwood shreds ...

[beckylouise91]

does anyone have a similar patch to jonnys for max/MSP? ive got a stutter patch but its not as good as his, any help would be great, cheers

[radioivan18]

where can i get this program?? it is truth that you can get a similar effect with te wii controller?

[xmasonmars2]

what the hell is Max/MSP

[bzradiohead18]

correct me if im wrong but i belive its a program where u hook up your guitar to a computer and u can play back all these sounds and manipulate the guitars sound

[srpazoozoo]

its also a program where you can make your own music production software and your own sounds with matrixes and things like that, its 500$ though so you basically have to know what youre doing

[Luvinhas]

@xmasonmars2 Dude its a software.

[FrenchGuitarist]

Ce qui est intéressant dans ces solos dégantés, c'est le fait qu'il laisse le côté technique pour se concentrer sur la musique comme une expression pure et sans limite. Après, musicalement, par moment, c'est pas très harmonique, mais ça reste émouvant et perturbant à la fois.

[Anton974]

complétement agree,

[andjustinforall]

what the hell is actually triggering the glitches in max? has he got a foot pedal? does it respond to the pitch he's playing? preprogrammed sequencer?

[Oxenpar]

I have no fucking idea, the man is a genius.

[ssbsts1080]

@andjustinforall he has programmed max/MSP to randomly (thats why it differs extremely everytime) pick out a played phrase and then F*%& the hell out of it (pitchshift, loop, slice, whatever), had the patch once, lost it when my drive died, have been looking for it ever since! sadly still to no avail...

[TheBensont123]

@andjustinforall i do believe that he just simply moves the headstock. but that's my opinion.

[SuperiFox]

@andjustinforall Id love to know...

[husk21]

pff quel intérêt pour le morceau ? il en oublie le plus important : le rythme. Et pourtant j'adore radiohead ( j'ai commencé à écouter en 1994 à 11 ans donc je suis un pionner en France ) et pourtant là j'accroche pas ( désolé greenwood ).

Mon album préféré est kid A donc j'ai rien contre les passage electroniques lorsqu'il sont maîtrisés...

[GabouHendrix]

c'est justement ce que j'admire dans ces passages c'est qu'il maitrise cette espece de texture chaotique déjantée. On me donnerait le meme équipement et je serais incapable de faire quelque chose d'aussi expressif et incroyable.

[OxfordDuermo]

this man is crazy. i love these sounds to death. i will play electronic music at my funeral

[pedrowasabi]

can i play it?

[visioncreation1]

GLITCH core.

[redandblack666]

so.... how does jonny greenwood exactly make these sounds?

[optativ]

he sends the guitar signal to a glitch-program he probably wrote using max/msp software, which cuts it up and messes it around.

[TrickundTronic]

oh that's nice, i wanna learn this to

[xXrealsasukeXx]

perdo0n el koment de aki abajo no era para tiii..!!! radiohead es lo mejoor

[lefteror]

dunno what happened. the comment was for Timboh56 (next page)

[jhunterproject]

others don't understand this kind of different/genius guitar playing. that human really controls the guitar not the guitar controls the human. radiohead is really a good and one of the best musicians in the world.

[misterbuckethead]

i agree but you didn't have to post the same exact words on two different videos.

[jhunterproject]

so what.. its my freedom... youv said that you agree but maybe you dont understand... tsk tsk.. if you understand then dont comment.

[misterbuckethead]

i know it's your freedom, it's just a bit tiresome. Try leaving a more personalized comment. Youtube is public domain so i can't do anything about it, i'm just saying it's annoying to see the same exact comment on two different videos. Don't tell me to comment or not when you just told me i shouldn't tell you what to do, you imbecile.

[jhunterproject]

you annoyed? then don"t read... think what"s really anonoying... my comments or your name in this account... misterbuckethead...

[misterbuckethead]

um, your comments. Those are what's annoying.

You're annoying. You're also a hypocrite. You tell me not to tell you what to do and then tell me what to do.

And by the way you spelled Jimi Hendrix wrong on your profile. Retard. (go to movies)

[misterbuckethead]

is that what you defend your premise on? my username? can't you resort to normal reasoning? Can't you use the english language properly?

Of course i understand it. Radiohead is one of my favorite all time bands, i own all their albums and have seen them live at Lalapalooza. Don't lecture me about understanding guitar or music, I know more music than you ever will.

I don't see why you can't just accept the fact that you were annoying and move on, instead of being this moronic, redundant troll

[jhunterproject]

hahaha abno!  annoying your ass

[jhunterproject]

feeling mr. buckethead.... hahaha

you think you know everything about music?! so why you use buckethead??? as a real musician you have to make your own not to copy someone.... feeling buckethead abno!! hahahah

[misterbuckethead]

again we are brought back to you talking about my username. why? can't you use normal reasoning? Can't you defend yourself correctly? don't you have a real valid point?

Maybe if you had a better understanding of the English language you'd have a better time understanding how to argue with someone. Leave whatever reply you want, i'm not going to reply back.

[jhunterproject]

why?! ask yourself why!... MR.BUCKETHEAD! LOL

[danielhl22]

PENDEJOS

[xXrealsasukeXx]

no mames idiiota, iia kiiziieras tokarr noO komo jonny... poor qee sii esthas bn pendejhoO...!! kiiziieras tokar azi komo ellooz..!!! peroo iio qe tu niii me esfuuerzoo....!! esoo nunka va a pasaarr.........!!!!!!!! IDIOTA

[danielhl22]

si y a tu novia si le gusta como le doy sexo anal!!!!

mejor vete a ver caricaturas pinche morro naco!!!!

[DreadFugitiveMind]

mexicanos de mierda no saben ni hablar =D

[oeconomito]

eso no viene al caso...

[theta00]

its a simple buffer override

[Headtizado]

Felis dia jonny

[squareversesine]

What he achieves with that plugin isn't anything new. Listen to the solo on "Born Under Punches" by the Talking Heads (whom Radiohead's name comes from).

It was a live take run through a modular synth manipulated by a 2nd person in the studio.

As far as doing this yourself if you don't know Max MSP, look into a plugin called Beat Repeat.

[askl23]

So how exactly does he run his guitar through Max/MSP?

[ticklemeelmo45]

If max is like pd just have an audio input object in the patch, youl need an audio interface for your computer as well, to plug the guitar into.

[FreedomIsAJoke]

So im still confused on how he did it, i understand that he uses Max/MSP, but does he have some sort of midi thing, like a Roland GR-20? If someone could tell me this whole rig, it would be really rad!

[Timboh56]

run it into computer through audio interface, convert signal into midi, run the patch which is sounds like a metronome producing rythms at random and go to output. very easy to program

[NoNoseProduction]

right.

[lefteror]

actually, i think the patch is a "phraze" repeater. it locks on the input spontaneously and at random speeds to produce a glitch effect.

[nucleicoutfit]

He hits some cool notes there at the beginning.

[lagstronaut]

you can do it in supercollider yes -- GARAGEBAND? in REAL TIME? ....dont think so

[Killohertz]

ok, maybe with a little help of plugins like reaktor (or even some great freeware stuff)

[futbal31]

lets see you make better music then jonnys

[russianpickaxe]

I have had the privilege to use a max/msp patch and i can say its probably the most fun i have had while playing guitar.

[HyvelTjuven]

How does he make the guitar sound like that?

[pv6]

Max/MSP patch. Or, if he were Adrian Belew, delay pedals.

[eastwood1]

what is quite amusing is the fact most of the crowd probly think there is some kind of major technical fuck up going on with the speakers!

[plopsack]

Most of the crowd would have been Radiohead fans

[eastwood1]

True! the geeks would be watching it on youtube tho. lol

[Hold423]

Johnny Greenwood is a legend.

[BruisedEyeSockets]

@Hold423 No he's not. Jonny Greenwood, however, is.

[fatblckchick]

Hey check out my glitch monster video I made a glitch patch on max msp if anyone wants to get at it

[amnesiac456]

Holy..shit... Haha i love at :17 where it goes into a regular riff then Jonny just starts going batshit insane again. great blend of traditional guitar and originality

[LedGuitar222]

Greenwood reinvents guitar playing in the way tom morello wishes he could

[Davination]

I used to think Tom Morello was the only mad scientist of guitar...I am proven very wrong....very, very wrong. Jonny goes outside of killswitches and pedals, and wires his guitar through computer programming? How badass.

[elchimpo89]

however i would like to see jonny greenwood take on a hip hop/funk style guitar

[Davination]

Check out Jonny's solo stuff; Jonny Greenwood in the Controller. He does old school Jamaican stuff...truly he's got a brotha's soul inside that pasty boney body of his.

[moominking13]

thats not his solo album idiot, its a compilation which he compiled from Trojan Records' archives.

[5oulPower]

@LedGuitar222 err no actually they reinvented the guitar in vastly different ways, though both achieved it through a myriad of their own original effects. You can't compare them. I think its obvious by my name that I listen to a lot of Audioslave and RATM as well lol.

[shamwoww]

@LedGuitar222 you're comment is stupid. They're both legends. Tom Morello accomplishes everything he wants to on guitar and rage and radiohead make completely different music.

[lonewolf604]

@LedGuitar222 tom morello doesn't use software or midi

[JAMTHEMANX]

@lonewolf604 wheres the midi in this patch? is there something wrong with software and midi? Should he restrain himself to just analog pedals? it may not be good but its an attempt to be innovative, i guess thats what makes radiohead, radiohead.

[lonewolf604]

@JAMTHEMANX That's what I'm saying. Tom doesn't use those, but Jonny does

[rubbelly]

@lonewolf604 true, but then again he doesn't build his own effect pedals or create his own studio plugins. They're both amazing guitarists in their own rights.

[K1D4MN3S14C]

@LedGuitar222 Hey, give Tom credit. There both amazing guitarists (Jonny's definitely better, though)

[SomewhereNorthOf]

there are stutter patches in tutorials on max but Im sure he also threw in a random object or 2 just search stutter in the max msp help section

[gernautloops]

it's some sort of max stutter patch.

[theramshank]

Hey, anyone know the name of the patch he's using here? Or any info on where i can learn about the patch in particular? Thanks

[jackiechung101]

he probably made the patch himself. but if anyone does no i'm curious as well.

[hhighpass]

with a modular software called "max", built for musical research and others

[potwambo]

can someone explain exactly how he is creating these sounds?

[Davination]

His guitar is being manipulated by a modular software called 'Max'...or a 'Max/MSP-patch Sequencer'.

[soupinabox]

what is it run on? a computer or something

and whats that thing he uses in morning bell that samples then reverses with a touch screen?

[Davination]

Some effects he uses seem similar, but they're slightly different. Morning Bell is a Korg Kaoss Pad. And Max/MSP can run off a computer...but most people who use it have their own actual sequencer I believe.

[brigadier777]

its not on youtube, but if you can listen to this tune live at Earls court Jonny drops a fucking SAVAGE solo, better than the two on here anyhow. This still rocks tho

[horohorosrin]

Is there a site where I can watch the Earls Court version? *feels stupid*

[TheAbsolutionHowl]

Yeah, I'd actually really like to see/hear that too.

[danthegarboman1]

man i could play that shit on mario

[todomusika]

this is the best go to sleep solo on youtube

[FlyBird]

So he's just playing random notes while using the program?

[celebrityordeath]

yeah basically he's playing notes on the guitar and using the program to modify the output. the program essentially becomes a guitar pedal.

[josetex]

how he do that¿? :S

[Zack322]

nice

[kidamathias]

this ones way better than the other one, it has to be the best cause this one theres a tune to it sort of, and it sounds most like a pinball machine here

[TheStoicAgnostic]

jonny's the man. he's playing and using the guitar

[waltrann]

i'd say ABusing the guitar :)