Canon EF 17-40mm with EOS 400D / XTi video review

[ksairoredjo1]

can you use it on a 600d?

[vidyamandya]

Can we take video shots on canon 400D. Pl reply

[Smalskin]

Is it heavy?

[11kevoo]

which one is better , EF-S 10-22mm or this lens ? (for taking wide angle pictures)

[cameralabs]

@11kevoo If you're using a body with an APS-C sensor, then every lens is effectively multiplied by 1.6x. That means the 17-40mm suddenly isn't very wide anymore, but the 10-22mm still is. So for ultra wide on a 'cropped' body, always go for the 10-22mm.

[jcc2150]

ok im confused. if the EF lens is equivalent to 17mmx1.6 then shouldn't it be more zoomed in than a EFS 18mm?

[jcc2150]

@jcc2150 wait nevermind saw the comment above :P

[cameralabs]

@jcc2150 ALL lenses are multipled by 1.6x on this and other Canon APS-C models, whether the lens is EF or EF-S. All of them! So 17mm is still a fraction wider than 18mm.

[jeffthecool1]

@jcc2150 Depends on the sensor size homie. lenses are measured in respect to a 35 mm sensor.

[THEHAMM3T]

WEATHER RESISTANT! WEATHER RESISTANT! I CANT BELIEVE YOU DID NOT MENTION THAT! THUMBS DOWN! BOOOOOOOO

[cameralabs]

@THEHAMM3T Did you read the review that goes with it at cameralabs . com? There I said "highly resistant to dust and moisture." These videos here are just short overviews - they are NOT my full reviews.

[M1sterHamilton]

Like the other guy said why does 17mm appear to be wider than 18mm if its "actually" 27mm?

[YourFaceIsVeryUgly]

@M1sterHamilton Because the 18mm is actually 28.8mm.

[GizmoBitz]

wait a minute....i thought the 400d has a 1.6x crop factor so if you put a 17-40mm on shouldn't it look like a 27-64mm? yet in this video the 17-40mm lens at 17mm looks wider than the 18-55mm lens at 18mm....I thought the L lens zoomed out all the way should look like a 27mm on the 18-55mm...

[cameralabs]

@GizmoBitz The crop factor of 1.6x applies to ALL lenses, whether they're EF or EF-S. So the 17 is wider than an 18.

[GizmoBitz]

@cameralabs so the 18-55mm lens and the 17-40mm lens are BOTH cropped by 1.6 on the 400d? hopefully i'll get the hang of the whole crop factor concept soon. -.-"

[333sajo]

can canon 400d capture the video pls replay

[MYTRB]

who gives the shit if its only f4. Use the flash or become a strobist tools. 17-40 is used for landscapes and shit so it's not like you gonna be using 2.8 or lower cause of DOF. Get it?

[acidburnhigh]

@MYTRB

AMEN !!!! Thats what i wanted to say ... who gives a damn about f/4 ... its an excellent landscape and architecture lens ... if you not able to hold it ... get a good flash or take your tripod ... thats it ... :-)

[Smalskin]

How does this stack up to a much cheaper wide angle prime lens like a Sigma 24mm 1.8? I can't choose because the sigma would be better quality and I use a lot of low light.

[acidburnhigh]

@Smalskin

why you want to compare a prime lens with a wide angle zoom ?!?

[jackie20ization]

what lens is the best for video?

[ThomPearsonProjects]

@jackie20ization completely depends on what you're doing. If you have the money, buy a few prime lenses. otherwise figure out what you need it for and then find the relating lens.

[JustEnjoiSkating]

which lens should i buy for landscape 17-40 or 17-85? is there a difference at 17mm's or its the same wide angle? and wouldn't be better to get the 17-85 even tho its not L-series because its cheap and adds another 45mm's?

[Buhzie15]

i want this lens so bad, but i hate that it's only f4.... any other good options? i dont want to get an ef-s lens, because i eventually want to upgrade from my 550D to a 5D Mk II....

any suggestions?

[editedbyfailure]

@Buhzie15 16-35 f/2.8 II

[6969755]

even a rebel xs

[editedbyfailure]

@Stepanskiy23 YES! FOR FUCKS SAKE IT WORKS ON EVERY FUCKING CANON CAMERA

[DanKPhotography]

@editedbyfailure lol

[101Tali]

can the canon make videos?

sorry im german.

[Lastchristmas21]

great rw :)

[mykeedawg]

just got mine! and it is awesome.. love it! thanks for the review gordon.

[CYNFELYN23]

Should I trade in my Canon 15-85mm IS lens and buy the Canon 17-40mm? I would really like an L lens without an extendible zoom.

Please help me out.

[255132a]

@CYNFELYN23 defenetly

[MVC7CVM]

btw, forgot to ask: as the apperture on this lens is f4 and you don't have image stabilizing, are you having trouble with camera shake?

[MVC7CVM]

Is it true that the apperture will become 5.6 when on a cropped frame? because i've read on a site that the apperture of the EF-S 17-55 f2.8 turns into f4 on cropped frame

is that true?? I hope not :(

[cameralabs]

@MVC7CVM No, the aperture stays the same on cropped frame - it's the focal length that's effectively increased.

[THEBOXISMINE]

Hi Gordon! Great Review!

Would the EF 17-40mm be a nice partner to my 70-200mm L or should I am for more millimeters?

[0zas]

in your opinion this canon 17-40 or new tokina 16-28 better choose?

[dobre0nony]

how can you be a photographer, your hands are very shaky...

[chenology]

Awesome reviews! you're very detail-oriented :)

I own a 7D so I'm considering between this and the 16-35 L v.1

but since neither are IS I'm also looking at the Tokina 16-50 2.8

any suggestions?

[ANTRASPS3]

why the 17mm is wider than the kit on 18mm ON THE 400D? where is the crop factor?

[Tommmz0r]

@ANTRASPS3 The focal length listed on EF-S lenses is as if you were to mount that lens on a 35mm body (Impossible though) i.e 17mm on a EF-S is NOT the same as 27.2mm on a EF lens (17 * 1.6), it is still 17mm on a EF mounted to a cropped body. If canon did produce a 17-40mm EF-S lens then you'd see the same thing as if you mounted the EF 17-40mm on your crop frame body. The crop factor is only relevant when both full size and cropped sensor bodies are involved.

[Tom44400]

Hi Gordon Do you have to use tripod every time you use this lens because no IS

OR it does take great pictures without IS? thank you

[ObeyBrandon]

would you recommend using this lens on people and everyday photography? I plan on using this for video recording also.

[RetributionCore]

Do you recommand this on 500D for landscape shot?

[atyl1972]

hi gordon, please help... i am after a wide angle lens for y canon 50d i was gonna go for the 17-40 l canon but i read your review and it would be a waste on a cropped sensor, so please can you now advise on any alternatives?

[cameralabs]

Yep, get the Canon 10-22mm, it's great! See my review at cameralabs . com... and feel free to ask any questions in the Canon section of the forum...

[atyl1972]

thanks gordon, people have also stated the sigma 10-20mm, what do you think of that lens?

[cameralabs]

Sorry, not tested it.

[boostingcav]

@cameralabs It would be nice if you could do a review on this (10-20mm) :)

[tedstar]

How about the tokina 11-16mm or 12-24mm? The 11-16mm is apparently as good as (or even better than) the canon 10-22mm according to most reviews.

[HelloNewYorkCity]

@tedstar for nikon, the tokina lens kills all the 3rd party brands, and even nikon. they have very low distortion, and it has VERY sharp images, and i recommend it. but for canon, the 10-22mm, if it existed for nikon, it would be better than the tokina.

ok if you don't wanna read all of that above, than read this:

the canon 10-22mm lens is better than the tokina lens, but if you do low light stuff, the extra 2/3rd stop or 1 1/3stop extra is worth it

[heymigz03]

can this be mounted with a 450d?

[cameralabs]

Yes, it will work on any Canon body.

[bobdude919]

hey stupid question but i cant find the video mode on my eos 400d, bit of a noob, only got it today but i cant find it anywhere

[rangerbok]

oops! there's no video option for the 400D.

[bonnyG]

can i use the video mode without the EF 17-40mm ? i only have the body and gonna get a EF 50mm f/1.8 , so can i still use the video mode with this lens ?

[tsinivla]

Great video! Thanks

[Olcayyyz]

i'm looking for a wideangle lens for some months now. i have a 450d. do you think  the 17-40 would be a good choice for me. i'd buy a fullframe maybe someday. it doenst really have to be ultrawide but still wide.

[cameralabs]

It's a great lens, but I'd only recommend it if you were definitely going full-frame, otherwise there's better choices for cropped bodies. Feel free to discuss this further on the cameralabs forums...

[SteU4IA]

Your videos are excellent. Quick question though.

You said there is better choices for cropped bodies. I am currently using a 400D with a 17-85mm lens and it is great walk around. However, better IQ would be preferred. Could you recommend a lens that triumphs the IQ of the 17-85mm but yet still be able to cover wide angles (IE. <18mm focal length). The 17-55mm is being considered and your video on that lens was great.

thanks

[cameralabs]

The Ef-S 10-22mm and Ef-S 17-55mm f2.8 are the best Canon wide angles for cropped bodies... feel free to discuss your options further in the Canon section of the cameralabs forum...

[vepino13]

if i'm on a budget, can i get a 10-20mm instead?

[LEXPIX]

Oh, and it is F 4.0 all the way through the zoom range along with better environmental seals. Not sure if he mentioned that.

[dusk1988]

thats L for lookxury

[l33thustla]

I bought the 40D with 17-85 IS I think it's a failure expensive non L serie lens!

It's heavy, it's build quality isn't that good as I feel it... and it's expensive with no hood?! and price tag is almost as 17-40 L! doo'h?!

well thanks Gordon, I've read the reviews and I think im gonna buy this 17-40 and I already have 70-200 L IS 2.8 I think it cover up all my needs!

[cameralabs]

Hi, make sure you read the Canon kit lens group test at cameralabs . com - it compares them...

[patrickbseattle]

I have def. thought about the future of DSLR's and in a few years perhaps all will be full frame type sensors like the 5d, that has me looking at EF lens more closely then EF-S.

[umbraexsanguis]

hey there, awesome reviews...

one thing:

im thinking of buying the 17-40mm to use it on my canon 40d. ive already got the 70-300mm IS lense and now fear that the missing IS will ruin my shots with the 17-40mm. Though that lense does not provide the stabilizer is it really worth buying it without being frustrated afterwards due to some blurry shots ?

[cameralabs]

Depends how slow a shutter speed you think you'll be using. You could of course alternatively go for the EF-S 17-85mm or EF-S 17-55mm models, both with IS... feel free to discuss this further on the cameralabs forums if you like...

[Altec0Lansing]

your video camera is very clear, what Video camera did u use?

[cameralabs]

It's a Sony HC96E...

[yenzlife]

Great review!! I have the eos 450D and am looking to get either the ef 17-40 and 16-35 for landscape and night photography, do you think the f/2.8 of the 16-35mm is a must landscape and night photography? or does the f/4 of the 17-40mm is enough for the landscape and night photography?

thanks alot!

[cameralabs]

Hi, we can discusas this in more detail in the Canon section of the cameralabs forums if you'd like to post it there...

[hsbhaskar]

Thanks Cameralabs for this Video. Useful

[TRGApostle]

very many thanks mate. great video

[hexedemical]

You re shinning man :)

[jun19020987]

Kit lens is ok in Close-up Pictures..

Suck at long range like landscape or Panorama

[martinbarrera1974]

awesome review, the guy is so knoledgeble about the product.

[echingong]

Thanks for this review! I researched for weeks before i came upon this video, all the time yearning for a comparison between the 17-40mm on a cropped body with the 18-55mm kit. THANK YOU!

[mungkey]

Awesome reviews. Love em all. Keep up the good work. You are the man.

[theone2225]

awesome job, i have a 400d so i love watching these reviews. Please keep them up!

[commieliberal]

hey! thats not the 400D from the review video!....IT SAYS XTi!!!!!

[cameralabs]

Yep, you caught me out! The camera in the video is actually an XTi becuase it was bought in the USA. But it is exactly the same as a 400D - it's only the label that's different.

[commieliberal]

why did you buy it in the US?

[cameralabs]

The price was better at the time...

[martinbarrera1974]

That's exactly right, XTi is the commercial name in US and 400D in the Europe.

Great camera by the way. I got one, I'm very happy, just don't buy the standard lens pleaseeeee ...

[craftycarper]

This lens is slightly better than the standard lens... It's £400!!!!!!!!! :O WTF!

[martinbarrera1974]

Craft, if you use one of the kit lens for a few month and then swicht to one of those deluxe lens you will regret big times to got the kit as sold, I recoment to every one buy just the body and upgrade the lens even just a little bit. Actually the lens of the STD kit doesn't reflect the quality of the camera itself.

[craftycarper]

My nievity was rather foolish

I now have canon ef-s 17-85mm f/4-5.6 is usm lens and it is brilliant... I am very disapointed with the kit len.. £550 rrp and I got it on ebay for £310 Result!

Thank you for your comment martin =] Happy Snapping

[zjumps33]

Blah my brain hurts, the mm's say that the EF-S 18-55mm should be wider thant he 17-40mm f/4. O well

[cameralabs]

The shorter the focal length, the wider the coverage, so 17mm is always wider than 18mm!

[jun19020987]

That's why we need this reviews...

I had this Camera too, I'm not sure what kind of lens i'm gonna get yet..

I would like to get a Telephoto Lens but i'm still reading different stuff about Lenses..

What would recommend? I want Utleast 200mm with Ultrasonic Drive..

[cameralabs]

Hi, I'd recommend checking out our Lens Guide at our sister site dslrtips . com as it explains everything you need to know about choosing a new lens! Then if you've any more Qs, head on over to the Cameralabs forums!

[cameralabs]

The 17-40mm captures a slightly wider field of view than the 18-55mm when both are zoomed-out on a cropped-frame body: an equivalent of 27mm compared to 29mm. As illustrated in the video and in the full review at the Cameralabs website, that extra 1mm does capture very slightly more. Not much more, but a little bit!

[zjumps33]

How is the 17-40 getting a wider field of view on a cropped sensor? 1.6 x 17 = 27mm at its wide end. That doesnt make any sense.

[cameralabs]

If you're interested in how this lens performs on a full-frame Canon DSLR, check out our second video showing the EF 17-40mm on a Canon EOS 5D! You can find it under the Cameralabs Channel page.