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  • kirk wins.

  • @ "theultimateexperience" - I 2nd that!

  • I think kirk can out shred marty but marty completely destroys him technically, he is more innovative ,unique and so on

  • Kirk is a student of Joe Satriani, Marty is a teacher of Jason Becker.

    so...

  • i like both

  • WOW! The community of Megadeth and Metallica is full of retards. The word ''passion'' isn't even used A FUCKING SINGLE TIME in the whole debate. Why talking about damn theory, technique, speed and stuff like that when music is based on passion? Metalheads claims to be smart dudes when they're completly low-minded peace of crap most of the time.

  • lol @ little kid in the comments section, shitting himself over "the memory remains" live. Killer metal song indeed, lol...

  • Same pentatonic solos dosent make you the best guitarist. Kirk seems like the best guitarist in the world to non musicians and crappy guitar players with fender squires who have never played thrash leads. But a decent guitarist knows better. Marty-kirk

  • @McFatigueN couldn't agree more.

  • Marty-kirk any day... Anyone that has ever played megadeth and metallica leads on the guitar would know that marty's leads are killer and near impossible to nail 100%. Kirk WAS good during the kill em all days, average during master of puppets, but now has lost his edge. I used to think kirk and metallics were better then megadeth... Then i opened my mind and found out dave, david, nick, and marty make lars, james, kirk, and jason/ cliff look amature. Seriously, kirk is great, but slamming the

  • Wah wah wah..

  • Kirk is a good guitar player but Marty is just way better just listen to Lucretia, tornado of souls those solos are incredible! Honestly Kirk has never wrote a solo that has made u say "damn! That solo is amazing!"

  • @MrShakur7196

    Not even dyers eve or fade to black?

  • @MrShakur7196, omg! fade to black, ride the lightning, one, unforgiven, blackened and moree!!

  • Kirk sucks

  • I think Kirk sounds better improvising without a track, but Marty sounds better playing improvizing with a track. Martys still my fav guitarists though, Forbidden City is a GODLY solo.

    About the people whining here, Metallica has remained throughout the years as one of the greatest live bands EVER. And of their mainstream stuff, HAVE YOU SEEN THEM PLAY THE MEMORY REMAINS LIVE!!!??? Megadeth however have gone very downhill with dave voice.

  • kirks improvising is so repetive and full of bends

  • they have different techniques:

    Marty "awesome arpeggios" technique

    Kirk "wha all the time" technique

  • they are both legends two different styles of playing...

  • marty was quit because he interested with japan

  • @ArchBorneo

    no... watch Megadeth's documentary and you will understand everything....

  • Marty rules

    

  • wah wah = kirk

    talent = marty

  • I love how everyone is jumping on martys dick, especially the megadeath fans, while I'll stand alone defending kirk

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  • @MrMrJHetfield read the top comment please, and it's spelled megadeth

  • @MrMrJHetfield slap yourself and read the top rated comment again..if yo don't get the meaning ,slap yourself again and read it again !

  • @worstformm First of all, learn how to fucking type. And so what if I am a fanboy of Kirk. I'm not a 12 year old, but I'll definitely stand up for him. I don't care what anyone says; I am a true fan of Kirk Hammett.

  • @MrMrJHetfield lol read the top rated comment again

  • @MrMrJHetfield

    jumping on Marty's dick is better than sucking Kirk's dick which you are doing all the time.

  • @MrMrJHetfield Marty is just better, seriously, It's not about being a fanboy. He is superior musically, his solos are more unique. His understanding of music theory overall is better. He experiments. Kirk plays a lot of samey stuff. Don't get me wrong I love their first 4 albums. If you pay attention to marty's solos they are made of exotic scales and modes. where as kirk sticks to the major scale/minor, pentatonic and otherwise.

  • @terran236 I agree with the pentatonic scales. But We personally haven't seen what either guitarist can do. I'm sure that they can both shred; pentatonic scale or not.

  • @MrMrJHetfield

    disregard the feud between the bands... or do you have any common sense??? or a faggot or something..???

    Kirk's fame is because of Metallica and his annoying "wha all the time" technique while Marty's fame is because of his total and unique styles and talent. everyone knows it.... dont pretend that you dont know...

  • @mikeammot You are fucking retarded, How do you figure? His most famous solo's: One, Master, and Fade to Black, don't contain any fucking wah! Sure, he abuses it live; but that's his style and he just fucking shreds. Dumbass.

  • @MrMrJHetfield

    Master??? the solo there really sucks and annoying... full of speed but nobody could appreciate a thing with that solo in master... i believe in one and fade to black... but we are talking about the majority of his solos... suck some dick you fuckin' faggot!!!

  • @mikeammot Dude. His solos go hard and are fucking intense. Have you listened to Justice? Christ.

  • @MrMrJHetfield

    many times... why???

    it's good... but it is not hard neither fuckin' intense... and we are not talking about the difficulty and technicality here... we are talking which is more pleasing to the ear...

  • @mikeammot Alright, I'm smh because I'm giving you all these reasons why I think Kirk is better, let me hear some of yours. WITH PROOF.

  • @MrMrJHetfield

    is that it..???

    you mean i will give you some solos of Megadeth that will prove that they are superior than of Kirk???

    everybody knows that Hangar 18 and Holy Wars pawns every Metallica's solo... are you just pretending that you do not know?? or ashamed of admitting it because you knew that after all this time you were wrong??? Kirk don't suck neither Marty.., Marty is just better than Kirk... you knew it...

  • @mikeammot Are you fucking joking? Fade to Black's solo is better. Not saying those are some kick ass solos, but you have to shred with solo. If it's down to just shredding, there are a ton of guitarists that are better than Kirk and Marty, shredding-wise, and we both know these two are better.

  • @MrMrJHetfield Hangar 18 was an entire solo.

  • @MrMrJHetfield  wtf, a simple "i like kirk more" would have worked, but i guess ur "hopping on dicks" theory works too....

  • @beefcakes42 It's true. Look at 90% of the comments.

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  • @beefcakes42 Are you fucking retareded? I wish I could play dumb. Dumbasses on the internet these days...

  • @MrMrJHetfield  lmao, why are u even talking?

  • @beefcakes42 Can you read? I'm trying to argue my point. That's the point of the video. Is it not? Kirk >Megadeth

  • @MrMrJHetfield lmao, can you read?  last time i looked the video was called marty friedman vs kirk hammet, not kirk>megadeth. anyway, please explain with logic what makes kirk so much better then, cause i know u cant...all of his solos are virtually the same style, he uses wah WAYY to much, and he only contributes so much to metallicas songwriting...dave writes 99% of megadeths music and lyrics, his solos are much more complex than kirks, and hes not even technically the lead player...

  • @beefcakes42 You can say he's more techincal all you want. Prove it. And Kirk uses WAH alot, bet usually just live. There aren't many songs off of the record that have WAH.

  • @MrMrJHetfield prove it? just listen to any of his solos...and like i said hes only technically the rythm player...listen to any of friedmans solos or brodericks solos, theyre on a completely different level of technicallity than kirk...kirk is really good at what he does, but hes not even close to broderick or friedman...hes close to dave but dave still has more complex solos, and doesnt need wah live...im a huge fan of both bands and all the players, but megadeth has so much more talent...

  • @beefcakes42 *Kirk goes laughing off to the bank,* You can have all the talent you want, but if your music sounds like shit, go right ahead and argue your point.

  • @MrMrJHetfield hmm, last time i checked, bands who sound like shit arent classified as one of the greatest thrash bands ever..too bad people who are uneducated about music cant see that...ur a joke...

  • @beefcakes42 Classified? Read Ultimate Guitar, Read RollingStone. Megadeth doesn't got shit on Metallica. I give Dave props for being a pioneer. But that automatically doesn't make him the best.

  • @beefcakes42

    maybe he doesn't know what a guitar is... ask MrMrHetfield and he will tell you that a guitar is something that you can eat, that is why he keep on insisting that Kirk is better...

    he even told me that justice's solo are hard...duh...

  • @mikeammot yeaa wouldnt suprise me, hes obviously not a metal fan if he thinks megadeth sucks...

  • @beefcakes42 I love metal. Just Mustaine's Vocals are to screachy. I'm just one-sided, towards Metallica. Admiting, to yes being a fanboy. But atleast I'm backing my shit up.

  • @MrMrJHetfield no ur not backing ur shit up...if u dont like megadeth, thats fantastic..but saying they suck just makes u look like an ignorant piece of shit...

  • @beefcakes42 How am I not? I am admiting to the WAH, repetitive penatonics. Megadeth isn't that great. People would rather see Metallica over Megadeth, what don't you think they ever made it to a big Monsters of Rock concert, they made it, but were never headliners.

  • @MrMrJHetfield u wanna know why? because metallica WAS a thrash band, then with and after the black album, they opened up to the more mainstream audience who might have not even been metal fans, which made them popular among a much bigger group of people...where as megadeth stuck to their roots, and with the exception of the risk album, have been virtually the same style since they formed...and like i said, if megadeth wasnt that great, they wouldnt be considered one of the greatest metal bands

  • @beefcakes42 I agree with the mainstream, but c'mon, they can't be something you're not.  They are 50 year old men. Give them a break. Even before the black album, they'd always make bank. And Megadeth definetely ain't the worst metal band, totally agree with them being pioneers; But, Metallica>Megadeth

  • @MrMrJHetfield i can agree that even from the start tht metallica was more successfull, but in terms of metal, metallica was only up on megadeth up to and justice, but then metallica veered off and megadeth stayed the same..if u think metallicas better than megadeth, thts great...i personally think that megadeth has more talented musicians, which shows in the complex music megadeth is, but like i said before i like both bands equally

  • @beefcakes42 Well, Cliff, Kirk and James are amazing at what they do, I really don't pay attention to how good Megadeth's bassist is, So I guess I'll have to agree with you.

  • @MrMrJHetfield and i bet more ppl want to see metallica then pat metheny, but that doesnt mean metallica are better than pat from a musical stand point.

  • @MrMrJHetfield Dave's vocals fit the aggressive attitude in his music. James sounds like pirate doing country music.

  • @beefcakes42

    obviously Metallica's Load upto St. Anger is no longer Metal... let us make an excuse for MrMrJHetfield because he is not a Metal fan... i'm sure he is not a fan of Metallica's Kill em All upto Black Album neither....

    i'm sorry to say but, Non-Metal lover outnumbered Metal lovers that is why Metallica switced to a Non-Metal type after Black Album that's why they have sold more records than Megadeth... Risk was Pop-Metal but still it's Metal... you know what i mean dude...

  • @mikeammot ohh yea i know what u mean...like 95 percent of the metallica i listen too is kill em all-the black album..the black album is a great album in itself, the only thing that gets me with it is its the gateway album for all the fanboys...

  • @MrMrJHetfield Kirks a great player. And in my opinion a better lead player than Dave Mustaine. But I would still have to say that Marty is better.

  • @llasnwohpesoj broderick is awesome too!! just hear the public enemy solo is melodic and fast at the same time

  • Kirk's Solos' Tab:

    0-WahWahWahWah-5WahWah-5WahWah­-4-WahWah-3WahWah

  • @macp0333

    hahaha

    WTF???LOL

  • I really think a great solo is'nt shred... Or soloing fast... Cuz Dave and Marty jusrt shred some shit and thats it a 'great' solo (Chris is the better of them)... If it's about technically gonna listen to Nitro, Extremist, Dream Theater and stuff... But if it's about MUSIC, and feeling, harmony... METALLICA IS A HIGHWAY TO HELL BETTER!

  • @TheYagomestre retard. lol Marty Friedman - Forbidden City

  • @TheYagomestre Metallica's typical solo: wahwahwahwahwahwahwahwahwahwah­wahwahwah.

    

  • @Aenskyd Megashit's typical solo: piriririiririririririiririi

  • @TheYagomestre

    Metallica is the greatest band i think but i don't think Metallica fans are also Kirk's fan...Metallica's songs are full of Harmony if you exclude Kirk's solos which is totally annoying... i think Metallica would have sold many more copies if Kirk is not ruining the whole song by his annoying "wha all the time" technique... enter sandman is a great song but OMG, the solo is awful and annoying...

  • @TheYagomestre

    Nitros' MAB is the greatest of all time... but i don't think Dream Theater's Petrucci can beat Marty....

  • The BIG difference is Kirk can't definitely play Marty's solo while Marty can play Kirk's

  • @fahmirashid

    eh???hahaha... i can play Marty's solos.. am i better than them???

    just sayin'

    no offense please????

  • Kirk Hammet can't do one solo without the whammy bar.

  • @Megadething

    hey.. don't include Glenn Drover in there...

    he was just an accident for Megadeth...

  • @mikeammot Still better than Kirk...

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  • @Megadething

    maybe...

    i just don't like his solos... i mean nothing special....

    Glenn's never walk alone's solo is the worst solo of Megadeth i think... it's just he's like an underground performer. not a pro... no offense please..

  • Dave Mustaine > Kirk + Marty.... idk what else to say

  • @horker69 Dave Mustaine said in his biography that Marty was way better than him.

  • @horker69

    Dave humbly accepts on his biography that Marty is better than him...

  • @mikeammot I'm sure Marty would humbly accept that Dave was better than him too if he even had a biography

  • One , Fade to black , Seek and Destroy ,Ride the Lightning explains everything .

    Kirk >friedman , Metallica > megashit

  • @Dominator5515 greatest comment i ever seen,good work bro..now stfu and kill urself

  • @worstformm

    Dominator5515 only named Metallica songs... he cannot name any Megadeth's awesome songswritings because he never ever listened to it and because that will prove him totally wrong in any ways... haha

    he is so pathetic... maybe he is a league with beiber...

  • @Dominator5515 jajajajajajajajajajajajajajaja­ja como comparan a marty con este wey kirk no le llega ni a los talones a marty y el no necesita wha wha tremolo bar el hace musica mucho mas complicada sin nada de eso y kirk no por ser famoso es bueno, los q digan q kirk gana es por q no saben en realidad una mierda de la guitarra

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  • @Dominator5515 Marty > kirk, Megadeth > metallica

  • @Dominator5515

    Ride The Lightning and Seek and Destroy are not Kirk's by the way... he just copied it from Dave...

    do you really know Megadeth and Metallica??? or do you have any idea with Metal????... or maybe you are just posting in the person of beiber??

  • @mikeammot ride the lightning solo is kirk's

  • Marty Friedman is just an amazing and original guitarist. His dreamy constructive solos pump you full of energy, and fit perfectly in the amazing and original songwriting of Dave Mustaine.

    Its such a nice contrast to see those 2 guys play together.

    However, I really can't listen to Marty Friedmans solo work. It lost its energy, it misses the fast & sharp Mustaine riffs, Ellefson pick-bass and straight-to-the-riff drums of Nick.

    Listen to the solo from Lucretia, thats EXACTLY what I mean.

  • Marty is unik.

  • I like kirk too, but have to say that Marty kicks his ass

    that 1:10 - 1:29 solo kicks major ass too.

  • Marty sucks just saying

  • 1:10 "damn"

    1:24 "holy fuck"

    1:29 *viewer probably dead*

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  • This is how Marty sounds like: Ass kicker

    This how Kirk sonds like: WAHWAHWAHWAHWAH loop

  • I use to me realiant on pentatomic run like kirk until I started playing new stuff and Now I mix my style with different play techniques

  • John Petrucci owns both.

  • don't forget,marty best friend is jason becker. petrucci,friedman is in the same league,the offsider's is WahWahwahhhememmttttttt.....

  • Kirk is way way better that Marty the cry baby friedman

  • @6hanley MEGATROLL DETECTED

    Marty is musically superior hands down.

  • marty is 100000000000 times better ever and all the way

    only listen Dragon kiss cd

    kirk is wah wah abuser and nothing special

  • @ronniea7x And Marty is currently playing in a K-pop band called Fanta, supporting Fanta drinks. So I call it a tie. I just can't understand why Marty didn't stay with Megadeth =(

  • @ronniea7x Wait J-rock not K-pop lol

  • Kirk has always been my role model. but then he turned into a "Wah" type of guy. he still is but i have to give it to Marty.

  • i thinks it funny how martys primarily self taught and better than, kirk. the guy who got taught by joe satriani...

  • @pizzadeliveryguy1984 In all fairness Kirk already knew how to play and had developed his style before he took lessons from Satch. Not sure what Joe taught him... probably focused on theory. It seems like virtuosos like Friedman and Becker were extremely good at a very young age... must come natural I guess.

  • @pizzadeliveryguy1984

    is this true that joe satriani is kirk's mentor???

    but why is that Satriani's solos are awesome and

    Kirk's solos are totally annoying???

  • @mikeammot indeed it is true. satriani solos are awsome because he's satriani. kirk solos are totally annoying because some asshole gave him a wah pedal

  • @pizzadeliveryguy1984

    he should give the wha pedal back... i mean is that some of his solos are awesome but most of it are ruined by his wha pedal...

  • @mikeammot Because Joe is a creative genius and a technical virtuoso whereas Kirk just sucks.

  • At least show some respect for Kirk. He could still play some of the crap from the Justice album, which was full of technical guitar solos. PLUS, he's not a douche to you. He's got a supremely low ego.

    Well, I think Marty does to. But that's a different story

  • This is like comparing joe satriani and herman li, it just doesn't work

  • ok...so all you 12 yr olds that are metallica fans and haven't ever heard a megadeth song... "enter sandman" vs. "Hangar 18" nuf said.

  • @EVHrocks1  Enter Sandman riff was just a rip off of an Excel song anyway.

  • Marty!!!

  • Marty way way way better!!!!!

  • everyone who said kirk's better have probably never heard of marty or they're 12yr old metallica fanboys

  • @vignesh675opo I don't think it's fair to compare Marty to Kirk...Marty is a guitar god...I love Metallica...In their prime they were my favorite band with Master being my favorite album of all time....But when it comes to guitar work Marty is in a class by himself...There are plenty of elite guitar players in metal but I wouldn't put Kirk in that class...He's a good guitar player but Marty is far superior.

  • thumbs up for Marty!!!!!!!

  • Everyone is mentioning Tornado of Soul, have you ever listened to Marty before Megadeth and Cacophony with his band Hawaii? He did killer riffs and solos, only he and Malmsteen did those things in the early 80's. Kirk is not bad despite his fucking wah but he isn't even a toenail of Marty.

  • Perhaps you should all lay off of Kirk after looking at this VS video with Marty.

    /watch?v=TUCQnOrQRJM

    Everyone on this video hates Marty and thinks he sucks. in the same way you megadeth fanboys hate Kirk and think he sucks. You won't be able to reason with the idiots on that video just like no one can reason with you idiots this video, because there's no logic to stupidity.

  • @krone900 to bad people dont know better, ^^ marty friedman rips him apart.

    John f pfff get outta here ><

  • @Ramboaction

    I agree, but so does Kirk.

  • Everybody that says kirk is better cant spell worth shit because theyre fucking little kids who dont know anything about guitar. Kirk is the worst guitar player i have ever heard with his penatonic scales, too much wah, shaky vibrato, off pitch bends that kill your ears especially in the unforgiven solo, and he plays the same improvised solo every live show. He hasnt gotten any better since justice doesnt contribute anything to his band but his shitty solos. Hes overrated shit

  • @StallionTTT :D YES marty is best 

  • @StallionTTT

    Seriously, you're the only one that's coming across as a kid, grow up.

  • If you prefer Metallica, that's fine. You're entitled to you're opinion. But in terms of technicality & experimentation Megadeth piss all over Metallica.

  • marty is more versatile, kirk is aight i mean he has skill, but marty wins hands down.

  • fuck u all kirk kiks ass

  • this is not fair comparing marty with krik.....

    will you compare coke with miranda ?

  • These guitar battle things are just so stupid I can hardly explain it...

  • C'mon guys WAH is KIRK'S STYLE so dont bash him

  • @skaterobban First of all, I am not stupid, are you? And second, it's my opinion and I justified it so.... And finally, My dignity is well preserved and I surely don't need a person like you to comment about it, so why don't YOU keep your embarrasing comments to YOURSELF !

  • Kirk was a Joe Satriani student. Marty played WITH Satriani. Enough said.

  • @HCkev BURN

  • i like them both. the fade to black solo is my fav solo of all time, but marty is still my favorite. Hes the only solo artist ive heard so far, that i can listen to for hours at a time.

  • yes martys solos are more complicated but kirks are more intresting and fun to listen to. and all u megadeth fans stop sayin kirk needs a wah wah pedal to play solos because we all know that isnt true. all pedals do is make the solos sound different, its not like that plays the solo for him. besides he plays solos that have wah in it without the wah live all the time and they still sound amazing. but yes i know marty plays more complicated and skillful solos.

  • @CarlsonsRaidersUSMC Whether or not Kirk's solos are "more interesting and fun to listen to" is completely subjective. There are lots of players who use wah-wah... but for Kirk it has become a crutch. He even admitted that you would have to cut off his leg in order for him to stop using wah.

  • i can play kirks stuff, i cant play martys

  • kirk

  • @oposthegreat2 I say "anymore" and you bring up a song from the early 90's? Sorry but I just can't take that seriously.

    Your comment that "Metallica has fans, Megadeth has fanboys" is absolutely ridiculous. BOTH bands have "fans" and "fanboys". Since I like BOTH bands it's impossible for me to be a "fanboy".

  • by the way,marty may be better than kirk,but still both of them kick ass!

  • marty did more styles than kirk,and not only wah wah...as we can see in Flamingo man video,even rob truijllo kicks the shit out of kirk hammett...still a great guitar player kirk,that's sure,but marty is just better...in my humble opinion

  • if they do a song collaboration, it would be:

    Marty Friedman: lead guitar, rithym, drums, bass

    Kirk Hammet: triangle and Marty's penis (jajaja just kiding)

    I love Metallica but kirk is such a mediocre guitar player. Im not saying that I hate him but i cant stand the fact that he stopped in the pentatonic wah-scale and didnt find variation in the music he made. Just my opinion.

  • Tornado of Souls, Speed Metal Symphony, Thundermarch, Valley of Eternity annihilate what Kirk has ever done in his career

  • i like friedman and i like kirk but kirk's solos are destroyd by his wah-wah!

  • @oposthegreat2 If "success" is measured by RIAA ratings then yea I guess Metallica is more "successful". But in all fairness Metallica could make a record of themselves burping and farting and it would still debut #1 on the Bill 200.

    Megadeth did have their share of "mainstream" time in the mid 90s when they changed to a more traditional metal "radio friendly" sound, but they are not mainstream anymore.

  • @oposthegreat2

    Responding to 9 months old comments?

    Seriously?

  • This is a joke. Kirk just spams rock cliches and simple runs whereas Marty is a virtuoso.

  • Im so sad because people compare the best bands ever...they start a fight "Metal vs Metal" Why the fuck you want to start a battle godd music against good music when we need to start a fight good music against shit music...they are both great so shut your fucking mouth and go fuck yourselves... (kidding with the last part) Metal must unite !

  • Marty is way better...better solos and he plays the solos without using only the WAH pedal to cover the wrongs like kirk....

  • Kirk has better riffs

  • @fredsassy5

    kirk doesn't write the riffs in metallica, james does. kirk writes the solos.

  • @Fluffypopcicle Kirk does write riffs, Not as much as James! He wrote the "Enter Sandman" riff and you can see it in The Black Album Re-Visited" dvd (or something like that).

  • @exxxtrmer

    i know he wrote the sandman riff, but that's close to it. i think he wrote 2 more, not sure. that's still hardly anything.

  • @Fluffypopcicle If he didn't write any more riffs, his name wouldn't appear on the credits, he certainly doesn't write lyrics so his name is there for the riffs. The riffr right after the solo on Creeping Death was by him also. In fact, that riff was used by Exodus!

  • @exxxtrmer

    creeping death and fade to black were the only other 2. if kirk doesn't write lyrics then he is a liar. i have no desire to discuss this anymore. he wrote around 3 riffs, that's it, end of story. he writes the solos, of course he is going to appear on the credits.

  • @Fluffypopcicle Kirk started writing little lyrics until Load and Re-load and then Sain Anger! James is the main riff guy but Kirk does write riffs as well besides the solos; not only those you mentioned.

  • @exxxtrmer

    just give me proof, im tired of people telling me this when the facts go against them.

  • @Fluffypopcicle Who are you? John Zazula? Bob Rock? Were you actually there? Where's your proof?

  • @exxxtrmer

    kirk always mentioned that he made the riff if he did write it. there are many behind the scenes type of stuff and he never once said he made a riff other than those 3 (that i know of). my proof is common sense, now here is yours?