comme" c'est celui qui le dit qui l'est", le "stupid man" est l'analphabète inculte qui a débité une pareille ânerie !(un peu de culture ne nuit pas pour comprendre et apprécier les choses à leur juste valeur,dans les bons vins comme dans les voix !)
@Erikk91 Who are "we" Erik? As for me and many who watched this and other versions of this aria (which, by the way, was written for a man) don't feel the necessity to exclude male singers or make it mandatory to listen to it from a female singer. Not to mention that I never heard it (so far) sung by a woman singer, barring the only female version on YT, chopped off by a so-called soprano (schmoprano).
@civileso I use Plurale-majestatis. Joking XD , sorry, but i can't stand all those arias sung by men...female voice is ...beatiful....not this chicken-scream-like voice...de gustibus non est disputandum, anyway :D
@civileso Ann Hallenberg sang this aria as a part of her Farinelli tour with Les Talens Lyriques. Somewhere on YouTube is the complete concert from the Festival of Baroque Music in Beaune, France.
@OperaCurtainCalls Yes, I had seen that video. It was posted some time after my comment. I even remember searching a lot on YT to find a version by anyone... but could only find that amateur video. Then, like two weeks later, I saw Hallenberg's version recommended to me on my homepage. As you can see, I said "so far", not forever in my comment. Unlike Erikk91 here, I am not against anyone singing this, male or female. Heck, even I sing it. So why not PhJ or Hallenberg?
@Erikk91 thinking that a great artist like Philippe Jarousky is a stupid mEn really makes you an infrahuman.... does your brain really work well??? you should have it tested
@Erikk91 As for me, I don't want to read such stupid comments any more ! This aria is supposed to be sung by Polifemo, who was not a woman, and composed by Porpora for a male singer.
Thanks for posting serval different versions of this, I found the comparison quite interesting. I think I like this one the best, but they all have their good points.
This aria is no for Philippe Jaroussky: no quite sinuous vocal line, flat harmony. His success is more than the mediocre "bravura" of him. Arno Raunig's is better. However, Malas-Godlewska/Ragin's is no overcome too.
Thanks, civileso,for your tube-channel, is it very very interesting.
Jaroussky, Scholl and Raunig's voices belong to three different types. Scholl is a counter-tenor, Raunig is a sopranist, and Jaroussky falls somewhere in between. The thing about counter-tenors is that they sound great on recordings, but seem to lack the power required in live performances. I've seen this with Scholl. In this respect, Jaroussky fares slightly better.
yeah, jaroussky is a countertenor with a soprano like quality to his sound. for instance he has quite a solid low range (not afraid of low Bs in falsetto) and rarely goes into head voice unlike very mezzo like countertenors like cencic. but he also doesn't go higher than a high A, and rarely over a high G which differentiate him from a sopranist. sorry if i'm rambling :)
No no you're not rambling. It's an interesting discussion. I'll be popping along to see Jaroussky AND Invernizzi in Ercole sul Termodonte at the end of January.
What's the difference between what Jaroussky's singing in (falsetto presumably?) and head voice in your opinion? I'm an alto (countertenor) and I've never found myself able to sing in more than one 'voice' in that range!
what i mean by head voice is the emission you would use to make the notes you are doing now as a countertenor, if you were a tenor.
in otherwords, for a tenor , a high G to C would be the top of his range while for you as a coutertenor it would be your middle range. your low C would be the medium range of a tenor.
Oh, I see now, by head voice you mean (what I would call) light or blended chest voice. Incidentally, I'm a tenorish countertenor, so like most gentle lyrical tenors (and unlike Jaroussky and Cencic) don't spend too much time in the heights! The tenor high C is a comparatively 'high' note for me.
It depends on many factors, olialto7, and mine is just a dliettante's personal impression. But I heard Scholl in Händel's "Gulio Cesare", at the Theatre des Champs Elysees, and I don't think it was anywhere near the theatre-filling, roof-raising sounds of Farinelli movie fame.
Well, no, I don't think I'd expect that from any countertenor really... Although having said that I've heard the British countertenor Nicholas Clapton in a recital and rehearsing in his room (from across a courtyard!) and he has a very powerful voice. I suppose it's not much of an issue for me, because I'm not a huge opera lover.
Has either of you heard David Daniels? Haven't heard him sing Alto Giove, but have heard him in recital and at the Met in Rodelinda and Giulio Cesare. A fully developed male alto voice, mezzo-soprano range, with depth and color and impeccable musicianship. Although Jaroussky has a sweet voice, he doesn't have the depth of expression that Daniels has. Nor do Scholl, Clapton, Cencic, Taylor, and the others.
Yes, Daniels' is a wonderful voice, although I often have issues with the way he uses it, certain off-putting mannerisms that he is, and ways of distorting vowels at the top and bottom of his range. I think you're wrong to suggest that Daniels can achieve greater depths of expression than other singers just because his voice has a richer colour and he uses it more dramatically, though. I think that Alfred Deller, for example, was highly expressive, using only the simplest means.
As I mentioned in the video description, it is a live performance, an encore from a recital in Australia (see description for more details). It was recorded from a radio broadcast and never officially released in any of his albums or DVDs.
Thank you for this score (it's very interesting for me to read this text) and for this audio. Every time I listen this aria I smile through my tears. This music, this voice are imbue with such sadness and tenderness, sun and rain, grief and happiness....... It is amazing....
Beautiful.
UniverseOfLika 4 days ago
Magnificent!
Underdogpiano 1 week ago
Wonderfully beautiful!
gonrolgonrol 1 month ago
hermoso!!!
estatira1000 4 months ago
comme" c'est celui qui le dit qui l'est", le "stupid man" est l'analphabète inculte qui a débité une pareille ânerie !(un peu de culture ne nuit pas pour comprendre et apprécier les choses à leur juste valeur,dans les bons vins comme dans les voix !)
edgarrep 7 months ago
One of the most BRILLIANT YouTube postings EVER!!! Thank you civileso!! Sei un Bravo!!!
felixjacomino 8 months ago
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We want a woman to sing this. Not this stupid men
Erikk91 8 months ago
@Erikk91 Who are "we" Erik? As for me and many who watched this and other versions of this aria (which, by the way, was written for a man) don't feel the necessity to exclude male singers or make it mandatory to listen to it from a female singer. Not to mention that I never heard it (so far) sung by a woman singer, barring the only female version on YT, chopped off by a so-called soprano (schmoprano).
civileso 8 months ago 6
@civileso I use Plurale-majestatis. Joking XD , sorry, but i can't stand all those arias sung by men...female voice is ...beatiful....not this chicken-scream-like voice...de gustibus non est disputandum, anyway :D
Erikk91 8 months ago
@civileso Ann Hallenberg sang this aria as a part of her Farinelli tour with Les Talens Lyriques. Somewhere on YouTube is the complete concert from the Festival of Baroque Music in Beaune, France.
OperaCurtainCalls 3 weeks ago
@OperaCurtainCalls Yes, I had seen that video. It was posted some time after my comment. I even remember searching a lot on YT to find a version by anyone... but could only find that amateur video. Then, like two weeks later, I saw Hallenberg's version recommended to me on my homepage. As you can see, I said "so far", not forever in my comment. Unlike Erikk91 here, I am not against anyone singing this, male or female. Heck, even I sing it. So why not PhJ or Hallenberg?
civileso 3 weeks ago
@Erikk91 thinking that a great artist like Philippe Jarousky is a stupid mEn really makes you an infrahuman.... does your brain really work well??? you should have it tested
nicosupersex 8 months ago
@nicosupersex i can think whatever I want... and sorry but i am not english...
Erikk91 8 months ago
@Erikk91 you are so so so idiot . non liket ?."FUCK YOU"
inchesa1 7 months ago
@inchesa1 Is it you
Erikk91 7 months ago
@inchesa1 cow get in your farm
inchesa1 7 months ago
@Erikk91 As for me, I don't want to read such stupid comments any more ! This aria is supposed to be sung by Polifemo, who was not a woman, and composed by Porpora for a male singer.
GerardRatigan 6 months ago
Hi!
I would be interested in the score. Is it possible to email it? Best from Hamburg,
Andreas
bassfuchs 1 year ago
thats really impressive....what an artist....too bad he has no trills at all :(
killerbunny123123 1 year ago
could someone tell me where to find bramo aver mille vite and lo tabbraccio jarossky
cijidara 1 year ago
Quest'aria è molto bella ed anche l'interprete è bravo; deve solo migliorare la dizione.
2009182 1 year ago
IS thiis Italian
sexysexycarmel 1 year ago
Wrong music
lovevic52 1 year ago
This is, I think, the best performance of Jaroussky's Alto Giove. He was close Giove!
rivagesyrtes 2 years ago 2
Jupiter Almighty this is whats refer to on the DOLLAR BILL!
911truthseekers 2 years ago
Amazing.
omegaeloy 2 years ago
Where's my life's fresh air and water?
.....Oh there he is! <3 :D Can't live without Jaroussky anymore!
rasamalai108 2 years ago 14
I love to sing this piece after i finish it i feel so calm and relaxed its a wonderful piece of music
DvdMr69 2 years ago
Thanks for posting serval different versions of this, I found the comparison quite interesting. I think I like this one the best, but they all have their good points.
Zantorc 2 years ago
OMG Perfect!
MusicoNato 2 years ago
Vraiment très bonne l'idée d'associer la partition musicale à l'écoute; de cette façon on apprécie mieux l'interprétation de l'artiste.
Merci bien!
Philippe est vraiment fantastique!
apettagialla 3 years ago 2
Oh, it's pure pleasure to listen to such an angelic voice!
VivianDeflower 3 years ago 5
Beautiful!! Philippe is superb!!
MariadeBsAs 3 years ago
Perfetta interpretazione e timbro meraviglioso......complimenti
Nemorino80 3 years ago 2
Meravigliosi
italwines 3 years ago
MERAVIGLIOSI PORPORA E VJAROUSSKY!
italwines 3 years ago 2
love it
lamsauping 3 years ago
Alti Philippe Jaroussky et
Australian Brandenburg Orchestra per aver cosi' splendidamente interpretato Porpora.
italwines 3 years ago
This aria is no for Philippe Jaroussky: no quite sinuous vocal line, flat harmony. His success is more than the mediocre "bravura" of him. Arno Raunig's is better. However, Malas-Godlewska/Ragin's is no overcome too.
Thanks, civileso,for your tube-channel, is it very very interesting.
LUCREZIATITA 3 years ago
Arno Raunig is far from being better than Jaroussky!Very far:)Jaroussky and Scholl are probable the best counter tenors in the world.
doddsalfa 3 years ago 3
very right!
delauge 3 years ago
Jaroussky, Scholl and Raunig's voices belong to three different types. Scholl is a counter-tenor, Raunig is a sopranist, and Jaroussky falls somewhere in between. The thing about counter-tenors is that they sound great on recordings, but seem to lack the power required in live performances. I've seen this with Scholl. In this respect, Jaroussky fares slightly better.
Libattir81 3 years ago
yeah, jaroussky is a countertenor with a soprano like quality to his sound. for instance he has quite a solid low range (not afraid of low Bs in falsetto) and rarely goes into head voice unlike very mezzo like countertenors like cencic. but he also doesn't go higher than a high A, and rarely over a high G which differentiate him from a sopranist. sorry if i'm rambling :)
cuicuimusic 3 years ago
No no you're not rambling. It's an interesting discussion. I'll be popping along to see Jaroussky AND Invernizzi in Ercole sul Termodonte at the end of January.
Libattir81 3 years ago
What's the difference between what Jaroussky's singing in (falsetto presumably?) and head voice in your opinion? I'm an alto (countertenor) and I've never found myself able to sing in more than one 'voice' in that range!
olialto7 3 years ago
what i mean by head voice is the emission you would use to make the notes you are doing now as a countertenor, if you were a tenor.
in otherwords, for a tenor , a high G to C would be the top of his range while for you as a coutertenor it would be your middle range. your low C would be the medium range of a tenor.
that would be your speaking voice, so to speak.
cuicuimusic 3 years ago
Oh, I see now, by head voice you mean (what I would call) light or blended chest voice. Incidentally, I'm a tenorish countertenor, so like most gentle lyrical tenors (and unlike Jaroussky and Cencic) don't spend too much time in the heights! The tenor high C is a comparatively 'high' note for me.
olialto7 3 years ago
It's surprising what a wrong impression you can get from recordings then. I would have thought that Scholl had a pretty strong, resonant voice.
olialto7 3 years ago
It depends on many factors, olialto7, and mine is just a dliettante's personal impression. But I heard Scholl in Händel's "Gulio Cesare", at the Theatre des Champs Elysees, and I don't think it was anywhere near the theatre-filling, roof-raising sounds of Farinelli movie fame.
Libattir81 3 years ago
Well, no, I don't think I'd expect that from any countertenor really... Although having said that I've heard the British countertenor Nicholas Clapton in a recital and rehearsing in his room (from across a courtyard!) and he has a very powerful voice. I suppose it's not much of an issue for me, because I'm not a huge opera lover.
olialto7 3 years ago
Has either of you heard David Daniels? Haven't heard him sing Alto Giove, but have heard him in recital and at the Met in Rodelinda and Giulio Cesare. A fully developed male alto voice, mezzo-soprano range, with depth and color and impeccable musicianship. Although Jaroussky has a sweet voice, he doesn't have the depth of expression that Daniels has. Nor do Scholl, Clapton, Cencic, Taylor, and the others.
drbren 2 years ago
Yes, Daniels' is a wonderful voice, although I often have issues with the way he uses it, certain off-putting mannerisms that he is, and ways of distorting vowels at the top and bottom of his range. I think you're wrong to suggest that Daniels can achieve greater depths of expression than other singers just because his voice has a richer colour and he uses it more dramatically, though. I think that Alfred Deller, for example, was highly expressive, using only the simplest means.
olialto7 2 years ago
Jaroussky and Scholl are the best.D.Daniels sounds sometimes like an old lady:)
doddsalfa 2 years ago
thanks again
mahajaroussky 3 years ago
Hello, from which source is this aria? On all Jarouskky-discs that are available I couldn´t find, it sounds like a professional studio recording
jommelli 3 years ago
As I mentioned in the video description, it is a live performance, an encore from a recital in Australia (see description for more details). It was recorded from a radio broadcast and never officially released in any of his albums or DVDs.
civileso 3 years ago
Ok thanks, haven`t read this, its an excellent live recording then in sound an interpretation
jommelli 3 years ago
@jommelli
You can find it at Farinelli's soundtrack disc
zentinela1716 1 year ago
@zentinela1716 While that track is on the disc, I don't believe Jaroussky is the performer.
Nikita1031 1 year ago
Thank you *kowtow*.
Thank you for this score (it's very interesting for me to read this text) and for this audio. Every time I listen this aria I smile through my tears. This music, this voice are imbue with such sadness and tenderness, sun and rain, grief and happiness....... It is amazing....
Thanks Philippe. Thanks civileso
oberega 3 years ago
...and thanks, Nicola Porpora.
grenouilleGG 3 years ago
Undoubtedly! :)
oberega 3 years ago
Really wonderful. Thanks for sharing =)
jonathantosio 3 years ago