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  • These two are completely off their tits. I'm all for being rebellious. It's alot easier to pretend you don't care when you have made it. Keith Levene is clearly cognisant of the fact that this could be his 15 minutes and tries to take the piss but do the interview....I love PIL but fuck em both. Tom should have set fire to them both and said "yes cunts! Being a rebel is where it's at" discuss....

  • I went a pil concert at royal court liverpool..early 80's one of the best concerts ever...

  • John just blew my mind. He had it right. Everything he just said was absolute truth. I love that about him. I've never heard anyone speak quite like him, then or now.

  • I love Jonnny and PIL, I think he had it right, he just found it hard to admit that Punk was superior to main stream rock, and his disdain towards the brainless, Lemmings who followed Rock & Roll over the cliff and into a fiery, abyss of Hell. Rock music was a Capitol Media front that controlled the minds of the stupid zombies who listened to it. Drugs, Sex, Partying, It sucked from Elvis to Zeppelin, to Kiss, to Van Hagar, to the metal to the nigger rap, It sucked and thank God it's dead.

  • funny thing is that john lydons knowledge of music is limited..... the guy cant play anything.... his guitarist cant even play a bar chord! he he he

  • @WanderleiSilva29 He plays violin, and a couple other things I think. Yeah his knowledge is limited but it doesnt matter really. I like it, others do too, and it's good music. :)

  • @ 3:11 he sounds like Sméagol

  • Lydon is doing his punk schtick but it's not working here. He's just coming off like a child. Like someone else said, why bother? Snyder treated him better than he deserved.

  • wow that guy next to rotten had a bloody awfull hairday,

    ROTTEN RULZ

  • I love Public Image Limited, I really do. Possibly my favorite band. John Lydon always seems to push the barriers and I respect him completely. In this case, the barriers of modern music. He may be a bit socially awkward, but I understand his points and I agree with them all. Tom Snyder seems kinda like a prick really. I don't know why, he just does.

  • PiL sucks ass

  • I still think that Lydon's approach on PIL was a tad... Over done so to say. PIL wasn't a company, but the only reason Lydon said that, is because he wanted to make sure no one could control him. In the Sex Pistols, Malcom McLarren pretty much controlled everything the Pistols did. Johnny was just a lead advocate in the movement. Then with that behind his belt he turned into PIL which was a bit egotistical in his manner to try and say piss off. I'm only really into PIL for the music. Easy said.

  • I never fail to laugh my arse off at the self-proclaimed "Punk police" who like to bash John Lydon for doing "I'm Celebrity..." and advertising Country Life butter. He probably did it to piss you lot off as much as anything else. That's the kind of thing he likes to do. You lot are more up your own arses than Lydon and Levene are here.

    And if it wasn't for the Butter adverts, PiL probably wouldn't be touring now. That was where the money went. Therefore I have no problem with it.

  • @PantheonLincoln he did the butter adverts so he could take pil on tour quite good thing take money of the man and take your band on tour i wish i could good on him

  • tom snyder to rotten..in the future can you see yourself doing adverts for butter or appearing on crap tv progs? sardonically.. dont be ridiculous, look any more stupid questions and we are going. TS ok back to pil then.

  • @shaftsbury94 In Rotten's defense the Pistols recorded one of the most influential albums of all time and made almost no money until the 90's. The man is not exactly selling out as much as surviving

  • "it's a company." ha!

  • Rotten looks bored as fuck.

  • It's actually quite genius to say that rock n roll is over. He's the only one I know of who's addressed that.

  • @ambientgreg hahahaha

  • waahh...why did i have to be born in this generation?

  • @phantomkitty1234 If you don't know what's going on now, you wouldn't have known what was going on then either.

  • interviewer is definitely not enjoying John Lydon lol

  • J & K are passionate about their vision, but just not able enough to fully articulate...struggling to reach the surface of articilate clarity...

  • Smoking on tv...dear jesus...

  • @trynow11725 so what

  • "I'm definitely into loud annoying music" haha

  • God, Keith looks reallllly messed up here.

  • I do love lydon, but he did come across as a bit of a surly teenager when he was young

  • guys wake up...the only true "Rebels" or "punks" r usually consider to be criminals or in jail..everything else is just bs..

  • Reminds me of Bob Dylan's approach to interviewers - cf. Bob Dylan: No Direction Home, PBS American Masters series, directed by Martin Scorcese and a halibut, it's rumored.

    But it's ponk, it's original, and it's theirs.

  • @Gimmal1492 It doesn't remind me of Bob Dylan interviews at all, because Bob never had an attitude unless an interviewer seemed deliberately rude or provocative. Tom Snyder was just lost, that's all.

  • @xXPinkGoddessXx Right thanks for clearing that up for me. Still reminds me of Bob Dylan.

  • This could be an anti-drug ad.

  • how much speed do you think John was on during this interveiw? Look at the eyes and the way he is breathing.... he's out his tits!

  • I love John Lydon's music, but his act is horrendous.

  • my god he's embarassing (john lydon)

  • You should read Jon Savage's England's Dreaming. It sheds a lot of light on all of this business.

  • I think this company concept was just ahead of its time. I mean, Internet, social networks, etc. is all they are talking about when they say there should be no difference between an artist on stage and the audience. Just wait another 5 years and we will all see it...

  • @sonicboyPT to my interpretation, the company concept - in the context of this interview by these blokes from PIL - it began as a complex artistic statement by Johnny, also in this interview. I'd like to say that the concept abstractly resembles a Dada readymade, like any of Duchamp's audience-destructible sculptures.

    That the interviewer may've been in for an agenda not shared by the interviewees, obviously, it didn't go well, but I believe they retained their creative integrity. Ergo, Win?

  • @sonicboyPT I totally agree.

  • no they want to have a corporation so they would not get riped off paying taxes pay themselves a salary

  • oh..how pretentious john."videos ..soundtracks ..film"..when what it is actually was what..MUSIC..shame music is seen as poor mans art.so where are the soundtracks?the film?the videos???bollocks

  • OMG, how full of shit can two guys get? Their attitude that "everybody is stupid except for us" is so pathetic. I do like Johnny Rotten though, don't get me wrong. He can be funny, interesting, and even insightful, but this it sheer BS!

  • @bareknuckles2u probably just talking shit to have fun.

  • @Alextheanarchist Yeah, maybe your right, bud. Still, the other guy (in the band)looks like a complete tool in this interview!

  • @bareknuckles2u who knows? And I sort of have to agree on your comment about Keith. He does look like a tool.

    Oh by the way, what's up with never getting flamed on the interwebs anymore? Couple vids I've commented on I expected to get flamed to death, everyone is so nice O_O

  • Johnny is a neat singer, i mean satellite, that was fucking nuts

  • I remember watching this thing happen when it was broadcast. I could not believe what I was seeing. What the heck was going on here? PIL went on to become my favorite "band". Nowadays, PIL is just a nostalgia act. A joke. Their current tour is laughable. They have become what they always most hated. John is irony impaired, for sure.

  • i love them<33333

  • Ok I see whats going on. Levene is most likely on meth, Lydon is his naive, history hating, corrupt self, and Snyder is just trying to interview the two. It is really funny how John Lydon interrupts, it is funny and annoying. Levene just looks stoned.

  • Johnny to be cool but he isnt hes a fucking asshole

  • Insanity at it's best!

  • I saw a video from the 70s where a posh man was saying that he thought punks were scum and he wished he could murder them, just because some working class boys wanted to sing against the class system. I think I know who the scum is.

  • @SuzLa1 Wow. So you hold a grudge THAT long? How stupid.

  • lydon what a dick,he contradicks every thing he ever says

  • i love john but in this video john is a weirdo

  • People can say what they want about John, but he definitely made this interview memorable. There really is no such thing as bad publicity, and John knew that, so why bother putting on an act for Leisure Suit Tommy?

  • Doo Dah Doo Dah Doo Dah Doo Dah Doo Dah.

  • lmfao "humor me!....""not for long >:l" "hahaha" he's loving his reactions lmfao

  • Johnny Lydon is trying far too hard to be a rebel, he just comes across as a prick. I met him a few years back and took him on a tour of Bath for some dutch TV shit... he was okay but I outgurned him on camera, I dont think he liked that. The Snyder Clash interview is much better and they come across as much cooler and real than this

  • @julesyjiveby naw doe blud, Rotten is like Lou Reed, is like Andy Warhol. They have a DIFFERENT WAY of looking at the world. He doesn't care what you or I or anybody else thinks about his work or his appearance or anything. He's not trying to look like a rebel he just IS.

  • this was Great, and i've Never heard Keith Levene speak before.

  • @pwntonious Trust me......Keith is more interesting to listen to than Lydon. Keith is incredibly intelligent. Lydon's ego gets in the way of his intelligence.

  • johnny rotten is a farce and he knows it. he's now old and fat and living comfortably in his apartment in marina del rey in los angeles basking in the glory of his "success". suck on it johnny - you fuck.

  • everyone gets old, moron

  • Why did they agree to be interviewed at all?

    If they (he, Johnny) wanted nothing to do with an interview like that, they should've just declined the offer.

    It appears that Levene and Snyder are trying to conduct an interview, but Lydon, acting like a spoiled child, is just sabotaging the whole thing.

    Second only to Yoko Ono, PiL is the most unpleasant "music" I've ever heard. If, as someone commented earlier, they were trying to destroy music, then BRAVO, job done.

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  • @Ninjasovs ?? are you fucking deaf ?? ninjas should have good hearing you faggot cunt

  • Johnny always had that way of leaving interviews speechless,right on,he put people in there places from the start.

  • history does not matter. thats good

  • i think snyder, being a generic tv presenter in the u.s., has enough patience to produce an interesting interview. i was surprised. the ideas put through, particularly by the levene, are really an ideal for what music could be, even today, when some believe that everything has been done.

  • There is no line of questioning that Lydon would ever have found acceptable

  • this fat yank is a twat.

  • When I see this shit and the asshole of Lydon, I know that The Ramones are a true band and consequent with their style, simple and honest.

  • none of that sentance made any sense.

  • thanks

  • ramones suck, boring rock n roll drivel

  • I feel for the guy sitting down next to Lydon, he has to defend and agree with the shit he is saying, he seems like a good lad next to a total asswipe. LYDON = NO TALENT

  • @theone456 fuk off

  • PIL does suck, i'll give you that, but as far as what they say, they're on the money.

  • its all bullshit, who cares, really, these shows are shit, right on johnny.

  • rock n roll hall of fame classifies you for you lol. Whern your dead they are your voice and are essentially you

  • tom snyder is the shit

  • lmao "excuse me for talking while you're interupting me" i really like this interview, this guy was prepared for johnny.

  • Lydon rules.

    He is right.

    If you don' t understand that, bugger off.

  • lydon's retarded, he doesnt even make sense, he doesnt understand wut rock n roll is and neither do u

  • @lkjhgfdsa123able

    Who made you the judge?

  • lol did u watch this video? john lydon is the most retarded sounding person ever, just a bunch of wannabe rebels.

  • @lkjhgfdsa123able

    You can' t stand honesty, can you?

  • hahaha, ur just like him i used to be a fan of all these guys when i was 15 or so, and now im coming back when im 18 and honestly this isnt punk or rebellion, hes trying way too hard, if u wanna hear punk listen to the stooges, mc5 velvet underground, the kinks first record, the rolling stones first record, lydons a puss

  • @lkjhgfdsa123able

    Thanks for the compliment.

  • ...wow

  • "well, unless we remember our yesterdays there will be no tomorrows" what a twat. keith actually tried to help tom out after that stupid remark : "*sigh* getting back to public image" "what?" haha

  • I hate when rock star try to act as if they are trying to do something really important for mankind, look at this trash! ppl fa smarter than these worms are far more humble.

  • your just some idiot with only enough brains to mastubate, go have fun animal.

  • I am not surprise at your reply at all, trash like you follow trash like the one on TV.

  • better to follow someone with a soul and brain than the "people" you follow who all look and sound the same cuz you are just one more of those people who cant think for themselves so go sell your soul some more.

  • @gardenofarcane Good comment, buddy. In fact, what you said would seem to reflect Johnny Rotten's ethos (given his contempt for rock stars, etc). Funny thing though, I don't hear Rotten often say anything about people who are actually brilliant, like medical researchers, etc.

  • The days when you could smoke in interveiws on the tv..

  • i just dont believe them, i think it's two guys trying to create a unique selling point so they can make money.

  • fuck why you don't leave that debate about the butter commercial??

    he needed the money

    he its going to use the money of that commercial for the reunion tour.

  • My personal opinion on the whole Lydon sellout thing: Punk (and post-punk, I guess) was simply doing whatever the hell you wanted to do. It isn't a set of rules, and when it becomes such (i.e. Don't Make A Commercial For A Large Company), then Punk really is dead.

  • P.I.L. had a brief creative spark that was all about trying to do something anti-rock 'n' roll & the chemistry between Lydon, Levene, Wobble & Atkins. it's great that this old clip is still attracting so much debate. They were obviously trying to do something worthwhile & make people think about the pop culture they consume.

  • john is so much better at this than keith

  • Keith looks like a ghost with a wig on.

  • @wabsnazsm I felt like a ghost with a wig m8...couldn't get a word in edgeways plus i had cotton mouth cos the BiG cameras freaked me out..we were straight from the airport to the NBC studios and got kicked off Warners as we left NBC then in the morning we were bak on Warners cos they're all knobs in this awful music BiZ..

    JKL_multidstringtheorist go to my channel

  • @wabsnazsm ˆ felt like a ghost with a wig on...I was a ghost with a wig on..Tripped out hitler or AnDy Warhol he wishes in heaven cos he watches this a lot...u kno that though...there again some of the old "orig" PiL members do things NOW_?

    JKL_ multidstringtheorist (on u2be)

  • I know how John thinks.

    I can't support the vast majority of "charities" because I know that my contribution will end up funding political groups and activities that I am strongly against. Most charities represent the idea of selflessness without accomplishing any real good, change but not progress, and often only serve as a way to make people feel good about themselves, without actually doing any good.

  • I always berated those Yanks!

  • John Lydon sells butter by pretending he's not selling butter. He always was a product that was sold as enlightenment like an anti-wrinkle cream

  • Your logic eliminates the very possibility of honest motivation. But It is about more than just motivation. John is trying to inspire you to be honest by making it look easy. It doesnt matter if he profits from his behavior, he would do it anyways because he wants you to imagine youself doing it.

    It is about being less trusting, more trustworthy, and thinking for yourself.

    It is like fighting for freedom, it never ends.

  • Tom takes the bait and Lydon just sets the hook and yanks it , funny ? I think so .

  • Keith Levene is back...check my channel ;)

  • The moment that Snyder didn't get what Johnny said about being a "company" was the beginning of a disastrous interview.

  • snyder isnt usually so daft.

  • god i wanna knock keith out everytime i see his face

  • I saw this when it aired. Believe me, Snyder didn't know what hit him.

  • I don't really understand why the interviewer is finding it so difficult. The answers that Lydon and Levene gave seem clear enough to me, so he's either pretending not to understand or he's thick as fucking pigshit. I'd go for the latter.

  • ay?? these two are so stupid, they want to be a company not a band but hey still stay as a band. they clearly don't know what they want and thought it would be more professional to be a company rather than a band.

  • They wanted to be a company because they wanted to have complete control.

    They dont want to support anything that they are against, so they dont want to have to suck up to any sponsors or worry about pollitical correctness. They just want to be as free as possible from any potential conflicts of interest so that they can have thier heart in what they are doing.

  • Hes pretending. Thats what they get paid for.

  • exactly hes a fuckin idiot just cuz he dont understand it doesnt mean the viewers dont. again, the interview isnt about him, its about PIL and the viewers. he doesnt realize that they were giving him gold in that interview, 30 years later and we're still talking about it.

  • OMG, I am so happy I lived through this and can see it with some time and distance.  What a little shit.

  • right now me and keith wanna dable with film sound tracks...(silence)... john smiles

  • "all they want is an image, something flash" Nothing changes

  • lydon is such a douche... and thats why we love him

  • Enjoyable interview. These guys are obviously on speed, or some sort of amphetamines.

  • More like stoned from some bad weed or heroin.

  • Your program is called tomorrow,there must be a reason behind that ....lydon and levene are taking the piss lol.

  • Ever wondered what happened to Keith Levene?

    I have just seen his new site...looks wicked and some new tunes coming from him too. If you liek PiL you will like his stuff. The REAL man behind Public IMage Ltd!

  • Oh f_k u, f_k all of u!

  • and sorry for rambling but i just feel that to contradict himself/sellout is exactly his nature as he will never accept any labeling that defines him/his music/public actions, so expect john lydon to be completely rediculous but appreciate that it is why he became so successful and is influential and unique from the beginning

  • john lydon is such a fucking sellout he says all this and now does butter commercials

  • i can understand why you say this. But he is obviously a man of contradictions and makes a point to say exactly the wrong thing/or last thing you would expect him to, this may have started as a thing he did on purpose but over the years he has naturally become the poster child in Anti-establishment and controversy. Unpredictable, funny, disturbing, shocking, hes part of a movement that defined an angry generation who were confused with thier identity and used pop culture as a constant scapegoat

  • i love at 1:47 when john just randomly smiles :)

  • sorry but ...fuck! How cool are these dudes? damn...

  • and it took a few years for Lydon to give us senile animals what we really wanted, a pistols reformation

  • Take a look at John Lydon at 3:11 I really cant believe that the young, intellegent nutcase that you see here, is the same person you see today. He looks and sounds amazing. A true original. Shame he doesn't really care too much about music these days.

  • I do believe this is my favorite youtube video of all time, especially at 1:50.

  • Look at todays morons! everyone is so stuck up on trying to live in the past! I don't follow any of these fashions! its silly! look at the movies!! how many re-makes are being done! are we living in a era where nobody can look forward!!

  • Rock n roll is so BAD now! I hate most of the British bands here in the uk! they are just pissing in the wind with old ideas! look at Coldplay! perfect example of a modern dinosaur band that follows the music biz rules to make lots opf money! and bands like that think their so cool and above everyone!

  • the problem is everythin has already been done.ther is nothing new to do except revive punk,real rock,real metal etc

  • Thats such pain :) but what annoys me now is how alot of the latest bands act like their something special! or unique when their just recyling stuff from the past!! its ok to play tribute towards what you love! but when you start thinking your the new originals when you are not :) thats very un-cool

  • its ok to be something tht has already been done but its wrong to think you revive it.music really never dies.commercially yes it does but the fans keep it alive.its ok to be punk but to think your the clash or the pistols is gay

  • Oh yeah! its like those people who claim punk is NOT dead! and its funny because local bands I know of who are part of this scene? are as they say, rich kids! well off! they blast a ton of money on hair styles and clothes! look more like Cyndi Lauper :) a band just came to mind :) towers of London! who claim they are the new Pistols and even said they were better in some lame interview?? what idiots they are! starting pointless fights and say its punk?

  • ye the towers r gay.they have stupid designer clothes and expensive haircuts.its about wearin what you want.not imitating what other people want.punk isnt dead.commercially it died with the pistols but ther has always been a scene and ther always will be

  • Tower of London fans are funny :) go onto one of their videos and say their crap! or punk is dead! and their fans get all over excited with sending threats and swearing! :) punk will never work in a commerical way again! they still mess with it though! avril girl? or Miley Cyrus! its a fashion there! the real punk is the bands that do what they want to do without worrying what others think! who dont care about fame being the no.1 goal

  • Have you got the metal box/2nd edition album? I love it. Its amazing how Pil was asked dumb questions from several interviewers! there was some major depth and creative direction in their music! but people had to keep bringing up the sex pistols thing! and boring simple questions

  • im not really into PIL tht much.I noticed ther is almost no interviews with them wer the pistols arent mentioned

  • Theres a full interview somewhere where John storms off! the interviewer is really bugging him early on! asking what he thinks of some trendy band! then mentions the pistols! and selling out! John makes it clear that he wants to talk about Pil! and the future! then that interviewer for some dumb reason? mentions the past again! and John clears off! its funny :)

  • No I think of it, there are several videos of Lydon walking away or spoling an interview.

  • marketing people will grab anyband that looks right, not who sound right. Once the record companies collapse there will be something good that comes along give it about 3 years

  • i love johns little games he plays in interviews..and the hatred and scorn in his eyes is almost scalding haha xD

  • You can see Lydon't interest switch off right at the point Snyder's mentions the Pistols. From that point on, Lydon and Levene become performance artists, with TS as their unwitting accomplice. Despite everything, kind of feel bad for Snyder, who was usually effective and conducting intelligent interviews; and his frustrated rant at the two during commercial was understandable.

  • P.S. At least I have friends instead of some extinct band.

    Dumbass.

  • Thxs for this dude!

  • I love how most people who interview them hate them.

  • They had no idea what they were doing.

  • Check out Johnny smiling at 1:50. Creepy!

  • Hey im british but what can i say about john lydon i think he is like middle class and southern (london) and trying to be radical , working class northern england artists have more soul in there music anyway and probably all levels

  • Middle class ... Bollocks!!!

  • As a person from southern England I have never wanted to strangle a youtube user more in my life than you.

  • Where has this been all my life? Ah hahahaaaaaa!

  • Its funny how Lydon says rock n roll is outdated in 1980.

  • What a bunch of boobs.

  • "What a bunch of boobs."

    Yes, Indeed you and your friends are.

  • Bwhaha...yeah right dude, you're the guy w/ your head up Sex Pistols arses!

    Got enough Pistols shit?

    You do know there's a whole other world of music out there right? Christ evolve douche.

  • I do have friends...I dont care what you think anyways bye bye, Kid :D

  • So why did you waste all that time posting stupid shit? I actually like P.I.L a lot but I just thought that particular interview was stupid. Even Lydon thought it was stupid.

  • Yeah the interveiw was stupid tbh mostly all of them are aint they?.

    But i like The Sex Pistols and some of P.I.L like........Rise. umm...and (this is not) a love song

  • I liked all of Lydon's projects, be it Sex Pistols to P.I.L. I also loved how Lydon took the piss from all his interviewers, he found a lot of things boring and stupid about the music industry.

  • Lol yeah......He like...dont like music but he is awsome at it! And Johnny Lydon....He dont care to be honest does he thats one of the best things about him not many people can do that

  • Quite true

    He is insightful.