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  • listen to that bass. I love showing this to the emo kids who listen to their new albums, and they go, "Who is this? This is awful" I tell them it's their favorite band AFI who sold out and went emo for a wad of cash.

    The old albums rawk.

  • @ColtonMcBonesHeil haha i like pretty much all their albums even some of crash love

  • @michaelstraley..............y­ou must be a girl, they have grown up on the sense that they have mortgages and car notes to pay thats the reason for the "their new sound" and they know that if you play punk rawk its because you don't have bills to pay and you do it for the love of music.........Thats why we have to thank them for their early albums.....they always wake me up in the morning.

  • ilikethem c: better like this :3

  • this song is the exact opposite of "I Wanna Be Sedated" by the Ramones

  • rancid too and , the living end, guttermouth too.. theres a few

  • this band has changed file 13 to miss murder

  • I’ve been an huge afi fan for a lllooooonnnggggggg time, and Im here on a big ol’ nostalgia trip and its fucking awesome, and to all the younger kids just getting into them now, I salute you, its fucking awesome that you were here a couple hours ago listening to old afi and not drake or some shit.

  • I was raised on this music, and proud of it.

  • have u seen a long comment on the top rated and skim it and just call the dude an ass?

  • Hey look at Nofx and Bad Religion they play the same style and it doesn't get old at all. I love AFI's old stuff but i really can't say that for their newer stuff. I wish Davey will start to sing punk back, he was a better vocalist back in my opinion. Now he relies on wimpy vocals. Well at least the newer stuff is better than pop and shit core.

  • idk y but i keep listening to this song >:D

  • I ching <-----

  • Totally sick song. What the fuck happened to this fantastic band. They just started taking themselves too seriously methinks.

  • Compare this to there Terrible new shit.

  • well kids you see the problem with all these comments is certain people grew up on afi, bringing them music to rage to. they were a hardcore punk band. and we are all bitching about what afi has done because no other hardcore band has ever gone so gay. keith morris went from black flag to circle jerks now to OFF! he didnt wear make up and cry, he grew some gnarly dreads and rocks the fuck out to this day!

  • What the FUCK happend to them!???

  • @alejoquesada77 far as ik....... the emo ppl toke over

  • TOP NOTCH!!!!!!!!! RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

  • It's all AFI

    why should a band have to conform to what people want them to sound like (old or new)

    If they wanted to make this kind of music over and over again, they would. if they didn't they wouldn't.

    the band makes the music. you either like it or you don't. and EVERYONE is allowed their own opinion x

  • @fpmusic amen. :)

  • THIS IS AFI

  • I sure as fuck wouldn't make 10 records sounding like this. They have definitely found their sound. It's not like all of us stay the same forever. I've sure changed from when I first listened to AFI up until now.

  • @michaelstraley this shits on their new stuff easy

  • This album changed my life! I very strongly hate every album they made after this, but that's just my opinion!

  • they played this when i saw them a few weeks ago.

  • Can we just all agree that AFI sucks now and was awesome before?

  • congratualtions, if youre reading this you probably dont have an mp3 player. good job

  • I lol'd

  • I LOVE AFI

    i compare them alot to my

    OBSESSION

    the red hot chili peppers.

    i appreciate everyone of there songs, and i like to listen to themm grow and change.

    Change is a good thing. inmost cases

    with AFI and RHCP

    i deffinetly think there change sounds great.

    =D

  • i agree with AFIForever1..

  • Everybody here is still talking about Decemberunderground, but its now Crash Love!!! its way better than DU, but its more poppy

  • Best fucking song ever.

  • minor threat, black flag, decendents

  • I'm also young but I think that if some of their newer fans who only know STS and DU are kinda sad, because they haven't heard a lot of the history behind the newer albums.

    Oh well, they didn't sell out, I hate that term anyway, I just think that if you honestly played punk for what, 10 years, you'd get really annoyed by the same stuff.

    If you listen to a band that keeps the same style for their entire discography, it gets boring.

    So, sorry to rant, but those are my two-cents.

  • Finally...someone who agrees with me. All of their stuff is great to me. <3

  • nothing worse than ignorance

  • That's a weak argument. There are loads of bands that don't change their style and keep producing great records. Why? Because they are good songwriters. AFI can't write good songs any more because they sold out.

  • You can keep believing what you'd like to believe. As will I.

  • Well you're not a real music fan then.

  • im more of a fan then you'll ever be

  • they have more than enough money they didn't sell out they're trying out different styles faggot

  • Yeah they have money because they sold out

  • they have so much money from all the albums they sold they have about 17 retard how the fuck is selling your music to ppl selling out? that would mean that every band in the world is a sell out and they aren't take your head out of your ass

  • Ok, I'll spell it out for you.  AFI completely changed everything about themselves to get more exposure. This is called "selling out".

  • it wasn't to get more exposure it was to change they're style up nobody likes a band who has the exact same style on everything for 17 years dumb ass they changed their music cause maybe they felt different wanted to write something new instead of the same old stuff they'd always been doing and people should be alowed to be able to change their hair style and not be called sell outs by faggots like you

  • wow that made no sense

    sure bands can keep the same style and write good songs

    or they can do what AFI did and flex their songwriting muscles to the fullest extent

    and keep their real fans and drop off posers like you

  • You're still implying that bands who change their style are better than bands that don't which is absolute bullshit. And please explain how I'm a poser for not liking their later output.

  • i never said bands who change are better than bands who stay the same

    i just said it was in their best interest and the real fans understand that

    while poser as explaining the second part of your question

    complain on every afi song video about why they changed and how they were better punk

    their punk days were cool yes but bands change expand into a wider range of music experimenting with different sounds and styles

    so if u dont like it keep it to yourself

    or expect to be called out on it

  • Fuck off, it's my opinion. There's nothing to be "called out" on. I don't see why showing my distaste for their newer stuff is in any way posing. Don't tell me you've never complained about something in your life. I'm sick of these holier-than-thou "fans" thinking they're superior because they like both the new and old songs.

    Yes some bands change but 9 times out of 10 they sound worse. If you want to experiment, start a side project.

  • haha you're an angry little guy

  • Call me what you want but you've just proved me right

  • not really

  • well why aren't you trying to prove me wrong like you usually do then?

  • well it's no fun when people start getting nasty

    esp. online *sarcasm*

    no but seriously i dont appreciate it

    we can both agree that this is an awesome album though right?

    but tell me this, if AFI was as popular as they were in the 90's but were still making the same music

    obviously they wouldnt be called sell-outs

    but would u honestly still not like sing the sorrow and decemberunderground?

  • Popularity has nothing to do with it - all I care about is the music. I would still call them sellouts if they became LESS popular. The reality is that the mainstream media do not care about real honest music because it doesn't make money. And hardcore is about honesty and reality. Two things that are no longer present in AFI.

  • well then that's your opinion

    maybe if i liked punk or harcore as much as you i would probaly say the same things, but i honestly could care less for the stuff

    besides like AFI, rancid, minor threat, and a few other punk bands i really am not a fan of it

  • See, this is exactly my point. People like you try and talk about punk and hardcore even though you don't know much about it. This is because AFI is a pop band and all their new fans like pop music.

  • probaly

    i really dont know much about hardcore

    or punk

    but im really not a fan of pop music neither

    i just like AFI

    i listen to lots of types of music

    that may be why i dont care that much if they change so drastically, aslong as the music is good

    and in my opinion it is

    their punk and pop stuff

    but yeah most the new fans just like them cause miss murder is catchy and poppy

  • @HoosierMF

    Bullshit.

    I may not know much about punk, but unfortunately I have endure enough pop to know AFI isnt pop.

    The new stuff is just more catchy, and easier to learn because it's slower.

  • @HoosierMF

    Did you just read yourself before pressing "Post Comment " ? They haven't got honesty and reality ? Have you even listened to the new material. They still are stating the same things as they were stating years ago. Never sold out , but repetitive drum bits and fast power chords won't define their opinions on the world. De facto they are still the same.

  • Yeah I have listened to it and it's shit. Overpolished soulless shit. Fact is, you can't have nice suits and haircuts and massive light shows if you play hardcore. So i guess something had to change.

  • @HoosierMF

    You definitly have no Idea what you're talking about... They aren't some lame rockstars who are living their fancy cashfull life , they still hang out with fans and they still are the same... And no , they aren't a hardcore band , never were. They were just a band , they changed genres every single fucking time they released a new album , get used to it or cry some more. Your choice.

  • Oh yeah you're right. That's why they called themselves EBHC.

  • When they did EBHC style , they called them selves EBHC, they were self-called horror-punk followers while BSITS and AOD. So ? They liked the genre at the time and thought it fit them , and it did. And around and around. I wouldn't mind if their next album is a freaking opera as long as they stick to their ideologies.

  • They were obviously a hardcore band up to BSITS. Davey always had the Danzig worship thing going on from the early days but they never called themselves horror punk.

    What "ideologies"? You make it sound like a fucking political party. What they are is a band with no focus or drive. There's no soul or feeling behind their music any more. It's just shallow overpolished shit.

  • @HoosierMF

    Then you heard nothing if you think that it is a shalow overpolished shit. There is soul , there is a statement and there is in fact the old hardcore spirit. They c't scream , or jump or do the punk-beats any more since they aren't as energetic as they used to be , but Fuck they are tryin to stay behind their every word. And people like you can't understand that they never stated that they'll be Hardcore forever , yet they maintained living to honour their thoughts.

  • That's bullshit and you know it. If they can prance around the stage like girls then they can play hardcore. You make it sound like they're fucking grandads.

    "Honour their thoughts"?? That sentence makes no sense. All I care about is the music - it's either good or shit. All this bollocks about sticking with them whatever they do is poser talk.

  • @HoosierMF No point in talking with ignorant people. Not participating in further discussion. You are just closed inside this box you can't pass through . They still make music and it's not hardcore. But you can't fucking call them sellouts cause it isn't for the money and you and I both know it...

  • Of course they are sellouts. Look at how many interviews and photo shoots they do. They wanted to be more popular so it's obviously not just about the music.

  • @HoosierMF Ain't for the money... You know nothing about them today ... You just think that they are another pop-stars.. Well , your choice.

  • Prove it. Look at the expensive promo videos and stage shows. They look like pop stars to me.

  • @HoosierMF I don't judge by looks , and what promotion videos ? Have you seen the beautiful thieves video ?

    That one was basically a slap in the face to the capitalistic society.

  • Err how exactly?

  • @HoosierMF They go in and kill everyone who represent the modern society which is all about having fun and not being self-concious.

    Exactly what he said in Perfect Fit , he can't be a part of the modern world .

  • @BlindMkd No, you're wrong. The song is about how you can get away with anything if you have enough money. So it's not about not fitting in or a "capitalistic" society.

    The video itself doesn't have much meaning. They just poison some rich people.

  • @HoosierMF You just proved your ignorance .

    Whatch the video "Beautiful Thieves (Making of) " Davey explains what is it about...

  • @BlindMkd I couldn't give a fuck what Davey says. He's contradicted himself enough times in the past.

  • @HoosierMF Since you have no clue what so ever how he contradicted himself , you said nothing.

    Good day sir. This argument is over.

  • @BlindMkd Write a proper sentence and maybe I'd be able to answer you.

  • @HoosierMF Oh sorry mister perfect , but being superficial as you are you I bet you haven't noticed that I'm not english and english is not my first nor second language , it's infact the fourth language I learnt and It's not my best side. Therefor any comment regarding my grammar , spelling , whatsoever will be ignored from my point of view . Either comment on the essence of the thought or don't comment at all.

  • I couldn't give a fuck whether it's your first language or not. I can't understand what you wrote.

  • @HoosierMF Well explaning what part you haven't understood would have made it easier , I could refrase it .

  • @BlindMkd

    THANK FUCK someone finally said this.

  • Agreed. Do it the old hardcore way and break up after 2 or 3 records tops. Then we wouldn't have known about Davey turning into a little girl.

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  • @garethlethem your a dick

  • @DaviHavoc09 You're a mouthbreather. I'm surprised that you could stop dribbling on your keyboard for long enough to write that message.

  • @garethlethem

    AFI should have definately broke up after 2001. They had a very long run especially for a hardcore band! Now, they suck money dick!

  • @BBAntichrist this music is good,and in my opinion AFI is still one of the best bands around today,far from sucking dick. btw did you mean to put money or did you mean monkey dick,either way WTF!

  • @garethlethem well afi arnt like all punk /hardcore bands that suck and only put out 3 or less abums in the same time period ,at least they progressed and made more of themselfs and can be rememberd for it

  • @garethlethem Wtf? Davey never turned into a "little girl". That's insulting. So shut the fuck up.

  • @xPrayerForPlaguesx You're right. He turned into a little bitch. Go suck his dick faggot, and have an orgy with New Found Glory, Used, etc...

  • @flabbyballsack Wow, you are an immature little adolescent. you don't deserve to even be on this video, fuck off, & go troll somewhere worth trolling.

  • @Satochan123 well, thats not true for me, cause I started listening to AFI last year, and usually, whenever i find out of a band, i always listen to the old albums first, like the old school ones. WHICH ARE THE SHIT, compared to DU, or STS, and I also agree with you, I hate when people listen to a band's mainstream album first and not start off listing to the old stuff

  • @shadupp whys that? You usually will hear the mainstream stuff on the radio first wont you? God forbid me not listen to music for what it is. I examine lyrics from every song I hear, Eventually I go back and check out the bands older music if I like the lyrics and style they present in whatever i hear first..

  • @Satochan123 I very much agree on the fact that they didn't sell out, but on the other side, So what if someone hasnt listened to their old albums or so what if people like the bands older stuff, everyone has their own taste, and Im sure your wrong that they wouldnt still enjoy playing what they played for 10 years but what makes a true artist is the fact that they explore their talents and grow as a musician, vocalist ect. But I feel your opinion partially man.

  • @Satochan123 slayer has been more than 10years active and yet they make gud oldskewl trashmetal mahn, i think its depends on the band and the listeners hhh

  • @Satochan123 ok, but, they changed SO radically, do you still really think that they didn't sell out? come on..

  • @equiz I'd say they were more forced into it than sold out. They play mostly old stuff live i hear.

  • @Satochan123 NOFX has been doing it for, what, like 25 years. they are still the greatest punk band.

  • @Satochan123 agreed 100%

  • @Satochan123 it's one thing to change your style, it's another to go from full on Punk rock to shitty ass pop bullshit. I wouldn't go as far as to say they sold out, but they certainly aren't the same angry fuck the system punk band I used to love.

  • urhh im a teenage girl and i listen to anything from AFI to Pantera lol xD and this is amazing...im not going to lie i prefer older afi but they changed because to be honest you cant expect men is there 30s to still wanna make punk music!? change happens...Im sorry.

  • you heard of Rancid? Social DIstortion? 7 Seconds? Those guys are in their 40s, and still playing punk rock.

  • living your life is not for me

  • omg this was on my friend's cd and she didn't know the fucking name of it cuz it was a miz cd :O so i came and looked it up cuz i listened to it and knew it was by afi

  • wow, didnt know girls had good taste in music. how sad.

  • Seriously? Wow lol.

  • well specifically young teenage girls.

  • i would like the old aAFI come back again

  • we can always wish, but yea, never gonna happen

  • Same here!

  • great song

    AFI forever

  • kick ass song

  • love this song with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • the old afi is the best!!!!!i love the drumsss they are quickly!!!!i love the guitar !!!!excellent sound!!!!!!!ai love very proud of ya!!!!

  • the old afi is the best!!!!!i love the drumsss they are quickly!!!!i love the guitar !!!!excellent sound!!!!!!!ai love very proud of ya!!!!

  • thier old stuff and new stuff is so different i don't think i would have ever got into thier new stuff, it's pretty weak in my opinion

  • I can't be apart of your modern world! I don't grasp your values! FUCK YEAH!

  • their old stuff is really good, but I still love Sing the Sorrow, and Decemberunderground!

    this song is so true about alot of people, how they want you to be just like them, fuck that

  • i love this song. i do respect the band going into a more mature type of music BUT i hate when people call them selves fans but cant listen to this kick ass music.

  • new afi sucks dick old afi rocks

  • If u liked them u wouldn't hate any music from them!!!

  • clariss is right, a true fan would like everything they do, not just certain albums....I prefer old to new, but I still love it all because its AFI..regardless of what it is

  • Old comment I know but,

    You dont know how wrong you are. A fan can dislike something from their fav. band. In all honesty a crappy fan is someone that likes everything JUST because its AFI and not actually having your opinion on it.

  • well you may be right but I guess everyone is entitled to there opinion

  • Haha, I guess. But, going against what you think or generally like, JUST to like something because its AFI is kind of silly.

  • its all in reasoning, if you like it all beacuase you honestly enjoy all their work, its fine, but if you claim to like it just because you think it makes you a better fan, then you're a poser. AFI!!

  • Exactly...

  • Haha... I got kinda confused reading this...

    You know, it's probably a good thing that a whole lot of people are pissed about AFI switching to the "emo" side. (As I've heard said.) Really, it means more fans KNOW that there was an AFI before decemberunderground and they can look up all that old stuff, too.

  • While true, their fans should atleast understand they have been changing for years. DU is just something THEY didnt like, so they got all pissy and jumped on the "Lets calle AFI emo" bandwagon. Not saying the older fans HAVE to like the newer music, but atleast show some respect that the band is doing what they want and wont stay and will forever change.

  • I can still say that I don't like it, and prefer that they changed for the better, in my opinion.

  • I like most of their newer music. I prefer Sing The Sorrow over most of their older music. STS is one of my favorites along with Black Sails..but the others have their greats. :D

  • I love all of their music... A to the W to the E SOME

  • Good!! ur a true fan!

  • ...God, I love these guys... no matter what year it was, I always love their music...

  • I wish they were still like this, old AFI is just plain genius

  • AFI rocks and it saddens me to know that so many people have never their older music like this song, which in my opinion is the best track on this cd though they are all amazing.

  • dude i love your vidz all this old ass shit

    man i havent got to here any of it in like a bad ass long time

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