@decus69 - Maybe not the BEST, bop solo, ever .... but one of the BEST of all, esp. from the horn of Mr. Gray. His contribution is VERY good, in it's 3+ minutes (of solo). Interesting, that Art Farmer hardly sounds-like the mellower (but equally-lyrical) trumpeter/fluegelhornist that he became. Hawes, Mondragon and Shelley Manne take-care of the rhythm section, very-capably! MANY thanks for this excerpt/download.
@jhb134 Seems that we are not in agreement here. One of the best? Can you direct me to a more precise and lyrical solo over Donna Lee done in Bb by a Tenor saxophonist who was a peer of Mr Grays.Even by today's standard. I'd really like to hear it- though I doubt that you'll be able to come up with anything apart from wind.
@decus69 - Would you consider Lester Young a peer of Gray's, even though Lester didn't play bop? Also, I might find a Sonny Rollins solo or two, or maybe a succinct example of Lucky Thompson, that could match Gray's - opinions only, of course, and thanks.
@jhb134 Young was a peer of Coleman Hawkins-Gray was a peer of Dexter Gordon. Thompson was a swing player-pure swing language. I have Rollins playing (Back Home in Indiana) changes with Babs Gonsalves but it's in the key of F or C not Bb. Rollins solo's for about 8 bars only. Thats why I said" best bop tenor solo over donna lee." There is one more solo by 'Little Bird' but his solo is nowhere as creative nor does he plug the changes as-well as Gray.
@BashuUp - OK, Hawkins was a peer, of MANY, as was Lester Young. Either way, you DID mention the "best bop solo" in specific terms - in "Donna Lee". We shouldn't argue, anymore, about the latter, and Wardell is one of the BEST examples of tenor playing, in the post-WW2 period, OK? I like Thompson, Gray, Allen Eager and other tenor players of their time, as jazz progressed after the wartime years. Again, I appreciate this excerpt, from a hard-to-find recording; it's invaluable!
@jhb134 I said "best (bop)( tenor) solo over (Donna lee)" Also, when did Eager or Thompson or Hawkins record Donna Lee. Where are these recordings? I think you will find they are only in your mind my friend.
Oh, man. This is like arguing over Newton and Leibniz. Wardell was a monster. God rest his soul.
rsalvucc 4 weeks ago
@rsalvucc - Agree, man. ... Wardell, Lucky Thompson and others were some of the BEST of their era. Let's enjoy what they played/improvised ....
jhb134 2 weeks ago
best bop tenor solo over donna lee
decus69 4 months ago
@decus69 - Maybe not the BEST, bop solo, ever .... but one of the BEST of all, esp. from the horn of Mr. Gray. His contribution is VERY good, in it's 3+ minutes (of solo). Interesting, that Art Farmer hardly sounds-like the mellower (but equally-lyrical) trumpeter/fluegelhornist that he became. Hawes, Mondragon and Shelley Manne take-care of the rhythm section, very-capably! MANY thanks for this excerpt/download.
jhb134 3 months ago
@jhb134 Seems that we are not in agreement here. One of the best? Can you direct me to a more precise and lyrical solo over Donna Lee done in Bb by a Tenor saxophonist who was a peer of Mr Grays.Even by today's standard. I'd really like to hear it- though I doubt that you'll be able to come up with anything apart from wind.
decus69 3 months ago
@decus69 - Would you consider Lester Young a peer of Gray's, even though Lester didn't play bop? Also, I might find a Sonny Rollins solo or two, or maybe a succinct example of Lucky Thompson, that could match Gray's - opinions only, of course, and thanks.
jhb134 3 months ago
@jhb134 Young was a peer of Coleman Hawkins-Gray was a peer of Dexter Gordon. Thompson was a swing player-pure swing language. I have Rollins playing (Back Home in Indiana) changes with Babs Gonsalves but it's in the key of F or C not Bb. Rollins solo's for about 8 bars only. Thats why I said" best bop tenor solo over donna lee." There is one more solo by 'Little Bird' but his solo is nowhere as creative nor does he plug the changes as-well as Gray.
BashuUp 3 months ago
@BashuUp - OK, Hawkins was a peer, of MANY, as was Lester Young. Either way, you DID mention the "best bop solo" in specific terms - in "Donna Lee". We shouldn't argue, anymore, about the latter, and Wardell is one of the BEST examples of tenor playing, in the post-WW2 period, OK? I like Thompson, Gray, Allen Eager and other tenor players of their time, as jazz progressed after the wartime years. Again, I appreciate this excerpt, from a hard-to-find recording; it's invaluable!
jhb134 3 months ago
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@jhb134 I said "best (bop)( tenor) solo over (Donna lee)" Also, when did Eager or Thompson or Hawkins record Donna Lee. Where are these recordings? I think you will find they are only in your mind my friend.
BashuUp 3 months ago
not very good sound but the music is breathtaking
tarzan73875 1 year ago