Someone who said that Joy Division is over rated and that they only made noise ignores the huge influence of Joy Division on later bands and the millions of records that Joy Division sold. It's sad that singer Ian Curtis suicided himself cause the future looked very bright for Joy Division at the time just before his suicide.Rest in peace Ian.
Joy Division, Really. I have never heard of Andy mentioning Joy Division as an influence. Joy Division is one of the most over rated bands ever. New Order was a band Joy Division was just noise. OMD had a great sound and lyrics Joy Division was just monotone noise, I dont see the influence.
I think the influence that Joy Division yielded stemmed from their growing interest in electronics. Both Bernard Summner and Stephen Morris had been playing about with keyboards - the result of which is not as obvious in JD's first album, but is clearly there in Closer. To me New Order became the band that Joy Division would have likely become.
Does anyone else think that The Human League (mk1) and OMD were kind-of like the opposite in terms of musical direction and what people thought of them?
THL desperately wanted to be a pop band, but were often written off as experimental science geeks
whereas
OMD aimed to be experimental but were seen as pop.
Does anyone agree?
(Either way, they both were successful in the end.)
Rediscovering this band now after a brief hibernation of about a decade or so. Great to see that the original line-up is putting forth an upcoming album in 2010! Can't wait. Dazzleships still stuns me from this day on how timeless and beyond the norm their sound was.
They did some really great stuff in the first few years and were influenced by Joy Division. As was the case for themselves and most of their peers, it turned to rat shit around the mid eighties.
Influenced by Joy Division?!? Both of the bands came out around the same time. The band actually mentions Kraftwerk as their main influence. They bare no resemblance to Joy Division...how'd you come up with that one?
Andy Mcluskey had stated in the past that Joy Division and Ian Curtis made a big impression on OMD after they supported them in the late 70's . Joy Division used synths and electronic percussion effects in their work. This was influential on OMD's second album "Organisation", giving it a more darker and atmospheric feel to it when compared to the first. The track "Statues", was partly written in tribute to Ian Curtis after his suicide in 1980.
I think that "Krautrock", a somewhat derogatory reference, is apparent in both OMD and JOY DIVISION is in the equation throughout the early years of their careers.
Wow! Thanks for the info...wasn't trying to sound ignorant at all. Never realized how much of a influence Joy Division was on OMD. Never would have guessed.
I was a Yank(in Oklahoma, no less) listening to this stuff in the early-mid 80s. I was not a popular guy in school-got beaten up a number of times. lol
OMG, totally brill! Its a real pleasure just to see you guys talking about the time you started out - we have been with you every step of the way. THANK YOU!!
My parents raised me on OMD, Kraftwerk, and Gary Numan. I'm glad they were my parents.
oldsoulyoungbody 1 month ago
@oldsoulyoungbody you were raised well young oldsoulyoungbody
themachman19691 1 month ago
Someone who said that Joy Division is over rated and that they only made noise ignores the huge influence of Joy Division on later bands and the millions of records that Joy Division sold. It's sad that singer Ian Curtis suicided himself cause the future looked very bright for Joy Division at the time just before his suicide.Rest in peace Ian.
turquoisecapricorn 5 months ago
2:26 did the camera guy just have a seizure or what?
s0nnyburnett 7 months ago
0:45 THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST
Intrafacial86 1 year ago
Joy Division, Really. I have never heard of Andy mentioning Joy Division as an influence. Joy Division is one of the most over rated bands ever. New Order was a band Joy Division was just noise. OMD had a great sound and lyrics Joy Division was just monotone noise, I dont see the influence.
whiteboard66 1 minute ago
whiteboard66 1 year ago
I think the influence that Joy Division yielded stemmed from their growing interest in electronics. Both Bernard Summner and Stephen Morris had been playing about with keyboards - the result of which is not as obvious in JD's first album, but is clearly there in Closer. To me New Order became the band that Joy Division would have likely become.
piedrada 1 year ago
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whiteboard66 1 year ago
Does anyone else think that The Human League (mk1) and OMD were kind-of like the opposite in terms of musical direction and what people thought of them?
THL desperately wanted to be a pop band, but were often written off as experimental science geeks
whereas
OMD aimed to be experimental but were seen as pop.
Does anyone agree?
(Either way, they both were successful in the end.)
shinysynthcity 1 year ago 9
Rediscovering this band now after a brief hibernation of about a decade or so. Great to see that the original line-up is putting forth an upcoming album in 2010! Can't wait. Dazzleships still stuns me from this day on how timeless and beyond the norm their sound was.
MFizz01 2 years ago
They did some really great stuff in the first few years and were influenced by Joy Division. As was the case for themselves and most of their peers, it turned to rat shit around the mid eighties.
TheHarecat 2 years ago 2
Influenced by Joy Division?!? Both of the bands came out around the same time. The band actually mentions Kraftwerk as their main influence. They bare no resemblance to Joy Division...how'd you come up with that one?
MFizz01 2 years ago
Andy Mcluskey had stated in the past that Joy Division and Ian Curtis made a big impression on OMD after they supported them in the late 70's . Joy Division used synths and electronic percussion effects in their work. This was influential on OMD's second album "Organisation", giving it a more darker and atmospheric feel to it when compared to the first. The track "Statues", was partly written in tribute to Ian Curtis after his suicide in 1980.
TheHarecat 2 years ago
I think that "Krautrock", a somewhat derogatory reference, is apparent in both OMD and JOY DIVISION is in the equation throughout the early years of their careers.
TheHarecat 2 years ago
Wow! Thanks for the info...wasn't trying to sound ignorant at all. Never realized how much of a influence Joy Division was on OMD. Never would have guessed.
MFizz01 2 years ago
I was a Yank(in Oklahoma, no less) listening to this stuff in the early-mid 80s. I was not a popular guy in school-got beaten up a number of times. lol
stephenp1968 2 years ago
Wonderful! The electro movement of the late 70's and Early 80's was brilliant! Thanx Brits!
blnkrboy 2 years ago 2
I remember the first time I heard OMD and was thrilled-it is a unique sound and still does.
goodyearnow 2 years ago
OMG, totally brill! Its a real pleasure just to see you guys talking about the time you started out - we have been with you every step of the way. THANK YOU!!
BoobyBits 2 years ago
THanks a million for posting this.
saulhughes 2 years ago 5
@saulhughes youre very welcome
themachman19691 1 year ago