Although I fully respect their effort and performance, I totally disagree with the effect this HAS to have on their everything... They just become half-men, no matter what anybody says. And this is still an acceptable weight division. The heaviest weigh around 250 lbs or even more. I don't see any true benefit of female weightlifting/bodybuilding/powerlifting. I understand they love it, but I still find it about as strange as if a guy was seeking ways to give birth through body modification.
Men & women coevolved & had to be equally fit in order to survive. Women can be just as powerful as men. We don't have to change our bodies with surgery for this. Your analogy of men changing their bodies makes no sense in this context. The idea of women as the weaker sex is a fallacy brought about by men who fear our power and who have sought (usually successfully) to strip us any power to the point where women are not even allowed to show their faces in some societies.
@cse7enie That's incorrect in three ways. Firstly, women are shorter and lighter, therefore weaker. That hasn't been caused by men in any way. Secondly, it is completely logical that the person who gives birth and lactates and has an overall different perception of children etc. takes care of children while the other parent is out more, doing some heavier work, making him stronger. Thirdly, females HAVE to have higher body fat percentage to work properly, making them weaker.
@jakubkrcma Body fat doesn't make you weak ex. Sumo Wrestlers. This has nothing to do with kids or parenting. It has to do with the fact that women can be just as good athletes as men. We are just not given as many outlets to prove it as men. For us, college, Olympics are pretty much it, but that doesn't mean we aren't just as capable. Men can be men, but let women be women. Realize we are capable of the same things as men. Can most men lift 400lbs? Probably not, but Tatiana Kashirina can.
@cse7enie Men are on average taller and heavier, but even at the same body weight and height, a female body requires several percent more body fat (i.e. less body muscle) to operate properly, making even an "identical" (same weight/height) woman weaker. I love and respect women but trying to push in heavy sports simply makes them lose more good stuff than gain. The fact that you can physically do something does NOT mean you should do it or that it is beneficial.
@cse7enie For example, a less intelligent person (of any sex) can be JUST as valuable/useful as a more intelligent person, because the "stupider" person can do a different activity that is JUST as crucial within the context of everything. Just because women are and biologically should be weaker doesn't make them ANY less valuable or respectable, because they're simply optimized for different stuff. Different is NOT bad.
@jakubkrcma@jakubkrcma Your rationalizations still hide under the guise of ignorance and sexism. Keep saying we can't and of course you will be proven right. We are told everyday from birth that we can't and so we and everyone start to believe it. I've realized recently that I can. I fight Muay Thai & BJJ. Fighters can be 115lbs or 215. Doesn't matter, male or female. I do not want to be a man, but I get to beat up guys and girls alike and I am GOOD at it. It doesn't make me less of woman.
@cse7enie That's just incorrect. Of course there are some taller/heavier/stronger women than some shorter/lighter/weaker men, but what matters are the height/weight/strength ranges. Males are physically superior to females in sports. An average or the best woman is obviously less performing than an average or the best man. That's a simple fact of life and has NOTHING to do with sexism. Sexism would be to say that because women "suck" at sports (relatively), they are less valuable.
@cse7enie Look at the world records in basically every sport (weight stuff, track and field stuff...) and in 99+ % of cases, there is a pronounced difference between female and male performance. In fact, there are quite a few sports where a barely average sportsman can do more than even the single best sportswoman. There is nothing ignorant about that. It would be ignorant NOT to see this difference. SINCE men are physically superior, they should protect and support women. Pure logic
We don't need protection! You've hit a serious blind spot here, dude. It's not a zero sum game. There are women who can out perform men and vice versa. One is not better than the other. Men just has more opportunities than women. Men's opportunities are then used to tell women that they can't b/c women aren't even given the chance to try and when we go against the odds and excel we are judged unfairly and made out to be freaks. A strong woman should be valorized, not made fun of.
@cse7enie Men ARE better at sports than women. You just need to compare apples to apples. So best against best, average against average, people who've done something their entire lives against similarly experienced people, etc. You're CLEARLY ignoring reality and replacing it with a DREAM version, in which women can do what men can, while there are TONS of evidence they can't. In a thousand years, through special focus on female performance ONLY (letting male performance stay), MAYBE.
@cse7enie You must also understand that fighting is a very complex thing, where many aspects play a major role. For example, a female brain, due to being marginally smaller/lighter is also marginally FASTER (just like a smaller CPU with the same structure) and the brain-hand, brain-foot etc. distances are also shorter, i.e. faster etc. etc. Of course I am talking about an AVERAGE man vs AVERAGE woman.
@cse7enie So fighting is not a typical example of PURELY sports (body) performance, it is A LOT about the mind (or non-muscle stuff in general). A similar example would be racing, team sports... On the other hand, weight stuff, track and field etc. are MUCH more in the "almost purely physical" performance territory. And THERE, men are IN A DIFFERENT LEAGUE. They still beat their female opponents in other stuff, but the difference is not THAT huge and frequent.
@cse7enie You are right that bad people make women believe they can't achieve ANYTHING (so they can exploit women more). But believing that women can achieve the same peak performance as men can is just plain ignorant - there is NO data that would support that theory. I would have NO problem with women performing precisely like men, but it's just NOT realistic (today). I am NOT a sexist, I am a realist. I respect a 10.49 s woman JUST like a 9.58 man (100 meters)!!!
@jakubkrcma You're right there is no data to support this. That data does not exist. You are insulting female athletes by assuming that we can't achieve the same results on a level playing field, which we have never been given. It is people like you who continue to oppress women by supporting biased thought and archaic theories. Like I pointed out before, Tatiana Kashirina can lift 400lbs. With proper support, many women could achieve similar greatness. End ignorance. Stop talking.
@cse7enie How have women not been given a level playing field? Maybe in some distant past or in some less civilized countries. And how can you be SO biased about lifting peformance??? The only PRECISELY common weight division for men and women is 69 kg. In that division, the best performances for men and women are (snatch-C&J-total, all in kg): W 128-158-286, M 165-197-357. The ABSOLUTELY best lifts (regardless to division): W 148-187-328, M 214-263-472. MASSIVE DIFFERENCE!!!
@cse7enie To make it even more OBVIOUS, the BEST female lifts done by ~250 lb women (326 lb snatch, 412 lb C&J, 723 lb total) are matched or beaten by men weighing just approximately 132 - 143 lb!!! The male world records in the 69 kg (152 lb) division are already substantially better than the best ANY woman has done so far!
@cse7enie You are a feminist analogy of a person who will say that white sprinters can run just as fast as black sprinters and that people who say something else are automatically racist. Yet, of the 500 fastest ever 100 meter sprints, around 490 are done by black guys and the single fastest white time ever is 9.92 (done by the ONLY white sub-10 s), abysmally worse than 9.58 for the CLEARLY SUPERIOR black sprinting dudes (at longer distances, the situation may be different).
@cse7enie In other words, you try to blame men for being men and to pretend that women are essentially men with a couple of subtle differences, which is TOTALLY incorrect. Women and men are completely different and have to be respected as such, they're just genetically compatible/complementary. A child, for example, needs a mother and a father, not two "mothers" or two "fathers" as some gay/lesbian people try to push. I disagree with any discrimination of women, of course.
@cse7enie Women have an identical VALUE as men, but are completely different in every way. This society is making a huge error by trying to push men and women into the same category in many ways, creating a wannabe single "unisex gender". This makes women lose female stuff and men lose male stuff. So women should be under less pressure to perform in many ways and men should be under more pressure to perform in order to play the natural complementary (protective...) role for women well.
@cse7enie Many people are SO brainwashed by the education system and media which pretend that equal means identical that they will find my statements obsolete. However, I am 100% sure that what I am saying here is a more realistic view of the male/female topic than the official push for "male women" and "female men".
THIS proves to all the women out there that lifting weight will make you STRONG but NOT Bulky .. Don't believe the lies the fitness industry is tell you!
@pugghead Unfortunately, in a lot of womens eyes, these athletes ARE "too bulky". I think they are beautiful of course, but according to some of the fashion mags, it seems if you don't look like a ten year old boy with an active drug habit, you are too heavy. "Heroin sheik" lol
@bigislander72 agree.. funny thing is alot of those women who say these athletes are too bulky actually weigh much more than them... These female athletes are 58kg!!! that's TINY!!
Although I fully respect their effort and performance, I totally disagree with the effect this HAS to have on their everything... They just become half-men, no matter what anybody says. And this is still an acceptable weight division. The heaviest weigh around 250 lbs or even more. I don't see any true benefit of female weightlifting/bodybuilding/powerlifting. I understand they love it, but I still find it about as strange as if a guy was seeking ways to give birth through body modification.
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
Men & women coevolved & had to be equally fit in order to survive. Women can be just as powerful as men. We don't have to change our bodies with surgery for this. Your analogy of men changing their bodies makes no sense in this context. The idea of women as the weaker sex is a fallacy brought about by men who fear our power and who have sought (usually successfully) to strip us any power to the point where women are not even allowed to show their faces in some societies.
cse7enie 1 month ago
@cse7enie That's incorrect in three ways. Firstly, women are shorter and lighter, therefore weaker. That hasn't been caused by men in any way. Secondly, it is completely logical that the person who gives birth and lactates and has an overall different perception of children etc. takes care of children while the other parent is out more, doing some heavier work, making him stronger. Thirdly, females HAVE to have higher body fat percentage to work properly, making them weaker.
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
@jakubkrcma Body fat doesn't make you weak ex. Sumo Wrestlers. This has nothing to do with kids or parenting. It has to do with the fact that women can be just as good athletes as men. We are just not given as many outlets to prove it as men. For us, college, Olympics are pretty much it, but that doesn't mean we aren't just as capable. Men can be men, but let women be women. Realize we are capable of the same things as men. Can most men lift 400lbs? Probably not, but Tatiana Kashirina can.
cse7enie 1 month ago
@cse7enie Men are on average taller and heavier, but even at the same body weight and height, a female body requires several percent more body fat (i.e. less body muscle) to operate properly, making even an "identical" (same weight/height) woman weaker. I love and respect women but trying to push in heavy sports simply makes them lose more good stuff than gain. The fact that you can physically do something does NOT mean you should do it or that it is beneficial.
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
@cse7enie For example, a less intelligent person (of any sex) can be JUST as valuable/useful as a more intelligent person, because the "stupider" person can do a different activity that is JUST as crucial within the context of everything. Just because women are and biologically should be weaker doesn't make them ANY less valuable or respectable, because they're simply optimized for different stuff. Different is NOT bad.
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
@jakubkrcma @jakubkrcma Your rationalizations still hide under the guise of ignorance and sexism. Keep saying we can't and of course you will be proven right. We are told everyday from birth that we can't and so we and everyone start to believe it. I've realized recently that I can. I fight Muay Thai & BJJ. Fighters can be 115lbs or 215. Doesn't matter, male or female. I do not want to be a man, but I get to beat up guys and girls alike and I am GOOD at it. It doesn't make me less of woman.
cse7enie 1 month ago
@cse7enie That's just incorrect. Of course there are some taller/heavier/stronger women than some shorter/lighter/weaker men, but what matters are the height/weight/strength ranges. Males are physically superior to females in sports. An average or the best woman is obviously less performing than an average or the best man. That's a simple fact of life and has NOTHING to do with sexism. Sexism would be to say that because women "suck" at sports (relatively), they are less valuable.
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
@cse7enie Look at the world records in basically every sport (weight stuff, track and field stuff...) and in 99+ % of cases, there is a pronounced difference between female and male performance. In fact, there are quite a few sports where a barely average sportsman can do more than even the single best sportswoman. There is nothing ignorant about that. It would be ignorant NOT to see this difference. SINCE men are physically superior, they should protect and support women. Pure logic
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
@cse7enie AND if it was the other way around, I would JUST as well expect and require women to protect men!!!!!!!
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
We don't need protection! You've hit a serious blind spot here, dude. It's not a zero sum game. There are women who can out perform men and vice versa. One is not better than the other. Men just has more opportunities than women. Men's opportunities are then used to tell women that they can't b/c women aren't even given the chance to try and when we go against the odds and excel we are judged unfairly and made out to be freaks. A strong woman should be valorized, not made fun of.
cse7enie 1 month ago
@cse7enie Men ARE better at sports than women. You just need to compare apples to apples. So best against best, average against average, people who've done something their entire lives against similarly experienced people, etc. You're CLEARLY ignoring reality and replacing it with a DREAM version, in which women can do what men can, while there are TONS of evidence they can't. In a thousand years, through special focus on female performance ONLY (letting male performance stay), MAYBE.
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
@cse7enie Actually, you are insulting female sportsmen by suggesting they're not trying hard enough, because they "fail" to match or surpass men!
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
@cse7enie You must also understand that fighting is a very complex thing, where many aspects play a major role. For example, a female brain, due to being marginally smaller/lighter is also marginally FASTER (just like a smaller CPU with the same structure) and the brain-hand, brain-foot etc. distances are also shorter, i.e. faster etc. etc. Of course I am talking about an AVERAGE man vs AVERAGE woman.
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
@cse7enie So fighting is not a typical example of PURELY sports (body) performance, it is A LOT about the mind (or non-muscle stuff in general). A similar example would be racing, team sports... On the other hand, weight stuff, track and field etc. are MUCH more in the "almost purely physical" performance territory. And THERE, men are IN A DIFFERENT LEAGUE. They still beat their female opponents in other stuff, but the difference is not THAT huge and frequent.
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
@cse7enie You are right that bad people make women believe they can't achieve ANYTHING (so they can exploit women more). But believing that women can achieve the same peak performance as men can is just plain ignorant - there is NO data that would support that theory. I would have NO problem with women performing precisely like men, but it's just NOT realistic (today). I am NOT a sexist, I am a realist. I respect a 10.49 s woman JUST like a 9.58 man (100 meters)!!!
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
@jakubkrcma You're right there is no data to support this. That data does not exist. You are insulting female athletes by assuming that we can't achieve the same results on a level playing field, which we have never been given. It is people like you who continue to oppress women by supporting biased thought and archaic theories. Like I pointed out before, Tatiana Kashirina can lift 400lbs. With proper support, many women could achieve similar greatness. End ignorance. Stop talking.
cse7enie 1 month ago
@cse7enie How have women not been given a level playing field? Maybe in some distant past or in some less civilized countries. And how can you be SO biased about lifting peformance??? The only PRECISELY common weight division for men and women is 69 kg. In that division, the best performances for men and women are (snatch-C&J-total, all in kg): W 128-158-286, M 165-197-357. The ABSOLUTELY best lifts (regardless to division): W 148-187-328, M 214-263-472. MASSIVE DIFFERENCE!!!
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
@cse7enie To make it even more OBVIOUS, the BEST female lifts done by ~250 lb women (326 lb snatch, 412 lb C&J, 723 lb total) are matched or beaten by men weighing just approximately 132 - 143 lb!!! The male world records in the 69 kg (152 lb) division are already substantially better than the best ANY woman has done so far!
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
@cse7enie BTW: I like that you mean what you're saying. I just disagree. You DO have my respect.
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
@cse7enie You are a feminist analogy of a person who will say that white sprinters can run just as fast as black sprinters and that people who say something else are automatically racist. Yet, of the 500 fastest ever 100 meter sprints, around 490 are done by black guys and the single fastest white time ever is 9.92 (done by the ONLY white sub-10 s), abysmally worse than 9.58 for the CLEARLY SUPERIOR black sprinting dudes (at longer distances, the situation may be different).
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
@cse7enie In other words, you try to blame men for being men and to pretend that women are essentially men with a couple of subtle differences, which is TOTALLY incorrect. Women and men are completely different and have to be respected as such, they're just genetically compatible/complementary. A child, for example, needs a mother and a father, not two "mothers" or two "fathers" as some gay/lesbian people try to push. I disagree with any discrimination of women, of course.
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
@cse7enie Women have an identical VALUE as men, but are completely different in every way. This society is making a huge error by trying to push men and women into the same category in many ways, creating a wannabe single "unisex gender". This makes women lose female stuff and men lose male stuff. So women should be under less pressure to perform in many ways and men should be under more pressure to perform in order to play the natural complementary (protective...) role for women well.
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
@cse7enie Many people are SO brainwashed by the education system and media which pretend that equal means identical that they will find my statements obsolete. However, I am 100% sure that what I am saying here is a more realistic view of the male/female topic than the official push for "male women" and "female men".
jakubkrcma 1 month ago
What a nice snatch !
triton2525 2 months ago
Ladies,i am suprized...seems your very stronger than I thought.
wayneroberts100 2 months ago
Good examples of Oly Lifting. Light weight ladies ;)
CaptainSpork7 2 months ago
eso mi quisiaaaa !!!!!! 3er lugar mundial univecitario
busqueda8887 6 months ago
awesome. thanks for posting.
tw881000 8 months ago
THIS proves to all the women out there that lifting weight will make you STRONG but NOT Bulky .. Don't believe the lies the fitness industry is tell you!
pugghead 9 months ago
@pugghead Unfortunately, in a lot of womens eyes, these athletes ARE "too bulky". I think they are beautiful of course, but according to some of the fashion mags, it seems if you don't look like a ten year old boy with an active drug habit, you are too heavy. "Heroin sheik" lol
bigislander72 8 months ago in playlist Olympic Lifting
@bigislander72 agree.. funny thing is alot of those women who say these athletes are too bulky actually weigh much more than them... These female athletes are 58kg!!! that's TINY!!
pugghead 8 months ago
Thx Cracky!!
gloverj21 9 months ago
Thx Cracky!!
gloverj21 9 months ago
Cracky- your vids are the best! - Thank you!
selta77 11 months ago
your vids freakin own bro
ibtarnine 1 year ago
nice :3
batmannu 1 year ago
@batmannu
:3
crackyflipside 1 year ago
Thanks for putting this up. I showed it to my girlfriend, in an attempt to motivate her. I'm not sure how successful I was.
nova68nova 1 year ago
@nova68nova
rofl
jasonjinx 1 year ago