@Anime998877 Nope, Kimi clearly lead the whole race until that point and would have won if it didnt start raining. For many of us Kimi is the true winner of spa 08, not Massa or Hamilton
@Anime998877 Hamilton didnt slow enough when he had cut through that corner but instead just barely let Kimi pass....thus he rightfully got the penalty and lost the win.
@Balnazzardi - LOL i always hear the same thing when talking about hamilton's penalty at spa 08 from kimi fans. The rules only say to give back the position, that's it! Hamilton lifted to give kimi back the position but then stepped on the throttle quickly so as not to lose momentum. The only thing that should matter is that Hamilton cut the corner unfairly but then gave back the position - nothing more. So why the penalty?
@Anime998877 the judges saw it in the way, that he still gained too much advantage and didnt slow down enough...anyways it's pointless to argue over about it anymore, especially when Ham won the championship that year
@Balnazzardi - The judges saw it in that way but that doesn't change the fact that it was ridiculous, and that Hamilton clearly deserved to win it. I have my own theory about the penalty, it was simply a blatant championship showdown fixing so Hamilton wouldn't run away with the title and the poor ferrari drivers would have a chance. But yes good thing Hamilton won in the end though. I'm not even a lewis fan, so when i defend him it should mean something.
by the way, renault team name was RENAULT GP because want to follow MERCEDES GP .. but PROTON from MALAYSIA was bought the GROUP LOTUS and SPONSOR the team RENAULT GP and becoming LOTUS RENAULT.. but the default name still RENAULT GP and LOTUS name just main sponsor like PETRONAS.. but GROUP LOTUS was blame TEAM LOTUS because using name of LOTUS without permission, thats why TONY FERNANDES decide give up the case and bought CATERHAM to the F1 :)
@MrHollabk actually it is LOTUS RENAULT, clearly you don't actually know anything about F1. LOTUS is the car name, RENAULT the engine supplier. So that makes them LOTUS RENAULT. Just like FORCE INDIA is FORCE INDIA MERCEDES. Its the team name then the engine supplier. As you don't know F1 here are more examples, RED BULL RENAULT, McLAREN MERCEDES. FERRARI and MERCEDES are the name and engine supplier so have just one name. Im glad i can educate you on F1, And hope you watch the sport next year.
@zepiti1 it's LOTUS RENAULT!!!! Do you not follow F1 unless a race is on?? if you follow F1 (which means even now during pre-season) you would see kimi and roman wearing the teams clothing, which say's...... LOTUS RENAULT!!!
@steve37533 No they dropped the Renault, It's just Lotus F1 team (in season 2012). Red Bull is Red Bull Racing And Mclaren is Vodafone Mclaren Mercedes. Oh, I don't watch the races, since I can't see them live. I do follow them at gpupdate dot com, and I read the F1 news there daily.
@zepiti1 oh yeah!!! i should NOT watch f1 and then i will know more?? you really are stupid....saying to know a sport you shouldn't watch it. While you are waiting for the race to finish to READ the race, i actually watch the race and quali and practice and everything in between....that's what REAL F1 fans do!!!
@zepiti1 well as i do watch everything f1 related (also read any blogs/tweets/facebook messages) from the TEAMS!! And if you really follow the sport, you should know LOTUS will be called LOTUS F1 but on any official timing pages, articles, they will be called LOTUS RENAULT. Team name AND engine supplier.
@zepiti1 well done!!! really well done, YES the TEAM name is LOTUS...however in f1 the full name is team name (LOTUS) and the engine supplier (RENAULT) TOGETHER!!! most people will just call a team the team name in this case LOTUS F1...if you really are stupid here is some more examples....RED BULL are called RED BULL, however the full name is RED BULL RENAULT... still confused?? ok, MCLAREN are called MCLAREN, however there full name is MCLAREN MERCEDES.. hope you follow F1 this year.....
@Inhumanity88 Yeah, literally around the next corner, 20 seconds later he puts it in a wall. Was an amazing fight between Hamilton and Raikkonen, unbelieveable that Hamilton got a 25 second penalty though. It really shows how biast the FIA are. (In my opinion.)
@TeamLotusGT5 Yeah, completely cutting a chicane is completely fair. Every driver should just be allowed to cut corners and just drive straight through run offs. That would be fantastic in Monza, first chicane. Fuck it, go straight through.
@IrishRu5T Im sorry, did you actually watch the race? Hamilton used the run off area because they would have crashed if not. He also then let him back through, and then continued to attack.
@TeamLotusGT5 I was at the race actually. Was seated at the incline just before Eau Rouge. Watched the replay when I got home ofc. If YOU actually watch the race, he got an an advantage from cutting the chicane. He got a much greater run out of the corner, considering Raikkonen was accelerating from a much lesser initial velocity.
@IrishRu5T Well I do actually, and I know that if you let someone through on a straight, as in actually braking and getting BEHIND the other guy, you are not at an advantage.
You know it's true, yet you still argue. Pretty pathetic.
@TeamLotusGT5 Wasnt coming off a straight,was a chicane son.Probably the bus stop or before Pouhon,all he did was lift-not brake.Besides,he was behind Raikkonen before the chicane,+ the gap when he started accelerating again wasa big difference. I'll make some numbers up to help your miniscule brain it seems. Gap before chicane=20m.Gap after:5m.Also,Hamilton lifted so he was still going with uniform V.Kimi was accel.from a low initial U,e.g.10ms.Now its a simple overtaking Eqn.
@IrishRu5T The chicane that Hamilton had to cut, as he was around the outside of Kimi SIDE BY SIDE and Kimi was giving him no room, was Bus Stop. That chicane, as I am sure you know, comes onto the pit straight. That is where he let him through.
@TeamLotusGT5 he got the penalty as the rules state you must let the driver back through and can not overtake for one corner...hamilton took the position back straight away, and did not wait till after one corner. So he did deserve the penalty.
It was lucky too, he got an armful of oversteer just before hamilton ran wide, if he didnt run wide he would have shunted into the back of him. But if anybody got lucky it was Massa, he ended up winning after Kimi crashed out and Lewis got a penalty.
you know that he's a great driver when he manages to overtake two cars in one corner.. in the wet... at Spa... too bad he crashed in the next corner... really hoping he'd come back to F1 next year..
@keytek9 Hahaha crazy Kimi fan!! Rosberg forced Lewis off, Kimi was in the right place at the right time!! Also, Rosberg was a lap down! Gosh, Kimi has so many better overtakes, why do they have to display one where he overtakes a guy a lap down who is supposed to move over?!
@TuneViper Kimi could have gone off the track, like Lewis. But Kimi decided to go inside, and he avoided Rosberg at the same second ! It was the most difficult choice ...
2012 Return of the Champ!
Homer0Simpson 1 week ago 2
@Homer0Simpson The Chimp*
Akugagi 20 hours ago
Räikkönen öntötäkyy eeta pylly myyraislaitela illo re dyy böteet.
Zarniwooper 2 weeks ago
Kimi at SPA is fucking amazing!
7stefan7vn 4 weeks ago
I already did it..
Jaykay442 1 month ago
No he didn't, in fact he didn't deserve the title at all
8911145533 1 month ago
Lol this is a lucky overtake, and he spins twice in the same lap, the second time he doesn't get away with it.. Hamilton deserved spa 08.
Anime998877 1 month ago
@Anime998877 Nope, Kimi clearly lead the whole race until that point and would have won if it didnt start raining. For many of us Kimi is the true winner of spa 08, not Massa or Hamilton
Balnazzardi 3 weeks ago
@Balnazzardi - Hamilton crossed the line first after 44 laps. Hamilton was the true winner of spa 2008.
Anime998877 2 weeks ago
@Anime998877 Hamilton didnt slow enough when he had cut through that corner but instead just barely let Kimi pass....thus he rightfully got the penalty and lost the win.
Balnazzardi 2 weeks ago
@Balnazzardi - LOL i always hear the same thing when talking about hamilton's penalty at spa 08 from kimi fans. The rules only say to give back the position, that's it! Hamilton lifted to give kimi back the position but then stepped on the throttle quickly so as not to lose momentum. The only thing that should matter is that Hamilton cut the corner unfairly but then gave back the position - nothing more. So why the penalty?
Anime998877 2 weeks ago
@Anime998877 the judges saw it in the way, that he still gained too much advantage and didnt slow down enough...anyways it's pointless to argue over about it anymore, especially when Ham won the championship that year
Balnazzardi 2 weeks ago
@Balnazzardi - The judges saw it in that way but that doesn't change the fact that it was ridiculous, and that Hamilton clearly deserved to win it. I have my own theory about the penalty, it was simply a blatant championship showdown fixing so Hamilton wouldn't run away with the title and the poor ferrari drivers would have a chance. But yes good thing Hamilton won in the end though. I'm not even a lewis fan, so when i defend him it should mean something.
Anime998877 2 weeks ago
SPA + Raikkonen = Overpower
MrRegical 1 month ago
@kptk 92 i think, the biggest cutter was hamilton, when two times cut the corner :)
iVodafone 1 month ago
he is A star
abbasimyolcu 1 month ago
What a lucky man!!!
GabrielArapiraca 1 month ago
the only amazing about this is the amount of luck he had :D
CptCumshot 2 months ago
He's washed up.....
pimpedvw 2 months ago
first of all, this is not overtaking... this is luck...
second, he crashed about 30 seconds later...
davorsertic 2 months ago
@everyone. Who cares? He's back! He could be driving a Corolla for I care. xD
MoNercy 2 months ago
its just lotus
135RHYS 2 months ago
soz guys - don't get it
toodsf1 2 months ago
by the way, renault team name was RENAULT GP because want to follow MERCEDES GP .. but PROTON from MALAYSIA was bought the GROUP LOTUS and SPONSOR the team RENAULT GP and becoming LOTUS RENAULT.. but the default name still RENAULT GP and LOTUS name just main sponsor like PETRONAS.. but GROUP LOTUS was blame TEAM LOTUS because using name of LOTUS without permission, thats why TONY FERNANDES decide give up the case and bought CATERHAM to the F1 :)
afiqhanifah 2 months ago
Bloody hell
vanquisher258 2 months ago
"i was having a shit"
grytoria 2 months ago
That battle with Lewis was great :)
22kaka22gerrard 2 months ago
Unfortunately, in WRC school it's just the lesson one!!
cancianrally 2 months ago
I was completely mad when he span & crashed into the wall........
DominarTyranT1 2 months ago
that is why he is the ice man
camiel221 2 months ago
thats like a double headshot in the FPS world xD
OMGz1122 2 months ago
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JacksAss10 2 months ago
Vettel 1st place in 2012
Raikkonen 2nd place in 2012!
point difference - 1 point
naruto9500 2 months ago
@naruto9500 Turn that upside down and it's right.
Uselessfull1 2 months ago
@naruto9500 right !!!!! :D
maurizio864 2 months ago
Amazing move, until he stuffed it into the wall a lap later!
frankietiddles 2 months ago 38
You cut out the part where he spins seconds later
kptk92 2 months ago 21
i cant understand why this motion is amazing.
GalaxyPowerTy 3 months ago
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JacksAss10 2 months ago
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@GalaxyPowerTy 1st of all, you DO know how hard it is to controll your racecar on a wet track? he did it quite well in this video, don't you think?
2nd, he's Kimi Räikkönen god damnit
JacksAss10 2 months ago
Good thing you didn't show what happened next. lol
Rosvolainen 3 months ago 2
wtf is wrong with the mclaren
n33dw33d3333 3 months ago
@n33dw33d3333 It Rained but Hamilton(McLaren) hat Dry Tyres like Kimi....
FelixSonntag 3 months ago
Wait - I don't get it. Where's the amazing overtake?
toodsf1 3 months ago
der ICEMAN is BACK!!!!!!!
termiz6 3 months ago 3
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It's official - the Iceman cometh back to F1 in 2012 with Lotus-Renault GP!!
Ozymandias916 3 months ago
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Ozymandias916 3 months ago
Kimi Hell Yeah show Vettel how its really done! 8)
RKOEdgeOrtonRKO 3 months ago
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welcome back kimi in lotus gp 2012!
massblast92 3 months ago
You miss the next 5 sec where kimi is spinning :D
rfn95 3 months ago
THE ICEMAN IS BACK!
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DTLEngage 3 months ago 2
i am from finland this race is shit
TheBazooka120 3 months ago
HE IS BACK!!!!! WITH RENAULT!!!!!
steve37533 3 months ago 32
@steve37533
Wrong! It's Lotus dude.
soreTsukiNoMe 3 months ago
@soreTsukiNoMe lotus renault to be correct.
steve37533 3 months ago
@soreTsukiNoMe No it
s Renault not Lotus.. Lotus next year is named Caterham. And Renault is named Lotus Renault :)
Racervang 3 months ago
@Racervang
The name Lotus Renault has already existed this year. Next year Lotus Renault will be Lotus F1 Team^^ It's written in Wikipedia.
soreTsukiNoMe 3 months ago
@soreTsukiNoMe LOTUS RENAULT is the new name of the former RENAULT team. And the LOTUS team will be called CATERHAM.
steve37533 2 months ago
@steve37533 no with lotus
Senj1n 2 months ago
@Senj1n LOTUS RENAULT to be precise.
steve37533 2 months ago
@steve37533 No, you are wrong.. It's just Lotus in 2012. Senj1n was right
MrHollabk 2 months ago
@MrHollabk actually it is LOTUS RENAULT, clearly you don't actually know anything about F1. LOTUS is the car name, RENAULT the engine supplier. So that makes them LOTUS RENAULT. Just like FORCE INDIA is FORCE INDIA MERCEDES. Its the team name then the engine supplier. As you don't know F1 here are more examples, RED BULL RENAULT, McLAREN MERCEDES. FERRARI and MERCEDES are the name and engine supplier so have just one name. Im glad i can educate you on F1, And hope you watch the sport next year.
steve37533 2 months ago 2
@steve37533
It's Lotus now.
Troll666pl 2 months ago
@Troll666pl your name is troll666pl......get a life.
steve37533 2 months ago
@steve37533
It's very good argumentation of you ...
This year it was Lotus Reanault GP, in 2012 Renault will be removed from official name of team. Engine will be still Renault of course.
Troll666pl 2 months ago
@Troll666pl exactly so its LOTUS the car name and RENAULT the engine supplier so......LOTUS RENAULT.
steve37533 2 months ago
@steve37533
To be precise, with added Engine's name: Lotus F1 Team Renault ...
Troll666pl 2 months ago
@Troll666pl LOTUS RENAULT now shut up as you clearly dont like F1.
steve37533 2 months ago
@steve37533 No more renault, just lotus.
zepiti1 1 month ago
@zepiti1 it's LOTUS RENAULT!!!! Do you not follow F1 unless a race is on?? if you follow F1 (which means even now during pre-season) you would see kimi and roman wearing the teams clothing, which say's...... LOTUS RENAULT!!!
steve37533 1 month ago
@steve37533 gpupdate(dot)net/en/f1-line-up/154/
zepiti1 1 month ago
@zepiti1 google the link
zepiti1 1 month ago
@zepiti1 ....and not just on a sunday!!!!
steve37533 1 month ago
@steve37533 No they dropped the Renault, It's just Lotus F1 team (in season 2012). Red Bull is Red Bull Racing And Mclaren is Vodafone Mclaren Mercedes. Oh, I don't watch the races, since I can't see them live. I do follow them at gpupdate dot com, and I read the F1 news there daily.
zepiti1 1 month ago
@zepiti1 you dont even WATCH the sport STFU!!!
steve37533 1 month ago
@steve37533 Fine but watching isn't the only way of following the sport.
zepiti1 1 month ago
@zepiti1 oh yeah!!! i should NOT watch f1 and then i will know more?? you really are stupid....saying to know a sport you shouldn't watch it. While you are waiting for the race to finish to READ the race, i actually watch the race and quali and practice and everything in between....that's what REAL F1 fans do!!!
steve37533 1 month ago
@steve37533 Do you think that I don't watch them because I don't want to? I just can't! If I could I would.
zepiti1 1 month ago
@zepiti1 well as i do watch everything f1 related (also read any blogs/tweets/facebook messages) from the TEAMS!! And if you really follow the sport, you should know LOTUS will be called LOTUS F1 but on any official timing pages, articles, they will be called LOTUS RENAULT. Team name AND engine supplier.
steve37533 1 month ago
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@zepiti1 google the link
zepiti1 1 month ago
@zepiti1 well done!!! really well done, YES the TEAM name is LOTUS...however in f1 the full name is team name (LOTUS) and the engine supplier (RENAULT) TOGETHER!!! most people will just call a team the team name in this case LOTUS F1...if you really are stupid here is some more examples....RED BULL are called RED BULL, however the full name is RED BULL RENAULT... still confused?? ok, MCLAREN are called MCLAREN, however there full name is MCLAREN MERCEDES.. hope you follow F1 this year.....
steve37533 1 month ago
This race was brilliant, wish Kimi won, would have been special to have 5 wins at Spa on the trot..
nitroboost8765 3 months ago 4
i seem to remember he spun on the exit of that corner????
merrick3822 3 months ago 4
@merrick3822 and he crashed later....but why isn't anyone saying this??
Inhumanity88 3 months ago
@Inhumanity88 Yeah, literally around the next corner, 20 seconds later he puts it in a wall. Was an amazing fight between Hamilton and Raikkonen, unbelieveable that Hamilton got a 25 second penalty though. It really shows how biast the FIA are. (In my opinion.)
TeamLotusGT5 3 months ago
@TeamLotusGT5 Yeah, completely cutting a chicane is completely fair. Every driver should just be allowed to cut corners and just drive straight through run offs. That would be fantastic in Monza, first chicane. Fuck it, go straight through.
/Sarcasm//
IrishRu5T 3 months ago
@IrishRu5T Im sorry, did you actually watch the race? Hamilton used the run off area because they would have crashed if not. He also then let him back through, and then continued to attack.
TeamLotusGT5 3 months ago
@TeamLotusGT5 I was at the race actually. Was seated at the incline just before Eau Rouge. Watched the replay when I got home ofc. If YOU actually watch the race, he got an an advantage from cutting the chicane. He got a much greater run out of the corner, considering Raikkonen was accelerating from a much lesser initial velocity.
IrishRu5T 3 months ago
@IrishRu5T He let him back through for God's sake! How can he gain an advantage if he let him back through on the next straight!?
TeamLotusGT5 3 months ago
@TeamLotusGT5 You've obviously never raced.....
IrishRu5T 3 months ago
@IrishRu5T Well I do actually, and I know that if you let someone through on a straight, as in actually braking and getting BEHIND the other guy, you are not at an advantage.
You know it's true, yet you still argue. Pretty pathetic.
TeamLotusGT5 3 months ago
@TeamLotusGT5 Wasnt coming off a straight,was a chicane son.Probably the bus stop or before Pouhon,all he did was lift-not brake.Besides,he was behind Raikkonen before the chicane,+ the gap when he started accelerating again wasa big difference. I'll make some numbers up to help your miniscule brain it seems. Gap before chicane=20m.Gap after:5m.Also,Hamilton lifted so he was still going with uniform V.Kimi was accel.from a low initial U,e.g.10ms.Now its a simple overtaking Eqn.
IrishRu5T 3 months ago
@IrishRu5T The chicane that Hamilton had to cut, as he was around the outside of Kimi SIDE BY SIDE and Kimi was giving him no room, was Bus Stop. That chicane, as I am sure you know, comes onto the pit straight. That is where he let him through.
So yes, it's a straight.
TeamLotusGT5 3 months ago
@TeamLotusGT5 he got the penalty as the rules state you must let the driver back through and can not overtake for one corner...hamilton took the position back straight away, and did not wait till after one corner. So he did deserve the penalty.
steve37533 1 month ago
Kimi is the best
TheMozes555 3 months ago
Trop fort ce kimi t'est fan de f1 ? tu fais du kart et tu es a un bon niveau ? dans ce cas tu es boris ! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
cocobabache 3 months ago 2
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Theyefull 3 months ago
It was lucky too, he got an armful of oversteer just before hamilton ran wide, if he didnt run wide he would have shunted into the back of him. But if anybody got lucky it was Massa, he ended up winning after Kimi crashed out and Lewis got a penalty.
Phoenix1664 3 months ago
you know that he's a great driver when he manages to overtake two cars in one corner.. in the wet... at Spa... too bad he crashed in the next corner... really hoping he'd come back to F1 next year..
MultiTopgearfan 3 months ago
amazing for about 2 seconds.. until he crashes that is.
Jamiet958 3 months ago 51
LOL he spun out and crashed on the next corner!!!!!!
but still soo hope Kimi returns to f1 in 2012 - he was one of the best on track!
barrybuffnut 3 months ago 2
Too bad he spun after that. Amazing drive, though.
Kimi Raikkonen, the only man that either DNFs or wins at the Belgian GP ;)
kimifan1989 3 months ago 4
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00:06
killerMARKELps3 3 months ago
Where on earth did Rosberg come from! Amazing awareness from Lewis!
TuneViper 3 months ago
This wasn't a double overtake, Rosberg was being lapped
Jordi123411 3 months ago
tres bien
mrtreize013 3 months ago
Crashhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh in next lap
Hamiltom the best
CorvetteC6Ls2 3 months ago
yeah, and what happened after that?!!
jezda90 3 months ago
Fucking rosberg is a fucking knob
ThEtErRoRiZeR7r011 4 months ago 2
Just laps before he crashed...
harvf1 4 months ago
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Dont talk to me in the middle of a corner
lumipifeslb 4 months ago
Plain dumb luck.
mustaffa16 4 months ago
kimi <3
gmiky 4 months ago
amazing luck too
Fuckdencio 5 months ago 110
@Fuckdencio skill?
Noppage 3 months ago
@Fuckdencio
cant be good driver without luck
Sareth987 2 months ago
That wasn't a double overtake...Rosberg was a lap down, and was obliged to move over..
nitroboost8765 5 months ago
@nitroboost8765 What about Hamilton lol
Mcquiz91 5 months ago
@Mcquiz91 What about Hamilton? I never said anything about Lewis..
nitroboost8765 5 months ago
@nitroboost8765 blab blab blab stfu
keytek9 4 months ago 2
@keytek9 Hahaha crazy Kimi fan!! Rosberg forced Lewis off, Kimi was in the right place at the right time!! Also, Rosberg was a lap down! Gosh, Kimi has so many better overtakes, why do they have to display one where he overtakes a guy a lap down who is supposed to move over?!
nitroboost8765 4 months ago
@keytek9
Agree whit you mate blah blah balah blaaaaaaah
boczarionut1981 3 months ago
he spun off on the next corner!
AlexFawcettFormula1 5 months ago 5
Kimi Räikkönen for ever !
iceboy94700 6 months ago 58
@iceboy94700 for ever getting lucky like seen above!
TuneViper 3 months ago
@TuneViper Surely it's lucky, but it's an amazing control from Kimi. Go in the car, and do the same thing, we'll can talk after...
iceboy94700 3 months ago
@iceboy94700 Kimi nearly creamed into the back of Lewis because he didnt realise Rosberg was coming
onto the track, i think Lewis's reaction was immense to avoid Rosberg
TuneViper 3 months ago
@TuneViper Yes, Lewis did an amazing move, but Kimi avoided Lewis and Rosberg at the same time !
iceboy94700 3 months ago
@iceboy94700 what happens if lewis didnt go off the track? kimi would have gone straight into the back of him!
TuneViper 3 months ago
@TuneViper Kimi could have gone off the track, like Lewis. But Kimi decided to go inside, and he avoided Rosberg at the same second ! It was the most difficult choice ...
iceboy94700 3 months ago