Something i'd like to share about the first and second coming of the Messiah, that jews non-believers in Christ challenge us to show them. Here they are:
@humbleman9 Second comming as the Lion King and ruler of everything above and under Heavens:
"In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a SON OF MAN, coming? with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence.? Daniel 7:13
OH people of the Wrong book, be prudent, because you shall see the SON OF MAN with great power.
The desert tribes will bow before him and his enemies will lick the dust (Psalms 72)
If the Body is the Son of God, then body lies because only God can paid the infinite cost for our sins. Jesus said I am. I am in Judaism is name of God. I am in Hebrew meaning self existing. The Body was created per this video, so either Jesus lied or video is false
In Ephesians 4:4 it clearly states that there is " One Spirit (whom is God Jn.4:24) and One BODY and again in James.2:26 " the Body without the Spirit is dead...". Jesus (Body as man 1Tim.2:9) is the image (Physical) of the invisible God Whom is Spirit...Col1:15...The Son is the physical Body generated by the Spirit of God for Himself...Mat.1:18+20; Lk.1:35....
@neronei Well word, but the Trinity is true. The trinity has three names for God in Hebrew is the first verse. The Shema has three parts. The Jewish people pray with three fingers making the Hebrew character shin. There is an “us” in Genesis 1:26 and Isaiah 6:8. The Hebrew word for Gods which is Elohim is used 2000+ times vs. the Hebrew word for God is used 200 +. The Passover meal has three crackers which are baked together. The 2nd principle of Judaism is a God of unity.
None of these things are proof of the One and Only God being THREE (NUMBER)...You are just putting yourself to shame... None of these proves that there are Three distict and separate persons whom are and therefore are three distinct and sperate gods in the old testament ....Three crackers means three persons...? I don't think so. As always the trinity has to find such feeble and ridiculous ways of proof Shame on you...I realy feel sorry for you.
@neronei Thank you for the postive words, but I am trying not to offed you. The Bible has many three in it, so the Bible trend to plurality in the God. God said us in Gensis 1:26 and Isaiah 6:8. Jesus said in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost in Matthew 28.19. Since us is plural and Jesus said Matthew 28:19, then the name of God and how God is defined are two topics. Are you ignoring God word to support a thelogoy which implies Jesus words are false?
@neronei How about Jews for Jesus? A group of Jewish Hebrew scholars who covert to Christianity and they believe the Trinity. Search for any Messianic Group and see what they believe. I will send you a video from their site.
@neronei Why Oneness is not true? Jesus said in Matthew 27 45 From noon until three in the afternoon darkness came over all the land. 46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[c] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[d]
Facts three in afternoon and 3 crosses. The problem without the Trinity, how can any theology be true? Jesus has to be God to pay for our with a God who left him.
@neronei Why Oneness is not true? Jesus said in Matthew 27 45 From noon until three in the afternoon darkness came over all the land. 46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[c] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[d]
Facts three in afternoon and 3 crosses. The problem without the Trinity, how can any theology be true? Jesus has to be God to pay for our with a God who left him.
@neronei Why Oneness is not true? Jesus said in Matthew 27 45 From noon until three in the afternoon darkness came over all the land. 46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[c] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[d]
Facts three in afternoon and 3 crosses. The problem without the Trinity, how can any theology be true? Jesus has to be God to pay for our with a God who left him.
RECUERDA BN: YESHUA ES EL HIJO QUIEN ES UNO CON EL PADRE PERO NO ES EL PADRE EL ES NUESTRO HERMANO MAYOR, NO TE CONFUNDAS....... YO AMO A MI HERMANO MAYOR YESHUA. ADONAI TE BENDIGA HERMANO
RECUERDA BN: YESHUA ES EL HIJO QUIEN ES UNO CON EL PADRE PERO NO ES EL PADRE EL ES NUESTRO HERMANO MAYOR, NO TE CONFUNDAS....... YO AMO A MI HERMANO MAYOR YESHUA. ADONAI TE BENDIGA HERMANO
"You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am. If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet; you also ought to wash one another's feet. For I have given you an example, that you should do as I have done to you. Most assuredly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master; nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him"
stop acting like Peter and worshiping him like a king.
@kjb0410 Uh, maybe you haven't read the debate below about God being loving, hateful, real, imaginary, whether people are good or bad, why would a loving God let all the bad happen, etc. Did you read all of that? That is what I was referring to. People get into debates and it turns nasty, and others who are searching for God are turned off to Him by His people.
This power was given to satan when ADAM fell into sin.ADAM was the Lord of Heaven and earth so when he fell satamn aquired it through all those that sin. Thefirst was Cain then Nimrod. The civil system bvelongs to Him as in the most simple example when he was tempting Jesus said "The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. “I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to."Lk4:5-7
@neronei This power was given to satan when ADAM fell into sin. What kind of ridiculous DIVINE justice is this ? Adam and Eve give into temptation, and god gives all the power to the one who tempted them.. HOW SILLY.
@neronei The Illuminati, who sold their souls for Lucifer, have an obligation to teach the world the wrong names of the Trinity. The purpose of this is so you condemn yourself upon judgment. When Christ asks "Who do you say that I am?" make sure and tell others to answer, :"You are God."
If you give their answer, "You are the son of a talking fire (the Lord)," you will quickly find out where Freemasonry has taken you and have an eternity to think about it. FATIMAMOVEMENT d o t c o m
Amen.His Word says it loud "..I have indeed SEEN THE MISERY of My people in Egypt. I have heard them CRYING OUT because of their slave drivers,and I am concerned about their suffering.SO I HAVE COME DOWN TO RESCUE THEM from the hand of the Egyptians.." EX 3:7-8.That is He(SINGULAR-ONE) personaly made Himself flesh to redeem His people..."who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own,eager to do what is good." Titus 2:14. Amen!!!
Let Him reveal Himself to you and you shall see and feel it by yourself. He is not the God as the World has described Him as because the World HATES Him. He is as His Word explains and glorifies Him into that everloving faithful almighty God that will show Him self to you as a Father to a son. Yeshua bless you.
@neronei I know all that stuff. I have been there. It`s all fantasy. It has no more reality, as thatmillion dollar in your pocket. You can feel it, but never use it. If god is al that loving, why is the god of the Old-testament such a murderous unloving, uncaring, jealous, angry individual ?
As you have implied with " ALL THAT STUFF.. " so I also say to you that I know all that stuff of God being an Evil God and further ask you " show me His evilness if it is so..." and I will show you that you are the one being manipulated by other voices that just appeal to your non belief in Him.
@neronei What do you call a person, who has the power to save 100.000 innocent children and does nothing. You call him a criminal. So when 100.000 innocent children in haiti where dying under the ruble of their houses, your god did nothing, neither to prevent it( what he could easily do ) nor to save the innocents afterwards. Now you know ,why your god is a criminal.
Sorry about the delay.Well what will I call such a person? easy - S A T A N -. How can it be that all the bad and evil in the world is God doing and the when every thing goes well, it is the nature of things and not God's providence.It is easy to accuse God but hard to belive that satan exists.This is why you need to read the bible.It explains that the world has been corrupted by satan and follows his will over those that don't belong to Jesus.Yet you are alive and kicking out abuse against Him
@neronei And who gave all this power to satan. I I think god and satan are just buddies. llLeaving all the dirty jobs for satan. When 34 miners in Chili were saved, all believers claimed a miracle, god saved them. But when a couple months later, 27 miners perished in New-Zeeland, nobody blamed god. Maybe those Kiwis were not worth saving ? God is supposedly in charge of the elements. If that is so, then he alone is to blame. If that is not so, who needs a god ?
Maybe you are basing yourself on a different God?Because as I said earlier everyone wants a supernatural being to provide riches and comfort above all life without pain or strains.But the gospel of Jesus is that even if we live or die we shall always be with Jesus forever. For "If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men."1Cor 15:19. The elements of this world are in confusion thanks to satan and sin. Jesus saves all those that call on Him.
And this is the glory before the world existed---> John 1:1, John 6:62, John 8:58, Hebrews 1:2-3. I don't speak Latin, I only know a few words that are a little similar to Greek. But I see what Latin has to do with this conversation. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR VERY LONG RESPONSE!
@markpaghi Sweetie everybody Knows that what makes God , "God" is the fact he is soo much greater than we mere people, SURE THERE IS SOOO MUCH THAT WE DONT KNOW, and if we did in fact know everything then I suppose we ourselves would have the rights to be a GOD, Its something called " FAITH" child like faith because things are soo faar beyond what our little minds can comprehend. God knows everything and what he wishes for us to know he tells us in his word!! God bless you!! <33
@faith33able Try teaching a child Deut 6:4 - Tell me what they say when you say God is One. And then when they say Ok i understand - say not One means Three in One - now tell them to apply that in Math Class - see if they pass their tests - One thing you fail to understand is saying We dont know everything about God - OK I agree - BUT what has been REVEALED is in the scriptures - this is for us to UNDERSTAND - Otherwise What is the Point of Reading Them? Think about what you are saying.
@faith33able Faith doesnt mean believing in something you dont understand. Faith is hoping for what is unseen - the resurrection - Faith is God saying I am ONE - and believing with all your heart that he is One Singular Being despite everyone around you calling you a Heretic and Child of Satan - THAT is Faith - Faith is when Abraham offered his only Son Isaac because God told him to - Faith is when Noah built the Ark because God told him to - Faith is Knowledge of the Truth in our HEARTS.
6 For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@12345beagle54321 What does the word Elohim mean in hebrew, what about the term "El Gibbor"? Also, this verse states a Child will be born - where can you find this to mean GOD becomes a man? Did the Jews regard Abraham as their Father - so lets suppose I regard Yahshua as my Father - does that mean he is God? Show me a verse where the God/ the Father is called the Prince of Peace?
I first learned this song in Jerusalem during a beautiful pilgrimage through Israel. When our plane landed back in London, we spontaneously sang it to welcome the Israeli passengers to England. I still remember how touched they were. That's the world we could have. One where people value each other and delight in making each other happy and welcome and loved. That's what Yeshua preached and that's what He wants. This song speaks to me of sorrow turning to joy. I love it. X
I Like this Song. God the one who walked the earth born a Jew and His Name is YASHUA/ JESUS The son Of the Living God who came to die for us. He bore all sin, sickness, and disease, so that we may have life more abundantly through Him. God was manafested in the flesh who is YESHUA came to earth, walked with men, He who was Jesus Christ. God who manefested Himself in the Flesh for you and me, and will Heal you and save you. Oh' The Blood Of Jesus' It Washes White As Snow. Jesus Died For you
Jn 17:3 - Means the same as Jn 14:9-10, that is the man Jesus was the instrument through which God Almighty Whom is Spirit lived and spoked therefore He is the Apostle but His Spirit is God Almighty.(1Tim 2:5)
Jn 20:17 - That body as said in Phil 2:8, was fully in the person of a man, therefore He took up the whole life of a man to defeat death through complete obedience in the weakness of a man.But He as a man,belonged to GOD therefore that body has a God that is the God of Israel.
Rev 3:12 - Well Yeshua is the temple of God Whom is a Spirit. Therefore His body is the TEMPLE and His SPIRIT is GOD(Jn.2:19-21,Jn 14:9-10).In Eph 4:9-10 shows us that THIS body,TEMPLE has filled all the UNIVERSE.Therefore in this Temple,His body;we as living tabernacles with His SPIRITare also pillars, which if we are faithfull we will be in eternity with Him.The Name of God of Ex 3:14 is lost.The Name of God revealed is YESHUA - Zec 6:12; 14:9 - Joel 2:30,Acts 4:12
@neronei Yahshua prayed to GOD - and in Rev 3:12 - He told his followers that He would write the name of HIS GOD on them. Yahshua is speaking (not a body) and he is speaking about HIS GOD Yahweh. So are you trying to teach that Yahshua was a schizophrenic and he prayed to Himself? Zec 6:12 - Behold the MAN whose name is the branch SAID YAHWEH. Yahweh is obviously speaking of the messiah, not HIMSELF.
Yeshua was God in the person of sinful man, to redeem man from sin. He had to speak in the person of that man to fulfil all righteousness you stiff necked apostate!As it is writen in Phil 2:5-8, Rom8:3. In Zec 6:12 the branch is the same branch of Isa 11:2 and Jer 23:5.Then in Zec14:4+9 we can clearly see that Yeshua returns to the earth in full flesh and His Name is the ONLY NAME on the earth therefore His Name is the Name of God.This is confirmed in Acts 4:12 and Joel 2:32.
@markpaghi, UH? Are you aware that when it is said Jesus is God it doesn't mean he is the Father? It is because Jesus shares glory with the Father and they are one in unity, ONE GOD. If you reject this and say "well this is false" then Isaiah 42:8 and John 17:5 is your dilemma. That's why in the NT the apostles call Jesus Lord(Kurios) and Yahweh(GOD) because of people like you who don't understand. All your interpretations are false because they are based on the misconception of the being of God
@LogosTheos I know what the trinity teaches - i used to be trinitarian - i used to teach the trinity to others. I do reject that because it IS False - if you want to worship multiple gods then you have free will - but I am telling you, dont try to plead the fifth (ignorance) because you are aware of what others have told you. The reason why they called Yahushua Kurios is not to separate Him from the Father - you're wrong - they also call God Kurios as well plenty of times.
@LogosTheos Kurios is the equivalent of Adon in hebrew - which is what they call the messiah in the Tanach - Adon - meaning master. A title given to MEN who rule, lead, etc. Not only that Yahushua can said to be called God in a few places - so your idea of a separation of Lord and God doesnt exist. God is simply elohim - calling Yahushua elohim proves nothing - if you think it does study the word elohim. My interpretations are given by inspiration of GOD - my Faith is PURE - not Lip Service.
@markpaghi, Kurios is used in the Greek LXX for Yahweh so your wrong, it has a divine meaning in Koine Greek which is why it is also used in the NT to distinguish Jesus from the Father(Theos) as divine.LOL! I quoted Isaiah 42:8 to show how you anti-trinitarians are trapped in a dilemma because you cannot reconcile Isaiah 42:8 and John 17:5, not to prove a trinity.
@LogosTheos You still dont understand what Lord is do you - Lord is kurios - the equivalent is Adon in hebrew like i said before. Dont tell me im wrong Ive studied the hebrew and greek well enough to know that much. Theos is the equivalent of Elohim in hebrew. These are common words - it does not mean deity. I wont argue about that. Lord is not Yahweh (which is not his correct name) in the OT, Ba'al the pagan god is Lord in hebrew that is where you get your word.
@markpaghi, You studied ancient Hebrew and Koine Greek but seem to not know the difference between the ancient HEBREW MASORETIC manucripts of the Torah and Tanakh and the GREEK SEPTUAGINT(LXX) translation of the Torah and Tanakh translated and used by Hellenistic Jews before the time of Christ. We are looking through Koine Greek glasses not Hebrew here. Most of the NT authors quoted the Septuagint translation so we must examine the theology from the Greek eye.
@LogosTheos Thats your opinion - if you want to believe that i cant stop you - regardless, i know the Messiah was a Jewish man, i believe in the God of Israel, I believe in the Promise made to Abraham - I am a Jew inwardly - I dont read scriptures through "Greek glasses" like you supposedly think we should. I read them through Hebraic glasses, which is proper exegesis whether you like it or not. a Greek Eye is nonsense - but follow the JEWISH MESSIAH with a GREEK EYE if you want.
@markpaghi, Psalm 35:22-23, Yahweh, you have seen this; do not be silent. Do not be far from me, Lord. 23 Awake, and rise to my defense! Contend for me, my God and Lord
UH????????? David JUST CALLED Kurios and Theos (reading from Septuagint)
John 20:28, Thomas said to him(Jesus), “My Lord and my God!”
@LogosTheos OK? Did dyou even read what i wrote earlier? Gen 32:4 = my lord Esau - kurios ESAU. Im not gonna sit here and keep showing you how kurios and theos are regular words used for humans and God. Psalm 35:24 - read kurios and theos as well - but it is NOT the same as Verse 23 - LORD and God in Verse 24 is YAHuwah and Elohim as opposed to V.23 which is adonoy. Emphatic form of Adon. Exodus 7:1 - moses is a god to pharaoh - hebrew reads mosheh rawaw nawthan Elohim paro.
@markpaghi, And you have not responded to my challenge with sastisfactory. Give me a scholary source that says KURIOS is not used in place of YHVH in the Greek Septuagint, remember this wasn't a Christian translation because it was translated before Christ by Hellenistic Jews.
@LogosTheos If your version says I have made you Like God to pharaoh it is wrong - the hebrew says i have made you (a) god to pharaoh. Read Psalm 8:5 - you have made him a little lower then the angels - angels is Elohim in hebrew - same as in Exod 7:1. Your greek LXX reads Angellos. Psalm 82:6 - You are gods, Sons of the Most High - LXX reads THEOS. Now read Luke 6:35 - you will be Sons of the Most High. Gen 31:30 - why did you steal my gods? - THEOS. Theos/angellos and Kurios are GENERAL WORDS.
@markpaghi, YOU SAID: Psalm 35:24 - read kurios and theos as well - but it is NOT the same as Verse 23 - LORD and God in Verse 24 is YAHuwah and Elohim as opposed to V.23.
I PREVIOUSLY SAID: Ἰησοῦς κύριος - (Lord Jesus), when speaking of Christ κύριος becomes divine and when referring to other individuals in context it is not.
So you are proving my point unnoticeably. The Septuagint was translated by Jews before Christ and Kurios was the equivalent of Yahweh AND NOT GENERAL.
@LogosTheos I already showed you John 17:5 and 17:22 - the glory you have given me I have GIVEN THEM - I wont argue anymore about that nonsense - John 17:3 is clear enough the Father is the Only True God - says the Messiah - if you dont follow him you wont believe his words. I also showed you how he says I - personal pronoun singular - therefore only ONE person is speaking - even the trinity cannot be "proven" with this - only the Father is speaking, so by your def. only the Father has glory.
@markpaghi, Wherever YHVH and Elohim is used in the Masoretic text, Kurios is used in the Septuagint text. And Θεóς/theos is not the equivalent of Elohim because it is slightly flexible and can be used for Lord also. So don't tell me Kurios is not a divine name in koine greek since Hellenistic Jews used "Kurios" in translation of YHVH instead of theos.
@LogosTheos Im not even going to get into Masoretic and Ancient Hebrew - that doesnt matter - Kurios like i said is Adon - Kurios is not a divine name - if you think that you are blind - Acts 16:30 - Sirs = kurios, Matt 27:63 - Sir = kurios, John 4:11 - sir=kurios, John 20:15 - sir = kurios, Rev 7:14 - sir=kurios - Etc Etc. Unless you want to believe people called Everyone a "Divine Name" then go ahead. Obviously Greek isnt the same as Hebrew - therefore they only had Kurios as opposed to hebrew
@markpaghi, NICE TRY, John 17:5 is not a parallel with John 17:22. Because glory is used in a different context in each passage. John 17:4 is actually the parellel because this glory is based off the works the Father gave Jesus on Earth to accomplish which are the same works he has given to the disciples to speard the gospel. In John 17:5, to give you a different context of glory Jesus says " glorify me in your own presence WITH THE GLORY that I had with you before the world existed.
@LogosTheos Yes it is a parallel - the entire passage is a parallel between the Messiah and his Disciples. John 17:3 - the Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD, 17:8 - I have given them the Words YOU GAVE ME. 17:11- that they may be One as We are One. 17:14 - they are not of this world just as I am not of this world. 17:22 - the glory you have given me I have GIVEN THEM. 17:24 - PAY ATTENTION - glory you have given me because YOU LOVED ME BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD - EPH 1:4.
@markpaghi, That's it? You just dust and sweep off my points like that? The NT is written in Greek and originally in Greek by hellenistic influence (excluding Matthew). Ἰησοῦς κύριος - (Lord Jesus) when speaking of Christ κύριος becomes divine and when referring to other individuals in context it is not. This is why I brought up the Greek Septuagint(LXX) which you keep ignoring. Greek eye (LXX) with Greek eye (NT). I challenge you to show me that κύριος is not used for YHVH in the Septuagint.
@neronei Zec 6:12 - You say somehow proves Yahshua is Yahweh? 1Cor 15:25-28 - God has put all things under Messiah's feet, but when it says All Things, it is Plain that GOD is excluded from being under Yahshua, then when all things are subjected to Yahshua, he himself will be subjected to GOD so that GOD may be All in All. V.24 - When Messiah delivers the kingdom to GOD - Yahweh will Rule Over ALL. Isaiah 66:23. If you believe Yahshua is Flesh (Luke 24:39) Then ALL flesh includes Yahshua.
You are right my DEAR MAN because God is the HEAD of CHRIST 1Cor11:3, because Christ is God in Fullness as in Col 1:19,2:9.In Rev 21:23 we see this in full compiment where Christ is God in fullness of God and submited to Him. He is the IMAGE the EXACT REPRESENTATION of God (Col1:15, Heb 1:3) It is obvious that God cannot be put under Christs feet for God is the HEAD of that BODY.
But what are you saying that Yeshua is not flesh now? He is that flesh glorified Lk24:39,Jn 20:19-20
@neronei Precisely - there is no disagreement. I am saying Yahshua is glorified flesh - but what are YOU saying? I am agreed - and the scriptures agree - but how this proves a trinity i am not aware. But this is Truth at face value.
@neronei Jn 14:9-10 speaks of the Father and Yahshua. In John 17:3 - Yahshua said the Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD. So Yahshua was the instrument through whom GOD lived and spoke? So Yahshua is NOT God? So in other words - His Body is a separate person? If you said something, would you say "I said it" or "My body said it"? Your body is DUST and has no life without GOD breathing his Ruach into you. John 20:17 - was AFTER the resurrection - So he was raised in weakness? 1Cor 15:43
No Jn14:9-10 is God the Father speaking in FIRST person so He cannot be a instrument of God but only God in full person,because one that represents a King or nation can speak in FIRST PERSON as that King or Nation.We have to go a little back in that scripture in v7 Philip is wanting to phisically see the Father and the Father in person answers Him rebuking Him for His ignorance in V9+10. So Yeshua is God whom is Spirit, in Flesh as stated in Heb 1:3,and confirmed in Jm 2:26, Ef4:4-6,Rev21:23 !!!
@neronei It is clear to me that you dont know what youre teaching - and with that being the case you need to just stop trying to make up answers or looking up answers on youtube - You can say whatever you want, but at the end of the Day - You realize that you dont really Know. I would admit this to GOD and stop trying to teach confusing things that contradict themselves. If you teach False Doctrines willingly you are a false Prophet, dont let that happen to you.
It is clear to me that you dont understand the Word or vision of God as in 1Cor2:11, and seeing that I have answered you by the Word and meaning of that Word that you are spiritualy DUMB to these meanings.Open your eyes to the Word and your mind to the SPIRIT of Yeshua,and take away those brain washing notions that you have memorized and not meditated,that the INC and simular doctrines have given,saying that Yeshua is a NORMAL HUMAN and not GOD, that just found grace from God! Shame on you!
@neronei I am not brainwashed. I am not dumb. I WAS brainwashed - which is what the church does - they Indoctrinate you into beliefs - like the trinity, fiery hell, immortal soul, etc. This happens BEFORE you read the bible - that way you interpret the bible wrong. You are wrong - I meditated on the scripures a long time - many nights of studying - many hours of mediating in my heart and mind - many prayers to Yahweh - much work - and MUCH Joy has he given me Through Messiah.
@markpaghi, I'm looking at other objections you raised and they all have the same misconception that the Son = Father. Psalm 35:23, Awake, and rise to my defense! Contend for me, my God and Lord. John 20:28, Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
You cannot impose inconsistency on the text, The Bible affirms without doubt the Deity of Christ and also affirms that Christ is seperate from the Father. This is where the "Trinity" comes from which can reconcile Isaiah 42:8 and John 17:5
@LogosTheos That is because the trinity teaches they are both God - if you want to be foolish and say they are separate that is your choice - if the Father is God and the son is God - the Father is the Son - otherwise they are not both GOD. Or you have polytheism. Psalm 25 - OK. John 20:28 - OK. The bible does not affirm the "deity of christ" which you mean Messiah NOT christ. Trinity comes from pagan philosophy - just look up teachings of NeoPlatonism and you will find every trinity Word there.
@markpagh, JESUS IS GOD NOT THE FATHER! TRINITARIANS NEVER BELIEVED THAT!! Jesus and the Father are a working unity and since Jesus is worthy of worship as the Father is(John 17:5), sits at the RIGHT HAND OF GOD and is one in will with the father THEY ARE ONE GOD NOT TWO GODS! You are the polotheist here not me, HOW CAN YOU WORSHIP THE MESSIAH IF HE IS JUST A MAN? TWO GODS? HAHAHA
@LogosTheos Isaiah 42:8 does NOT prove a trinity - What does the Word "I" mean - does that signify ME or more then one person? God said, I will not give my glory to another - Now only ONE person is speaking here - and if indeed God is a triune God then ONLY the Father is speaking - in which case you can say Gen 1:26 is an example of The Three persons speaking to each other - but in Isaiah 42:8 - ONLY ONE person is Speaking - I is a personal singular pronoun - so Either way..cont..
@LogosTheos Either way you have the FATHER saying I will not give my glory to another. Which would include any other person EXCEPT the ONE who is speaking. This doesnt prove a trinity - but this is how you interpreted this verse. and you added John 17:5, which two verse before the messiah says the FATHER is the ONLY TRUE GOD. Then in verse 5 it proves a trinity? Weak - strawman - ambiguous - implicit - hidden meanings - IT gets old. Right in verse 6 the messiah says "I have manifested your name.
@LogosTheos John 17:6 - Now what is the Name of the Father who is God - YHWH - obviously the name of God cant be Yahushua and YHWH at the same time - the Jews knew the name of God is YHWH - Joshua the messiah is obviously not God. Now read John 17:22 - The glory you have GIVEN ME I HAVE GIVEN THEM. - Your argument is weak and strawman biased - we receive the SAME GLORY the GOD GAVE YAHUSHUA and HE GAVE US. - You need to stop spreading pagan Lies before you come under judgment.
Half my message has been cut off. It was a message of love and gratitude to the Jewish people for what we who believe in Jesus have received through their faithfulness to God and an expression of happiness that so many now understand more about Jesus. Please know that real Christians have a real love for the Jewish people.
I have been Christian all my life, and was brought up to understand that Jesus was Jewish and came to the Jewish people first. Many Jewish people did accept Him then, including the apostles and thousands who followed Him or heard the apostles preaching after His resurrection. Originally they tried to continue to attend the synagogue, but it is totally understandable that some had difficulty accepting them. If Jesus had come humbly amongst us, we should understand that it was a huge thing to bel
the writting Jesus used to open my eyes is - Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily
Col 2:8-9; I am a Jew by blood line and now a Jew by BLOOD in the Name . To the only wise God our Saviour(JESUS), be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
This people are liars!human can never be God!!the God almighty is the unseen God not the one who died on the crossed AND CAN NEVER GET KILLED.our prophet Jesus has been taken away to heaven and the guy who were killed were a jews whom always making fun of jesus during their friendhood..God deceives jews view at that very moment and replaced that man instead of jesus!May our only GOD show u guidance very soon!
Yeshua says "Don't you know Me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? that is He was the unseen God and Father of all in FLESH!Jn 14:9-10
Then in all the other various parts of the New Testament Paul and all the rest of apostles show that He is the almighty God in flesh as in Rom 9:5 and in Col 2:9
@neronei Interesting how you make no references to the Tanach. So if Yashua is GOD why didnt he just come out and say it. Why does it have to be ambiguous and confusing speech?
Where do I not make reference to the TANACH? Yeshua in Isa 7:14 and 9:6 is clearly shown as GOD ALMIGHTY !!! Why did He not say it openly? Well He did but in a way that those that wanted God would reconize Him but those that did not were condemed as not being with God, for not all Israel is Israel(1Kings 19:18). In Mat 13:10-15 we see this clearly. But in Jn 8:58,10:30 and 14:9-10 He clearly shows Himself as GOD ALMIGHTY for this they wanted to kill Him!
@neronei Isaiah 7:14 and 9:6. Is that it? There should be all the prophecies about the Messiah in the Tanach. Where is Isaiah 9:6 applied to Yahshua in the NT? Usually when we see prophecy fulfilled they state it, like Matt 13:35 - Spoken of by the prophet that it might be fulfilled. We can assume this is Yahshua but we no one applied this to Him in the NT. Then you go back to John. There was NO John in Yahshuas day - Luke 24:44 - Torah, Prophets, Psalms Yahshua said Clearly.
OH you wanted all the prophesies of Yeshua in the Tanach !!! This shows that you cannot follow a simple biblical argument with the word of God.Just because Isa 9:6 is not quoted by the gospels or apostles does not mean it is not a prophesy of Yeshua as Messia.This means that Gen3:15, Isa11:1-2, Jer 23:5 and many others that are not quoted are not valid as Yeshua? Isa 9:7 conferms that it is Yeshua because it is only Yeshua the Son of David that sits on His throne forever as in 2Sam7:13-14.
@neronei OK once can use discernment and reason that God gave them to see if a prophecy fits the messiah or not - once again - Isaiah 9:6 - According to the trinity the Father is NOT the son, this doesnt prove a trinity. You have TWO options in this case - You can say the Father doesnt mean he is God the Father but is rather referring to him being father much like abraham (jews said he is our father). On the other hand, if you dont say that, you CANNOT say GOD refers to him being YHWH - simple.
" There was NO John in Yahshuas day ??????" What are you SAYING dear MAN ???? And you call me a false prophet !!!! You dont know where to start or end which shows that you are confused !!!
@neronei Yes there was no John - this is the written account of John - it didnt exist in Yahushuas day - you can call me whatever you want - truth is still truth - you keep going to John over and over again - Obviously John had the Tanach - but you seem to use John over the Tanach - which is what we are told to test what we hear by. The holy scriptures in that day were what? The Tanach - The bereans tested what they were told by the TANACH - Yahushua said The scriptures (Tanach) spoke of HIM.
@markpaghi, By the grace of God answer this objection, how can you reconcile Isaiah 42:8 and John 17:5 without a trinitarian view? You never answered it
@surinamohdramli No Christian believe God is a human. God is a spirit the spirit became flesh while on earth but he still was spirit in heaven at the same time. I have a question. If Jesus was just only the Messiah and the Jews known that he was the Messiah and if he was teaching the Torah and believe he was sent from God why did they wanted to kill him.
@loveroflife365 . You would be wrong cause scripture states that God was manifested in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16) and also that In the beginning the word was God, and the Word became flesh and dwelt among me(John 1:1,14) Jesus being the flesh, and if Jesus is the Word made flesh and the Word is God, then Jesus Christ is God!
Colossians 1:16 states that by Jesus was all things created, stating in fact that Jesus is the creator, Genesis 1 says God created the heavens... so Jesus must be God!
@cloventongues85 I Tim. 3:16 "... godliness (not God) was manifest ..." The "logos" of John 1:1 is God's tangible communication (spoken), the vehicle of creation and NOT A PERSON. Col. 1 is a testament to the preeminence of Jesus Christ, that he is the firstborn from the DEAD and that by or because of him, God created all things. Jesus is NOT GOD.
@loveroflife365 jesus died for nothing im going to hell because jesus was just a man. ok now im going to buy a lamb and bleed it on an alter wait i need a temple but theirs a mosque over the temple oh and im not jewish , wait jesus rased the dead heald the sick and turned water to wine and in the bible he stated he thought it not robbery to be equal to god,ok im rusty and god has spoken through the profits and in the last days he will speek through his son through who he created the worlds
@jntdavis97 The Bible teaches that God is One, Deut 6:4. The One God is the Father, I Cor 8:6. This One God has a begotten Son who we know as the Messiah, or Jesus. The Messiah is the Son of the One God. God requires the shedding of blood, life for life, for the remission of sin, Heb 9:22. God is spirit. But there was one who was willing to give his life and die in the place of all men. Jesus COULD do that. God could NOT do that because he is inherently immortal, I Tim. 6:16.
@jntdavis97 Moses did a lot of miracles - Was he God? Moses was called God in Exod 7:1 - IS he Yahweh? Judges are called Gods in Psalm 82:6, 138:1, - is this Polytheism? I know a mexican guy named Immanuel - Does that mean he is God incarnate?
@cloventongues85 Are you trying to say the Word of God is Yahshua. Read the Tanach (OT) and tell me what the Word of God is. Not only that - Lets use your logic - In the beginning was Yahshua, and Yahshua was with the Father, and Yahshua WAS the Father. SO Yahshua is the Father, he is the Son of himself, of the Father of himself, however you want to put it. John 1:14 - And Yahshua became flesh and dwelt among us....the only son from the Father. But V.1 says he IS the Father, so which is it?
Blessed be Yeshua haMassiah for having mercy on me a sinner, and the scum of the earth...I will speak of His majesty as long as I have breath in me, Blessed you again for this video. It lifted my spirit...I can listen to it over and over again.......Shalom
@hammerandnails777 IF Yahshua is the Mashiach - the anointed one - Who anointed Him? In Isaiah 45:1 - why is Cyrus called the Mashiach as well, why is Saul an anointed one, why is David an anointed one? Who anointed David, Saul, Cyrus, Yahshua, etc. Who put His Spirit upon these People? Isaiah 61, Acts 10:38.
In the name of Allah, the Compassionate one, the Compassionate one!
Certainly, the Religion, for Allah, is the Islam. Those to whom the Writing was given did not object some to others, for mutual rebelliousness, but after having received the Science. The one who does not believe in Allah's signs... Allah is rapid in accounts(bills) fit.
Jesus is the Lamb of G-d no the Lion. The Lamb symbolized the purity of his Levitical priesthood being that he was a Levite born of the Mary the Levite and not a "Jew"/of the tribe of Judah. (Luke 1:36)
Amen.Yes Yeshua was Levite from His Mother's side, but and being the firstborn in the marriage of Joseph and Mary He inherites the line of David, the Throne of Judah and of Israel from Joseph's side.He is therefore the LION OF JUDAH as to His inheritance as prophesized by ISRAEL (Jacob) in Gen 49:8-12 especially the v10 "The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. Yeshua bless you.
"But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers. God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."
5 Wherefore when HE COMETH INTO THE WORLD, "HE" (GOD THE WORD) saith, Sacrifice and offering THOU (GOD THE FATHER) wouldest not, but a BODY (THE SON) hast THOU (GOD THE FATHER) prepared ME: (GOD THE WORD)
@neronei So are you saying Yahshua is Spirit now? So he wasnt really Human? Luke 24:39 - Yashua denies he is spirit. 1John 4:2-3 says whoever confessed Messiah came in the Flesh (meaning was Human NOT spirit) is of God, whoever denies it is not of God. The gnostics taught Yahshua was a spirit, not a real human, therefore He did not die or get resurrected because he wasnt a mortal.
Don't twist my words.I have said in all the video that Yeshua,is GOD,whom is a SPIRIT (Jn 4:24) Whom made Himself flesh.But when He went into heaven (Acts 1:11) and sat on the throne in the upmost height of creation called ZAPHON (Isa 14:13;Rev 3:21) He then sends back His Holy Spirit on the earth upon His CHURCH (Acts1:4,8).Therefore He is God Almighty in real human flesh, born of a woman,died and resurrected in that SAME FLESH, and now glorified in heaven. One Spirit in One Flesh - Eph 4:4-6
This has been flagged as spam show
Something i'd like to share about the first and second coming of the Messiah, that jews non-believers in Christ challenge us to show them. Here they are:
humbleman9 3 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@humbleman9 First Yeshua/Real Jesus comming:
What is man, that you are mindful of him? and the SON OF MAN, that you VISIT him (man/mankind)? Psalms? 8:4
Ressurection:
Let your hand rest on the man at your right hand, the son of man you have raised up for yourself. Psalms 80:17
All authority given to Him:
You made him ruler over the works of your? hands; YOU PUT EVERYTHING UNDER HIS FEET:? Psalms 8:6
humbleman9 3 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@humbleman9 Second comming as the Lion King and ruler of everything above and under Heavens:
"In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a SON OF MAN, coming? with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence.? Daniel 7:13
OH people of the Wrong book, be prudent, because you shall see the SON OF MAN with great power.
The desert tribes will bow before him and his enemies will lick the dust (Psalms 72)
humbleman9 3 weeks ago
Jesus is God!The King of the Kings!
Charlotte7615 1 month ago
John 8:24
New International Version (NIV)
24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.”
xxjaycxx1 1 month ago
Isaiah 9:6
New International Version (NIV)
6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
xxjaycxx1 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I'm brazilian and believe that G-d is G-d; and Jesus/Yeshua is a man.
jonasrocha1997 1 month ago
I'm brazilian and believe that G-d is G-d; and Jesus/Yeshua is a man.
jonasrocha1997 1 month ago
Amen! There is only ONE God who manifested in flesh (1 Timothy 3:16) and that is JESUS.
He is not 3 persons. He is NOT Trinity.
sparklegirl19 2 months ago
JESUS IS GOD. if you deny that He is God, then you are denying I AM.
Jacki79 4 months ago
If the Body is the Son of God, then body lies because only God can paid the infinite cost for our sins. Jesus said I am. I am in Judaism is name of God. I am in Hebrew meaning self existing. The Body was created per this video, so either Jesus lied or video is false
MrHellowwww1 6 months ago
In Ephesians 4:4 it clearly states that there is " One Spirit (whom is God Jn.4:24) and One BODY and again in James.2:26 " the Body without the Spirit is dead...". Jesus (Body as man 1Tim.2:9) is the image (Physical) of the invisible God Whom is Spirit...Col1:15...The Son is the physical Body generated by the Spirit of God for Himself...Mat.1:18+20; Lk.1:35....
neronei 5 months ago
@neronei Well word, but the Trinity is true. The trinity has three names for God in Hebrew is the first verse. The Shema has three parts. The Jewish people pray with three fingers making the Hebrew character shin. There is an “us” in Genesis 1:26 and Isaiah 6:8. The Hebrew word for Gods which is Elohim is used 2000+ times vs. the Hebrew word for God is used 200 +. The Passover meal has three crackers which are baked together. The 2nd principle of Judaism is a God of unity.
MrHellowwww1 5 months ago
None of these things are proof of the One and Only God being THREE (NUMBER)...You are just putting yourself to shame... None of these proves that there are Three distict and separate persons whom are and therefore are three distinct and sperate gods in the old testament ....Three crackers means three persons...? I don't think so. As always the trinity has to find such feeble and ridiculous ways of proof Shame on you...I realy feel sorry for you.
neronei 5 months ago
@neronei Thank you for the postive words, but I am trying not to offed you. The Bible has many three in it, so the Bible trend to plurality in the God. God said us in Gensis 1:26 and Isaiah 6:8. Jesus said in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost in Matthew 28.19. Since us is plural and Jesus said Matthew 28:19, then the name of God and how God is defined are two topics. Are you ignoring God word to support a thelogoy which implies Jesus words are false?
MrHellowwww1 5 months ago
@neronei How about Jews for Jesus? A group of Jewish Hebrew scholars who covert to Christianity and they believe the Trinity. Search for any Messianic Group and see what they believe. I will send you a video from their site.
MrHellowwww1 5 months ago
@neronei Why Oneness is not true? Jesus said in Matthew 27 45 From noon until three in the afternoon darkness came over all the land. 46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[c] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[d]
Facts three in afternoon and 3 crosses. The problem without the Trinity, how can any theology be true? Jesus has to be God to pay for our with a God who left him.
MrHellowwww1 5 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@neronei Why Oneness is not true? Jesus said in Matthew 27 45 From noon until three in the afternoon darkness came over all the land. 46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[c] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[d]
Facts three in afternoon and 3 crosses. The problem without the Trinity, how can any theology be true? Jesus has to be God to pay for our with a God who left him.
MrHellowwww1 5 months ago
@neronei Why Oneness is not true? Jesus said in Matthew 27 45 From noon until three in the afternoon darkness came over all the land. 46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[c] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[d]
Facts three in afternoon and 3 crosses. The problem without the Trinity, how can any theology be true? Jesus has to be God to pay for our with a God who left him.
MrHellowwww1 5 months ago
Is Jesus able to forgive me even if i don't believe he is still alive
thomasbryn1 7 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
RECUERDA BN: YESHUA ES EL HIJO QUIEN ES UNO CON EL PADRE PERO NO ES EL PADRE EL ES NUESTRO HERMANO MAYOR, NO TE CONFUNDAS....... YO AMO A MI HERMANO MAYOR YESHUA. ADONAI TE BENDIGA HERMANO
gorgov 9 months ago
RECUERDA BN: YESHUA ES EL HIJO QUIEN ES UNO CON EL PADRE PERO NO ES EL PADRE EL ES NUESTRO HERMANO MAYOR, NO TE CONFUNDAS....... YO AMO A MI HERMANO MAYOR YESHUA. ADONAI TE BENDIGA HERMANO
gorgov 9 months ago
"You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am. If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet; you also ought to wash one another's feet. For I have given you an example, that you should do as I have done to you. Most assuredly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master; nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him"
stop acting like Peter and worshiping him like a king.
we are all in god and god is in all of us.
Jesus was self realized nothing more.
topbluffa1 10 months ago
Amen Praise His Holy Name........
kjb0410 10 months ago
@Neronei, Which faith do you belong too. Your view that Adam was the Lord of Heaven and earth is right one with my beliefs, brother.
ConvinceTheWorld 11 months ago
Amen. Este es el verdadero Dios y la vida eterna 1´jhon5´20
jorge4173 11 months ago
Thank you both for making a wonderful song into YET ANOTHER religious debate. And people wonder why no one wants to discuss faith.
eunit819 11 months ago
Thank you both for making a wonderful song into YET ANOTHER religious debate. And people wonder why no one wants to discuss faith.
eunit819 11 months ago
@eunit819 What's there to debate... it's the Word of God....
kjb0410 10 months ago
@kjb0410 Uh, maybe you haven't read the debate below about God being loving, hateful, real, imaginary, whether people are good or bad, why would a loving God let all the bad happen, etc. Did you read all of that? That is what I was referring to. People get into debates and it turns nasty, and others who are searching for God are turned off to Him by His people.
eunit819 10 months ago
This power was given to satan when ADAM fell into sin.ADAM was the Lord of Heaven and earth so when he fell satamn aquired it through all those that sin. Thefirst was Cain then Nimrod. The civil system bvelongs to Him as in the most simple example when he was tempting Jesus said "The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. “I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to."Lk4:5-7
neronei 1 year ago
@neronei This power was given to satan when ADAM fell into sin. What kind of ridiculous DIVINE justice is this ? Adam and Eve give into temptation, and god gives all the power to the one who tempted them.. HOW SILLY.
tallliza 1 year ago
@neronei The Illuminati, who sold their souls for Lucifer, have an obligation to teach the world the wrong names of the Trinity. The purpose of this is so you condemn yourself upon judgment. When Christ asks "Who do you say that I am?" make sure and tell others to answer, :"You are God."
If you give their answer, "You are the son of a talking fire (the Lord)," you will quickly find out where Freemasonry has taken you and have an eternity to think about it. FATIMAMOVEMENT d o t c o m
fatimamovement 8 months ago
Amen.His Word says it loud "..I have indeed SEEN THE MISERY of My people in Egypt. I have heard them CRYING OUT because of their slave drivers,and I am concerned about their suffering.SO I HAVE COME DOWN TO RESCUE THEM from the hand of the Egyptians.." EX 3:7-8.That is He(SINGULAR-ONE) personaly made Himself flesh to redeem His people..."who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own,eager to do what is good." Titus 2:14. Amen!!!
neronei 1 year ago
shalommmmm
gilsonnog 1 year ago
Shalom to you in the Name of Yeshua. Yeshua bless you.
neronei 1 year ago
There is no loving ,caring. just god. Impossible
tallliza 1 year ago
Let Him reveal Himself to you and you shall see and feel it by yourself. He is not the God as the World has described Him as because the World HATES Him. He is as His Word explains and glorifies Him into that everloving faithful almighty God that will show Him self to you as a Father to a son. Yeshua bless you.
neronei 1 year ago
@neronei I know all that stuff. I have been there. It`s all fantasy. It has no more reality, as thatmillion dollar in your pocket. You can feel it, but never use it. If god is al that loving, why is the god of the Old-testament such a murderous unloving, uncaring, jealous, angry individual ?
tallliza 1 year ago
As you have implied with " ALL THAT STUFF.. " so I also say to you that I know all that stuff of God being an Evil God and further ask you " show me His evilness if it is so..." and I will show you that you are the one being manipulated by other voices that just appeal to your non belief in Him.
neronei 1 year ago
@neronei What do you call a person, who has the power to save 100.000 innocent children and does nothing. You call him a criminal. So when 100.000 innocent children in haiti where dying under the ruble of their houses, your god did nothing, neither to prevent it( what he could easily do ) nor to save the innocents afterwards. Now you know ,why your god is a criminal.
tallliza 1 year ago
Sorry about the delay.Well what will I call such a person? easy - S A T A N -. How can it be that all the bad and evil in the world is God doing and the when every thing goes well, it is the nature of things and not God's providence.It is easy to accuse God but hard to belive that satan exists.This is why you need to read the bible.It explains that the world has been corrupted by satan and follows his will over those that don't belong to Jesus.Yet you are alive and kicking out abuse against Him
neronei 1 year ago
@neronei And who gave all this power to satan. I I think god and satan are just buddies. llLeaving all the dirty jobs for satan. When 34 miners in Chili were saved, all believers claimed a miracle, god saved them. But when a couple months later, 27 miners perished in New-Zeeland, nobody blamed god. Maybe those Kiwis were not worth saving ? God is supposedly in charge of the elements. If that is so, then he alone is to blame. If that is not so, who needs a god ?
tallliza 1 year ago
Maybe you are basing yourself on a different God?Because as I said earlier everyone wants a supernatural being to provide riches and comfort above all life without pain or strains.But the gospel of Jesus is that even if we live or die we shall always be with Jesus forever. For "If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men."1Cor 15:19. The elements of this world are in confusion thanks to satan and sin. Jesus saves all those that call on Him.
neronei 1 year ago
Christ,yashua,massiah.the way the truth and the light.read what he wants YOU to do.
don,t listen to others they can mislead you.
mickwillie1 1 year ago
AMEN. "Sanctify them by the truth; Your word is truth." Jn 17:17. ONLY THE WORD OF GOD !!!
neronei 1 year ago
what a beautiful praise. fills my spirit with pure joy!
megaman90 1 year ago
And this is the glory before the world existed---> John 1:1, John 6:62, John 8:58, Hebrews 1:2-3. I don't speak Latin, I only know a few words that are a little similar to Greek. But I see what Latin has to do with this conversation. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR VERY LONG RESPONSE!
LogosTheos 1 year ago
@markpaghi Sweetie everybody Knows that what makes God , "God" is the fact he is soo much greater than we mere people, SURE THERE IS SOOO MUCH THAT WE DONT KNOW, and if we did in fact know everything then I suppose we ourselves would have the rights to be a GOD, Its something called " FAITH" child like faith because things are soo faar beyond what our little minds can comprehend. God knows everything and what he wishes for us to know he tells us in his word!! God bless you!! <33
faith33able 1 year ago
@faith33able Try teaching a child Deut 6:4 - Tell me what they say when you say God is One. And then when they say Ok i understand - say not One means Three in One - now tell them to apply that in Math Class - see if they pass their tests - One thing you fail to understand is saying We dont know everything about God - OK I agree - BUT what has been REVEALED is in the scriptures - this is for us to UNDERSTAND - Otherwise What is the Point of Reading Them? Think about what you are saying.
markpaghi 1 year ago
@faith33able Faith doesnt mean believing in something you dont understand. Faith is hoping for what is unseen - the resurrection - Faith is God saying I am ONE - and believing with all your heart that he is One Singular Being despite everyone around you calling you a Heretic and Child of Satan - THAT is Faith - Faith is when Abraham offered his only Son Isaac because God told him to - Faith is when Noah built the Ark because God told him to - Faith is Knowledge of the Truth in our HEARTS.
markpaghi 1 year ago
Beautiful!!!
joselinema 1 year ago
Not one scripture in the OT says the messiah will be god-man. Jesus is a false messiah.
RadicalMonotheist 1 year ago
@RadicalMonotheist: read it again and pray to God that He opens your spiritual eyes and u will see.
adamantis4657 1 year ago
@adamantis4657 Look up avodah zarah. Read about it and pray the blinders will come off and you will see that you are deep into idol worship.
RadicalMonotheist 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@RadicalMonotheist YOU ARE WRONG and I'll prove it.
Isaiah 9:6
For to us a child is born, to us a SON is given, and the government will be on his shoulders.
And HE will be called Wonderful Counselor, MIGHTY GOD, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. YOU NEED TO WAKE UP!!!!
12345beagle54321 1 year ago
@RadicalMonotheist
Isaiah 9:6 (New King James Version)
6 For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
12345beagle54321 1 year ago
@12345beagle54321 What does the word Elohim mean in hebrew, what about the term "El Gibbor"? Also, this verse states a Child will be born - where can you find this to mean GOD becomes a man? Did the Jews regard Abraham as their Father - so lets suppose I regard Yahshua as my Father - does that mean he is God? Show me a verse where the God/ the Father is called the Prince of Peace?
markpaghi 1 year ago
@12345beagle54321 Isaiah 9:6...that is a nice description of Hezekiah. Not the man from Nazareth.
RadicalMonotheist 1 year ago
I first learned this song in Jerusalem during a beautiful pilgrimage through Israel. When our plane landed back in London, we spontaneously sang it to welcome the Israeli passengers to England. I still remember how touched they were. That's the world we could have. One where people value each other and delight in making each other happy and welcome and loved. That's what Yeshua preached and that's what He wants. This song speaks to me of sorrow turning to joy. I love it. X
lebongo2 1 year ago
Yeshua of Nazareth bless you greatly.
neronei 1 year ago
@neronei His name isnt Yeshua. It is Joshua or Yehoshua.
RadicalMonotheist 1 year ago
I Like this Song. God the one who walked the earth born a Jew and His Name is YASHUA/ JESUS The son Of the Living God who came to die for us. He bore all sin, sickness, and disease, so that we may have life more abundantly through Him. God was manafested in the flesh who is YESHUA came to earth, walked with men, He who was Jesus Christ. God who manefested Himself in the Flesh for you and me, and will Heal you and save you. Oh' The Blood Of Jesus' It Washes White As Snow. Jesus Died For you
RSMJ15 1 year ago
Amen ! The One and Only God Almighty Yeshua of Nazareth bless you greatly!
neronei 1 year ago
@neronei If Yashua is the One and Only God, then what does John 17:3, 20:17, Rev 3:12 mean?
markpaghi 1 year ago
Jn 17:3 - Means the same as Jn 14:9-10, that is the man Jesus was the instrument through which God Almighty Whom is Spirit lived and spoked therefore He is the Apostle but His Spirit is God Almighty.(1Tim 2:5)
Jn 20:17 - That body as said in Phil 2:8, was fully in the person of a man, therefore He took up the whole life of a man to defeat death through complete obedience in the weakness of a man.But He as a man,belonged to GOD therefore that body has a God that is the God of Israel.
neronei 1 year ago
Rev 3:12 - Well Yeshua is the temple of God Whom is a Spirit. Therefore His body is the TEMPLE and His SPIRIT is GOD(Jn.2:19-21,Jn 14:9-10).In Eph 4:9-10 shows us that THIS body,TEMPLE has filled all the UNIVERSE.Therefore in this Temple,His body;we as living tabernacles with His SPIRITare also pillars, which if we are faithfull we will be in eternity with Him.The Name of God of Ex 3:14 is lost.The Name of God revealed is YESHUA - Zec 6:12; 14:9 - Joel 2:30,Acts 4:12
neronei 1 year ago
@neronei Yahshua prayed to GOD - and in Rev 3:12 - He told his followers that He would write the name of HIS GOD on them. Yahshua is speaking (not a body) and he is speaking about HIS GOD Yahweh. So are you trying to teach that Yahshua was a schizophrenic and he prayed to Himself? Zec 6:12 - Behold the MAN whose name is the branch SAID YAHWEH. Yahweh is obviously speaking of the messiah, not HIMSELF.
markpaghi 1 year ago
Yeshua was God in the person of sinful man, to redeem man from sin. He had to speak in the person of that man to fulfil all righteousness you stiff necked apostate!As it is writen in Phil 2:5-8, Rom8:3. In Zec 6:12 the branch is the same branch of Isa 11:2 and Jer 23:5.Then in Zec14:4+9 we can clearly see that Yeshua returns to the earth in full flesh and His Name is the ONLY NAME on the earth therefore His Name is the Name of God.This is confirmed in Acts 4:12 and Joel 2:32.
neronei 1 year ago
@markpaghi, UH? Are you aware that when it is said Jesus is God it doesn't mean he is the Father? It is because Jesus shares glory with the Father and they are one in unity, ONE GOD. If you reject this and say "well this is false" then Isaiah 42:8 and John 17:5 is your dilemma. That's why in the NT the apostles call Jesus Lord(Kurios) and Yahweh(GOD) because of people like you who don't understand. All your interpretations are false because they are based on the misconception of the being of God
LogosTheos 1 year ago
@LogosTheos I know what the trinity teaches - i used to be trinitarian - i used to teach the trinity to others. I do reject that because it IS False - if you want to worship multiple gods then you have free will - but I am telling you, dont try to plead the fifth (ignorance) because you are aware of what others have told you. The reason why they called Yahushua Kurios is not to separate Him from the Father - you're wrong - they also call God Kurios as well plenty of times.
markpaghi 1 year ago
@LogosTheos Kurios is the equivalent of Adon in hebrew - which is what they call the messiah in the Tanach - Adon - meaning master. A title given to MEN who rule, lead, etc. Not only that Yahushua can said to be called God in a few places - so your idea of a separation of Lord and God doesnt exist. God is simply elohim - calling Yahushua elohim proves nothing - if you think it does study the word elohim. My interpretations are given by inspiration of GOD - my Faith is PURE - not Lip Service.
markpaghi 1 year ago
@markpaghi, Kurios is used in the Greek LXX for Yahweh so your wrong, it has a divine meaning in Koine Greek which is why it is also used in the NT to distinguish Jesus from the Father(Theos) as divine.LOL! I quoted Isaiah 42:8 to show how you anti-trinitarians are trapped in a dilemma because you cannot reconcile Isaiah 42:8 and John 17:5, not to prove a trinity.
LogosTheos 1 year ago
@LogosTheos You still dont understand what Lord is do you - Lord is kurios - the equivalent is Adon in hebrew like i said before. Dont tell me im wrong Ive studied the hebrew and greek well enough to know that much. Theos is the equivalent of Elohim in hebrew. These are common words - it does not mean deity. I wont argue about that. Lord is not Yahweh (which is not his correct name) in the OT, Ba'al the pagan god is Lord in hebrew that is where you get your word.
markpaghi 1 year ago
@markpaghi, You studied ancient Hebrew and Koine Greek but seem to not know the difference between the ancient HEBREW MASORETIC manucripts of the Torah and Tanakh and the GREEK SEPTUAGINT(LXX) translation of the Torah and Tanakh translated and used by Hellenistic Jews before the time of Christ. We are looking through Koine Greek glasses not Hebrew here. Most of the NT authors quoted the Septuagint translation so we must examine the theology from the Greek eye.
LogosTheos 1 year ago
@LogosTheos Thats your opinion - if you want to believe that i cant stop you - regardless, i know the Messiah was a Jewish man, i believe in the God of Israel, I believe in the Promise made to Abraham - I am a Jew inwardly - I dont read scriptures through "Greek glasses" like you supposedly think we should. I read them through Hebraic glasses, which is proper exegesis whether you like it or not. a Greek Eye is nonsense - but follow the JEWISH MESSIAH with a GREEK EYE if you want.
markpaghi 1 year ago
@markpaghi, Psalm 35:22-23, Yahweh, you have seen this; do not be silent. Do not be far from me, Lord. 23 Awake, and rise to my defense! Contend for me, my God and Lord
UH????????? David JUST CALLED Kurios and Theos (reading from Septuagint)
John 20:28, Thomas said to him(Jesus), “My Lord and my God!”
BAHAHAAAH!!!
LogosTheos 1 year ago
@LogosTheos OK? Did dyou even read what i wrote earlier? Gen 32:4 = my lord Esau - kurios ESAU. Im not gonna sit here and keep showing you how kurios and theos are regular words used for humans and God. Psalm 35:24 - read kurios and theos as well - but it is NOT the same as Verse 23 - LORD and God in Verse 24 is YAHuwah and Elohim as opposed to V.23 which is adonoy. Emphatic form of Adon. Exodus 7:1 - moses is a god to pharaoh - hebrew reads mosheh rawaw nawthan Elohim paro.
markpaghi 1 year ago
@markpaghi, And you have not responded to my challenge with sastisfactory. Give me a scholary source that says KURIOS is not used in place of YHVH in the Greek Septuagint, remember this wasn't a Christian translation because it was translated before Christ by Hellenistic Jews.
LogosTheos 1 year ago
@LogosTheos If your version says I have made you Like God to pharaoh it is wrong - the hebrew says i have made you (a) god to pharaoh. Read Psalm 8:5 - you have made him a little lower then the angels - angels is Elohim in hebrew - same as in Exod 7:1. Your greek LXX reads Angellos. Psalm 82:6 - You are gods, Sons of the Most High - LXX reads THEOS. Now read Luke 6:35 - you will be Sons of the Most High. Gen 31:30 - why did you steal my gods? - THEOS. Theos/angellos and Kurios are GENERAL WORDS.
markpaghi 1 year ago
@markpaghi, YOU SAID: Psalm 35:24 - read kurios and theos as well - but it is NOT the same as Verse 23 - LORD and God in Verse 24 is YAHuwah and Elohim as opposed to V.23.
I PREVIOUSLY SAID: Ἰησοῦς κύριος - (Lord Jesus), when speaking of Christ κύριος becomes divine and when referring to other individuals in context it is not.
So you are proving my point unnoticeably. The Septuagint was translated by Jews before Christ and Kurios was the equivalent of Yahweh AND NOT GENERAL.
LogosTheos 1 year ago
@markpaghi Is jesus not the messaih then???
thomasbryn1 1 year ago
@thomasbryn1 Yahushuwah, not jesus, is the Messiah - Mashiach - Anointed one of YHWH.
markpaghi 1 year ago
@LogosTheos I already showed you John 17:5 and 17:22 - the glory you have given me I have GIVEN THEM - I wont argue anymore about that nonsense - John 17:3 is clear enough the Father is the Only True God - says the Messiah - if you dont follow him you wont believe his words. I also showed you how he says I - personal pronoun singular - therefore only ONE person is speaking - even the trinity cannot be "proven" with this - only the Father is speaking, so by your def. only the Father has glory.
markpaghi 1 year ago
@markpaghi, Wherever YHVH and Elohim is used in the Masoretic text, Kurios is used in the Septuagint text. And Θεóς/theos is not the equivalent of Elohim because it is slightly flexible and can be used for Lord also. So don't tell me Kurios is not a divine name in koine greek since Hellenistic Jews used "Kurios" in translation of YHVH instead of theos.
LogosTheos 1 year ago
@LogosTheos Im not even going to get into Masoretic and Ancient Hebrew - that doesnt matter - Kurios like i said is Adon - Kurios is not a divine name - if you think that you are blind - Acts 16:30 - Sirs = kurios, Matt 27:63 - Sir = kurios, John 4:11 - sir=kurios, John 20:15 - sir = kurios, Rev 7:14 - sir=kurios - Etc Etc. Unless you want to believe people called Everyone a "Divine Name" then go ahead. Obviously Greek isnt the same as Hebrew - therefore they only had Kurios as opposed to hebrew
markpaghi 1 year ago
@LogosTheos Can you tell me what Sus means in latin?
markpaghi 1 year ago
@markpaghi, NICE TRY, John 17:5 is not a parallel with John 17:22. Because glory is used in a different context in each passage. John 17:4 is actually the parellel because this glory is based off the works the Father gave Jesus on Earth to accomplish which are the same works he has given to the disciples to speard the gospel. In John 17:5, to give you a different context of glory Jesus says " glorify me in your own presence WITH THE GLORY that I had with you before the world existed.
LogosTheos 1 year ago
@LogosTheos Yes it is a parallel - the entire passage is a parallel between the Messiah and his Disciples. John 17:3 - the Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD, 17:8 - I have given them the Words YOU GAVE ME. 17:11- that they may be One as We are One. 17:14 - they are not of this world just as I am not of this world. 17:22 - the glory you have given me I have GIVEN THEM. 17:24 - PAY ATTENTION - glory you have given me because YOU LOVED ME BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD - EPH 1:4.
markpaghi 1 year ago
@markpaghi, That's it? You just dust and sweep off my points like that? The NT is written in Greek and originally in Greek by hellenistic influence (excluding Matthew). Ἰησοῦς κύριος - (Lord Jesus) when speaking of Christ κύριος becomes divine and when referring to other individuals in context it is not. This is why I brought up the Greek Septuagint(LXX) which you keep ignoring. Greek eye (LXX) with Greek eye (NT). I challenge you to show me that κύριος is not used for YHVH in the Septuagint.
LogosTheos 1 year ago
@LogosTheos Matt 15:14.
markpaghi 1 year ago
@neronei Zec 6:12 - You say somehow proves Yahshua is Yahweh? 1Cor 15:25-28 - God has put all things under Messiah's feet, but when it says All Things, it is Plain that GOD is excluded from being under Yahshua, then when all things are subjected to Yahshua, he himself will be subjected to GOD so that GOD may be All in All. V.24 - When Messiah delivers the kingdom to GOD - Yahweh will Rule Over ALL. Isaiah 66:23. If you believe Yahshua is Flesh (Luke 24:39) Then ALL flesh includes Yahshua.
markpaghi 1 year ago
You are right my DEAR MAN because God is the HEAD of CHRIST 1Cor11:3, because Christ is God in Fullness as in Col 1:19,2:9.In Rev 21:23 we see this in full compiment where Christ is God in fullness of God and submited to Him. He is the IMAGE the EXACT REPRESENTATION of God (Col1:15, Heb 1:3) It is obvious that God cannot be put under Christs feet for God is the HEAD of that BODY.
But what are you saying that Yeshua is not flesh now? He is that flesh glorified Lk24:39,Jn 20:19-20
neronei 1 year ago
@neronei Precisely - there is no disagreement. I am saying Yahshua is glorified flesh - but what are YOU saying? I am agreed - and the scriptures agree - but how this proves a trinity i am not aware. But this is Truth at face value.
markpaghi 1 year ago
@neronei Jn 14:9-10 speaks of the Father and Yahshua. In John 17:3 - Yahshua said the Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD. So Yahshua was the instrument through whom GOD lived and spoke? So Yahshua is NOT God? So in other words - His Body is a separate person? If you said something, would you say "I said it" or "My body said it"? Your body is DUST and has no life without GOD breathing his Ruach into you. John 20:17 - was AFTER the resurrection - So he was raised in weakness? 1Cor 15:43
markpaghi 1 year ago
No Jn14:9-10 is God the Father speaking in FIRST person so He cannot be a instrument of God but only God in full person,because one that represents a King or nation can speak in FIRST PERSON as that King or Nation.We have to go a little back in that scripture in v7 Philip is wanting to phisically see the Father and the Father in person answers Him rebuking Him for His ignorance in V9+10. So Yeshua is God whom is Spirit, in Flesh as stated in Heb 1:3,and confirmed in Jm 2:26, Ef4:4-6,Rev21:23 !!!
neronei 1 year ago
@neronei It is clear to me that you dont know what youre teaching - and with that being the case you need to just stop trying to make up answers or looking up answers on youtube - You can say whatever you want, but at the end of the Day - You realize that you dont really Know. I would admit this to GOD and stop trying to teach confusing things that contradict themselves. If you teach False Doctrines willingly you are a false Prophet, dont let that happen to you.
markpaghi 1 year ago
It is clear to me that you dont understand the Word or vision of God as in 1Cor2:11, and seeing that I have answered you by the Word and meaning of that Word that you are spiritualy DUMB to these meanings.Open your eyes to the Word and your mind to the SPIRIT of Yeshua,and take away those brain washing notions that you have memorized and not meditated,that the INC and simular doctrines have given,saying that Yeshua is a NORMAL HUMAN and not GOD, that just found grace from God! Shame on you!
neronei 1 year ago
@neronei I am not brainwashed. I am not dumb. I WAS brainwashed - which is what the church does - they Indoctrinate you into beliefs - like the trinity, fiery hell, immortal soul, etc. This happens BEFORE you read the bible - that way you interpret the bible wrong. You are wrong - I meditated on the scripures a long time - many nights of studying - many hours of mediating in my heart and mind - many prayers to Yahweh - much work - and MUCH Joy has he given me Through Messiah.
markpaghi 1 year ago
@markpaghi, I'm looking at other objections you raised and they all have the same misconception that the Son = Father. Psalm 35:23, Awake, and rise to my defense! Contend for me, my God and Lord. John 20:28, Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
You cannot impose inconsistency on the text, The Bible affirms without doubt the Deity of Christ and also affirms that Christ is seperate from the Father. This is where the "Trinity" comes from which can reconcile Isaiah 42:8 and John 17:5
LogosTheos 1 year ago
@LogosTheos That is because the trinity teaches they are both God - if you want to be foolish and say they are separate that is your choice - if the Father is God and the son is God - the Father is the Son - otherwise they are not both GOD. Or you have polytheism. Psalm 25 - OK. John 20:28 - OK. The bible does not affirm the "deity of christ" which you mean Messiah NOT christ. Trinity comes from pagan philosophy - just look up teachings of NeoPlatonism and you will find every trinity Word there.
markpaghi 1 year ago
@markpagh, JESUS IS GOD NOT THE FATHER! TRINITARIANS NEVER BELIEVED THAT!! Jesus and the Father are a working unity and since Jesus is worthy of worship as the Father is(John 17:5), sits at the RIGHT HAND OF GOD and is one in will with the father THEY ARE ONE GOD NOT TWO GODS! You are the polotheist here not me, HOW CAN YOU WORSHIP THE MESSIAH IF HE IS JUST A MAN? TWO GODS? HAHAHA
LogosTheos 1 year ago
@LogosTheos Isaiah 42:8 does NOT prove a trinity - What does the Word "I" mean - does that signify ME or more then one person? God said, I will not give my glory to another - Now only ONE person is speaking here - and if indeed God is a triune God then ONLY the Father is speaking - in which case you can say Gen 1:26 is an example of The Three persons speaking to each other - but in Isaiah 42:8 - ONLY ONE person is Speaking - I is a personal singular pronoun - so Either way..cont..
markpaghi 1 year ago
@LogosTheos Either way you have the FATHER saying I will not give my glory to another. Which would include any other person EXCEPT the ONE who is speaking. This doesnt prove a trinity - but this is how you interpreted this verse. and you added John 17:5, which two verse before the messiah says the FATHER is the ONLY TRUE GOD. Then in verse 5 it proves a trinity? Weak - strawman - ambiguous - implicit - hidden meanings - IT gets old. Right in verse 6 the messiah says "I have manifested your name.
markpaghi 1 year ago
@LogosTheos John 17:6 - Now what is the Name of the Father who is God - YHWH - obviously the name of God cant be Yahushua and YHWH at the same time - the Jews knew the name of God is YHWH - Joshua the messiah is obviously not God. Now read John 17:22 - The glory you have GIVEN ME I HAVE GIVEN THEM. - Your argument is weak and strawman biased - we receive the SAME GLORY the GOD GAVE YAHUSHUA and HE GAVE US. - You need to stop spreading pagan Lies before you come under judgment.
markpaghi 1 year ago
@RSMJ15 You just said God was born? Then you said his name is Yashua? The name of God i thought was Yahweh?
markpaghi 1 year ago
Half my message has been cut off. It was a message of love and gratitude to the Jewish people for what we who believe in Jesus have received through their faithfulness to God and an expression of happiness that so many now understand more about Jesus. Please know that real Christians have a real love for the Jewish people.
lebongo2 1 year ago
@lebongo2 : you only get to put 500 characters (letter) in a message. Put in two messages or 3!
lambsev 1 year ago
I have been Christian all my life, and was brought up to understand that Jesus was Jewish and came to the Jewish people first. Many Jewish people did accept Him then, including the apostles and thousands who followed Him or heard the apostles preaching after His resurrection. Originally they tried to continue to attend the synagogue, but it is totally understandable that some had difficulty accepting them. If Jesus had come humbly amongst us, we should understand that it was a huge thing to bel
lebongo2 1 year ago
Shalom to all the people of God.
In deed, God works in a way we cannot compherend. Through Jesus Christ who came and died for our sin, we are call the child of God.
1Cor 1:18 For the message about the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
Sakura090910 1 year ago
the writting Jesus used to open my eyes is - Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily
Col 2:8-9; I am a Jew by blood line and now a Jew by BLOOD in the Name . To the only wise God our Saviour(JESUS), be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
Jude 1:25 (KJV)
314159mr 1 year ago
This people are liars!human can never be God!!the God almighty is the unseen God not the one who died on the crossed AND CAN NEVER GET KILLED.our prophet Jesus has been taken away to heaven and the guy who were killed were a jews whom always making fun of jesus during their friendhood..God deceives jews view at that very moment and replaced that man instead of jesus!May our only GOD show u guidance very soon!
surinamohdramli 1 year ago
Yeshua says "Don't you know Me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? that is He was the unseen God and Father of all in FLESH!Jn 14:9-10
Then in all the other various parts of the New Testament Paul and all the rest of apostles show that He is the almighty God in flesh as in Rom 9:5 and in Col 2:9
May our only GOD show you guidance very soon!
neronei 1 year ago
@neronei Interesting how you make no references to the Tanach. So if Yashua is GOD why didnt he just come out and say it. Why does it have to be ambiguous and confusing speech?
markpaghi 1 year ago
Where do I not make reference to the TANACH? Yeshua in Isa 7:14 and 9:6 is clearly shown as GOD ALMIGHTY !!! Why did He not say it openly? Well He did but in a way that those that wanted God would reconize Him but those that did not were condemed as not being with God, for not all Israel is Israel(1Kings 19:18). In Mat 13:10-15 we see this clearly. But in Jn 8:58,10:30 and 14:9-10 He clearly shows Himself as GOD ALMIGHTY for this they wanted to kill Him!
neronei 1 year ago
@neronei Isaiah 7:14 and 9:6. Is that it? There should be all the prophecies about the Messiah in the Tanach. Where is Isaiah 9:6 applied to Yahshua in the NT? Usually when we see prophecy fulfilled they state it, like Matt 13:35 - Spoken of by the prophet that it might be fulfilled. We can assume this is Yahshua but we no one applied this to Him in the NT. Then you go back to John. There was NO John in Yahshuas day - Luke 24:44 - Torah, Prophets, Psalms Yahshua said Clearly.
markpaghi 1 year ago
OH you wanted all the prophesies of Yeshua in the Tanach !!! This shows that you cannot follow a simple biblical argument with the word of God.Just because Isa 9:6 is not quoted by the gospels or apostles does not mean it is not a prophesy of Yeshua as Messia.This means that Gen3:15, Isa11:1-2, Jer 23:5 and many others that are not quoted are not valid as Yeshua? Isa 9:7 conferms that it is Yeshua because it is only Yeshua the Son of David that sits on His throne forever as in 2Sam7:13-14.
neronei 1 year ago
@neronei OK once can use discernment and reason that God gave them to see if a prophecy fits the messiah or not - once again - Isaiah 9:6 - According to the trinity the Father is NOT the son, this doesnt prove a trinity. You have TWO options in this case - You can say the Father doesnt mean he is God the Father but is rather referring to him being father much like abraham (jews said he is our father). On the other hand, if you dont say that, you CANNOT say GOD refers to him being YHWH - simple.
markpaghi 1 year ago
" There was NO John in Yahshuas day ??????" What are you SAYING dear MAN ???? And you call me a false prophet !!!! You dont know where to start or end which shows that you are confused !!!
neronei 1 year ago
@neronei Yes there was no John - this is the written account of John - it didnt exist in Yahushuas day - you can call me whatever you want - truth is still truth - you keep going to John over and over again - Obviously John had the Tanach - but you seem to use John over the Tanach - which is what we are told to test what we hear by. The holy scriptures in that day were what? The Tanach - The bereans tested what they were told by the TANACH - Yahushua said The scriptures (Tanach) spoke of HIM.
markpaghi 1 year ago
@markpaghi, By the grace of God answer this objection, how can you reconcile Isaiah 42:8 and John 17:5 without a trinitarian view? You never answered it
LogosTheos 1 year ago
@surinamohdramli No Christian believe God is a human. God is a spirit the spirit became flesh while on earth but he still was spirit in heaven at the same time. I have a question. If Jesus was just only the Messiah and the Jews known that he was the Messiah and if he was teaching the Torah and believe he was sent from God why did they wanted to kill him.
hardnard5 1 year ago
@surinamohdramli Shalom to all the people of God.
In deed, God works in a way we cannot compherend. Through Jesus Christ who came and died for our sin, we are call the child of God.
1Cor 1:18 For the message about the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
Sakura090910 1 year ago
@Sakura090910 Since you cannot comprehend it, it must be like foolishness to you. That must mean you are perishing?
markpaghi 1 year ago
GOD IS OUR EVERYTHING!!! WITHOUT HIM WAS NOTHING MADE THAT WAS MADE!!!
HE IS THE ONLY GOD!!! FOR BESIDES HIM THERE IS NO GOD!!
The reason why people could ever doubt such a GREAT AND POWERFUL GOD, IS BECAUSE HE IS SOOO BEYOND OUR UNDERSTANDING!! :):)
faith33able 1 year ago
Amen Yeshua Gesù ti benedica.
neronei 1 year ago
@faith33able If he is beyond our understanding then how can you understand Who or What you believe In?
markpaghi 1 year ago
What you have just seen on the screen is the "GNOSTIC 'JESUS'".
Jesus was a creature, not the Creator.
Jesus was the anointed, not the Anointer.
Jesus did not prepare his own earthly body ... THE ONLY ONE TRUE GOD ALMIGHTY DID.
Jesus (Yeshua) is NOT GOD, was NOT GOD, and NEVER WILL BE GOD.
GOD DID NOT INHABIT A PYSICAL BODY. A servant of God willingly BECAME flesh and blood like we are.
NICE TRY ... BUT THE GNOSTIC JESUS is a defilement of the truth of God's word.
loveroflife365 2 years ago
Where does it say that in the Bible?
servant4JC 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 . You would be wrong cause scripture states that God was manifested in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16) and also that In the beginning the word was God, and the Word became flesh and dwelt among me(John 1:1,14) Jesus being the flesh, and if Jesus is the Word made flesh and the Word is God, then Jesus Christ is God!
Colossians 1:16 states that by Jesus was all things created, stating in fact that Jesus is the creator, Genesis 1 says God created the heavens... so Jesus must be God!
cloventongues85 1 year ago
@cloventongues85 I Tim. 3:16 "... godliness (not God) was manifest ..." The "logos" of John 1:1 is God's tangible communication (spoken), the vehicle of creation and NOT A PERSON. Col. 1 is a testament to the preeminence of Jesus Christ, that he is the firstborn from the DEAD and that by or because of him, God created all things. Jesus is NOT GOD.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 jesus died for nothing im going to hell because jesus was just a man. ok now im going to buy a lamb and bleed it on an alter wait i need a temple but theirs a mosque over the temple oh and im not jewish , wait jesus rased the dead heald the sick and turned water to wine and in the bible he stated he thought it not robbery to be equal to god,ok im rusty and god has spoken through the profits and in the last days he will speek through his son through who he created the worlds
jntdavis97 1 year ago
@jntdavis97 The Bible teaches that God is One, Deut 6:4. The One God is the Father, I Cor 8:6. This One God has a begotten Son who we know as the Messiah, or Jesus. The Messiah is the Son of the One God. God requires the shedding of blood, life for life, for the remission of sin, Heb 9:22. God is spirit. But there was one who was willing to give his life and die in the place of all men. Jesus COULD do that. God could NOT do that because he is inherently immortal, I Tim. 6:16.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@jntdavis97 Moses did a lot of miracles - Was he God? Moses was called God in Exod 7:1 - IS he Yahweh? Judges are called Gods in Psalm 82:6, 138:1, - is this Polytheism? I know a mexican guy named Immanuel - Does that mean he is God incarnate?
markpaghi 1 year ago
@cloventongues85 Are you trying to say the Word of God is Yahshua. Read the Tanach (OT) and tell me what the Word of God is. Not only that - Lets use your logic - In the beginning was Yahshua, and Yahshua was with the Father, and Yahshua WAS the Father. SO Yahshua is the Father, he is the Son of himself, of the Father of himself, however you want to put it. John 1:14 - And Yahshua became flesh and dwelt among us....the only son from the Father. But V.1 says he IS the Father, so which is it?
markpaghi 1 year ago
Blessed be Yeshua haMassiah for having mercy on me a sinner, and the scum of the earth...I will speak of His majesty as long as I have breath in me, Blessed you again for this video. It lifted my spirit...I can listen to it over and over again.......Shalom
hammerandnails777 2 years ago 9
@hammerandnails777 IF Yahshua is the Mashiach - the anointed one - Who anointed Him? In Isaiah 45:1 - why is Cyrus called the Mashiach as well, why is Saul an anointed one, why is David an anointed one? Who anointed David, Saul, Cyrus, Yahshua, etc. Who put His Spirit upon these People? Isaiah 61, Acts 10:38.
markpaghi 1 year ago
In the name of Allah, the Compassionate one, the Compassionate one!
Certainly, the Religion, for Allah, is the Islam. Those to whom the Writing was given did not object some to others, for mutual rebelliousness, but after having received the Science. The one who does not believe in Allah's signs... Allah is rapid in accounts(bills) fit.
yassineahkam 2 years ago
Jesus is the Lamb of G-d no the Lion. The Lamb symbolized the purity of his Levitical priesthood being that he was a Levite born of the Mary the Levite and not a "Jew"/of the tribe of Judah. (Luke 1:36)
meak911 2 years ago
Amen.Yes Yeshua was Levite from His Mother's side, but and being the firstborn in the marriage of Joseph and Mary He inherites the line of David, the Throne of Judah and of Israel from Joseph's side.He is therefore the LION OF JUDAH as to His inheritance as prophesized by ISRAEL (Jacob) in Gen 49:8-12 especially the v10 "The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. Yeshua bless you.
neronei 2 years ago
Blessed be the name of the Lord Yeshua haMassiah..!!!
God bless you for this video!!
hammerandnails777 2 years ago 3
@neronei: Good answer.
"But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers. God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."
(John 4:23-24)
BreshiBaraElohim 1 year ago
Amen. Yeshua bless you greatly.
neronei 1 year ago
@meak911 PHIL. 2:5-11 PERFECTLY.
THE PASSAGE IS CLEAR, AND HARMONIZES WITH:
Hebrews 10:5 (KJV)
5 Wherefore when HE COMETH INTO THE WORLD, "HE" (GOD THE WORD) saith, Sacrifice and offering THOU (GOD THE FATHER) wouldest not, but a BODY (THE SON) hast THOU (GOD THE FATHER) prepared ME: (GOD THE WORD)
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
Comment removed
jr7495 2 years ago
Sing it out loud !!!!
Amen!
neronei 2 years ago
Comment removed
jr7495 2 years ago
@jr7495 I swear that you lie...
There is no mas god that allah and yeshua is his messenger
yassineahkam 2 years ago
Beautiful, Beautiful, Beautiful,
There is no other feeling in the world like the feeling of worship. Blessings to you all and Prayers always.
2Bibleppl 2 years ago
As it is written in Rev. 19:10 "....worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."
This is the truth as confirmed in Jn 4:24.
Amen !!!
neronei 2 years ago
@neronei So are you saying Yahshua is Spirit now? So he wasnt really Human? Luke 24:39 - Yashua denies he is spirit. 1John 4:2-3 says whoever confessed Messiah came in the Flesh (meaning was Human NOT spirit) is of God, whoever denies it is not of God. The gnostics taught Yahshua was a spirit, not a real human, therefore He did not die or get resurrected because he wasnt a mortal.
markpaghi 1 year ago
Don't twist my words.I have said in all the video that Yeshua,is GOD,whom is a SPIRIT (Jn 4:24) Whom made Himself flesh.But when He went into heaven (Acts 1:11) and sat on the throne in the upmost height of creation called ZAPHON (Isa 14:13;Rev 3:21) He then sends back His Holy Spirit on the earth upon His CHURCH (Acts1:4,8).Therefore He is God Almighty in real human flesh, born of a woman,died and resurrected in that SAME FLESH, and now glorified in heaven. One Spirit in One Flesh - Eph 4:4-6
neronei 1 year ago
Hallelujah!!!!!!!
Jacki79 2 years ago
AMEN !!!
Just sing that out to the Lord YESHUA
neronei 2 years ago
AMEN!!!
WolfWolfLover1 2 years ago
AMEN!!! Praise the holy sweet blessed name of Y'SHUA ha MESSIAH!!! AMEN!!! Beautiful, just beautiful! ELOHIM bless you always. <(^8
netta2158 2 years ago
To Yeshua be the glory
Amen.
neronei 2 years ago
I agree with this, Jesus is the Lord, wether you like it or not, He reigns, and anybody better get ready for his coming.
Ch1993ris 2 years ago 3
Amen !!!
neronei 2 years ago
Holy, holy, holy, LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, which was, and is, and is to come.rev;4;8. thank YOU JESUS.
THEKINGMRMIGHTY 2 years ago 2