They think they did very good right now just because they hot more money. Bit at first they were butthurt about even giving them 50 percent. Nice change of tone. :P
Wow, very good episode. Great negotiation skill, and I think they got a great deal. With each every dollar provides them more liquidity - allowing them to further leverage and expand their business. Good stuff.
I like that some of you think you're smarter than this guys and have 0 experience in the business. ~ says the girl who still in university shhh i know
@Chanelleml well for one degree's dont mean jackshit in business, Does your business teacher make xx mill a year? probably not, so what value can they teach you other then what some random joe blow wrote in a book? Nothing, they teach you how to work for the man and run a small time business, you only learn by doing it not just reading and hearing some guy who makes 60k a year chirp about it
@affiliatexx .. I dont think u understood what I meant by my comment. For one, Im not in business, Im in actuary and that has nothing to do with what I said. Im just sayin that a lot of poeple here r saying that those guys r dumb when they obviously have a very successful business and knows there shit. Im not saying that "I" know better hell no, I just know enough to laugh at poeple thinking they know better. ~ Hopes that makes sense. Im french btw hard to expres my thought sometime
if they wanted 150k for 10%, then 600k should be for 40%. But somebody has to benefit from this. Guys benefit from it with more cash, entrepreneurs benefit from this with higher percentage.
just so that everyone who says "did pretty good" was a mistake on their part knows... if you check recent dictionaries they have changed the grammatical rule to include the word good because the use of language has changed... as it always does over time.
the guy on the right seemed cool i wish he got to talk more... the guy on the left doing all the talking seemed like a total douchebag asshole ...i wouldn't want to be in business with him or even have a conversation with him
"We went in asking for $150,000, we came out with $100,000-I'd say we did pretty good." Yea, but you went in willing to give out 10% of your business and ended up having to be equal partners with these two sharks by giving out half of your company. These guys needed $150,000 for 10%, I wouldn't have budged from that number.
I think the people running their own business coming into Shark Tank T.V. episode should just stick to their own game plan. It's pretty much about money (obviously and finance structure) the issue seems to be control %. A broken record to me. They say I'm out 9 times out of ten. One episode they were going to fire the man after he accepted the offer, that is if he chose to do so. 100% control. He walked away.
@aaa567ify i wouldve fired the guy also. he had an awesome product (edible cleaning solution) but didnt know how to market or make sound biz deals. He shouldve sold his company and went to the beach while those annual checks came in....like they told him. I wouldve done it. Im an inventor of things but i have no business sense at all.
@ministertamar Thanks for the reply. I haven't seen the show in awhile until the other day. As much as I have seen it, the man on the right seems to be the best salesman, or making more friendly connections with the business inventors coming into the episodes. The episode you are replying to, that guy was a horrible communicator. He was like a deer stuck starring into headlights with each question. He will continue to make mistakes or get lucky.
They ACTUALLY think that business is worth 1.2 MILLION$?!?! Yikes. They charge 5K per college. They would actually NEED to AT LEAST have 240 colleges sign up.
@stealthwolf1 600K in exchange for 50% equity is nothing different from their initial offer. They would not need that much overhead for the online business.
Man... i would cut my left ball for 600K... <----- Careful what you wish for... Huh? KICK IN THE NUTS *By you girl friend telling you to wash the F*&%en Dishes*
- Cutting your left ball? $600,000
-Black Guy: "You people are to smart for me...its complicated.. im out" PRICELESS
@evilsandwich2 i highly doubt that's what they're calculating, lol. i think he had some formula to figure out that for $300K, he could offer 25% stake.
@evilsandwich2 cause that's not the way to calculate it. he check what 300000 was worth when robert (i think thats his name) only wanted 50% but it had nothing to do with the cash he offered. the fact that it was half is just a coincidence (that makes him look dumb i know ahah)
@Gazooo29 are you seriously a dumbass? they know this market and their FUTURE return will far exceed the 600K they are getting now and that's why they don't want to give away such a huge portion of their business.
they know their company isnt worth 600K now you idiot. i cant believe i had to rage and explain that to you
@wirednotice Fuck off asshole,you said it yourself FUTURE 10-15 years, this business could go bankrupt in 1 year but they had the chance at 600k cash and said no!!!. There's greedy and stupid by my guess your with the stupid crowd as you think the deal was cheap.
unless your Donald trump, don't bother thinking your an expert at business
@Gazooo29 How are they being greedy when they would rather take LESS cash for LESS equity? Did you not hear Brian say, "You would not entertain a lower number for the exact same evaluation?" They realize that their company will grow bigger in the future. Kevin and Robert knew that their business plan has a very good potential to be a huge success. And by the way, I am Donald Trump compared to your uneducated dumbass.
With some entrepreneurs should do is offer at a max 49% with an OPTION to buy the 2% controlling interest at either a future date or upon certain financial sales goals being met.
i wonder if this ended up being successful... It would be a real big shame if they didn't make it far... But you have to remember they get two really big business guys to make this a huge business and those 2 guys are extremely well educated
@kevn101 Well not sure if the Shark's made the deal during due diligence, but if you go to their website, they now have 60 schools which is double what they had on the show and a more streamlined compliance management team -- not to mention a patent on the mobile app for compliance, which eliminates much of the potential competition -- im sure also besides the shark's they have been able to get funding from venture capitalists by now as well.
hahahaha this guys got balls to battle with two of the best dragons. yes i said dragons because they are on the dragons den which is 1000x better than sharks tank.
Yes it's hard to sell 1/2 your company, but ffs you have an investment guru and a technology titan (Kevin and Robert respectively) in this deal. This will go very far
@Hkhan23 Dumbass, these deals have to go through extensive due diligence. And it never happened, just like all the other supposed funded deals. Check their website or the website of any other company that was on this show. None of these Sharks are ever listed on the board or management team.
@StickyickyX if you have the time to go and check out to see if they are listed on the websites then you are the fucking dumbass with too much time on your hands.. dumbass
I had this same damn idea 5 years ago. This is bullshit. These guys are con artists, this idea isn't that good anyways because pro teams have their own scouts that are better than some myspace for hi school fag athletes.
They (at least he) INSIST on a 1.5 million self-evaluation, that's so brave! On the other hand, refusing an offer for 50% that evaluates the business at 1.2 million dollars would be retarded.
@ihpb09 There are both British and Canadian versions of Dragon's Den. Then US changed and called it Shark Tank. Actually, this show was originally started out from Japan.
@ihpb09 Yes there is. It's produced by CBC, and its called dragons den, and features Kevin O'Leary, Robert Herjavec, Arlene Dickenson, Brett Wilson, and Kim Treliving. Go google it.
he kind of looks like pee herman
popper504 27 minutes ago
They think they did very good right now just because they hot more money. Bit at first they were butthurt about even giving them 50 percent. Nice change of tone. :P
demonhybrid13 6 days ago
Wow, very good episode. Great negotiation skill, and I think they got a great deal. With each every dollar provides them more liquidity - allowing them to further leverage and expand their business. Good stuff.
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to people who question whether or this was a good deal or not, you must understand the fact that $ and % relationship is not linear.
in simpler terms, doubling the amount of money doesn't mean percent double as well. it varies by the situation.
initially the sharks tried to eat the business at .8m (400k/50% offer)
however they successfully turned it up to 1.2m (600/50) and even negotiated for the original 1.5m (750/50). I say they did "good" indeed.
threeset3 3 weeks ago
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threeset3 3 weeks ago
2 of these guys are canadians
Metalshop242 3 weeks ago
I like that some of you think you're smarter than this guys and have 0 experience in the business. ~ says the girl who still in university shhh i know
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@Chanelleml well for one degree's dont mean jackshit in business, Does your business teacher make xx mill a year? probably not, so what value can they teach you other then what some random joe blow wrote in a book? Nothing, they teach you how to work for the man and run a small time business, you only learn by doing it not just reading and hearing some guy who makes 60k a year chirp about it
affiliatexx 2 weeks ago
@affiliatexx .. I dont think u understood what I meant by my comment. For one, Im not in business, Im in actuary and that has nothing to do with what I said. Im just sayin that a lot of poeple here r saying that those guys r dumb when they obviously have a very successful business and knows there shit. Im not saying that "I" know better hell no, I just know enough to laugh at poeple thinking they know better. ~ Hopes that makes sense. Im french btw hard to expres my thought sometime
Chanelleml 2 weeks ago
The guy on the right is Superman.
Darth5Steel 4 weeks ago
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and the guy on the left is Batman
akkifans 6 days ago
@akkifans Damn right.
Darth5Steel 5 days ago
"WE" did pretty good. Credit to Brian. Awesome brains and experience in business + negotiating.
ChaoHX 1 month ago
if they wanted 150k for 10%, then 600k should be for 40%. But somebody has to benefit from this. Guys benefit from it with more cash, entrepreneurs benefit from this with higher percentage.
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charliefasurf1000 1 month ago
You came in looking for 150k @ 10% and walked out with 600k @ 50%. I think you did very bad, very very bad!
sehoujay 1 month ago
300k for 25%? lol or 750k for 50? wouldnt it be 600k for 50%?
96JUSTIN 3 months ago
@96JUSTIN Anyone who understands business knows that an even incremental increase in % wont be an even incremental increase in $.
ManDime91 3 months ago
@96JUSTIN Lol! They obviously wanted the sharks to pay more to have more power within the company, and that power comes with at a steeper price ;-)
Sunkan86 3 months ago
just so that everyone who says "did pretty good" was a mistake on their part knows... if you check recent dictionaries they have changed the grammatical rule to include the word good because the use of language has changed... as it always does over time.
raist173 5 months ago
They are smart! That's exactly what I would have said! They aren't stupid to give up management by relinquishing 50%
Sucker4Jessica 5 months ago
Proffessional hustlers
guanzzou 5 months ago
Those guys were so scary especially the one with the glasses. IQ must be 150 or something liek that.
poutintsev 5 months ago
WTF did they just buy for $600k?! I honestly don't see a tangible product here...
ekscholl 6 months ago
$600,000 should buy them some grammer lessons. It's pretty well, not good.
upinflamezzz 7 months ago
@upinflamezzz And perhaps it'd be enough to buy you some spelling lessons. It's spelled "grammar."
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lol at 2:55 "I would say we did very good"
rasbeaRRy 8 months ago
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rasbeaRRy 8 months ago
Rofl, 3 degrees between the two of them, yet they " did pretty 'good' " xD
WafflesHouse813 8 months ago 8
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Wafflespower!
Wafflesaurus 1 month ago
the guy on the right seemed cool i wish he got to talk more... the guy on the left doing all the talking seemed like a total douchebag asshole ...i wouldn't want to be in business with him or even have a conversation with him
mchero88c 8 months ago
One of the best negotiations on the show.
mplays 8 months ago 2
"We went in asking for $150,000, we came out with $100,000-I'd say we did pretty good." Yea, but you went in willing to give out 10% of your business and ended up having to be equal partners with these two sharks by giving out half of your company. These guys needed $150,000 for 10%, I wouldn't have budged from that number.
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yeah I loved it!
kodiakvids 9 months ago
never sell my 50%. scripted
ef4doorvtec 9 months ago
never sell my 50%
ef4doorvtec 9 months ago
they never ask what the money is for. watch the british dragons den for how to invest.
these sharks are just bad.
Roguelfy 9 months ago
brian.. i made a business from ZERO to 50 to 100 million in 5 years.. BRIAN: oh shit.. DONE!
huyiy 9 months ago 3
The fake tan on the guy with the glasses in unbearable.
BigNacho 9 months ago
I think the people running their own business coming into Shark Tank T.V. episode should just stick to their own game plan. It's pretty much about money (obviously and finance structure) the issue seems to be control %. A broken record to me. They say I'm out 9 times out of ten. One episode they were going to fire the man after he accepted the offer, that is if he chose to do so. 100% control. He walked away.
aaa567ify 10 months ago
@aaa567ify i wouldve fired the guy also. he had an awesome product (edible cleaning solution) but didnt know how to market or make sound biz deals. He shouldve sold his company and went to the beach while those annual checks came in....like they told him. I wouldve done it. Im an inventor of things but i have no business sense at all.
ministertamar 8 months ago
@ministertamar Thanks for the reply. I haven't seen the show in awhile until the other day. As much as I have seen it, the man on the right seems to be the best salesman, or making more friendly connections with the business inventors coming into the episodes. The episode you are replying to, that guy was a horrible communicator. He was like a deer stuck starring into headlights with each question. He will continue to make mistakes or get lucky.
aaa567ify 8 months ago
They ACTUALLY think that business is worth 1.2 MILLION$?!?! Yikes. They charge 5K per college. They would actually NEED to AT LEAST have 240 colleges sign up.
blognewb 10 months ago
@blognewb
and theres over 10 thousand colleges on the east coast alone
Zakerneif 9 months ago
did this company do well after the show?
Cannibalzz 10 months ago
This is the most educated youtube crowd ive ever seen
stealthwolf1 10 months ago 3
@stealthwolf1 600K in exchange for 50% equity is nothing different from their initial offer. They would not need that much overhead for the online business.
blognewb 10 months ago
@blognewb Interesting... Why did you post that as a reply to my comment?
stealthwolf1 10 months ago
@stealthwolf1 did i? excuse me
blognewb 10 months ago
Man... i would cut my left ball for 600K... <----- Careful what you wish for... Huh? KICK IN THE NUTS *By you girl friend telling you to wash the F*&%en Dishes*
- Cutting your left ball? $600,000
-Black Guy: "You people are to smart for me...its complicated.. im out" PRICELESS
EvolutionXEngine 10 months ago
i'm sorry, but why did these geniuses need a calculator to figure out that 50% divided in half, is 25% ?
evilsandwich2 10 months ago 25
@evilsandwich2 i highly doubt that's what they're calculating, lol. i think he had some formula to figure out that for $300K, he could offer 25% stake.
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@evilsandwich2 I reckon they did it just to take a piss out of it
JinNOSify 1 month ago
@evilsandwich2 cause that's not the way to calculate it. he check what 300000 was worth when robert (i think thats his name) only wanted 50% but it had nothing to do with the cash he offered. the fact that it was half is just a coincidence (that makes him look dumb i know ahah)
Chanelleml 3 weeks ago in playlist Autres vidéos de liae
@evilsandwich2 hes overwhelmed
moh12345bso67 1 week ago
These guys were just greedy you have a offer for $600k and you still act like you company is worth more then $600k wow
Gazooo29 11 months ago
@Gazooo29 are you seriously a dumbass? they know this market and their FUTURE return will far exceed the 600K they are getting now and that's why they don't want to give away such a huge portion of their business.
they know their company isnt worth 600K now you idiot. i cant believe i had to rage and explain that to you
wirednotice 10 months ago
@wirednotice Fuck off asshole,you said it yourself FUTURE 10-15 years, this business could go bankrupt in 1 year but they had the chance at 600k cash and said no!!!. There's greedy and stupid by my guess your with the stupid crowd as you think the deal was cheap.
unless your Donald trump, don't bother thinking your an expert at business
Gazooo29 10 months ago
@Gazooo29 How are they being greedy when they would rather take LESS cash for LESS equity? Did you not hear Brian say, "You would not entertain a lower number for the exact same evaluation?" They realize that their company will grow bigger in the future. Kevin and Robert knew that their business plan has a very good potential to be a huge success. And by the way, I am Donald Trump compared to your uneducated dumbass.
wirednotice 10 months ago
im sure that the guy with the red tie if he were alone he had accepted the first offer he was impressed with all that money!
michelo91 11 months ago
They might have their fancy PHD's, but apparently "We did good.....I think we did really good" passes for good engrish.
s2t0r09 11 months ago
@s2t0r09 I'm an idiot and I thought the very same thing when I heard that haha
Pheen27 11 months ago
With some entrepreneurs should do is offer at a max 49% with an OPTION to buy the 2% controlling interest at either a future date or upon certain financial sales goals being met.
xpandergt 11 months ago
man they are good negotiators they got 600 000 out of them good job.
littleripper333 11 months ago
For once in my life i feel sorry for the dragons. 600k down the drain. C'mon kevin, you're from bloody Ivey.
twadsy 1 year ago
I still like the British and Canadian versions for Dragon's Den.
And the original Japanese version of this show.
vwslaw 1 year ago
look robert let out his power when he did the stare talk at 1:40 - 1:51 and also at 2:10 ...and all of sudden DONE!
shayorshayorshayor 1 year ago
i wonder if this ended up being successful... It would be a real big shame if they didn't make it far... But you have to remember they get two really big business guys to make this a huge business and those 2 guys are extremely well educated
Anyone know what happened after the deal????
kevn101 1 year ago
@kevn101 its failed
daveygravey123456 1 year ago
@daveygravey123456 Yeah i didn't think it was going to get far.. it just didn't seem like a multimillion dollar business
kevn101 1 year ago
@daveygravey123456 really? they now have 60 schools, some big one's too like Michigan State -- Im thinking this company is doing well --
aas8 1 year ago
@kevn101 Well not sure if the Shark's made the deal during due diligence, but if you go to their website, they now have 60 schools which is double what they had on the show and a more streamlined compliance management team -- not to mention a patent on the mobile app for compliance, which eliminates much of the potential competition -- im sure also besides the shark's they have been able to get funding from venture capitalists by now as well.
aas8 1 year ago
hahahaha this guys got balls to battle with two of the best dragons. yes i said dragons because they are on the dragons den which is 1000x better than sharks tank.
dboyd1089 1 year ago
Score one for the Canadian Dragons!
Yes it's hard to sell 1/2 your company, but ffs you have an investment guru and a technology titan (Kevin and Robert respectively) in this deal. This will go very far
GreenFenril 1 year ago
the dude with the red tie looks like got the superman clothes underneath, ha ha ha !!
antzinn79 1 year ago
@antzinn79 hahahaha u right
mowii702 11 months ago
I'm liking the fanfare/accomplishment theme song at 2:25 - very appropriate
Omerat1485 1 year ago
Don't even think about it, TAKE THE OFFER !!!!
InfernalHawkPSN 1 year ago
bravo
diochris31 1 year ago
yeah! robert and kevin...representing Canada :D
thatPUNKdude 1 year ago
@thatPUNKdude Yayyyy! :D
TheBlueRose2008 1 year ago
kevin is fucking halarioussss
Rikashk 1 year ago
watch episode 2 that not on youtube: megavideo com /?v=4MJVOGQ9
shirhh 1 year ago 3
I am sure they could have gotten to 750.
Bombur86 1 year ago
@Bombur86 I agree. I mean Robert was drooling for these guys. He immediately saw what a cash cow this could be.
TheHockeyCentral 1 year ago
damn... what is the music at the end
leviterande 1 year ago
Best show on Earth.
JackMacyntire 1 year ago
they will be whiping their ass with 50's soon
millsathn 1 year ago 4
great episode!!!
ibreakkidslegs 1 year ago
this show is tight
Weeble989 1 year ago
they are 600 thousand dollars richer and we are stuck here commenting about it
Hkhan23 1 year ago 102
@Hkhan23 Dumbass, these deals have to go through extensive due diligence. And it never happened, just like all the other supposed funded deals. Check their website or the website of any other company that was on this show. None of these Sharks are ever listed on the board or management team.
StickyickyX 1 year ago
@StickyickyX if you have the time to go and check out to see if they are listed on the websites then you are the fucking dumbass with too much time on your hands.. dumbass
Hkhan23 1 year ago
@Hkhan23 It takes a minute at the max. Obviously it takes you twenty times longer but you did ride the short yellow bus to school so I understand.
StickyickyX 1 year ago
@Hkhan23 [ ] they are $600,000 richer
[ ] you have a clue
applesauceman 1 year ago
Amazing.. With each new "increased" offer, the sharks were actually reducing the pre-money valuation of the company.
The guys realized that. But I guess, the shark's experience / acumen has a value of its own and the guys were smart enough to see it in the end.
abhinavc 1 year ago
@abhinavc
Four intelligent people running the company should definately make it a success.
TheROCKandOrROLL 1 year ago
Hey one of these guys is in my class - didn't know he was on Shark Tank until now! Good for him!! What a smart guy!
ccrazy100 2 years ago
I had this same damn idea 5 years ago. This is bullshit. These guys are con artists, this idea isn't that good anyways because pro teams have their own scouts that are better than some myspace for hi school fag athletes.
IuseAudi 2 years ago
@IuseAudi This idea is old and played out. Been tried since late 1990s via internet.
StickyickyX 1 year ago
amazing.
shquib 2 years ago
They (at least he) INSIST on a 1.5 million self-evaluation, that's so brave! On the other hand, refusing an offer for 50% that evaluates the business at 1.2 million dollars would be retarded.
LucasCAPS 2 years ago
Next Billionaires! NFL is big business, maybe we will see more talent on the football field.
KamikazeKoscki 2 years ago
this was a sick episode and the music helped XD
chillcycle 2 years ago 54
They are so entrepreneurs =) I love their attitudes Both team of people.
chadastanley 2 years ago
yea i wanna become like those two entrepreneurs.. you can tell they want it cuz they are putting so much effort into everything
50kT 2 years ago
Damn the two Canadians are aggressive
ir2mean 2 years ago 3
If you think that was aggressive, you should see how they do in on the Canadian version!
erikdraven1731 2 years ago 2
Oh I watch it every week :) I prefer it to shark tank
ir2mean 2 years ago
whats the canadian version i wanna see
50kT 2 years ago
look up Dragon's den CBC... there's a collection of clips on here.
erikdraven1731 2 years ago
I thought this was the Canadian version? is it dragons den?
ScarbzDynasty 2 years ago
yes
erikdraven1731 2 years ago
@ScarbzDynasty No, this is the American version called Shark Tank, and the Canadian version is called Dragons Den, and much more interesting.
GoldenSenshiGalaxia 1 year ago
@GoldenSenshiGalaxia there is no canadian version. dragon's den is british
ihpb09 1 year ago
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Come visit my channel then and meet the Canadian Dragons (no I am not spamming)
TheBlueRose2008 1 year ago
@ihpb09 There are both British and Canadian versions of Dragon's Den. Then US changed and called it Shark Tank. Actually, this show was originally started out from Japan.
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@ScarbzDynasty there is no canadian version. dragon's den is british
ihpb09 1 year ago
@erikdraven1731 there is no canadian version. dragon's den is british
ihpb09 1 year ago
@ihpb09 Then what have I been watching for the last five seasons.
erikdraven1731 1 year ago
@erikdraven1731
Hahahaha :D
TheBlueRose2008 1 year ago
@ihpb09 Yes there is. It's produced by CBC, and its called dragons den, and features Kevin O'Leary, Robert Herjavec, Arlene Dickenson, Brett Wilson, and Kim Treliving. Go google it.
GoldenSenshiGalaxia 1 year ago