Bill Donohue just called David Silverman a "specialist in censorship." Isn't this the same Bill Donohue that was going on a warpath about a chocolate Jesus, and a youtube video with a 3 second bit of a crucifix covered in ants? Who's the real speciaist in censorship.
What a fucking asshole! If you feel excluded, just join our group and then you'll be included! I'd love to see Bill Donohue have to live in Saudi Arabia and see how he likes to be excluded.
I bet when Bill Donahue complains about "we come to this state of our society now where you can't say anything, it's a linguistic minefield, somebody might be offended." he's mad he can't say nigger in public as he does in private. And for the record Bill and FOX are the ones "being offended", kicking and screaming like bitches.
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
I hate seeing Christians on American TV being so stupidly immature.. People like Bill Donohue and Bill O'Reilly cannot have a civilized, mature debate when it comes down to religion. When anchors CHOOSE sides, it gets me pissed, they're s'posed to be neutral.
As a swede, and "non-believer", I LOVE Christmas.
I'm a swede, and most people in sweden are "non-believers", but most people believe in SOMETHING, we just don't specify and define it, because we simply don't feel like we have to.
bill donahue is a cancer to humanity....I hope he is in vatican city when it blows up. That's right...I am looking quite forward to that day. evil child fucking pigs.
Any atheist that is threatened by the Christmas tree should do some research on it and it's Pagan origins. It's the Christians who should be threatened by it but instead they are just kidding themselves.
In sweden, we have what.. 55% non-religious people? Something like that. We celebrate christmas. Only its not called "christ"-mas, since we have our own word for it (more like the yule), "Jul" or "Juletid" (yuletime). I don't think anyone is offended either way. Christians go to church, muslims do whatever they do, Jehovas witnesses don't go knocking doors, and us who don't belive... Well we have a nice time, with good food & friends, celebrating a nice holliday.
@TheJo4an Sweden used to worship Norse mythology until Christianity took over. You celebrate Christmas because your family is traditionally Christian, as your nation was. While atheists might celebrate xmas as a family tradition, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc don't celebrate it. And on top of that it's a federal holiday.
@lalaurentide Err.. No. Well slightly, but no. Christmas has been celebrated in many ways. Before christianity it was winter solstice. We celebrate christmas because its a tradition, not because we are traditionally christian. My family is "atheistish" for about 3-4 generations.
@iRobii He's talking about the muslims and jews in this country who really feel over powered by all the christian festivities. Most athiests dont give a shit
im an atheist and i not only celebrate christmas but i go out and get a pine tre every year , its a cute tree it smells awesome and really christmas to me is about food, loved ones and PRESENTS not about religion at all to me.
Aside from Bill Donohue's ridiculousness. I'm a fervent atheist and the way we celebrate Christmas, like most in the west, is as part of a secular, family celebration, from the legacy of the Pagan Yule tide festivities. A Christmas tree is certainly not a Christian symbol; it's been adopted by western culture.
Bill got it right...suck it up!!! holy crap its just a fucking tree, its festive, its fun! just treat it as a decoration and dont get offended by everything goddam thing....btw im an athiest
How reasonable it is to feel threatened by a tree? Sounds pretty stupidly superstitious. OMG that tree is threatening me. I think it might have a gun. Oh no, somebody save me from the tree.
@dmorono wow you missed the point...its the fact that someone must deal with another's religion in a place they shouldnt have to...someone wants to be a jew, muslim, christian, etc: go ahead...go nuts...but do it at your house, on your time...work is not a place for your religion...stop being a child
No, I didn't miss the point. But if the big scary trees frighten you, you can just crawl in a corner and shiver and tremble like a 5 year old at shadows in the night when the floors creak and the wind howls. I stopped being a child a very long time ago. Perhaps you should try it.
@keewee1091 And I do agree, such things have no place in the work place, but if they do show up, I do not really care. I just look at it as silly superstition, shake my head, and move on. There is NO THREAT to anyone.
I'm an atheist and I think to be offended by christmas is ridiculous - one might as well be offended by santa or the easter bunny - it's little more than a traditional festive celebration (of pagan origin) and is to be expected in traditionally christian countries, just as different celebrations prevail in different cultures. Wanting to ban in it seems to me a bit puritanical and ill spirited.
I'm an atheists. Its going to far to bitch about christmas trees and the like. I owned a business and always put up a christmas tree and a menorah. Keep prayer out of school, but go nuts with trees, candles and whatever. The jokes on chrisitans anyway. Christmas is a pagan holiday. The dec 25th birthday, crucifiction, resurrection, etc., all done many times, long before christ.
I don't think the fat guy said one true fact the entire time. 80% of Americans are, in fact, not Christmas. America was not founded as a Christian nation, in fact, the only mention of religion in our founding documents serves to separate church and state. And Hitler was not Atheist, he was in fact Roman Catholic. He should get his facts straight before coming back on and making a fool out of himself again. Although, what else is Fox news for?
AND, what about all the unfair tax advantages that churches get just for sayin that they are a religion, advantages that other charities do not automatically get. Preachers and the clergy get a tax - free housing allowance and are allowed to write off their mortgage interest at the same time. So, they do not pay the interest on their mortgage and are allowed to write it off at the same time. This is government endorsement of religion and a endorsement that is forced on the rest of us.
This is ridiculous. As an atheist, I like christmas and trees and the season. We should be more concerned with the real problem, religion's influence in our government. John Shimkus (R-IL), in an official hearing to address concerns over rising sea levels because of global warming, quoted the book of genesis to refute the science of climate change. There are many other nutbags in our government. Also, I wonder if anyone ever informed Bill that gluttony is a "sin".
Oh noooo, a Christmas tree. Wel Boohoo. A christmas tree isn't Christian symbol. It's a pagan symbol. Go home and cry people who are offended. It's JUST A FUCKING TREE
@Tutterkop If they put a Muslim ornament or other religion other than Christian than people finally freak out and be outrage. You dont get the damn point.
@DynamicMotionsHD First of the Christmas tree isn't a Christian symbol. In Europe nobody I know puts a Christmas tree in their house because it's the christian thing to do. That's just plain stupid. And secondly A religious ornament in private is okay, in public is not. If they put the scene of the naitivity in the streets instead of the trees, I would have a problem with it. But this is only a tree, and it being decorated does not mean it's suddenly a Christian tree
Bill Donahue... What a big fucking baby with his big fucking mouth. Is he 70 or 7 years old? Hitler an atheist? Like Silverman said; read Mein Kampf. Or any other book for that matter, you fucking illiterate imbecile.
@jonlanghoff He's read a book! The Good Book, and it's a good book, because The Good Book told us so! Ask Tim Minchin about the The Good Book, he'll tell you all you need to know about it
10:07 Bill says USA was founded by Christans. WHAT? I live in Europe and even I know that the founders were secular and Thomas Jefferson was anti-cleric. They partly founded their own country in order to escape from the bigottism of the English church. This man is retarded and just bullshitting around. I feel sorry for Dave for having to put up with such ignorant fools.
Religion is a myth, and so is Jesus (no historical evidence). But so what? I don’t see why atheists can’t celebrate Christmas (Saturnalia – Winter Solstice, the birth of the sun).
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I celebrate it, and don’t get offended when someone tells me Merry Xmas!
@mhoeltken Thanks for the correction, but what I should have said in my haste for expression was that the gods and goddesses in religion are all myths, and today yes I agree with you that religion isn’t good for mankind. However, in the distant past before the advent of science, it was a necessary thing. No human civilization has developed without it.
@AgrippaTheMighty I think religin wasn't so much necessary, than inevitable. But not concerning the question what the world consists of and how it came to be, as any explanation would be as good as an other one if you left out science. No, religion would be about power, as it is perfect for one group to distinguish against an other group of people and justify wars or suppression about total unphilosophical topics as power, wealth, influence.
@mhoeltken I disagree. In the distant past, humans in civilizations needed religion to function and bring some type of unifying sanity & order to their uneducated, short, brutish, disease & labor filled lives. And yes, it was inevitable. But today, the more advance societies are the least religious ones. Agreed that religion is all those things that you described.
@AgrippaTheMighty I don't know... there are many species that have developed tremendous social structures both prior and parallel to human existence and development without religion at all. Since we both agree that religions have no essential truthful contents, we do not have to discuss some sort of extended creators will for animal societies to function. Perceiving the human as just an other mammal, early human life would be no argument for the necessity of religion.
@AgrippaTheMighty I do, however, recognize, that there is some evolutionary advantage to a function of the human brain, that leads humans to religion or religious views. Take the child being told by its parents, that walking into a lions' nest would be hazardous to it's life, for instance. It is crucial for the species to survive, that a child does not have to make every experience by its own. But usually, parents use that omniscient label in puberty.
@AgrippaTheMighty Then, I observe religion indeed more as a separating force, than a uniting one. There is nothing in religious views, that helps to distinguish humans from animals. Differences in religious views use to end in separation between human groups and societies. That's what holy wars are about. It may lead to a point, where a non-believer is spoken not to be human and legal to be killed, as it often does. A uniting force in religion, I do not see.
@mhoeltken “A uniting force in religion, I do not see.” Religion is basically a human fabricated belief using the imagination about the afterlife, which is later inculcated as real. Today, if we educate ourselves, we can see fact from fiction, and the religious view is a very poor substitute for reality as you have correctly pointed out. But in the distant past, societies like the Ancient Egyptians imperfectly united their people with their centralized belief
@mhoeltken system (granted much of it because of their geographical “island”) for 3000 years of almost uninterrupted peace. Later, Christian societies in Europe only manage to effectively unite local areas in the building of cathedrals and small countries. They were not nearly as successful as the ancient Egyptians because of the very damaging character of this Abrahamic religion going very much against human nature. But I agree. Today religion is B.S.
@AgrippaTheMighty What exactly do you mean with 3000 years of almost uninterrupted peace? And would that be peace in opposition to (a formal declarated) war, or peace in opposition to torture, suppression or murder?
@mhoeltken There is only evidence for some wars here and there but that’s it. The only mass murder that I have found was from a pharaoh from the first dynasty that apparently had hundreds killed upon the event of the king’s death, but beside that I can’t find evidence for widespread torture, suppression or murder. There is evidence for equal rights among the commoners that we now start to have in western society for both men & women.
@AgrippaTheMighty You mean besides the Crusades, the Sonderbund war, the Second Sar of Kappel, the Thirty Years' War, the French Wars Of Religion (with St. Bartholomew's Day massacre), the Eighty Years' War, the German Campaign and the second world war with it's holocaust? Just to name the prominent religious wars...
@AgrippaTheMighty Uh, I must apologise. I definitely have not enough background on ancient Egyptian societies to discuss religious influences. Mea culpa.
@mhoeltken No problem. But I must add to your list of Christian religious mess the Black Death killing one third of Europe (many millions). I gotta confirm the approximate number of cats exterminated, but when the first outbreaks showed up, shortly after, the pope declared the domestic felines from the Devil with an order of extermination, which as we know destroyed the animals that could have prevented the infection from proliferating since this illness largely spread through rats.
@AgrippaTheMighty I guess we can spend years just adding to that list. Or that of nearly every other religion for that matter. And they (the religions and their leaders) are still adding to that list themselves with new crimes and ongiong cruelty. Bits and pieces of good in the name of religion does not compensate for the illness and sinister outviews spoken from sacred thrones. Thus the importance of openminded thinking people willing to lead the struggle for a lifeworthy society.
@mhoeltken “Bits and pieces of good in the name of religion does not compensate for the illness and sinister outviews spoken from sacred thrones.” I will agree if we understand it within our present context. But as an atheist, I still don’t see anything wrong with Christmas celebration.
@AgrippaTheMighty Oh, that was meant in context of our discussion. As to the original Video, I do not reject tradition or celebrated family values, even if religion is demanding all that pagan traditions by itself. However, as I am german (witch explains my bad English) and we do not have the same problem with fundamental religious views as the Americans seem to have, I can only imagine the importance of someone speaking a little sense on national TV, for the bits of FOX reaching Europe
@AgrippaTheMighty may be disturbed, but alarming. Europe tends to adopt a lot of american ideas, even when there was a significant anti-american zeitgeist. Kinda frightens me.
@mhoeltken Point taken and understood about our conversation. Speaking from America, I wanna say that I’m an America citizen but I have dual citizenship with Europe. I’m originally from Spain though I grew up in both France and Spain. So, hello fellow European! With respect to Fox News, yeah generally speaking they’re the voice of Christian fundamentalist opinions. But in this one, Donohue does have a general point when it says that everyone celebrates Christmas in the US.
Wonder how bill would feel if he had to work in a place that put up a pasta tree for pastamas. Or had buddha statues decorating the office. And if he were to get offended or upset, wonder how he would feel when they called him "mentally ill" told to "get over it or convert"? Can't look at it from the other side of the coin.
i love how she diminishes canada and sfu by saying "this" sfu, as thought it isn't a real place where educated people get together to learn. Like her opinion means so much. Isn't she supposed to be a moderator. This is simply her intercepting david before his point is made and Donny boy venting is bigoted frustrations out on TV.
Lol wow, I would have slaped the shit out of her after she said "But they've got the tree, then they've got the menorah, and then they have nothing! So you are represented there".....wow
As a Atheist i have to side with Bill the dingdong, as much as i hate doing so. But anyone offended or feeling rejected from a damn pine tree with tinsel on it is a moron. I decorate a tree every year with all that Pagan crap and i dont care what religion or part of the world its from. Just a day to see family, eat and watch football. Plus its a paid holiday so leave it the hell alone lol.
I'm an atheist, but why do we have to hate Christmas trees? I don't buy that. The trees are pretty, the holiday is festive and you can take the secular festive part of Christmas completely separately from the boring religious part anyway. Like I said, I'm an atheist, but who wants the world to be so boring as to not have Christmas?
@pnq8787 I generally agree with you. As an atheist, I used to be leery about seeing Christmas trees, and Christmas decorations, and listening to blowhards rant about a "war on Christmas." But I've been an atheist long enough now that I don't care. I don't believe, so why should I give a hoot about some magic greenery? I understand Dave's point about religion not belonging in the workplace, but I think his point would be more salient if he were talking about tax-funded public space.
"then convert" and that is it, they want to covert everyone else to their religion and sooner or later, if they have their way then they will kill you if you don't convert.
I'm not Christian and I enjoy celebrating the non-religious parts of Christmas. So much of Christmas is separate from Christianity (it wasn't even originally a Christian holiday) that I have few issues celebrating it.
As for the tree issue, I would object to a nativity, but a Christmas tree? Nah. It's a freaking tree. No one is trying to convert you to Jesus. Get over it. There are more important issues to worry about.
What I hate about atheists is that they say that there is no God and that that is a fact. You guys can not prove that there is no God, and I don't want people saying that I can't prove that there is a God because I never said that I could. I won't whine about you guys, so leave others alone
@omnisomnia How in the fuck is he ruining holidays? He is simply stating in a WORKPLACE where people from other RELIGIONS work shouldn't feel excluded, he isn't saying don't put up a tree at your house or a public property. It's just mind boggling how some people misinterpret such simple statements.
Atheism is a fast growing religion or religious segment? lol, Does that mean that they non-worship together as a community of non-believers?
This debate is so stupid, I don't see the reason for feeling excluded if your work colleges enjoy the holiday and you don't...You can't just say we as work colleges have to have the same ideas, beliefs and do the exact same things or i'll feel excluded...how insecure and childish.
I am an atheist. But I am not on board with David's positions. While I agree that work and religion should be separated, I don't think not celebrating a festival is the solution. Every religious festival has a cultural perspective. I have a Indian hindu upbringing. And to me Christmas is a time when family comes together to celebrate happiness, and of course it is a time of spending from an economic perspective. Nothing less and nothing more. I don't feel excluded at all.
@TejasM14 Then celebrate at home or in a church where religion belongs. I'm in 100% agreement with David Silverman because work is about work. It always bothers me that my work shuts down for 2 weeks because supposedly everyone celebrates Christmas and during that time I'm NOT ALLOWED to work. Honestly, the founding fathers probably got more work done than any other Congress because they worked through Christmas just like other foreign countries.
@TejasM14 I don't mind a few work parties now and then, but the fact that I have to sit on my ass for 2 weeks and am forced not to work, and the fact that my entire department wastes time decorating doors in wrapping paper and throwing potlucks every other day, is absurd.
@jshowa7 I am sorry to hear that, sounds like your department isn't the most efficient one lol. But anyway getting back to the point, to me at least Christianity is a secular holiday. Heck it is so commercialized, it's all a marketing gimmick of you ask me. But I don't mind setting aside a few days to spend with family and friends as I think the rest of the year too hectic for that to actually happen. As long as you don't shove the religion in my face, I am ok with any festival.
@TejasM14 It's a lab wide 2 week shutdown, it has nothing to do with departments. And Christmas is an excuse to do nothing for the last two weeks of December (and sometimes into the beginning of January), which is a waste of time. They should outlaw it, just like it was during the U.S. Revolutionary War period.
@jshowa7 I guess we must agree to disagree. Many Americans, including the folks I know toil for most of the year. More holidays to me doesn't seem bad. As such the United states lags in comparison to Europe, (which is just as or more efficient than the US) in terms of the number of holidays. As I said, I see it as a great time to spend with family and friends and am not bothered by the religious connotations of it.
@TejasM14 Well, there is a time/work trade off. I'd be more for having less work hours, but work everyday. I don't need colossal voids of time where I have to spend all this time, doing nothing (i.e. Christmas, New Years, Thanksgiving). Plus, if kids in schools actually went to school all year round, we wouldn't be having our ass handed to us by other countries.
@TejasM14 Plus, the more time I spend away from work, the less I want to go back. Because I get so use to doing nothing and being lazy, it becomes my natural state. Plus, the company I work for offers vacation time, so why am I forced to not work for 2 weeks out of the year? I know that's specific to my own company, but I'm sure there are other companies with similar retardedness.
@jshowa7@jshowa7 Also, I am curious. And I'm playing devil's advocate here. Based on your opinion of holidays as being a waste of time, couldn't that assumption be extended to every weekend? What is the point of any holiday for that matter of fact?
ok, I'm an atheist, but its not like Christmas is REALLY a christian holiday... It *technically* is, but It's been secularized over the years. I mean, come on, what does a Christmas tree, presents, and a fat guy in a red suit have to do with Jesus? I would have a problem with a nativity scene, but a Christmas tree and some reindeer? That's not a religions celebration.
@red666111 Agreed. If someone hangs up lights and snowmen and shit in front of their house, no problem. I facepalm the second I see a damn nativity, though.
@red666111 agreed. I mentioned in a comment that I am an atheist of a hindu upbringing. I am not in the least excluded. To me it is the same as thanks giving. A time of bringing family together and celebrating happiness.
Have Christians just begun making shit up about everything? Like at first it was making up unfalsifiable characteristics about god to suit their arguments, and now its just brought up in regular conversation all of the time. "Oh I don't like atheism, well Hitler was an atheist." I'm not even going to disprove this its been done so many times, but you have to wonder. When will Christians will stop making shit up?
Luckily I'm living in a country where religious people are a minority. We're laughing their irrational nonsense everywhere they dare to show it public.
said before, not sure how much i like Silverman as a representative of atheism, but he's excellent on Fox. sticks to the point, won't be brought away from the workplace, where it is actually a problem.
I agree with neutrality of government towards religion but I don't think its correct to say that businesses are less productive because of religious displays and thereby need to ban any religious celebration. I think its a bogus argument. The ideal way would be to allow people to celebrate their personal religions including Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus etc. in workplaces, if they want to.
I'm impressed with Bill's uncharacteristic composure and articulation here. Normally you wouldn't be able to understand him past his frothing and spewing of stupidity and ignorance. Way to dial it back.
@Meggings I can't believe some misinterpreted people do not get this simple suggestion from Silverman, I'm just baffled by these two ignorant and rude people.
Bill Donohue just called David Silverman a "specialist in censorship." Isn't this the same Bill Donohue that was going on a warpath about a chocolate Jesus, and a youtube video with a 3 second bit of a crucifix covered in ants? Who's the real speciaist in censorship.
TheGreatRL 1 day ago
christian hypocrites talking about censorship? big mouth bill donahue.
halflifeproductionz 3 days ago
What a fucking asshole! If you feel excluded, just join our group and then you'll be included! I'd love to see Bill Donohue have to live in Saudi Arabia and see how he likes to be excluded.
auroraman56 4 days ago
I bet when Bill Donahue complains about "we come to this state of our society now where you can't say anything, it's a linguistic minefield, somebody might be offended." he's mad he can't say nigger in public as he does in private. And for the record Bill and FOX are the ones "being offended", kicking and screaming like bitches.
lalaurentide 1 week ago
as much as i despise bill donohue, who is david silverman to tell a business how they can decorate their offices?
thepickletrain 1 week ago
@freelunche4: Educate yourself next time.
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
-Hitler
Terman8er 1 week ago
Even Hitler wan not christian, his soldiers were!
freelunche4 1 week ago
I bet she would suck his cock if he was priest..
nukec 1 week ago
What Hitler wanted? Hitler was Christian you numnut!
Pontimusprim 1 week ago
I hate seeing Christians on American TV being so stupidly immature.. People like Bill Donohue and Bill O'Reilly cannot have a civilized, mature debate when it comes down to religion. When anchors CHOOSE sides, it gets me pissed, they're s'posed to be neutral.
As a swede, and "non-believer", I LOVE Christmas.
I'm a swede, and most people in sweden are "non-believers", but most people believe in SOMETHING, we just don't specify and define it, because we simply don't feel like we have to.
zeCookieThomas 1 week ago
bill donahue is a cancer to humanity....I hope he is in vatican city when it blows up. That's right...I am looking quite forward to that day. evil child fucking pigs.
milorosen 1 week ago
Any atheist that is threatened by the Christmas tree should do some research on it and it's Pagan origins. It's the Christians who should be threatened by it but instead they are just kidding themselves.
goodcallll 1 week ago
What a douche!
"Hitler = Atheist" I mean WTF!
Zwegtube 1 week ago
Bill: Don't like a Christmas tree? Convert! Hurrrr
TheMrh5006 2 weeks ago
I'm an atheist and I love Silverman but i kind of like Christmas time. Its just a good time of year.
jareyjareyjareyjared 2 weeks ago
Rock and roll..
JoeyPadilla30 2 weeks ago
In sweden, we have what.. 55% non-religious people? Something like that. We celebrate christmas. Only its not called "christ"-mas, since we have our own word for it (more like the yule), "Jul" or "Juletid" (yuletime). I don't think anyone is offended either way. Christians go to church, muslims do whatever they do, Jehovas witnesses don't go knocking doors, and us who don't belive... Well we have a nice time, with good food & friends, celebrating a nice holliday.
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@TheJo4an yeah i am from Sweden to
iRobii 2 weeks ago
@iRobii Congrats. :)
TheJo4an 2 weeks ago
@TheJo4an Sweden used to worship Norse mythology until Christianity took over. You celebrate Christmas because your family is traditionally Christian, as your nation was. While atheists might celebrate xmas as a family tradition, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc don't celebrate it. And on top of that it's a federal holiday.
lalaurentide 1 week ago
@lalaurentide Err.. No. Well slightly, but no. Christmas has been celebrated in many ways. Before christianity it was winter solstice. We celebrate christmas because its a tradition, not because we are traditionally christian. My family is "atheistish" for about 3-4 generations.
TheJo4an 6 days ago
I disagree with David. I am an athiest and I dont get offended by a tree
iRobii 2 weeks ago
@iRobii maybe you got used to it.
Funnysterste 2 weeks ago
@iRobii He's talking about the muslims and jews in this country who really feel over powered by all the christian festivities. Most athiests dont give a shit
TheJonnyEnglish 2 weeks ago
im an atheist and i not only celebrate christmas but i go out and get a pine tre every year , its a cute tree it smells awesome and really christmas to me is about food, loved ones and PRESENTS not about religion at all to me.
COG287PR 3 weeks ago
Im a muslim and im with Silverman... It is really divisive... And it decreases the productivity...
Timurv1234 3 weeks ago
Aside from Bill Donohue's ridiculousness. I'm a fervent atheist and the way we celebrate Christmas, like most in the west, is as part of a secular, family celebration, from the legacy of the Pagan Yule tide festivities. A Christmas tree is certainly not a Christian symbol; it's been adopted by western culture.
TheBafo666 3 weeks ago
Bill Donohue is such an ignorant twat.
TugsN 3 weeks ago
@TugsN I'd fuck him too!
mjn132 2 weeks ago
Bill got it right...suck it up!!! holy crap its just a fucking tree, its festive, its fun! just treat it as a decoration and dont get offended by everything goddam thing....btw im an athiest
thomasmargollesable1 3 weeks ago 2
How reasonable it is to feel threatened by a tree? Sounds pretty stupidly superstitious. OMG that tree is threatening me. I think it might have a gun. Oh no, somebody save me from the tree.
dmorono 1 month ago
@dmorono wow you missed the point...its the fact that someone must deal with another's religion in a place they shouldnt have to...someone wants to be a jew, muslim, christian, etc: go ahead...go nuts...but do it at your house, on your time...work is not a place for your religion...stop being a child
keewee1091 4 weeks ago
No, I didn't miss the point. But if the big scary trees frighten you, you can just crawl in a corner and shiver and tremble like a 5 year old at shadows in the night when the floors creak and the wind howls. I stopped being a child a very long time ago. Perhaps you should try it.
dmorono 3 weeks ago
@keewee1091 And I do agree, such things have no place in the work place, but if they do show up, I do not really care. I just look at it as silly superstition, shake my head, and move on. There is NO THREAT to anyone.
dmorono 3 weeks ago
This really is the age of the eternal victim. Every single person is a victim of something. Geezus Freaking Keereist.
dmorono 1 month ago
Ah, the Hitler argument. Gotta love when that comes out. It's my second favorite argument behind Pascal's wager.
thisisaguy 1 month ago
I'm an atheist and I think to be offended by christmas is ridiculous - one might as well be offended by santa or the easter bunny - it's little more than a traditional festive celebration (of pagan origin) and is to be expected in traditionally christian countries, just as different celebrations prevail in different cultures. Wanting to ban in it seems to me a bit puritanical and ill spirited.
marcmeup1 1 month ago
@marcmeup1 I'm offended Kermit the Frog. That squeaky little voice of his is really creepy. :-))
dmorono 3 weeks ago
I am an Atheist, however I certainly don't think its wrong to display a Christmas tree in a work space, that is in a Predominately Christian Country.
brettdude20 1 month ago
This old man and clueless blonde make theists look bad.
MrShagification 1 month ago
I'm an atheists. Its going to far to bitch about christmas trees and the like. I owned a business and always put up a christmas tree and a menorah. Keep prayer out of school, but go nuts with trees, candles and whatever. The jokes on chrisitans anyway. Christmas is a pagan holiday. The dec 25th birthday, crucifiction, resurrection, etc., all done many times, long before christ.
Johnf85 1 month ago
Donahue has so much confidence in everything he says, yet he's so misinformed.
cronin098 1 month ago
I don't think the fat guy said one true fact the entire time. 80% of Americans are, in fact, not Christmas. America was not founded as a Christian nation, in fact, the only mention of religion in our founding documents serves to separate church and state. And Hitler was not Atheist, he was in fact Roman Catholic. He should get his facts straight before coming back on and making a fool out of himself again. Although, what else is Fox news for?
macsreviews 1 month ago
I'm an Atheist but if a Christian wants to put a christmas tree in their own business it's no ones business...
mickeyboosh87 1 month ago
AND, what about all the unfair tax advantages that churches get just for sayin that they are a religion, advantages that other charities do not automatically get. Preachers and the clergy get a tax - free housing allowance and are allowed to write off their mortgage interest at the same time. So, they do not pay the interest on their mortgage and are allowed to write it off at the same time. This is government endorsement of religion and a endorsement that is forced on the rest of us.
richwfd2002 1 month ago
This is ridiculous. As an atheist, I like christmas and trees and the season. We should be more concerned with the real problem, religion's influence in our government. John Shimkus (R-IL), in an official hearing to address concerns over rising sea levels because of global warming, quoted the book of genesis to refute the science of climate change. There are many other nutbags in our government. Also, I wonder if anyone ever informed Bill that gluttony is a "sin".
richwfd2002 1 month ago
"80% of the people in this country are christmas"
MaxShaps 1 month ago
why are these trees so ugly? they dont look like real trees at all :D (i might be wrong and its some sort of trees i dont know)
Kiesel 1 month ago
Bill donohue seems like the most narrow minded person ever, he refuses to even listen to what Dave is saying,
ovejocke 1 month ago
I'm an atheist. I agree with Bill.
Oh noooo, a Christmas tree. Wel Boohoo. A christmas tree isn't Christian symbol. It's a pagan symbol. Go home and cry people who are offended. It's JUST A FUCKING TREE
Tutterkop 1 month ago
@Tutterkop If they put a Muslim ornament or other religion other than Christian than people finally freak out and be outrage. You dont get the damn point.
DynamicMotionsHD 1 month ago
@DynamicMotionsHD First of the Christmas tree isn't a Christian symbol. In Europe nobody I know puts a Christmas tree in their house because it's the christian thing to do. That's just plain stupid. And secondly A religious ornament in private is okay, in public is not. If they put the scene of the naitivity in the streets instead of the trees, I would have a problem with it. But this is only a tree, and it being decorated does not mean it's suddenly a Christian tree
Tutterkop 1 month ago
Ugh he's like a little... baby... bill o'reilly
GraphiteWebKorea 1 month ago
that bitch is the one woman on the planet that i would have no problem beating to shit
childofreason 1 month ago
Bill Donahue... What a big fucking baby with his big fucking mouth. Is he 70 or 7 years old? Hitler an atheist? Like Silverman said; read Mein Kampf. Or any other book for that matter, you fucking illiterate imbecile.
jonlanghoff 1 month ago
@jonlanghoff He's read a book! The Good Book, and it's a good book, because The Good Book told us so! Ask Tim Minchin about the The Good Book, he'll tell you all you need to know about it
LostSubsForever 1 month ago
10:07 Bill says USA was founded by Christans. WHAT? I live in Europe and even I know that the founders were secular and Thomas Jefferson was anti-cleric. They partly founded their own country in order to escape from the bigottism of the English church. This man is retarded and just bullshitting around. I feel sorry for Dave for having to put up with such ignorant fools.
thevenomous1 1 month ago
We believe in humanity not nothing.
Zenhumanist 1 month ago
Holy shit, Bill is a detestable asshole.
Freaky123456789 1 month ago
This is bullshit. Would you fucking let Silverman talk you cunt?
killthephonies 1 month ago
The fat guy pretending to be funny didn't help his argument
andoverswimguy 1 month ago
Religion is a myth, and so is Jesus (no historical evidence). But so what? I don’t see why atheists can’t celebrate Christmas (Saturnalia – Winter Solstice, the birth of the sun).
/watch?v=JVAQGB15whI&feature=channel_video_title
I celebrate it, and don’t get offended when someone tells me Merry Xmas!
AgrippaTheMighty 1 month ago
@AgrippaTheMighty I'm afraid, religion isn't a myth. It does exist and unfortunately, not for the good of mankind. Wish it would be a myth, though.
mhoeltken 1 month ago
@mhoeltken Thanks for the correction, but what I should have said in my haste for expression was that the gods and goddesses in religion are all myths, and today yes I agree with you that religion isn’t good for mankind. However, in the distant past before the advent of science, it was a necessary thing. No human civilization has developed without it.
AgrippaTheMighty 1 month ago
@AgrippaTheMighty I think religin wasn't so much necessary, than inevitable. But not concerning the question what the world consists of and how it came to be, as any explanation would be as good as an other one if you left out science. No, religion would be about power, as it is perfect for one group to distinguish against an other group of people and justify wars or suppression about total unphilosophical topics as power, wealth, influence.
mhoeltken 1 month ago
@mhoeltken I disagree. In the distant past, humans in civilizations needed religion to function and bring some type of unifying sanity & order to their uneducated, short, brutish, disease & labor filled lives. And yes, it was inevitable. But today, the more advance societies are the least religious ones. Agreed that religion is all those things that you described.
AgrippaTheMighty 1 month ago
@AgrippaTheMighty I don't know... there are many species that have developed tremendous social structures both prior and parallel to human existence and development without religion at all. Since we both agree that religions have no essential truthful contents, we do not have to discuss some sort of extended creators will for animal societies to function. Perceiving the human as just an other mammal, early human life would be no argument for the necessity of religion.
mhoeltken 1 month ago
@AgrippaTheMighty I do, however, recognize, that there is some evolutionary advantage to a function of the human brain, that leads humans to religion or religious views. Take the child being told by its parents, that walking into a lions' nest would be hazardous to it's life, for instance. It is crucial for the species to survive, that a child does not have to make every experience by its own. But usually, parents use that omniscient label in puberty.
mhoeltken 1 month ago
@AgrippaTheMighty Then, I observe religion indeed more as a separating force, than a uniting one. There is nothing in religious views, that helps to distinguish humans from animals. Differences in religious views use to end in separation between human groups and societies. That's what holy wars are about. It may lead to a point, where a non-believer is spoken not to be human and legal to be killed, as it often does. A uniting force in religion, I do not see.
mhoeltken 1 month ago
@mhoeltken “A uniting force in religion, I do not see.” Religion is basically a human fabricated belief using the imagination about the afterlife, which is later inculcated as real. Today, if we educate ourselves, we can see fact from fiction, and the religious view is a very poor substitute for reality as you have correctly pointed out. But in the distant past, societies like the Ancient Egyptians imperfectly united their people with their centralized belief
AgrippaTheMighty 1 month ago
@mhoeltken system (granted much of it because of their geographical “island”) for 3000 years of almost uninterrupted peace. Later, Christian societies in Europe only manage to effectively unite local areas in the building of cathedrals and small countries. They were not nearly as successful as the ancient Egyptians because of the very damaging character of this Abrahamic religion going very much against human nature. But I agree. Today religion is B.S.
AgrippaTheMighty 1 month ago
@AgrippaTheMighty What exactly do you mean with 3000 years of almost uninterrupted peace? And would that be peace in opposition to (a formal declarated) war, or peace in opposition to torture, suppression or murder?
mhoeltken 1 month ago
@mhoeltken There is only evidence for some wars here and there but that’s it. The only mass murder that I have found was from a pharaoh from the first dynasty that apparently had hundreds killed upon the event of the king’s death, but beside that I can’t find evidence for widespread torture, suppression or murder. There is evidence for equal rights among the commoners that we now start to have in western society for both men & women.
AgrippaTheMighty 1 month ago
@AgrippaTheMighty You mean besides the Crusades, the Sonderbund war, the Second Sar of Kappel, the Thirty Years' War, the French Wars Of Religion (with St. Bartholomew's Day massacre), the Eighty Years' War, the German Campaign and the second world war with it's holocaust? Just to name the prominent religious wars...
mhoeltken 1 month ago
@mhoeltken If you read my 2 last posts you’ll see that I was referring to the ancient Egyptian civilization not the Christian medieval mess.
AgrippaTheMighty 1 month ago
@AgrippaTheMighty Uh, I must apologise. I definitely have not enough background on ancient Egyptian societies to discuss religious influences. Mea culpa.
mhoeltken 1 month ago
@mhoeltken No problem. But I must add to your list of Christian religious mess the Black Death killing one third of Europe (many millions). I gotta confirm the approximate number of cats exterminated, but when the first outbreaks showed up, shortly after, the pope declared the domestic felines from the Devil with an order of extermination, which as we know destroyed the animals that could have prevented the infection from proliferating since this illness largely spread through rats.
AgrippaTheMighty 1 month ago
@AgrippaTheMighty I guess we can spend years just adding to that list. Or that of nearly every other religion for that matter. And they (the religions and their leaders) are still adding to that list themselves with new crimes and ongiong cruelty. Bits and pieces of good in the name of religion does not compensate for the illness and sinister outviews spoken from sacred thrones. Thus the importance of openminded thinking people willing to lead the struggle for a lifeworthy society.
mhoeltken 1 month ago
@mhoeltken “Bits and pieces of good in the name of religion does not compensate for the illness and sinister outviews spoken from sacred thrones.” I will agree if we understand it within our present context. But as an atheist, I still don’t see anything wrong with Christmas celebration.
AgrippaTheMighty 1 month ago
@AgrippaTheMighty Oh, that was meant in context of our discussion. As to the original Video, I do not reject tradition or celebrated family values, even if religion is demanding all that pagan traditions by itself. However, as I am german (witch explains my bad English) and we do not have the same problem with fundamental religious views as the Americans seem to have, I can only imagine the importance of someone speaking a little sense on national TV, for the bits of FOX reaching Europe
mhoeltken 1 month ago
@AgrippaTheMighty may be disturbed, but alarming. Europe tends to adopt a lot of american ideas, even when there was a significant anti-american zeitgeist. Kinda frightens me.
mhoeltken 1 month ago
@mhoeltken Point taken and understood about our conversation. Speaking from America, I wanna say that I’m an America citizen but I have dual citizenship with Europe. I’m originally from Spain though I grew up in both France and Spain. So, hello fellow European! With respect to Fox News, yeah generally speaking they’re the voice of Christian fundamentalist opinions. But in this one, Donohue does have a general point when it says that everyone celebrates Christmas in the US.
AgrippaTheMighty 1 month ago
@mhoeltken I'm pretty sure he/she meant the stuff that they follow and believe
ThePro777Gamer555 1 month ago
"Everybody is welcome but if you dont feel welcomed, convert and then you will" -_-* flawless logic, not surprised though
Dozzer 1 month ago
Wonder how bill would feel if he had to work in a place that put up a pasta tree for pastamas. Or had buddha statues decorating the office. And if he were to get offended or upset, wonder how he would feel when they called him "mentally ill" told to "get over it or convert"? Can't look at it from the other side of the coin.
Dozzer 1 month ago
i love how she diminishes canada and sfu by saying "this" sfu, as thought it isn't a real place where educated people get together to learn. Like her opinion means so much. Isn't she supposed to be a moderator. This is simply her intercepting david before his point is made and Donny boy venting is bigoted frustrations out on TV.
sk8rdaniel 1 month ago
It's funny how the "God believer" which is supposed to be the better person, is the bigger douchebag. Yet the "atheist" is the compassionate one.
arjegt1039 1 month ago
@arjegt1039 That's because the average atheist is more logical
ThePro777Gamer555 1 month ago
Lol wow, I would have slaped the shit out of her after she said "But they've got the tree, then they've got the menorah, and then they have nothing! So you are represented there".....wow
Babylauncher3000 1 month ago
You know your argument is weak when your closing comments are too shout HITLER EQUALS ATHEIST over the 'moderator'.
Well Bill, I see you have been throwing shit again and seeing what sticks. How's that working out?
madman778 1 month ago
convert? fuck that!
avaizhashmi 1 month ago
this is stupid!!! i like silverman, but this is really worthless discussion.
avaizhashmi 1 month ago
What erichs6193 said!
And in addition
>Hitler
>Atheist
Fuck yeah Humburgers learning history!
Kessador 1 month ago
I love how Bill tried to end on Hitler being an atheist like Silverman was going to let him get away with that spurious claim.
reishvedaur 1 month ago
As a Atheist i have to side with Bill the dingdong, as much as i hate doing so. But anyone offended or feeling rejected from a damn pine tree with tinsel on it is a moron. I decorate a tree every year with all that Pagan crap and i dont care what religion or part of the world its from. Just a day to see family, eat and watch football. Plus its a paid holiday so leave it the hell alone lol.
JabberCT 1 month ago 8
1:14-2:02 LMAO
SDTPW 1 month ago
All the questions asked to Bill, none to David. Bill talks the whole time, David gets two words in.
classic Fox "News".
Hollywood3107 1 month ago
I'm an atheist, but why do we have to hate Christmas trees? I don't buy that. The trees are pretty, the holiday is festive and you can take the secular festive part of Christmas completely separately from the boring religious part anyway. Like I said, I'm an atheist, but who wants the world to be so boring as to not have Christmas?
pnq8787 1 month ago
@pnq8787 I generally agree with you. As an atheist, I used to be leery about seeing Christmas trees, and Christmas decorations, and listening to blowhards rant about a "war on Christmas." But I've been an atheist long enough now that I don't care. I don't believe, so why should I give a hoot about some magic greenery? I understand Dave's point about religion not belonging in the workplace, but I think his point would be more salient if he were talking about tax-funded public space.
JacobinOfHearts 1 month ago
This Bill guy is a douche bag
givingmantoo 1 month ago 23
@givingmantoo well said dude
SlaytanicKreation 1 month ago
@SlaytanicKreation Thank you, it just came naturally when listening to the guy talk shit
givingmantoo 1 month ago
@givingmantoo i know hat you mean dude lol
SlaytanicKreation 1 month ago
@givingmantoo Big, fat douchebag... Bill, that is.
richwfd2002 1 month ago
"then convert" and that is it, they want to covert everyone else to their religion and sooner or later, if they have their way then they will kill you if you don't convert.
givingmantoo 1 month ago
"get over it" how very typical of a theist, they want their way no matter what and FUCK everyone else.
givingmantoo 1 month ago
@givingmantoo It's a bigot's mantra, really.
andid 1 month ago
I'm not Christian and I enjoy celebrating the non-religious parts of Christmas. So much of Christmas is separate from Christianity (it wasn't even originally a Christian holiday) that I have few issues celebrating it.
As for the tree issue, I would object to a nativity, but a Christmas tree? Nah. It's a freaking tree. No one is trying to convert you to Jesus. Get over it. There are more important issues to worry about.
magenta1000 1 month ago 2
Oh Christians you're so stupid
PrinceSamanti 1 month ago
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90JFB 1 month ago
The Catholic League sounds like a group of superhero paedophiles.
90JFB 1 month ago 40
this bill guy is a complete asshat
TheSarnaran 1 month ago
David Silverman is a new hero to me. lol
Mimi2591 1 month ago
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What I hate about atheists is that they say that there is no God and that that is a fact. You guys can not prove that there is no God, and I don't want people saying that I can't prove that there is a God because I never said that I could. I won't whine about you guys, so leave others alone
soccerlvr402 1 month ago
@Tristansletter
Interesting given that Christianity didn't become a faith until 33AD.
Reazzurro90 1 month ago
I guess people just like to get their faces on TV. Build a bridge and get over it guys.
Stitchman3875 1 month ago
David Silverman, I'm so disappointed. Holidays are nice man, don't ruin it, focus on important things instead. Juletide is older than Jesus.
omnisomnia 1 month ago
@omnisomnia How in the fuck is he ruining holidays? He is simply stating in a WORKPLACE where people from other RELIGIONS work shouldn't feel excluded, he isn't saying don't put up a tree at your house or a public property. It's just mind boggling how some people misinterpret such simple statements.
JagroopSarai10 1 month ago
@JagroopSarai10 Anybody with half a brain would have sensed the lightheartedness of my post. I'm not Christian btw.
omnisomnia 1 month ago
just convert to catholism and start ass rapin four year old boys. bills a fucking pedophile dumb fuck i hope he gets hit by a fucking bus
lnkintx80 1 month ago
the fact that this ignorant bully Donahue can't wrap his pea around the fact that it's exclusive is the problem.
How do you argue with sheep who say..."hey, I like it, my next door neighbor does too---get with my program or leave." ?
this country is such a puritanical joke.
rmutt4 1 month ago
I don't agree with Mr. Silverman on this one, but Bill Donahue sounds like a real ignorant bigot.
18booma 1 month ago
that bitch wont fucking shut up!
Xsaster 1 month ago
Atheism is a fast growing religion or religious segment? lol, Does that mean that they non-worship together as a community of non-believers?
This debate is so stupid, I don't see the reason for feeling excluded if your work colleges enjoy the holiday and you don't...You can't just say we as work colleges have to have the same ideas, beliefs and do the exact same things or i'll feel excluded...how insecure and childish.
It's a christmas tree, it's for the holiday
MugenMacca 1 month ago
I think that David Silverman shouldn't go to these debates or interviews because he's gonna be owned by them.
CRBASF2 1 month ago
@AdamRS614 im atheist as well but you can't say there are no religious people that have intelligence.
Yressa 1 month ago
mgyn kelly actually did a good job on this interview. surprising.
Yressa 1 month ago
Pope vs Silverman. do it. GO.
madd0gsquid 1 month ago
@Tristansletter i think you need to refraze that sentence...
92marxist 1 month ago
"Im going to start with bill, because I have a feeling hes a Christian JUST LIKE ME"
TheAndrewstevens 1 month ago
lol Bill is just a discriminative jackass.
xxzippyxx 1 month ago
Hey cute anchor lady...Y U NO BUY SCIENCE BOOK
certifideballer 1 month ago
I am an atheist. But I am not on board with David's positions. While I agree that work and religion should be separated, I don't think not celebrating a festival is the solution. Every religious festival has a cultural perspective. I have a Indian hindu upbringing. And to me Christmas is a time when family comes together to celebrate happiness, and of course it is a time of spending from an economic perspective. Nothing less and nothing more. I don't feel excluded at all.
TejasM14 1 month ago
@TejasM14 Then celebrate at home or in a church where religion belongs. I'm in 100% agreement with David Silverman because work is about work. It always bothers me that my work shuts down for 2 weeks because supposedly everyone celebrates Christmas and during that time I'm NOT ALLOWED to work. Honestly, the founding fathers probably got more work done than any other Congress because they worked through Christmas just like other foreign countries.
jshowa7 1 month ago
@TejasM14 I don't mind a few work parties now and then, but the fact that I have to sit on my ass for 2 weeks and am forced not to work, and the fact that my entire department wastes time decorating doors in wrapping paper and throwing potlucks every other day, is absurd.
jshowa7 1 month ago
@jshowa7 I am sorry to hear that, sounds like your department isn't the most efficient one lol. But anyway getting back to the point, to me at least Christianity is a secular holiday. Heck it is so commercialized, it's all a marketing gimmick of you ask me. But I don't mind setting aside a few days to spend with family and friends as I think the rest of the year too hectic for that to actually happen. As long as you don't shove the religion in my face, I am ok with any festival.
TejasM14 1 month ago
@TejasM14 It's a lab wide 2 week shutdown, it has nothing to do with departments. And Christmas is an excuse to do nothing for the last two weeks of December (and sometimes into the beginning of January), which is a waste of time. They should outlaw it, just like it was during the U.S. Revolutionary War period.
jshowa7 1 month ago
@jshowa7 I guess we must agree to disagree. Many Americans, including the folks I know toil for most of the year. More holidays to me doesn't seem bad. As such the United states lags in comparison to Europe, (which is just as or more efficient than the US) in terms of the number of holidays. As I said, I see it as a great time to spend with family and friends and am not bothered by the religious connotations of it.
TejasM14 1 month ago
@TejasM14 Well, there is a time/work trade off. I'd be more for having less work hours, but work everyday. I don't need colossal voids of time where I have to spend all this time, doing nothing (i.e. Christmas, New Years, Thanksgiving). Plus, if kids in schools actually went to school all year round, we wouldn't be having our ass handed to us by other countries.
jshowa7 1 month ago
@TejasM14 Plus, the more time I spend away from work, the less I want to go back. Because I get so use to doing nothing and being lazy, it becomes my natural state. Plus, the company I work for offers vacation time, so why am I forced to not work for 2 weeks out of the year? I know that's specific to my own company, but I'm sure there are other companies with similar retardedness.
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@jshowa7 @jshowa7 Also, I am curious. And I'm playing devil's advocate here. Based on your opinion of holidays as being a waste of time, couldn't that assumption be extended to every weekend? What is the point of any holiday for that matter of fact?
TejasM14 1 month ago
ok, I'm an atheist, but its not like Christmas is REALLY a christian holiday... It *technically* is, but It's been secularized over the years. I mean, come on, what does a Christmas tree, presents, and a fat guy in a red suit have to do with Jesus? I would have a problem with a nativity scene, but a Christmas tree and some reindeer? That's not a religions celebration.
red666111 1 month ago
@red666111 Agreed. If someone hangs up lights and snowmen and shit in front of their house, no problem. I facepalm the second I see a damn nativity, though.
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@red666111 agreed. I mentioned in a comment that I am an atheist of a hindu upbringing. I am not in the least excluded. To me it is the same as thanks giving. A time of bringing family together and celebrating happiness.
TejasM14 1 month ago
Have Christians just begun making shit up about everything? Like at first it was making up unfalsifiable characteristics about god to suit their arguments, and now its just brought up in regular conversation all of the time. "Oh I don't like atheism, well Hitler was an atheist." I'm not even going to disprove this its been done so many times, but you have to wonder. When will Christians will stop making shit up?
WithSomeSpareTime 2 months ago
Luckily I'm living in a country where religious people are a minority. We're laughing their irrational nonsense everywhere they dare to show it public.
SmartK8 2 months ago
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I think we have found the source.
joegt123 2 months ago
Hahaha the fat biggot is sooooo funny!
"80% of all americans are christmas"
"If you're offended by a christmas tree... CONVERT!!"
Is middle name is assinine?
daddyleon 2 months ago
Hitler was an atheist? Say whaaat?
grenzor1 2 months ago
It's encouraging to see special needs children getting to talk with intelligent people such as Silverman.
snowman4839 2 months ago
Christmas IS celebrated by Christians in Malaysia, which is a primarily Muslim country. Ignorant hick.
bigglyguy 2 months ago
Religion has to go.
235RB 2 months ago
said before, not sure how much i like Silverman as a representative of atheism, but he's excellent on Fox. sticks to the point, won't be brought away from the workplace, where it is actually a problem.
callumnik117 2 months ago
Could have swore i saw David Silverman vs Bill Douchebag as the title...
ryan6627 2 months ago
I agree with neutrality of government towards religion but I don't think its correct to say that businesses are less productive because of religious displays and thereby need to ban any religious celebration. I think its a bogus argument. The ideal way would be to allow people to celebrate their personal religions including Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus etc. in workplaces, if they want to.
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I'm impressed with Bill's uncharacteristic composure and articulation here. Normally you wouldn't be able to understand him past his frothing and spewing of stupidity and ignorance. Way to dial it back.
dahuterschuter 2 months ago
"Christian Tip #458: When losing a logical debate with an atheist, bring up Hitler!"
Maybe he should put down the Bible for a bit and read an actual history book...
Hirosakis 2 months ago
Hitler equals Atheist? He must be so full of himself to say it in such a shameless way. Hitler was a Catholic.
firealef0411 2 months ago
why does she say "canada" like that, what a cunt
sahis34 2 months ago
@sahis34 I know, eh?
AfternoonChowder 2 months ago
it's a fucking tree...
eROCtele 2 months ago
The twat conducting this interview is a disgrace to her profession
adamsbeer 2 months ago
Why can't Christmas be secular at work and religious (or non-religious) at home?
Meggings 2 months ago
@Meggings I can't believe some misinterpreted people do not get this simple suggestion from Silverman, I'm just baffled by these two ignorant and rude people.
JagroopSarai10 1 month ago
"Fox News", "Fixed News", "Fox Noise", how can anyone watch this rightwing, bullshit, channel?
finnisawesome 2 months ago
80% of Americans are Christians, 2% Jews and 0.6% Muslims.
No reason for not celebrating Christmas
MattiasAyd 2 months ago
FUCK DAVID SILVERMAN... I HOPE THAT SON OF A BITCH DIES AND GOES TO HELL
MattiasAyd 2 months ago
@MattiasAyd
wow. You really are a kind-hearted Christian who deserves to go to heaven, aren't you?
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