You do realize that countries like china and India are not fully developed nations so they are not held to the same standard. The issue is why are we not looking for other ways to produce energy why are we stuck on an archaic form of energy.
NEVER mind monitoring the oil lets get it out and sell it - Sell it Help Canada get RICH for a change we have a chance to be ahead of the world - - LETS DO IT- - - - Get a crew to start making 3 refinerys in Canada West Mid central and EAST theres lots of welders jus waiting for work pipers etc - - Come On Canada wake up - - - -
Fuck the U.S.... We should build our own refinaries and sell to buyers who are willing to pay more for it... such as China. I think it's about time we let go of "big brother's" hand and step into the world to be a main player.
The world can nolonger stop the TAR sand project becuase the US is involved now and wants its oil through a vast Keystone XL pipelines taht will send the oil directly to US refineries..Yes such operation will create jobs but then its going to hurt the planet big. What you will see then is the US and Canada coming back saying its safe for the pipelines and the TAR sands THE WORLD SHOULD'nt worry.Thats how POLITICIANS lie to the world. Its not safe it should be stopped.
immigrants heading to Canada should think again; are they heading to support and work in the Tar sand supported projects from Manufacturing companies to the Retail Industry. Canada is dirty not sweet anymore..by 2020 Alberta will receive 70billionUSD paid through taxes from the tar sands. Today a vast global corporations are heading to Alberta in the Oil sands to do some dirty work. The US has now invested in getting oil from Canada through a vast Keystone XL pipelines that will begin soon.
The world nations that has oil can spend more money on creating sustaining clean energy and spending on Re-tooling into sustainable producing energy can be the answer for the day. Its not only Canada alone that contributes to world's pollution but then theyr amongst the top ten polluters of the world. Spend more money on Re-tooling on sustainable energy resources and eventually end DRILLING of oil and extracting Oil from the ground thats what the world needs to do..
Agreed with Capefeather. And JonThm is an example of a little bit of (selective) knowledge being dangerous. Despite CO2 being a 'plant food' (subject to limitations on absorption):
bit. ly/rt6Jcx (remove space).
It's not the absolute percentage of CO2 that's most important, but total mass in the atmospheric column: bit. ly/fmneIU
But the issue here is EXPANDED exploitation of tar sands, and society giving tacit approval for further investment in the perpetuation of carbon-intensive energy.
Rex Murphy should just stop talking about climate change. When he talks about what he's good at, he is an intelligent, accomplished man. I'm sure he's attempted some research on this issue but I struggle to believe that he has become anywhere near scientifically literate. His normally effective commentary style backfires on him here and he's only embarrassing himself by continuing to downplay the issue. As the old adage goes, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
I live, work and grew up in the Oil Sands. It is not some environmental disaster. It is a responsible viable industry. I am proud to be Canadian and I am proud to supply the energy needs of Canada. I AM INFORMED. Unlike most people who have an opinion of the Oil Sands.
Rex, I usually agree with you, but if your argument is that the "other guys are worse than us so leave us alone", I find myself baffled from a man that usually argues with the utmost respect to logic and leaves the rhetoric for the Conservative Party of Canada.
@FreudsCigar So because you disagree with him he's some how illogical now? Your comment is Illogical. And to end the tar sands, what do you propose be done for the millions of people who will become unemployed in Canada? It's not so simple as turning it off, but people who don't know anything about the industry don't seem to see logic at all.
@weazz Whether the resource dries up or new innovations come along and make the need for oil disappear, you go right back to unemployment because you built your economy on one finite resource and ruined to environment. Don't talk about logic you'll embarrass yourself. The answer to your question - FIND A MORE INTELLIGENT WAY. Use your brain.
Sure he has a point with about the unfairness of the criticism. But so what? If we don't do anything, the planet will still fall. And how important will this point be then? And is Canada really going to follow China's lead on environmental policy? C'mon. We're Canadian. We say sorry when it's not even our fault. We do the right thing, even if it's detrimental to us. We should be the leaders in environmental issues.
@hungrytomato Do you drive? do you use electricity? do you heat your home? do you have an ipod/cellphone/portable device?
Unless you're generating your own solar power. You are using that very oil you're criticizing. Proving what Rex has said all along, is that it's easier to complain than it is to solve the issue. How about starting the change with your own habits and dependencies.
@weazz What if I smoke and I say smoking is bad for you? Does the fact that I smoke make the statement any less true? And by the way, I use public transportation, I am vegetarian, I buy local produce...I do what I can to reduce my footprint.
Plus you can't use the argument that you are part of the status quo so therefore you can't speak against the status quo. Let's say you are for income tax reform. Does that mean you should stop paying income tax?
@hungrytomato Actually yes, if you are part of the contributor to a system then yes you are a hypocrite if you speak out against it. Being a Vegetarian has no standing on this argument and is pointless information. Public Transportation still requires fossil fuels, even if some cities have hybrid wind power solutions, the majority of their fuel is diesel. And I certainly can use the status quo argument. If you're a contributor to the problem, you must make the change within.
@hungrytomato If you don't think it's a good argument then I can't help the fact that your ideology is flawed. Gandhi said it best, "Be the Change you want to see" if you can't live the lifestyle how can you expect others to do so. Speaking out against it is just as hypocritical as Al Gore.
@hungrytomato Asking for change is pointless. LIVE the change. BE the change. Asking people who won't listen is like walking into a wall hoping a door will appear. And this comment of yours doesn't answer my question. Current system or not, we are at least 50 years away from any viable solutions. Switching energy isn't the problem. How are you going to handle the massive amounts of unemployment that result in the energy shift?
@hungrytomato Not to mention the demand for plastic is a contributing factor for the demand for oil. All fuel and energy consumption aside. Synthetic products from petroleum are the major issue, but nobody ever seems to discuss the real issues, just the sensational ones. Come to me with viable arguments or solutions, until then you're an armchair warrior with nothing to contribute to the discussion.
@weazz How do you know how I live and what I do? You're assuming so much about how I live, flinging accusations and name calling with no basis whatsoever. And even if I am a hypocrite, so what? Does a hypocrite telling the truth make it any less true? By the way, the act of accusing somebody of hypocrisy is itself an act of hypocrisy, unless you've never been a hypocrite ever in you life.
But you know what, I respect you. You show passion, which is infinitely better than the rampant apathy
@weazz I agree with a lot of what you said and I say it all the time and try to live it myself. Be the change. Gandhi was the man.
I think we're on the same side. And if you want to talk about real issues as you say and have a real discussion, I'm game for that. But if you just want to throw accusations and name calling around, I have better things to do. We have enough problems to solve without silly bickering.
@hungrytomato I think we're on the same wavelength here. Agreed that name calling doesn't solve anything. I think that's why I like Rex Murphy. I don't always agree with his opinions, but I do appreciate his reporting on important issues.
wow, it seems easy to dismiss environmentalism if you don't actually address any of their points... wait... did he literally say Tutu should stay home? Man...
You do realize that countries like china and India are not fully developed nations so they are not held to the same standard. The issue is why are we not looking for other ways to produce energy why are we stuck on an archaic form of energy.
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NEVER mind monitoring the oil lets get it out and sell it - Sell it Help Canada get RICH for a change we have a chance to be ahead of the world - - LETS DO IT- - - - Get a crew to start making 3 refinerys in Canada West Mid central and EAST theres lots of welders jus waiting for work pipers etc - - Come On Canada wake up - - - -
StJamesapostle 1 month ago
the tar sands are the most harmful industrial project on earth, they pollute our air water and land
stopglobalwarming69 1 month ago 2
CBC - Chevron Broadcasting Corporation
Hyuiolosa 2 months ago
Fuck the U.S.... We should build our own refinaries and sell to buyers who are willing to pay more for it... such as China. I think it's about time we let go of "big brother's" hand and step into the world to be a main player.
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you tell'em Rex
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The world can nolonger stop the TAR sand project becuase the US is involved now and wants its oil through a vast Keystone XL pipelines taht will send the oil directly to US refineries..Yes such operation will create jobs but then its going to hurt the planet big. What you will see then is the US and Canada coming back saying its safe for the pipelines and the TAR sands THE WORLD SHOULD'nt worry.Thats how POLITICIANS lie to the world. Its not safe it should be stopped.
MrSiyincaba 3 months ago
immigrants heading to Canada should think again; are they heading to support and work in the Tar sand supported projects from Manufacturing companies to the Retail Industry. Canada is dirty not sweet anymore..by 2020 Alberta will receive 70billionUSD paid through taxes from the tar sands. Today a vast global corporations are heading to Alberta in the Oil sands to do some dirty work. The US has now invested in getting oil from Canada through a vast Keystone XL pipelines that will begin soon.
MrSiyincaba 3 months ago
The world nations that has oil can spend more money on creating sustaining clean energy and spending on Re-tooling into sustainable producing energy can be the answer for the day. Its not only Canada alone that contributes to world's pollution but then theyr amongst the top ten polluters of the world. Spend more money on Re-tooling on sustainable energy resources and eventually end DRILLING of oil and extracting Oil from the ground thats what the world needs to do..
MrSiyincaba 3 months ago
Agreed with Capefeather. And JonThm is an example of a little bit of (selective) knowledge being dangerous. Despite CO2 being a 'plant food' (subject to limitations on absorption):
bit. ly/rt6Jcx (remove space).
It's not the absolute percentage of CO2 that's most important, but total mass in the atmospheric column: bit. ly/fmneIU
But the issue here is EXPANDED exploitation of tar sands, and society giving tacit approval for further investment in the perpetuation of carbon-intensive energy.
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OregonStream 3 months ago
Rex Murphy should just stop talking about climate change. When he talks about what he's good at, he is an intelligent, accomplished man. I'm sure he's attempted some research on this issue but I struggle to believe that he has become anywhere near scientifically literate. His normally effective commentary style backfires on him here and he's only embarrassing himself by continuing to downplay the issue. As the old adage goes, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
I know he means well, but...
capefeather 3 months ago
I live, work and grew up in the Oil Sands. It is not some environmental disaster. It is a responsible viable industry. I am proud to be Canadian and I am proud to supply the energy needs of Canada. I AM INFORMED. Unlike most people who have an opinion of the Oil Sands.
wheats68 3 months ago
Carbon dioxide stimulates plant growth. Is has not risen as a percentage of the air for two centuries. So it obviously has no effect on the weather
JonThm 3 months ago
Say how did those campaigners get to Durban. I seriously doubt they get around on bicycles and sailboats. Long live the tar sands, long live Canada!
TheLittleE2000 3 months ago
Rex, I usually agree with you, but if your argument is that the "other guys are worse than us so leave us alone", I find myself baffled from a man that usually argues with the utmost respect to logic and leaves the rhetoric for the Conservative Party of Canada.
FreudsCigar 3 months ago
@FreudsCigar So because you disagree with him he's some how illogical now? Your comment is Illogical. And to end the tar sands, what do you propose be done for the millions of people who will become unemployed in Canada? It's not so simple as turning it off, but people who don't know anything about the industry don't seem to see logic at all.
weazz 3 months ago
@weazz Whether the resource dries up or new innovations come along and make the need for oil disappear, you go right back to unemployment because you built your economy on one finite resource and ruined to environment. Don't talk about logic you'll embarrass yourself. The answer to your question - FIND A MORE INTELLIGENT WAY. Use your brain.
72issues 3 months ago
@weazz Please read what I wrote again.
FreudsCigar 3 months ago
Sure he has a point with about the unfairness of the criticism. But so what? If we don't do anything, the planet will still fall. And how important will this point be then? And is Canada really going to follow China's lead on environmental policy? C'mon. We're Canadian. We say sorry when it's not even our fault. We do the right thing, even if it's detrimental to us. We should be the leaders in environmental issues.
hungrytomato 3 months ago
@hungrytomato Do you drive? do you use electricity? do you heat your home? do you have an ipod/cellphone/portable device?
Unless you're generating your own solar power. You are using that very oil you're criticizing. Proving what Rex has said all along, is that it's easier to complain than it is to solve the issue. How about starting the change with your own habits and dependencies.
weazz 3 months ago
@weazz Our habits and dependencies are no excuse to justify the means. Smarten up.
72issues 3 months ago
@weazz What if I smoke and I say smoking is bad for you? Does the fact that I smoke make the statement any less true? And by the way, I use public transportation, I am vegetarian, I buy local produce...I do what I can to reduce my footprint.
Plus you can't use the argument that you are part of the status quo so therefore you can't speak against the status quo. Let's say you are for income tax reform. Does that mean you should stop paying income tax?
hungrytomato 3 months ago
@hungrytomato Actually yes, if you are part of the contributor to a system then yes you are a hypocrite if you speak out against it. Being a Vegetarian has no standing on this argument and is pointless information. Public Transportation still requires fossil fuels, even if some cities have hybrid wind power solutions, the majority of their fuel is diesel. And I certainly can use the status quo argument. If you're a contributor to the problem, you must make the change within.
weazz 3 months ago
@hungrytomato If you don't think it's a good argument then I can't help the fact that your ideology is flawed. Gandhi said it best, "Be the Change you want to see" if you can't live the lifestyle how can you expect others to do so. Speaking out against it is just as hypocritical as Al Gore.
weazz 3 months ago
@weazz No, it's part of the current system, so we still live by it day to day, but we can still ask for change.
hungrytomato 3 months ago
@hungrytomato Asking for change is pointless. LIVE the change. BE the change. Asking people who won't listen is like walking into a wall hoping a door will appear. And this comment of yours doesn't answer my question. Current system or not, we are at least 50 years away from any viable solutions. Switching energy isn't the problem. How are you going to handle the massive amounts of unemployment that result in the energy shift?
weazz 3 months ago
@hungrytomato Not to mention the demand for plastic is a contributing factor for the demand for oil. All fuel and energy consumption aside. Synthetic products from petroleum are the major issue, but nobody ever seems to discuss the real issues, just the sensational ones. Come to me with viable arguments or solutions, until then you're an armchair warrior with nothing to contribute to the discussion.
weazz 3 months ago
@weazz How do you know how I live and what I do? You're assuming so much about how I live, flinging accusations and name calling with no basis whatsoever. And even if I am a hypocrite, so what? Does a hypocrite telling the truth make it any less true? By the way, the act of accusing somebody of hypocrisy is itself an act of hypocrisy, unless you've never been a hypocrite ever in you life.
But you know what, I respect you. You show passion, which is infinitely better than the rampant apathy
hungrytomato 3 months ago
@weazz I agree with a lot of what you said and I say it all the time and try to live it myself. Be the change. Gandhi was the man.
I think we're on the same side. And if you want to talk about real issues as you say and have a real discussion, I'm game for that. But if you just want to throw accusations and name calling around, I have better things to do. We have enough problems to solve without silly bickering.
hungrytomato 3 months ago
@hungrytomato I think we're on the same wavelength here. Agreed that name calling doesn't solve anything. I think that's why I like Rex Murphy. I don't always agree with his opinions, but I do appreciate his reporting on important issues.
weazz 2 months ago
Well Rex, I disagree with you on the oil sands, but I appreciate you calling out the environmental groups in there hypocrisy.
RomeoCo 3 months ago
wow, it seems easy to dismiss environmentalism if you don't actually address any of their points... wait... did he literally say Tutu should stay home? Man...
inimalPsych 3 months ago
Rex, I agree with you on this ...
Pleblian 3 months ago
Way off Rex, if the oil sands are a necessary evil, at the very least we should be charging more for the oil.
AtheistGlitch 3 months ago
Thank god someone still has some sense in this loony world.
interpellare 3 months ago