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  • @dunemoonbeam3 i agree they are not. but america does make some supercars. saleen s7, the top of the line corvette is a super car, the ford gt, dodge viper, ssc ultimate aero, mosler mt900, rossion q1. i realize the ford gt was discontinued but im a ford guy so had to mention it but anyway that is more than any other single country i can think of. right?

  • Fisker Karma should be in there in my opinion.

  • I agree, Peugeot was the better race car!

  • What criteria does best have to include JF?

    JF: be an audi

  • boss 302????

    

  • It's a shame that this combination isn't going to continue. Great mesh of personality, entertaining, and informative. Every time I see this team up it seems they are talking to me not just a crowd, and as a bonus I don't end up angry as I did with the other contributor....

  • out of everything lexus/toyota has done recently... the LFA is just more of it.... overpriced, blindly endorsed shit... toyota wont admit their lineup is sucking honda, hyundai, ford and most everyone elses dick. and then they come out with an overpriced exotic that one year later is already less impressive than most of its competators....

    AND they F'ed up the brz, mr2, scion thing. they have not done ANYTHING right for a LONG time. well the yaris isnt that bad i guess

  • Cool episode JF and Leo! I will be checking out Drive for sure!

  • Guys...I love FLD and I understand that production costs play a HUGE roll in the episodes, but I have to say that two guys sitting there talking does not make for a good "car" show on Youtube.

  • Now I have to find MaxPayne19146 s comment :P

  • My List :

    Best looking car for 2011 : RANGE ROVER EVOQUE

    Best engine 2011 : BMW M5 F10's 4.4 Twin scroll Turbo 560bhp V8 S63

    Best concept car revealed in 2011 : ALFA ROMEO 4C

    Car of the Year 2011 : Chevrolet Volt...hahaha seriously...i'd go for INFINITY M35Hh HYBRID

  • No Aventador?

  • Don't agree with you about the looks of the evora. It looks too placid.

  • Is it me or is JF a american car hating fanboy, its not americas fault that the boss 302 is better than most of audis line up specialy in the 40k price tag. Oh and I forgot about the viper made the lfa its b**ch for 1/4 the price

  • I liked the show with Alex but it is miles ahead with Leo. I'm not saying its going to be worse with Mike but kinda hard to top.

  • Where's the cayman r?!!!

  • spot on with the Cruze. the thing has dominated the WTCC, beating out BMW 3 series, for the past 2 years. and GM in the U.S. pretends like that never even happened. how in the world do they not promote the hell out of that in the U.S., while promoting their NASCAR championships constantly?

  • @keviiinn In fairness to Chevy, may have to ask them at the Detroit Auto Show if there is a US plan as the WTCC Cruze has been on display at the last 2 US auto shows and there IS a rumored performance Cruze coming. But, who knows with those guys.

  • Leo hit the nail on the head for me about the LFA. I agree with everything he said about that car!!

  • YOU TWO NEED TO HAVE YOUR OWN SHOW!!!!

    You guys are great together and you need more time!

  • what's with the ending song 8:30.........

  • What happened to Lotus and their long time goal to keep cars light and small. Each year they add more electronics...even the lotus has automatic windows.

  • Mike Spinelli...have not seen him in so many episodes.

  • Um... MP4-12C? Can I get an amen. Or the SLS?

  • Glad to hear i'm not the only one that can't stand the LFA..you're the man Leo!!

  • the best car is the Cadillac CTS-V Sport Wagon. You can accelerate faster than a ferrari california, take the 6.2 L supercharged 556 hp v8 round the track, carry your groceries, carry you kids, its a familymobile. The best of all worlds

  • 6:50 Pouty face hahah

  • It was a good run guys. Looking forward to Mike though. First time I ever watched FLD or went to Jalopnik was after Mike was on Garage419 with Matt talking about used supercars. Its been nothing but laughs and cool cars since.

  • i would say the new 550i/M5

  • "the Fucking car feels great ". Best comment ever from Leo.

  • where´s the aventador?

  • Road testament is awesome without Alex Roy. Please fire him before you begin the Driven channel continuation of FLD

  • @XenoRacing You DO realize Alex discovered JF right? JF was a fan of Alex when he was running the transcontinental stuff and Gumball 3000. One thing led to another and all this happened. I actually prefer Alex over most of the guys.

  • Leo ftw

  • 1M hands down best of the bunch

  • For me best car are.

    GT3 RS 4.0

    458 Spider

    GT3R Hybrid

    458 GT3

    RB7 Chassis #2,4,6 (aka non Vettle chassis)

    hmm what's all these have in common? :P

  • Hey Toyota F1 (disregarding the amount of money they spend = to Ferrari +Mclaren some say) Did pick up a lot of podiums, Had pole positions + front row lock out. And in the last home race and 2nd last race came a close P2 (2009 Japan GP) with Jarno fending off a Mclaren with Lewis in it. People think they were a joke but one more year and what could of been. People laugh at Honda and what did Brawn do? Williams with Toyota powered was relatively successful as well.

  • @phantomloita Now, I'm going 2 sound real 'catty' when I disount most of the few Toyota pole positions when u look at how early they race-pitted, exposing how lightly fueled they were 2 get P1. The podiums were not that many [1 those yrs they looked on plan, then fell back, again]. And it's too easy 2 always say '1 more yr' w/ Toyota Motorsport [F1 + LM24. But, that said, I want Toyota 2 be successful IF they are going 2 race. So, their LMP1-Hybrid vs Audi + Pug knows what it needs 2 do.

  • leo seems like a guy ud love to get drunk with and talk cars too till sun up !!

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  • Thank you LEO for your comments on the stinkin' LFA!!!!

  • Best fun car : Boss 302. Best supercar : Mclaren MP4-12 Best Show off car : Aventador Best race car : Red bull F1 for sure... Best new small car : Veloster

  • Cayman R, GT3 RS 4.0?! MY #1 and #2

  • I still believe the Audi R8 LMS should have made that list. It out preformed so many other cars in races and it was part of Audi's customer racing program which just allowed it to accel much more. When the car is racing for Audi and just anyone who can buy it, while still winning, it makes for a great car.

  • The dude on the left oozes pompous butthole!

  • honestly J.F.'s list was pretty weak no 458, Aventador, GTR

  • why do these guys hate american cars so much

  • STOP PIMP'N DRIVE, i subscribed already!!!! We all know its gona be good so don't worry so much about trying to sell it, if were watching fld chances are were going to support you in anything you guys do i mean come one look at my screen name lol no that's dedication. great video guys keep it up.

  • Where the hell is ARoy?

  • JF you picked ferrari FF over McLaren MP4-12C??

  • Le Mans is THE race to win, no one cares that peugeot dominated the ILMC in LMP1 compared to audi winning the LM24 winning after 24 hours sais alot more about the car and effort the team put into win compared to winning a few 6 hour races

  • looking back im really going to miss seeing jf and alex go at it every thursday. even though sometimes the setup was lame or dry or whatever, they always had a good point of view on many issues in the automotive world. i really hope we continue to see a jf/alex duo somewhere because sometimes you need a fresh look on the automotive world.

  • Don't get me wrong I love JF and Leo, but wheres Alex? And JF you guys never did tell us which car Alex bought!

  • i would pick Lamborghini AVENTADOR as number 1

  • where the Fuck is Alex?

    

  • EVORA S!? ... come on. Okay great car but...

    Aventador, GTR, MP4, GT3 RS 4.0, SLS, Cayman R, XKR-S??

  • he really is crazy for saying lfa instead of the boss 302. The boss was purpose built to take down the m3 and even took down the 09 r8 in the process. the lfa did nothing besides rev. The boss is affordable, while you can buy a small country for the price of the lfa. boss 302 should have been a no brainer

  • Colin Chapman wouldn't approve of the Evora...i would of subbed it for the BAWUS 302, GTR, or F10 M5

  • Why not have a link to this new drive channel in the Description

  • Dacia Sandero for best car of the year!!!

  • @MaxPayne19146 best car of all time

  • @MaxPayne19146

    best car of the past 100 years

  • @MaxPayne19146

    best car of the decade IMO

  • No Aventador?

  • @SavageSanchez read this comment and immediately stopped watching the video...

  • A mustang boss doesn't beat a vette you dumb p.o.s.

    Don't you look at motortrend's track times? Vette is a full 4 seconds quicker

  • Is this the last time I have to hear BedHead say"Fast Wane DayWee"?

  • Here's the bigger list that was in my mind prepping for the show. RB7, R8 LMS, 458GTE [not the Grand-Am ones for either A or F], Pug 908 [then, the R18], TTRS GT4, Citroen WRC, Fiesta WRC, Renault F1 [many rad mods], Z4 GT3, Golf G24 4WD, Ford Formula Ford concept, 911 Hybrid 2.0, Cruze WTCC, Glick P4/5 GT, McLaren MP4-12C GT3, MB SLS, Holden V8 Supercar, Focus RT, BMW M3 GT ALMS, BRZ SuperGT [but it's really a 2012 candidate], and....and....[Commenter below added GT-R, I added Nissan LMP2]

  • I'm a little surprised that the GTR didn't make the race car list. The Nismo GT-R won the FIA GT1 championship and it dominated Super GT over the HSV.

  • @HughesTuning Good points. AND you reminded me the Nissan LMP2 could be considered, too. In debut yr, it won Le Mans 24 + the ILMC championship [have to check on that].

  • @HughesTuning but they are 2 completely different cars, and the Super GT GTR isn't really a GTR, just a shell

  • The Cruze DOMINATED WTCC. It was the car of the top three in 2011 championship, Chevy won manufactures and they look to continue too into 2012.

    Also, if you like verity racing, check out World Challenge. GT, GTS and TCs all on the same track. Great cars, real aggressive racing here in the US. ^_^

  • Well even though the Audi R18 won Le Mans and lost everything else, who cares. In 10 years no will remember who won the ILMC this year but they will remember who won Le Mans this year.

  • These people are like bias against any American cars

  • Glad to see the LFA get some love, but no GTR? In my opinion, this years GTR was the best performing v6 of all time when it was built. The 2013 GTR v6 pulling 0-60 in about 2.7 probably takes the cake at this point.

  • @Israeli3030 a boring car that takes no skill to drive. as a matter of fact, you don't drive the GTR, you "operate" it. yeah its fast, but that's all it has.

  • @Israeli3030 I couldn't agree with you more.

  • @Israeli3030 gtr did not debut in 2011....

  • @Israeli3030 wtf 2013 isn't even close yet

  • @Israeli3030 agreed, kicks the shit out of the LFA lol

  • @Israeli3030 Every acne-covered teenager worships the GTR. It's fast, has four seats, easily tuned. Sure, you could argue there's passion in it, too. But it's hard to root for the car which gets far more than its fair share of love. Some great cars are ignored simply because the GTR excels in its video-game like point and shoot nature. Sure, it probably deserves to be on JF and Leo's list. But I'd rather it not be, lest I be deprived of other cars with more purpose than solely Nurburgring speed.

  • @AventadorSuperVeloce Well, I just happen to respect Japanese cars and that's the reason why GT-R is in my list of favorite cars. It doesn't look that great but it's otherwise awesome as fuck.

  • @piuthemagicman Don't respect cars because of race. Race plays absolutely 0% into ability of making cars. Saying otherwise is racist.

    But yeah, I agree with you on the level that the GTR is a great car. But I believe it's over-hyped and there are better cars out there. Of course, to each his own. I would prefer the 458 any day, even a Gallardo or loaded C63 (Black Series or not). Styling plays a lot into my emotion and passion for cars, and the GTR does not cut it for me.

  • Jf should take a shower before doing the show. He looks like a BUM!

  • no mustang, damn u haters

  • 2011 mustang family, the v6 is 300hp drives great and bace price is a super low 22k?

    the gt is over 400hp is super fun to drive tons of Torque and is 32k.the BOSS is a track car with a license plate and beats the breaks oof a new m3 or vett foe half the money!!!!

    and the SHELBY cars are and just plain EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!

  • @nismo1480 No one wants a V6 muscle car.

  • I'm not a big Porsche fan... but we got to hand it to them, the Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 is just amazing. For me is the big difference maker, and the pick for best car of 2011 ;)

  • It seems to me that Nurburg is the proving ground for all things fast so why doesn't the LFA's fastest lap of the Nordschleife earn any respect for Toyota? Maybe because their mass market appeal is the antithesis to the idea of enthusiast motoring? I am just having a hard time making the brand connection.

    Looking forward to the 24 Hours video. Keep up the good work guys.

  • um....no one mentioned the 991 Carrera lol

  • Why did JF grow such a fantastic beard?

  • will jf have his own piece of the drive pie?

  • no mustang gt?

    pretty big improvement over a 2010

  • @flyjum A big improvement, yes. But still nothing amazing.

  • Just got home from work. Made a little pasta, popped open a Stella, and sat down to FLD. Thanks for all the work that goes into this guys!

  • You guys are so much better at this than Alex.

  • m not shocked at all with LFA in the list.. In fact I would have been surprised if it wasn't included.. Its a bloody good car.. It might not be that fast but damn that thing appeals on a different level altogether!

  • all new amgs

  • I think we all are loving what FLD has become... from daily car news to car reviews and now racing and a little of stroy telling. Love the show. Big Hug All the way from Mexico! Happy Holiday Leo and JF and the FLD Crew!

  • Can't wait for DRIVE

  • Why Race cars? Because Leo.

    Also, great news to hear that I will no longer see Alex as I feel he rarely has contributed to the show's discussion.

  • i hate spinelli

  • shooting break is HORRIBLY UGLY!!

    I can't even believe it actually exists...

  • leo is completely right about the lfa

  • Oh cool Mike Spinelli. He's awesome. I know a lot of people don't like Alex Roy. Here's to yet another year of FLD

  • If I see Alex again I will click thumbs down and have all my friends do it too

  • u got it leo! the LFA is the worst concept to ever be created by toyota

  • @95tman why?

    

  • @weed46 because for 500 grand you could buy a much nicer car. ferrari? lambo? etc.

  • @95tman i would never want to own a 500 grand toyota

  • @95tman If you have 500 grand you can likely buy all of those. Price is ignored at this range.

  • @95tman LFA its a Halo car, it's not comparable.... Ferrari and lambos are nice until they realease a new one... do you care about the F430? or the old gallardo? No.... nobody cares about them....

    LFA is an exclusive car, I saw the other day on in person, and when you see the interior, you would get amazed by the atention to detail in the Lexus....

    LFA is like a aston martin ONE-77, Alfa 8C, or a GT3 4.0, they are colectable cars.

  • great video guys! Leo is still the man

  • great as usual.

  • so stoked for the new format for FLD and Drive next year, itll be awesome to see derek d 5 days a week with more exclusive content for shakedown and road testament on drive. i hope drive gets huge cause it sounds like a winning plan

  • why not the veloster

    

  • The Team Vodafone 88 and 888 cars from the V8 Supercar series should have recieved a mention. Any reasons why not?

  • @Brooksy888Whincup Funny you should say. Pop over to FaceBook post on htis show to see the complete list of racecars I had in mind. OMFG, Holden made the list!

  • @LeoParente Good to see an Australian brand on there. But I'd say the Triple 8 engineered Holdens exclusively. They finished 1-2 in the championship and have dominated all season. The other Holden teams and the works team all struggled for pace on a frequent basis. Both Ford and Holden works team say T8 is a step ahead of everyone!

  • BMW M5 F10 THE END BEST CAR OFF 2011

  • @adildo9 Turbocharging an M5 and making the exhaust note not fully real, I'd say hell no to that one.

  • leo likes cars that are small?!?! someone's UNDERcompensating... hahahahaha

  • Leo's face when JF said the "LFA" is priceless.

  • Loving these Road Testament episodes with Leo. I think the LFA is pretty great for being Lexus's first attempt at a supercar, its not without flaws but overall a great first attempt.

  • fuckin car feels great :) i love lotus

  • Nice to hear the Cruze team won.. last time i tuned on to a wtcc event, the cruze was getting its ass handed to it by the renault team (i think it was)...

  • FUCKING CAR FEELS GREAT!! FUCK YEAH! GO LEO!

  • Ok guys, where is the Boss 302? Leo did a review on it this year and even gave it high praise. I know you're not muscle car fans, but you don't have to be a Mustang fan boy to appreciate what Ford did with that car. $40K, 444 hp, faster than "big brother" Shelby (2012) and it schools the M3 on and off the track. I think it's a big mistake on your part for not even mentioning it.

  • @mercracer24 agreed.

    the boss is a fantastic car.

    it actually handles pretty well. (unlike fords other mustangs)

    Its basically a track car for only 40k.

  • great episode

  • Did Leo say "the fucking car feels great" at 6:58 ?

  • True, RML Cruzes are dominant in WTCC, but they're dominating a bunch of small private teams and the championship itself has lost pretty much all of its relevance, unfortunately.

  • WOW I watched a whole episode FLD you guys should keep this up!!!!

  • None of the new breed of 1.6L WRC cars made it? I thought you liked small cars? Come on Leo. The citroen DS3 was dominant enough. The Mini WRC looks cool and sounds so good, bap bap bap.

  • @mbc92028 Citroen was on my list [for reasons you gave] Fiesta was there, too because how it looks [esp the Black edition] + everyone including Foust + Block + Gronholm made it work in Extreme / Rallycross racing. Mini, no..... Still needs to get better, despite its throttle-off over-run engine sounds. Tried to cover myself by saying there are SO many [best 2011 racecar] choices. Ehh.

  • I hope the world doest end next year, then no more fast lane daily and road testament. Hey does anybody know if the tttrs gt4 was fwd? Cause i heard that the audi ttrs racer was fwd

  • yes the ff. the LFA cost to much. If you want it get a Audi R8 GT. Okay good BMW. I like the Z5. I like how you guys like audi. Yes lotus I've been in it. I dont like the croze.

  • Ferrari 458 spider 

  • @husnainanwaar1992 sorry but the 458 italia spyder is a flop, its not as sharp as the coupe, so your not buying it for speed, so then get a proper spyder that looks amazing like an audi R8 and save nearly 150k

  • Yesss! NO Alex!

  • Very interesting picks on both sides. My only objection would be the LFA.

    Can't wait for /DRIVE!

  • Range Rover Evoque? Haven't heard a bad review on it.

  • Loving how good Road Testament has gotten and love the idea of Spinelli getting involved. Fast Lane Daily and Jalopnik are my two main locations for quality car news and I love the fact that you guys are working together in the Drive channel.

  • question for FLD "witch is the best racing game f1 2011 ,forza Motorsport 4 ?

  • No One say Merry Christmas anymore ?

  • @yallamusic pc cowards.

    it's of course christmas. those who don't celebrate christmas can enjoy their time off but it's still christmas.

    that christmas has been corrupted into a heathen dance around a pine tree and not about Jesus Christ, that's another matter

  • @yallamusic Merry Christmas babe

  • @yallamusic Stop! [and Dan below, too] Not being PC, just 'throwing the most time-efficient blanket' over all as we quickly closed the vid..... Wait for tomorrow's ShakeDown [think I said a few diff Happy's + Merry's].

    And, BTW, if I have to keep politics out of MY rants, then religion goes the same place. But, IMO, any subject is open season + to me THAT's the pc way.

    Merry Everything to Everybody!!

  • @LeoParente lol  Mr Parente thank you and Merry Christmas to you too ...its also good to hear that you will be on road testament... btw i like the new channel good job guys :)

  • Alex Roy is cool. Every time Alex opens his mouth it is hilarious.Favorite moment with Alex is when talking about Vector.

  • FF.. Meh.. Your RB7 was an RB6.. Gawd!! The LFA is a shiny turd! Why pick it?! Ok.. The 908 was brilliant but the R18 is crash proof!!

    Thanks for the Road Testament on FLD guys! It's been fantastic! Can't wait for DRIVE!!

  • @DaRealPatMan RB6? I hope not because while I do not edit, it was discussed and the pic was changed once already to get the right RB7 shot. Inifniti badge, no sharkfin, the right mirror mounts, sideboards and front wheels. Did we still blow it?

  • @LeoParente I just looked again there and I originally thought it was an RB6 running Pirelli's but looking agin it is an RB7! It has the No.1 on the wing to the left of the side pod and that is a 2011 Red Bull race number!

  • best Road Testament of 2011,yes.

  • What about the mustang boss, very cheap and goes from 0-60 in less than 3 seconds and on top of that it takes 17 mpg city and around 20 highway I forgot exactly how much

  • Definitely the BMW 1M. It is fast, affordable, and a trend setter. Just in the spirit of the Ultimate Driving Machine, it should ask for a sacrifice of the right arm and left leg.

  • the guy in black sucks

    

  • @rodrigo105 Back at ya! Merry f**king Christmas to you, too.

  • I pity the guys at Peugeot.

    Peugeot won 6 of the 7 Le Mans Cup races this year and yet Audi gets all the press for winning a single race.

  • @Molo9000 Not from ME.

  • I was surprised that JF did not select the Cayman R.

  • HELLO FLD!!!

  • Wow this is the only Road Testament I actually liked. PLEASE EVERYBODY LIKE THIS VIDEO FOR THEIR HARD WORK!

  • Great episode, I'd say it's very accurate although I might would've changed a few things if it was up to me to decide. Always love the Road Testament and it will be interesting to see how things play out on Drive!

  • woop 5 days of derek d

  • As long as alex doesnt do it then it is going to be great.

  • is JF tryin' the beard for more edge??

  • Leo face at 2:53 when told about the LFA was hilarious!

  • Having seen the WTC replays I can back Leo up on his pick of the Cruze, it's ridiculously fast at a wide variety of courses AND in the hands of different drivers, all of which points to it being a helluva little drivers car.

  • What about the Aventador (cue the Italian music)!?