i think Maurice Wilkins and Rosalind Franklin contributed to this discovery just about as much as Watson and Crick did, i mean dont get me wrong but Rosalind and Wilkins were assigned it at Kings when Watson and Crick were told to stop the study after they found false information, if it wasnt for Rosalinds X-Ray pictures and study of the double helix who knows how long it would of took Watson and Crick to find that out, they theorized that it was a triple helix or not a helix at all.
Not just important in solving "structures of this kind: but in solving any problem in general. If there is no one to play the devils advocate and question you at every step in your method then the likelihood that you will go astray very large. These two men were ballers in that they did not only solve the mystery of the double helix but did so in a way that is so wonderfully human that it makes me proud to be a member of this species.
Rosalind franklin, might have thought that DNA is not necessarily a genetic material but there is something other than this....... probably this led her to lag behind. Finally her thought became true!!!!!!!
Rosalind Franklin didn't get close to discovering the double helix of DNA. In fact, until near when these two published their findings, she outright denied the possibility of a helix shape. Rosalind took a picture that was crucial to the discovery of the structure of DNA by these two. She was credited for it many times, and even published an article on it and the same time as Crick, Watson and Wilkins. The reason she didn't win a Nobel was because they don't award them posthumously.
hi francis were going to publish the theory of relativity, well give alby a mention at the end. he never understood it anyway and hes got no fashion sense.
dont get me started jim, that marie woman was just the same wouldnt wear 4 inch heels or makeup its no wonder her hubby jumped under the horse.
I am a high school student from a Toronto secondary school. I am writing to ask if I may use small clips from this video (without audio) in a 5 minute documentary as a school project. Thank you!
I am not going to rant about gender inequality although franklin was mistreated by her male colleagues (that is irrelevant to the discovery of DNA's structure)
however, Wilkens took Franklin's data without her knowledge and collaborated with Watson and Crick, then they received the glory. True, they did complete the puzzle, however it comes right down to the fact franklin did not authorize this use of her data, nor did she have any knowledge of it even when she died. And that, is stealing.
You're wrong. Wilkins did not take Franklins data and collaborate with Crick and Watson. They got it from Max Perutz who received an MRC report from Franklin's boss Randall at Kings. Perutz has explained why he did this (rather uncomfortably ) even though it as not a confidential document and the Cambridge group were in an MRC Unit . In fact Wilkins was invited to Cambridge after the discovery. of course she had knowledge of it - her's was the very next paper in Nature.
I would like to know what is their work on the problem so real that everybody must exist in the univers to the LIFE can exist or be. And what are the news for this very big problem!!!
Don't get me wrong, these men were geniuses...but Rosalind Franklin and others contributed significantly...In fact, without a sneak peek at some of Rosalind's x-rays, things would have been different for at least a little while longer...
As acknowledged by both of them. But Franklin didn't get near to solving the structure herself, so why do you say this? What's the point?
Just seems like gender politics to me. Franklin is given plenty of credit in all sources I've seen, but wasn't part of the problem solving team. Yet people like you go on about it as if there was a huge unfairness involved.
All science rests on the efforts of many. I think W&C's intellectual acievement was superb, and deserves to be recognized.
@MOLBIOMAN well, in the paper where they first published the structure of DNA they do directly credit Rosalind Franklin and M. H. F. Wilkins with giving them knowledge of their unpublished results, so really it was a lot more collaborative than most people like to pretend it was.
@MOLBIOMAN Yeah thats true, but if you have heard interviews about rosalind franklin, other people said she was very closed doors and did not collaborate with other scientists. Maybe that was her downfall
what did LSD have to. do with the discovery?
grahambo7 1 month ago
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MrDakns 2 months ago
i think Maurice Wilkins and Rosalind Franklin contributed to this discovery just about as much as Watson and Crick did, i mean dont get me wrong but Rosalind and Wilkins were assigned it at Kings when Watson and Crick were told to stop the study after they found false information, if it wasnt for Rosalinds X-Ray pictures and study of the double helix who knows how long it would of took Watson and Crick to find that out, they theorized that it was a triple helix or not a helix at all.
self1995 2 months ago
@self1995 have you ever read "The double helix" by James Watson?
gargamaniaco 2 weeks ago
@self1995 stop being a hater crick and warson discovered it
lusiyuan1 14 hours ago
This is somewhat helpful for my history project
mimmystar2 2 months ago
Oswald Avery of Halifax, Nova Scotia, was the leader.
He should have gotten the Nobel Prize.
MrDakns 3 months ago
Not just important in solving "structures of this kind: but in solving any problem in general. If there is no one to play the devils advocate and question you at every step in your method then the likelihood that you will go astray very large. These two men were ballers in that they did not only solve the mystery of the double helix but did so in a way that is so wonderfully human that it makes me proud to be a member of this species.
natifyed15 5 months ago
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MrDakns 4 months ago
Crick, at least, also had chemical help. I animated a video metaphor of this I titled "Crick's Dream". It is here on YouTube.
jwsaul 7 months ago
Rosalind franklin, might have thought that DNA is not necessarily a genetic material but there is something other than this....... probably this led her to lag behind. Finally her thought became true!!!!!!!
annaiahramesh 8 months ago
Actually Avery, Franklin and Chargaff would have deserved the award much more than this two gamblers.
vaclavgogl 10 months ago 4
assholes, (along with maurice wilkins).....
fionaNESS 11 months ago
y a rosalin franklin no se le reconoció nada, manda huevos, quedarse con todo el merito estos dos fetos mal paridos.
natestcrat 1 year ago
Thanks for this post. Nursing my major. :)
IAMHOTuKNOWit 1 year ago
.. just wanted to say... I DONT GET ANY OF THIS!!!! I HAVE A REPORT DUE THE 17TH OF DECEMBER SOME1 HELP ME!!!!
CapCakeOfADeadGal 1 year ago
I would like to use this video in a small presentation to scientists in California but need the .mov file.
sullidesk 1 year ago
I'd like it has spanish subtitles!!! British english it´s no easy to me :(
dragondoghorse 1 year ago
Rosalind Franklin didn't get close to discovering the double helix of DNA. In fact, until near when these two published their findings, she outright denied the possibility of a helix shape. Rosalind took a picture that was crucial to the discovery of the structure of DNA by these two. She was credited for it many times, and even published an article on it and the same time as Crick, Watson and Wilkins. The reason she didn't win a Nobel was because they don't award them posthumously.
God.
JulianH1001 1 year ago
hi francis were going to publish the theory of relativity, well give alby a mention at the end. he never understood it anyway and hes got no fashion sense.
dont get me started jim, that marie woman was just the same wouldnt wear 4 inch heels or makeup its no wonder her hubby jumped under the horse.
drinks all round - weve just inverted gravity
ramron333 1 year ago
fancy another pint ,Crick by the way lets not give franklin any credid ok
ramron333 1 year ago
FUCK YOU WATSON. TOOK ALL THE CREDIT FROM ROSALIND FRANKLIN
samn100 1 year ago
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MrDakns 1 year ago
mr. arnold sucks wieners!!!!!
mdh287 2 years ago
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mdh287 2 years ago
Without Rosalind Franklin, these turkeys wouldn't of solved anything!
369thegoose1 2 years ago 3
Hello,
I am a high school student from a Toronto secondary school. I am writing to ask if I may use small clips from this video (without audio) in a 5 minute documentary as a school project. Thank you!
- Connie Zhao
jasonkwok1 2 years ago
I am not going to rant about gender inequality although franklin was mistreated by her male colleagues (that is irrelevant to the discovery of DNA's structure)
however, Wilkens took Franklin's data without her knowledge and collaborated with Watson and Crick, then they received the glory. True, they did complete the puzzle, however it comes right down to the fact franklin did not authorize this use of her data, nor did she have any knowledge of it even when she died. And that, is stealing.
nycchica15 2 years ago
You're wrong. Wilkins did not take Franklins data and collaborate with Crick and Watson. They got it from Max Perutz who received an MRC report from Franklin's boss Randall at Kings. Perutz has explained why he did this (rather uncomfortably ) even though it as not a confidential document and the Cambridge group were in an MRC Unit . In fact Wilkins was invited to Cambridge after the discovery. of course she had knowledge of it - her's was the very next paper in Nature.
ivornovello1952 2 years ago
Ok guys u solved a biggy, congrats...now , stop dramatizing it and move on with ur lives...
ai1888 2 years ago
Ok Einstein, we know what you have to say. Now stop commenting and move on with your pathetic little life..
demon6592 2 years ago
Learn grammar, and spelling dear...
shanefairhead 2 years ago
btw, great video. This was from a 1974 documentary I think. Any more of the same?
mcgigglish 2 years ago
I would like to know what is their work on the problem so real that everybody must exist in the univers to the LIFE can exist or be. And what are the news for this very big problem!!!
simouss2005 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong, these men were geniuses...but Rosalind Franklin and others contributed significantly...In fact, without a sneak peek at some of Rosalind's x-rays, things would have been different for at least a little while longer...
MOLBIOMAN 2 years ago 39
wow the first smart person on a youtube comment
findthe1path 2 years ago 12
A second that.
james1982x 2 years ago
@findthe1path I hear Wilkin's was nominated nobel prize as well...but he didn't do anything! Whatsup with that!?!
Kh0nlao 1 year ago
As acknowledged by both of them. But Franklin didn't get near to solving the structure herself, so why do you say this? What's the point?
Just seems like gender politics to me. Franklin is given plenty of credit in all sources I've seen, but wasn't part of the problem solving team. Yet people like you go on about it as if there was a huge unfairness involved.
All science rests on the efforts of many. I think W&C's intellectual acievement was superb, and deserves to be recognized.
mcgigglish 2 years ago
Plus they introduced the sense of urgency in biological research which has fuelled the biotech-revolution.
demon6592 2 years ago
@MOLBIOMAN Indeed. During all his life ,Crick always claimed about Rosalind tremendous effort and sight. But Watson not so much.
miguelmouta 1 year ago
@MOLBIOMAN well, in the paper where they first published the structure of DNA they do directly credit Rosalind Franklin and M. H. F. Wilkins with giving them knowledge of their unpublished results, so really it was a lot more collaborative than most people like to pretend it was.
TheWorksOf 1 year ago
@MOLBIOMAN Yeah thats true, but if you have heard interviews about rosalind franklin, other people said she was very closed doors and did not collaborate with other scientists. Maybe that was her downfall
slap2tap2 11 months ago
@MOLBIOMAN ...thats exactly what they said, basically. they said they were lucky, they r not stupid
sugarrothie 1 month ago
Using Franklin, Chargaff and Pauling's work may have helped...
sarcopticmangepoo 2 years ago
And whoever denied that?
demon6592 2 years ago