I love ROH and have always been a fan since the early days with Joe, Aries,Homicide McGuiness, Punk etc. and ive enjoyed what they've been doing lately Edwards, Richards and the Briscoes, however i feel that WWE Smackdown has been the show of the year. It's been for the most part consistent with all round great matches and engaging storylines. There were some shows that were like 'meh', but for most of this year its been sweet and better than ROH.
As a casual smart fan who usd to follow both at various times, I can say that 2011 has been very underwhelming for both promotiosn for largely different reasons. The point regarding the way in which WWE handled their pushing of Punk et al, is largly the reason why I think WWE has failed, the Rock's return as well. ROH has struggled to adjust to its new TV deal and its roster does not reflect what they are trying to do which is to make inroads into the internet and MMA market. Great topic guys!
Still, even if ROH is a bit stale at the moment, you're still getting some high quality wrestling matches. Do I think it's stale myself? Not really. I look forward to ROH every week more than I do with WWE or TNA, whom I also watch.
Stupid video. Roh fanboy. Ppl want the wwe to be gone. But guess what, it will not happen. Keep dreaming that roh will surpass the wwe in the future. Wwe will soon have a tuesday show called roh!
@emissaryofevil If you enjoy watching actual wrestling, than ROH has already surpassed WWE with flying colors. I see more violence at a kids playground than in an episode of RAW or SD!
You might agree or not but why so many dislikes? He makes a point, even if they are not right or you dont agree with them dont thumb him down. Gosh youtube society is horrible.
Thanks for the response and maybe I'll make another vid responding to everything as people often bitch about their not being enough discussion vids. Great point about the actual IPPV numbers. I thought the buzz for Death Before Dishonor was very dull this year. I was there with Brian the next big thing. We were both shocked at how jam packed the grand ballroom was. Even though the product was very stale we agreed that they must be doing something right if the attendance and PPV are high
Get ready for all the indy haters to trash this video. For those who come on here and just say indy sucks without even watching all there shows get a life
@Peep4Life93 That's true, they say "don't expect people to stay subbed if you're gonna do nothing but review indy shows,TSlay". Yet, them same brainless morons are still gonna be subbed and will keep thumbing down.
I think smackdown has been the best show this entire year. The christian orton feud, the start of the ryder revolution, dominance of cody rhodes and emergence of mark henry tops all.
I disagree. I personally liked Elimination Chamber and Extreme Rules more than BOTH the 9th Anniversary Show and Best in the World (DVD perspective). And I liked Money in the Bank more than any ROH show this year. ROH has better wrestling but to immediately say they have had better shows I feel is a bit premature. Creating new guys is the big deal really. WWE hasn't truly gotten over new Main Eventers besides Punk but they did elevate several guys in much higher places than before
@bigratthreeten How did they elevate guys the guys you are talking about are in the SAME place they were last year with the exception of Punk and Bryan and Henry out of those 3 Henry is the only one I think they built up because the other two were just as over just the fans had no Faith that WWE would use them. Also what about the other 10 PPVs and the GOD AUFAL Raws this year.
@TSlay1974 The several guys I was talking about were Punk, Bryan, Henry, and slight elevations to Truth and Ryder. Punk was in no way getting the same reactions as last year. He is treated like a big superstars and aside from the house shows gets pretty much the loudest pop every show hes on. Similar to what you said about PWG, its not fait to compare WWE PPV to ROH PPV straight up because WWE has done twice as many PPVs. Raw for me this year has never been awful except from HIAC - SS
@TSlay1974 Not just that, but also consider all of the failed pushes in WWE this year where they did nothing for guys like Del Rio, Miz, R-Truth, Christian, etc.
Chris MASTERS LMAO dude i have lost all respect for anything you say... AND for your info low ki dooesnt want to go to roh he said its full of young boys...
from what I've heard WRP sounds really interesting, Hero, Omega, Pearce, Masters, MVP, Gallows & Ryan on the show, this could be very good I've been following WRP since they started picking up talent this year.
@Berglets proof that tslay can't say anything good about wwe...Just rippin on you tslay I actually agree with a lot of this my big problem with wwe is on average its 5 hours of television a week and if we are lucky a half hour of it is MUST SEE it really just takes too much time and in that respect it is a chore to watch
And with TNA having a massively improved second half of the year (after a dreadful first half), I would say that WWE would definitely be my pick for worst major promotion this year.
The guy trying to argue that WWE had a better year than ROH is absolutely crazy. WWE is up for worst promotion of the year this year. Raw has been absolutely dreadful (probably the worst programming since Nitro near its death) this year with the exception of the 2-3 weeks of Cena/Punk before Punk came back a month early. Their PPVs have usually been below average, with a couple that were awful and 2 or 3 that were really good. Wrestlemania was also terrible this year.
A million views? tna gets around 2 million people on average that cant be possible, that seems like a really high number
jeffhardynextwweman2 1 month ago
SUCK A FUCKING DICK!
HillcrestCapital 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Truth should do more vids with the funny voice.
islamicpancakemix 2 months ago
Why are there weight loss vids in the suggestion bit on this vid?
goth1agw1omw 2 months ago
Sir I cant remember where to go to buy the next ring of honor ippv. if anyone can answer me that would be great thank you
fantomx28 2 months ago
I love ROH and have always been a fan since the early days with Joe, Aries,Homicide McGuiness, Punk etc. and ive enjoyed what they've been doing lately Edwards, Richards and the Briscoes, however i feel that WWE Smackdown has been the show of the year. It's been for the most part consistent with all round great matches and engaging storylines. There were some shows that were like 'meh', but for most of this year its been sweet and better than ROH.
allday87 2 months ago
@allday87 No wwe show is better than ROH. WWE is a fucking kids playground. Get over yourself.
myles755 1 month ago
@myles755 Oh shut up its just an opinion you moron
allday87 1 month ago
@myles755 Yeah i'm the morron. You're the one who sits at home on a friday night watching a show that's less violent than icarly.
myles755 1 month ago
Daniel Bryan won the title the fact they even put the big title on him makes this a good year for wwe plus the summer of punk was fun while it lasted
thegoldenhero 2 months ago
As a casual smart fan who usd to follow both at various times, I can say that 2011 has been very underwhelming for both promotiosn for largely different reasons. The point regarding the way in which WWE handled their pushing of Punk et al, is largly the reason why I think WWE has failed, the Rock's return as well. ROH has struggled to adjust to its new TV deal and its roster does not reflect what they are trying to do which is to make inroads into the internet and MMA market. Great topic guys!
XCQTE 2 months ago
ROH bot that's what you are Josh.
largest85 2 months ago
wrestling as a whole is stale.
Cmpunkmark101 2 months ago
Dude are you possessed ? i was scared, seen the trailer for The Devil Inside too many times.
Manonfire310 2 months ago
Still, even if ROH is a bit stale at the moment, you're still getting some high quality wrestling matches. Do I think it's stale myself? Not really. I look forward to ROH every week more than I do with WWE or TNA, whom I also watch.
corkscrewfoley 2 months ago
Stupid video. Roh fanboy. Ppl want the wwe to be gone. But guess what, it will not happen. Keep dreaming that roh will surpass the wwe in the future. Wwe will soon have a tuesday show called roh!
emissaryofevil 2 months ago
@emissaryofevil No one ever said ROH will surpass WWE, its not happening, youre just a troll.
Manonfire310 2 months ago
@emissaryofevil If you enjoy watching actual wrestling, than ROH has already surpassed WWE with flying colors. I see more violence at a kids playground than in an episode of RAW or SD!
ROH is wrestling
WWE is pathetic.
myles755 1 month ago
@myles755 What are you doing in kids playgrounds?
b1tchlizard 1 week ago
You might agree or not but why so many dislikes? He makes a point, even if they are not right or you dont agree with them dont thumb him down. Gosh youtube society is horrible.
RstandsforRated 2 months ago
16:05...................DEMON !!
adeekomkolokom 2 months ago
1, MMA fans will not watch ROH becomes it comes off as a poorman's MMA.
2. They will not take the focus off of WGTT, at least not until the WM shows.
3. ROH needs a core roster, there are only so many spots on the roster.
4. I respect your opinions, but WWE Smackdown for me and DGUSA/EVOLVE is my favorite indy promotions.
5. What happened to the audio at the end?
FrankSheppard973 2 months ago
Go check out 2kw and give that company support
theshakter 2 months ago
Thanks for the response and maybe I'll make another vid responding to everything as people often bitch about their not being enough discussion vids. Great point about the actual IPPV numbers. I thought the buzz for Death Before Dishonor was very dull this year. I was there with Brian the next big thing. We were both shocked at how jam packed the grand ballroom was. Even though the product was very stale we agreed that they must be doing something right if the attendance and PPV are high
SandersRobin24 2 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
@SandersRobin24 We will see this show being on Friday is not going to help but we will see how it goes.
TSlay1974 2 months ago
@TSlay1974 If you think WWE is better than ROH you need help. Want wrestling? Watch ROH. Want a kids playground? Watch WWE.
Wow who's going to be the next wwe champ? Cena? yeah fucking right...Fuck wwe
myles755 1 month ago
roh sux balls
genext7 2 months ago
@genext7 lol it clearly doesn't
Peep4Life93 2 months ago
Get ready for all the indy haters to trash this video. For those who come on here and just say indy sucks without even watching all there shows get a life
Peep4Life93 2 months ago
@Peep4Life93 That's true, they say "don't expect people to stay subbed if you're gonna do nothing but review indy shows,TSlay". Yet, them same brainless morons are still gonna be subbed and will keep thumbing down.
steeltownbrown52 2 months ago
I think smackdown has been the best show this entire year. The christian orton feud, the start of the ryder revolution, dominance of cody rhodes and emergence of mark henry tops all.
ToneyStackz 2 months ago
I disagree. I personally liked Elimination Chamber and Extreme Rules more than BOTH the 9th Anniversary Show and Best in the World (DVD perspective). And I liked Money in the Bank more than any ROH show this year. ROH has better wrestling but to immediately say they have had better shows I feel is a bit premature. Creating new guys is the big deal really. WWE hasn't truly gotten over new Main Eventers besides Punk but they did elevate several guys in much higher places than before
bigratthreeten 2 months ago 6
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@bigratthreeten How did they elevate guys the guys you are talking about are in the SAME place they were last year with the exception of Punk and Bryan and Henry out of those 3 Henry is the only one I think they built up because the other two were just as over just the fans had no Faith that WWE would use them. Also what about the other 10 PPVs and the GOD AUFAL Raws this year.
TSlay1974 2 months ago
@TSlay1974 The several guys I was talking about were Punk, Bryan, Henry, and slight elevations to Truth and Ryder. Punk was in no way getting the same reactions as last year. He is treated like a big superstars and aside from the house shows gets pretty much the loudest pop every show hes on. Similar to what you said about PWG, its not fait to compare WWE PPV to ROH PPV straight up because WWE has done twice as many PPVs. Raw for me this year has never been awful except from HIAC - SS
bigratthreeten 2 months ago
@TSlay1974 Not just that, but also consider all of the failed pushes in WWE this year where they did nothing for guys like Del Rio, Miz, R-Truth, Christian, etc.
Trademark629 2 months ago
@bigratthreeten Punk is the only new main eventer that matters. Nobody cares about Miz, Sheamus, modern wrestlers simply dont have star power.
Bloodsport1 1 month ago
Chris MASTERS LMAO dude i have lost all respect for anything you say... AND for your info low ki dooesnt want to go to roh he said its full of young boys...
187ARS187 2 months ago
@187ARS187 You heard that from me!!!!
Trademark629 2 months ago
WWE>
187ARS187 2 months ago
16:05 the rebirth of EVIL TRUTHSLAYER
Trademark629 2 months ago
That vid got scary near the end. If the Briscoes are the biggest stars in your company then you are in trouble.
ryder4lifer 2 months ago
from what I've heard WRP sounds really interesting, Hero, Omega, Pearce, Masters, MVP, Gallows & Ryan on the show, this could be very good I've been following WRP since they started picking up talent this year.
TheMADScientist7890 2 months ago
The ME of tonight's Raw was definitely entertaining.
EzekielWinnfield 2 months ago
YOU sound terrible
IrishRisingFilms 2 months ago
ROH seems very amaturish and 2nd rate to me imo. i just cant get into the weekly show.
YWCAddict84 2 months ago
chris masters is awesome.
IDante1Savage 2 months ago
lol people really dont like this video
MasterOctagon 2 months ago
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fuck ROH
guydavisman 2 months ago 14
@guydavisman go play in traffic.
TraciPeteyforlife 2 months ago
16.05? erm what
Berglets 2 months ago 17
@Berglets proof that tslay can't say anything good about wwe...Just rippin on you tslay I actually agree with a lot of this my big problem with wwe is on average its 5 hours of television a week and if we are lucky a half hour of it is MUST SEE it really just takes too much time and in that respect it is a chore to watch
bascrd 2 months ago
Still on the WWE's cock since 2007.
RJElite 2 months ago
And with TNA having a massively improved second half of the year (after a dreadful first half), I would say that WWE would definitely be my pick for worst major promotion this year.
MattRamsayMoore 2 months ago
The guy trying to argue that WWE had a better year than ROH is absolutely crazy. WWE is up for worst promotion of the year this year. Raw has been absolutely dreadful (probably the worst programming since Nitro near its death) this year with the exception of the 2-3 weeks of Cena/Punk before Punk came back a month early. Their PPVs have usually been below average, with a couple that were awful and 2 or 3 that were really good. Wrestlemania was also terrible this year.
MattRamsayMoore 2 months ago
Good vid bro.
NYG4LIFE123 2 months ago
YOU sound terrible hope your ok
IrishRisingFilms 2 months ago
four wrestlers i want to be in ROH next year IMO willie mack, sami callihan, chuck taylor and long shot would be prince devitt.
fullmetal2k8 2 months ago
@fullmetal2k8 Devitt? A long shot? That's an understatement.
telkevolon 2 months ago
A million...WOW...
danesesse 2 months ago
@pilotboy500 No I have respect for both brands you douche.
WWEBeast7 2 months ago
You have the wierdest related sidebar videos ever.
666ThaScarecro666 2 months ago 4
Totally agree great video!
WWEBeast7 2 months ago