Dennis Venema - Can an Evangelical Christian Accept Evolution? - Part 1

[josepharuldoss]

So you dont beleive the Creator so will I not beleive you created this video and presentation it just existed by evolution Is nt it?

[TEHTYMEKITTEH1]

ANYONE WHO DOESN'T QUESTION THE BIBLE IS A RETARD.

[josepharuldoss]

@TEHTYMEKITTEH1

Please test and see the truth you are not here without your parents

[TEHTYMEKITTEH1]

@josepharuldoss

WHAT? TRY TYPING A COHERENT SENTENCE

[GoodScienceForYou]

This ridiculous religion of Evodelusionism has gone on long enough. I intend to spend the rest of my life in court, getting this shit religion out of public schools. All religious garbage beliefs need to be removed from science.

[KrokrX]

GSFY – so now you say you 'intend to spend the rest of my life in court, getting this shit religion out of public schools', your idle boasts are so laughably absurd. You also said many months ago 'I am about to go to work at a job that will net over $500,000 per year.' and yet you're about to have your home repossessed. Jimmy, do you ever connect with reality?

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou: "I intend to spend the rest of my life in court..."

You may get your wish.

[KrokrX]

GSFY – you've really lost it Jimmy, the video you pointed to supports the standard common ancestry model that scientists agree upon, and not your silly humans mating with gorillas to produce chimps and then with the chimps to produce Neanderthals nonsense.

[GoodScienceForYou]

@KrokrX Open your mind up and remove the dumb ass belief. It clearly supports humans as the common ancestor of both humans and chimps and other primates and even Neanderthal. Realize that the methods for dating fossils that are replacement is completely flawed. Then wake up from your delusional beliefs. Why are you so stupid. Beliefs destroy all credibility and objectivity.

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou "It clearly supports humans as the common ancestor "

No, it shows that chimps and humans had a common ancestor. Pull your head out of your ass.

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou - your gorilla and human mating hypothesis is stupid.

[hackenbollox]

@GoodScienceForYou

Way to fail. Again.

The principle of falsification was proposed by Karl Popper, an agnostic born in 1902.

You might try looking at reality once in a while.

[GoodScienceForYou]

@hackenbollox Obviously, you have not read his crap. He was a communist which is a proven failure for humans. Communists normally want to rid the world of religion, so you your fears will be easy to control and you will conform.

Falsication is not a scientific premise. It is a religious one. Go read Popper and actually read his shit.

[hackenbollox]

@GoodScienceForYou

Actually, I have read Popper. First, what does his political stance have to do with the principle of falsifiability in science? This is the genetic fallacy writ large.

Further, how can falsification be a religious premise? If it were, we'd all have discarded the idea of stupid magic men years ago, since none of them are falsifiable.

Dude, I know I've said this to you before, but get a proper education.

[GoodScienceForYou]

You answer your own question but you still think that Evodelusionism is "science"? WTF is the matter with you. You cannot falsify a religion and Evodelusionism is a religion.  I don't know how much more delusional a person can be as to not see simple logical fallacies while you write them.

[hackenbollox]

@GoodScienceForYou

Ooh, ad hominem! What was that you were saying about logical fallacy?

As for you being in a position to teach anyone about science, I know better than that, because I have bothered to pay attention to reality. Further, the fact that you think that science 'proves' anything demonstrates your abject ignorance. Science works by disproof, not proof. Proof is only valid in pure mathematics.

[hackenbollox]

@GoodScienceForYou

Is it ever going to be the case that anything more intelligent than name-calling passes your lips? See, here's the thing. I've studied science, and I've seen your videos and your forum, and if you were to tell me that 2+2=4, I would seek independent corroboration, because I've not actually seen an instance of you being right.

Reality wins.

[coreygames]

@hackenbollox

agreed

[doctorh2005]

Reply to this video:

watch?v=yPFi8k5IMK0

God Bless,

DrH

[Angmarr]

/facepalm..

[damaxman]

@NephilimFree

It's actually sad, that you consider everyone that doesn't believe exactly as you do, to be wrong.

[NephilimFree]

There is such a thing as truth.

[damaxman]

@NephilimFree

Depending on ones definition of what truth is, right?

You seem to only seek out concepts that support your "truth," how are you supposed to make an accurate evaluation of all possibilities if you do not discard your preconceived bias?

Truth is, what truth means to you, seems to differ from what truth means to me.

[NephilimFree]

No. Truth is not dependant upon opinion.

[damaxman]

@NephilimFree

It would appear in your case it does.

[catarrhinegabriel]

Neph, He probably thinks the earth revolves around the sun too. Which do you think is worse?

[michalchik]

Yes because we all know that evolution says that the first humans were created as hermaphrodites. I find it sad that so many logical contradictions and lies can live in one head.

[Starbat88]

@NephilimFree

I find it encouraging that even an Evangelical Christian still has enough capacity for critical thought that they can still acknowledge REALITY!

[goal2004]

"I find it sad that a Christian can be so ignorant and deceived." (had to correct your spelling there)

Anyway, I find it sad that a grown man, such as yourself, can be so ignorant and deceived.

You keep clinging on to the same book without expanding your horizons and really putting time into researching anything. Not to mention you haven't fully read (cover to cover) your holy book, because otherwise you'd be too disgusted to support your religion to begin with.

[JT898]

The fact that we have an understanding of other processes; genetic drift, development, horizontal gene transfer etc, does not impact upon this. It just means the theory has been expanded and improved.

[GoodScienceForYou]

@JT898 You mean the fantasy of your belief and what you think you see is expanded and improved. You must be a brainwashed moron. It is impossible to get through the indoctrination and religious garbage of this crap pseudo science and get a degree in this shit, without being a weak minded fool. You need to look at all the evidence and look at what is actually shown in all the evidence. You are not capable of doing that. You force religious mystical mythological beliefs on science.

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou "You need to look at all the evidence and look at what is actually shown in all the evidence". Scientists have done that. The fact that you deny the evidence shows that it is you who is the weak-minded fool.

[GoodScienceForYou]

@AlanCFA You are an internet stalker. You need to stop following me around on Youtube. It is a sickness of mind that you have. You are the most scientifically illiterate person on Youtube who believes in Evolution. That means you have no reason to believe. You are the statement of this ignorance and are too stupid to even make comments on my words of wisdom. You are an Evotard. This crap is rotting your brain. You hatred of God is not a good mental condition. It is self hatred, really.

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou - I'll post any comments I want. You don't like it? GOOD! You keep bringing nothing but lies and misinformation here and I will point them out.

Also, you are incredibly stupid. I do NOT believe in God, so it would be IMPOSSIBLE for me to hate God. How dense are you that you cannot understand that?

You deny evolution for religious reasons. Your arguments creationist crap. You aren't a scientist. You can't answer my Calculus question, so you don't know math, either.

[GoodScienceForYou]

@AlanCFA You are a perverted person..an internet Nazi stalker. Every time I post about the truth and removing all religious garbage from science, you post about your religious hate. I know that you were a Catholic and that is enough to turn anyone from the truth. If you want to ask scientific questions then do it on the forum.

[KrokrX]

GSFY - what's the matter Jimmy? Won't people let you dump your ill-educated nonsense without responding? Aaaahhh, poor Jimmy! You've yet to present a single coherent argument against evolution, and either recycle creationist misinformation or let loose with your foul-mouthed rants and inane accusations. You really should get professional help for your inherited mental problems, and take the medications offered.

[GoodScienceForYou]

@KrokrX You are the compulsive stalker of me. I just go and post things and you search for my posts and stalk me on youtube. AND you have the audacity to call me mentally ill. I type coherent posts that follow my cause. To get you bastards to wake the up, and get free of this delusional garbage with no real evidence. You can see from my forum, I have refuted all the evidence so far, in clear and concise statements of fact. There are no defenders left because they can't deal with the truth.

[KrokrX]

GSFY - as for you claiming to have 'refuted all the evidence so far' on your forum, all you've done is edit/delete posts that make you look a fool, but even the few you've left still highlight your ignorance! Your forum is a feeble excuse for you to rant against evolution and scientists, and to bad mouth anyone who is reckless enough to post on your forum. I prefer to answer you here on YT where you can't edit/delete my responses.

[KrokrX]

GSFY - your same tired old accusations and insults may bully some who don't know you, but it won't work with those of us who've found out about you and have seen it all before. If you post your ill-educated nonsense on science supporting channels then I'll point out your lies. You're simply another religious clown who doesn't want to accept reality, and don't think we didn't notice your last 5 uploads were creationist propaganda videos.

[GoodScienceForYou]

@KrokrX Eikel! You are one of the Internet stalkers, forum Nazi's is the correct term. You can't stand to have your disgusting religion under the scrutiny of pure logic and reason.

Where is your absolute, irrefutable evidence for evolution that contains no religious belief in your fucking mystical processes and magical events that have never taken place? Give it a try.

[KrokrX]

GSFY – sorry if you don't like me pointing out your ill-educated nonsense and your interminable lies, but calling me names won't stop me doing it, and it's only your stupidity that stops you realising that after all this time! Let me once again refer you to Godwin's law.

[KrokrX]

GSFY – when are you going to give us some tangible evidence, rather than interminable assertions, for your laughable claim that humans mated with gorillas to produce chimps, and then mated with the chimps to produce Neanderthals, and all less than 4,000 years ago - over 500 years after the building of the pyramids!! Make a video about it and it'll be a shoe-in for the Golden Crocoduck award you so richly deserve!

[KrokrX]

GSFY – the usual ill-educated assertions, insults and hot air – when are you going to make that video?

[GoodScienceForYou]

@KrokrX You are disgusting. Your mother would be proud of you on here, with all of your hate towards anyone who disagrees with your disgusting Evotard religion. You have no understanding of genetics, nor any science. This is because your mind is filled with shit and disgusting beliefs based on NOTHING but this dumb idea that fish became human.

[KrokrX]

GSFY – I've told you many times, I don't hate you, you're not important enough to warrant that kind of emotional investment, and I'm too busy laughing at you.

[GoodScienceForYou]

@KrokrX You spend a lot of time on me, because you stalk me all over the net, like a compulsive fucking retard. Oh! I forgot you are a compulsive weak minded retard. That is clear by your posts. People like you are worthless to society. They become nothing, but a pile of wasting fecal matter. You are just another talking bag of shit with a huge ego, just like Dawkins, your lord and master.

[KrokrX]

GSFY – so even more of the usual simple-minded insults, I'm still laughing at you, but when are you going to make that video?

[KrokrX]

GSFY - post your ill-educated nonsense on science supporting channels and I'll point out your lies, and all your bullying and insults won't stop me. You're simply another religious clown who doesn't want to accept reality, and you should stick to creationist channels where you might find people ignorant enough about science, and gullible enough, to swallow your nonsense, but even there I doubt it!

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou "You spend a lot of time on me, because you stalk me all over the net, like a compulsive fucking retard"

I thought that he and I were your pawns, being manipulated into posting so that we would drive traffic to your forum. Is that no longer true?

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou You have no understanding of genetics, nor any science. This is because your mind is filled with nothing but your stupid religious beliefs.

Hey, you suggested that John attend a Jehovah;s Witness Bible study. That shows where your real "knowledge" comes from.

[GoodScienceForYou]

@KrokrX You are ignorant beyond all words, because beliefs destroy all reason and objectivity. There is no foundational evidence for evolution. It does not exist. You could not answer my obvious and reasonable question because you are brainwashed into how to think. You are incapable of rational thought. Now Where is your absolutely irrefutable evidence for evolution? It must be PHYSICAL, having no other plausibility. Most of all it must have no opinions from delusional assholes like you.

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou - ", because beliefs destroy all reason and objectivity. " Well, it certainly has destroyed your reason and objectivity, assuming that you ever had any.

The world knows that you don't know the meaning of the word "assumption". Of course, you also don't know the meaning of the word "salubrious". In fact, there are quite a few words whose meaning you do not know, but I digress.

[KrokrX]

GSFY – OK, this time the usual ill-educated assertions, foul-mouthed insults and hot air – when are you going to make that video?

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou "You have already been proven the scorn of humanity"

Why, because he easily punctures holes in your silly beliefs?

Hey Jimmy, is this more evidence to support your contention that you never get angry?

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou "...you search for my posts and stalk me on youtube"

You say that like it is a bad thing.

"...AND you have the audacity to call me mentally ill" Yes, well if you were a scientist you would understand that we follow the evidence.

Besides, KrokrX and I are yogis, we are helping you. The ways of the yogi are subtle. You will find the truth when you let go of your delusions and your house, which means that you are halfway there.

[GoodScienceForYou]

@AlanCFA Go back and listen carefully to the video and read the annotations. It is very educational. watch?v=m4ojmTc8ms8

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou - I have a better idea, let everybody watch the ORIGINAL video without the annotations on my mirror site. You added annotations later on when you were PROVEN WRONG!

Some of your comments:

1:10-1:15

Two of these chromosomes decided to merge into one chromosome

1:53 - 2:06 They have two there and one over here. So what they do in their drawings is they make the one nice and fat.

4:10 – 4:14

First of all, there is no such thing as a fused chromosome here, it’s just a guess.

[AlanCFA]

@GSFY and anyone else who is interested, here is a p.s. to my last post

Here is GSFY's original video before he added the annotations

watch?v=29e8brRBEVI

He only added them AFTER commenters on his channel gave him evidence of the fusion taking place. Of course, he then came up with the idea that gorillas and humans mated to produce the chimp. Here is a mentally ill fool who cannot admit that he is wrong and creates a preposterous idea to try and save face. What an idiot.

[GoodScienceForYou]

@AlanCFA It is considered to be a mental problem to be a pervert on youtube that stalks other people. Your OCD is obvious. Most people with OCD have had some tramatic experience as a child. That is why I asked you if a priest molested you or some person in authority who was religious? You obviously don't know shit about science.

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou - it is considered a mental problem to be a compulsive liar and to boost your ego by pretending that you have accomplishments that you know have eluded you. You do not know anything about evolution or any other branch of science

You claimed to know more math than me, but were unable to solve a simple diff eqn that is taught in the first week of a standard course on ODEs. Nor could you give a conceptual explanation of a calculus question, yet you lie and claim to be an expert

[AlanCFA]

@KrokrX - yeah, Yogi Bear was funny. Jim too, but in a different way.

Some of Jim's comments from his fused chrm #2 video:

1:10-1:15 "Two of these chromosomes decided to merge into one chromosome"

1:53 - 2:06 "They have two there and one over here. So what they do in their drawings is they make the one nice and fat."

4:10 – 4:14 "First of all, there is no such thing as a fused chromosome here, it’s just a guess"

Then he finds out that he's wrong and adds the annotations! What genius.

[KrokrX]

@AlanCFA - I'm continually torn between feeling sorry for Jimmy, with his inherited mental problems and unfortunate childhood, and laughing at him due to his laughably outrageous lies and ill-educated understanding of science. His rude and obnoxious manner make it easy to laugh at him, but pity's never far away - it can't have been easy for him being such a perpetual failure, and it's easy to see why his delusional world is so appealing to him.

[KrokrX]

@AlanCFA - it's funny, but whenever GSFY claims to be a yogi I can't help thinking of Yogi Bear, the bumbling cartoon character who seriously over-rated his own intelligence just like GSFY does. Whereas Yogi Bear had a sidekick called Boo Boo, in GSFY's case he makes his own 'boo-boos' every time he opens his mouth or makes a comment!

[KrokrX]

GSFY - like all bullies, you like dishing it out but you can't take it yourself. You insult people at the drop of a hat and yet when people point out your deficiencies you whine like a little girl.

[KrokrX]

GSFY - how about giving us some evidence for your laughable claim that humans mated with gorillas to produce chimps, and then mated with the chimps to produce Neanderthals, and all less than 4,000 years ago - over 500 years after the building of the pyramids!! Make a video about it and it'll be a shoe-in for the Golden Crocoduck award you so richly deserve!

[AlanCFA]

@KrokrX - maybe he mated with a gorilla 20 years ago. Too much Jack Daniels or some such.

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou - I do not have religious hate, I have hate for your lies. You are not a scientist, you are a delusional fool. You do not post the truth, you post religious crap and think that everyone is stupid enough to accept it as science.

You recently posted that it doesn't matter what they say about you as long as they keep talking about you. If that is true, then stop whining about my posts.

[GoodScienceForYou]

@AlanCFA So, what part about seeking to know the real truth about this is so bad?

What part of removing all forms of mythology from academia, except as a class on mythology. There are no magical causes in science. No creature has violated their foundational genetics. There is no evidence for this ever happening. ALL religious nonsense needs to go away from public schools. It is brainwashing. I have exhausted all the gurus of evolution on youtube and there is nothing new for a while.

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou "So, what part about seeking to know the real truth about this is so bad?"

You are not seeking the real truth or attempting to remove mythology from academia. You are posting drivel.

"No creature has violated their foundational genetics." Evolution does not say that any creature gives birth to a fundamentally different creature. If you studied it, you'd know that. But you haven't studied it, you've merely lied and said that you had

[GoodScienceForYou]

@AlanCFA I got every speck of data that is used to promote this idea of evolution and there still is no solid evidence that can't be explained by normal genetics, interbreeding, extinction. There is no PHYSICAL evidence for evolution that is not based on belief and can be refuted by other more realistic answers that actually follow the evidence. I asked the question that no one could answer about real final absolute evidence that we can test. There is none, so give it up.

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou: "I got every speck of data that is used to promote this idea of evolution...". No you haven't.

Your video about fused chromosome #2 claimed that there was no fusion. Then, when commenters showed you evidence for the fusion, you changed and claimed that it did happen and came up with the gorilla-human mating nonsense. You did NOT know the evidence behind fused chromosome #2 and that is a FACT. Yet you continue to lie and pretend that you have studied "all" of the evidence

[GoodScienceForYou]

@AlanCFA In the video I ask for the absolute evidence that it took place and maybe it took place on planet ZENON before the transmigration of the species. You have no clue and no one else does either. That is the point of the video that you are too stupid to understand.

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou - no, you claimed that it never took place, that the textbooks drew it with thicker lines, etc

YOU missed the point that the theory of evolution ACCURATELY PREDICTED the presence of a fused chromosome before it was discovered. THAT is what valid scientific processes do. You would not know because of your vast stupidity

You also had no idea who Popper was or how fossils were dated before you made those videos. You use your religious ignorance as a substitute for knowledge

[GoodScienceForYou]

@AlanCFA But if you listen to all the Evotards, there presentation shows only interbreeding of humans and animals to produce the Chimp. The chimp has DNA that is too close to humans and the ERVs are too close to human to be anything but a direct relative where these ERVs and DNA traits were passed down from humans. These ERV's can only be transmitted sexually and the odds of them being from some millions of year old ancestor is not possible.

[KrokrX]

GSFY - when are you going to make a video about your claim that humans mated with gorillas to produce chimps and then with the chimps to produce Neanderthals, and all less than 4,000 years ago - over 500 years after the bulilding of the pyramids! Come on Jimmy, you're bound to win the Golden Crocoduck with that!

[KrokrX]

GSFY - and if you're not going to make a video then when are you going to give us details of specific ERVs that support your claim rather than the accepted scientific one? When are you going to highlight specific DNA sequences that support your claim rather than the accepted scientific one? We're all waiting Jimmy, show us how you're the "teacher's teacher" that you claim!!

[GoodScienceForYou]

@KrokrX It is the same exact evidence shown in the human genome projects and the Chimps DNA map that has so far been used as evidence. Chromosome number 2 in humans shows that humans had 48 chromosomes at one time, because of the Temomeres and Centromere markings in the evidence. This proves that humans are the most likely common ancestor of chimps. Get it?

The same evidence used correctly without the religious belief in mystical creatures.

[GoodScienceForYou]

2 of 2 Base pair 114455823 to 114455838 Shows these telemeres and centromeres. Corresponds to chimp chrome centromere marker 13. I have these charts that I got from the genome project. This is the same evidence looked at and compared to all the other evidence. The Evotards, think this shows common mystical ancestor of pre apes or some such nonsense based on belief and not evidence.

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou "2 Base pair 114455823 to 114455838 Shows these telemeres and centromeres". When you made your fused chromosome video, you had never heard of telomeres or centromeres. You learned about them from knowledgeable people commenting on your video.

You are an illiterate fool. The evidence indicates common ancestry and your religious beliefs keep you from admitting it.

[GoodScienceForYou]

@AlanCFA The video is not about the evidence of telomeres or centromeres but the belief that this split from some "great primate" is when this took place. Show me when this happened? No one was there. What fits is that chimps are the offspring of humans before the fusion of number 2. That is actual evidence. The chimp is the evidence. The human is the evidence. They are far to closely related to have split that long ago. There would have been far more divergence from the 94.6% the same DNA.

[AlanCFA]

@GSFY "The video is not about the evidence of telomeres or centromeres but the belief that this split from some "great primate" is when this took place."

You are a liar. You clearly stated in the video that the fusion DID NOT happen.

Here is your comment: "First of all, there is no such thing as a fused chromosome here, it’s just a guess. A guess is not science" That occurs at 4:10 – 4:20 on the video.

Here is the original video: watch?v=29e8brRBEVI

Everybody => see how he lies!

[KrokrX]

GSFY – what, you're stark staring mad! How can fused chromosome 2 be evidence for your silly claim that humans mated with gorillas to produce chimps? No matter how much you fantasise about mating with a gorilla it won't produce a chimp, AlanCFA has already suggested you can try it and prove it for yourself! And let's not forget that you also claimed that humans mated with chimps to produce Neanderthals, perhaps you could try and replicate that as well? Let us know when you've been successful!!

[GoodScienceForYou]

@KrokrX Humans have the same genetic make up as chimps. They are directly related and cannot be related by some fantasy creature that has never been proven.

We do NOT have any evidence of any common ancestor in the physical world of reality. It only exists in the minds of Evotards by belief and only by belief. Religious slogans are not science. Absolute evidence is physical, irrefutable.

Don't be an Evotard! Wake up! Your life is much better when you stop forcing belief on evidence.

[KrokrX]

GSFY – no matter how many times you repeat your ill-educated nonsense it will still be ill-educated nonsense.

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou: "Humans have the same genetic make up as chimps. They are directly related..." Yep, via a common ancestor.

"...and cannot be related by some fantasy creature...". Why? Because your holy book says so?

GSFY: "We are honest Christians who believe in God and believe in what is taught".

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou - you were the laughing stock of the spa industry and now you are the laughing stock of YouTube. Do you consider this progress?

[GoodScienceForYou]

@AlanCFA What is self evident is that I only seek the truth in the matter and I teach people about it. That is why I have customers all over the world who own my hot tubs. The hot tub industry is full of crap spas being hyped and sold with direct lies. People are sick of being sold a pile of shit. Why are you not sick of this pile of shit called "the theory of evolution". Everything on evolution has been refuted by the evidence. There is no magical bullshit in biology only standard genetics.

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou "The hot tub industry is full of crap spas being hyped and sold with direct lies"

Yes, I read Dr. Erik Selberg's blog and saw what his experience was like with a crap spa being hyped and sold with direct lies.

I saw one spa forum after another where you spouted off ill-informed rants and puffed up your already over-inflated ego.

Yeah, you have lots of customers all over the world. GSFY the spa king who was a stellar financial success due to his high IQ and integrity.

[AlanCFA]

GSFY's video: "First of all, there is no such thing as a fused chromosome here, it’s just a guess. A guess is not science. The guy explains it this way: ‘well, what must’ve happened’, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, like he’s some kind of authority on fairy tales. ‘This chromosome came over here, the virus is in the same spot, but this one has a fused chromosome which never existed, it was always one chromosome there anyway, and humans always had 46 chromosomes but at one time we had 48…”

[AlanCFA]

@GSFY

You not only showed that you had no idea about the evidence for a fused chromosome, you lied and pretended that you did AND in the video you CONFUSED the evidence from ERVs with the fusion itself!

Did you know that ERVs have not been proposed as the causal agent in the fusion of the chromosomes? That's a rhetorical question - I already know you don't have the courage or honesty to answer it. You did NOT know. You are an ignorant fool who makes up crap that you call science.

[KrokrX]

@AlanCFA - perhaps it's time to remind people of some classic examples of GSFY's laughable 'science' -

-Diamond are no longer carbon, they are diamonds.

-Photosynthesis is a carbon digesting process.

-The cause of sickle cell anemia is unknown, dumb ass.

-Carbon is the only thing that makes us "carbon" based creatures

-There is no answer for the diversity of life. It just is.

-There are only two species of bacteria.

Got to give it to him, GSFY's a joke that never disappoints!

[KrokrX]

GSFY – that was funny, you couldn't teach your way out of a paper bag, and thus far you've displayed a complete lack of knowledge about science, so the probability of anyone learning something about science from you is ZERO. As I've told you before, no matter how many times you repeat your ill-educated nonsense it will still be ill-educated nonsense.

[foxlake02]

@GoodScienceForYou Now I see your point. I think your argument that evolutionism is just a pile of magical mystical bullshit that persuaded me the most. No one has ever used such precise scientific terminology before as you have. The chimps from people screwing gorillas thing was just the icing on the cake. How could I have been so wrong!

[KrokrX]

@foxlake02 – nicely put, but sarcasm is probably lost on Jimmy, he's not terribly bright.

[GoodScienceForYou]

@foxlake02 I strongly suggest that you start thinking for yourself, instead of falling for logical fallacies. Your mind is too important to waste on bull crap that has no basis in science. There is no such thing as tiny simple life forms that "evolved" in to elaborate and complex life forms. That is the final premise of this mystical nonsense. The DNA of Chimps is too similar to Humans to be anything other than a direct relative from interbreeding. Evodelusionism is not science.

[foxlake02]

@GoodScienceForYou Let's say you are right (you're not). You still have not come one step closer to a hypothesis about the origins of man or of gorillas for that matter. So how do you think that happened?

[AlanCFA]

@GoodScienceForYou: "You are an internet stalker. You need to stop following me around on Youtube" But Jim, you claimed that I was your pawn, that you were manipulating me so that my posts would get more people to your forum. If I follow you around, it is your doing - you said so yourself.

[KrokrX]

@AlanCFA – yes, poor old Jimmy the Joke has real difficulty keeping his abuse and insults consistent. One minute you're a 'stalker' but a moment later you're his 'pawn', one minute I'm a 'god hater' but a moment later I'm a 'god damned Islamic fascist' – Jimmy's just so funny. Don't know what happens inside what passes for his brain, but it must confuse the hell out of him! Wish he'd get some professional help and take the medications offered.

[ArthurBiele]

A Theory that keeps being revised to avoid falsification is a bad theory.

[JT898]

@ArthurBiele

Not at all, all theories require adjustments. None is ever perfectly laid out in the first place such that it explains absolutely everything. This goes for evolution, cells, gravity, atomic theory and so on. The point however is that while adjustments have been made, the primary tenets remain in tact. With regard to evolution, Darwin's core idea that organisms are related by common ancestry and have diversified via natural selection remains largely in tact and is well-supported.

[Angmarr]

Agree, a model that doesnt change is a dogmatic model which needs to be avoided. However, there have been released a number of papers and books stating troubles for Darwinian models than have before.